It's hard to imagine graphics getting much better than this.....

Oh, look. Uncharted. What a surprise. :roll:

There are better looking games. Also, bullshots.

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Oh, look. Uncharted. What a surprise. :roll:

There are better looking games. Also, bullshots.

DarkLink77

In seriousness, I think the boat level is a bullshot, but remember in UC2, without doing anything for a while, your HUD dissapears. So who knows "Shrugs".

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Oh, look. Uncharted. What a surprise. :roll:

There are better looking games. Also, bullshots.

DarkLink77

Its a really nice looking game, the best on a console but you could tell that the gameplay was not up to the cutscenes in visuals and the screens in the opening look like cutscenes.

It doesn't even look better than the PC version of BF3.

Oh, look. Uncharted. What a surprise. :roll:

There are better looking games. Also, bullshots.

I can imagine way better graphics then that.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

You can't be serious, right? :lol:

ActicEdge said, a PC game from '07 (Crysis 1) easily trumps every PS3 exclusive in graphics. Graphics will never stop getting better. Heck, PC is about a generation ahead of both 360/PS3 in graphics (& maybe the Wii U, too).

ActicEdge

I do think that we are going to reach a diminishing returns point for graphics on consoles though tbh and I think we are starting to near that. Because PCs are upgradable and with mods and constantly evolving parts and the nature of PC games being able to scale graphics so well, it won't be hurt by this too much but on consoles I think it will beging to become tooo expensive for most games to do this. I was looking at some tech demos posted on neogaf after the Wii U demo was posted and yeah graphics still have a long way to go but I think it'll be way too much money to get to that level anytime soon.

:lol: wow guy lol. Try looking for a better and bigger imagination.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

You can't be serious, right? :lol:

ActicEdge said, a PC game from '07 (Crysis 1) easily trumps every PS3 exclusive in graphics. Graphics will never stop getting better. Heck, PC is about a generation ahead of both 360/PS3 in graphics (& maybe the Wii U, too).

savagetwinkie

I do think that we are going to reach a diminishing returns point for graphics on consoles though tbh and I think we are starting to near that. Because PCs are upgradable and with mods and constantly evolving parts and the nature of PC games being able to scale graphics so well, it won't be hurt by this too much but on consoles I think it will beging to become tooo expensive for most games to do this. I was looking at some tech demos posted on neogaf after the Wii U demo was posted and yeah graphics still have a long way to go but I think it'll be way too much money to get to that level anytime soon.

That's pretty much what I said or atleast meant.

I am fine with where the Wii U's power seems to be at, I am more interested in the games though tbh.

The characters look like they're made of clay and their clothes look like they're made of wax.

If you can't imagine graphics looking better than that you have a poor imagination.

It sure looks good but pc games are way better

Thats what I thought about Banjo Kazooie the first time I played it.

Thats what I thought about Banjo Kazooie the first time I played it.

DillonShwing

You haven't seen Crysis, Bf3, etc. right?

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] im suprised that you arent considering the fact that pc gaming is still stick with dx9.ZoomZoom2490

just because pc's look more powerfull on paper it doesnt mean much if you dont even have a single dev making exclusive games for pc.

like i said before, what ps3 is doing with that crappy gpu is amazing.

too bad pc's dont have 5% of effort put in that area.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I do think that we are going to reach a diminishing returns point for graphics on consoles though tbh and I think we are starting to near that. Because PCs are upgradable and with mods and constantly evolving parts and the nature of PC games being able to scale graphics so well, it won't be hurt by this too much but on consoles I think it will beging to become tooo expensive for most games to do this. I was looking at some tech demos posted on neogaf after the Wii U demo was posted and yeah graphics still have a long way to go but I think it'll be way too much money to get to that level anytime soon.

ActicEdge

That's pretty much what I said or atleast meant.

I am fine with where the Wii U's power seems to be at, I am more interested in the games though tbh.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

You have to prove it. Which you can't.

The ship is actually titlting back and forth as if it were at sea. All the objects(chandaliers, boxes, tables, ect.) are reacting to the tilting of the ship. Drake's weight placement and movement is not scripted, he is actually reacting to the weight distribution of the ship.

ChubbyGuy40

You can't prove it isn't scripted. Most of those objects are static. They are set to move according to which way the boat is tilting. Its not dynamic. Its scripted.

I am about 3 pages late, but here is an article from Joystq:

"As you probably noticed from the press conference demo, the waves play as much of an adversarial role as the ship's gun-toting crew. The ship's movement (and Drake's reactionary movement against the swaying ocean) isn't a canned animation. It's an actual stable platform held aloft by a randomly generated series of waves, each of which moves objects in the environment (including Drake himself) with a unique trajectory. From a programming standpoint, it's dizzying. From a player's standpoint, it's literally dizzying."

Don't act like you are not impressed.

Ok. I love Uncharted but those are clearly bull shots.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

You have to prove it. Which you can't.

The ship is actually titlting back and forth as if it were at sea. All the objects(chandaliers, boxes, tables, ect.) are reacting to the tilting of the ship. Drake's weight placement and movement is not scripted, he is actually reacting to the weight distribution of the ship.

15strong

You can't prove it isn't scripted. Most of those objects are static. They are set to move according to which way the boat is tilting. Its not dynamic. Its scripted.

I am about 3 pages late, but here is an article from Joystq:

"As you probably noticed from the press conference demo, the waves play as much of an adversarial role as the ship's gun-toting crew. The ship's movement (and Drake's reactionary movement against the swaying ocean) isn't a canned animation. It's an actual stable platform held aloft by a randomly generated series of waves, each of which moves objects in the environment (including Drake himself) with a unique trajectory. From a programming standpoint, it's dizzying. From a player's standpoint, it's literally dizzying."

Don't act like you are not impressed.

You clearly don´t have a very strong imagination then, ;)

They can and will get alot better than that. But for consoles, UC3 looks just straight jaw dropping and amazing.

Um... There are better looking games from this generation...

[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

You can't prove it isn't scripted. Most of those objects are static. They are set to move according to which way the boat is tilting. Its not dynamic. Its scripted.

Cj19_32

I am about 3 pages late, but here is an article from Joystq:

"As you probably noticed from the press conference demo, the waves play as much of an adversarial role as the ship's gun-toting crew. The ship's movement (and Drake's reactionary movement against the swaying ocean) isn't a canned animation. It's an actual stable platform held aloft by a randomly generated series of waves, each of which moves objects in the environment (including Drake himself) with a unique trajectory. From a programming standpoint, it's dizzying. From a player's standpoint, it's literally dizzying."

Don't act like you are not impressed.

Not sure what you are saying? But it says background objects. Even the water in the half filled pool has to move dynamically becuase the waves are randomly generated.

pow right in the kisser

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

You have to prove it. Which you can't.

The ship is actually titlting back and forth as if it were at sea. All the objects(chandaliers, boxes, tables, ect.) are reacting to the tilting of the ship. Drake's weight placement and movement is not scripted, he is actually reacting to the weight distribution of the ship.

15strong

You can't prove it isn't scripted. Most of those objects are static. They are set to move according to which way the boat is tilting. Its not dynamic. Its scripted.

I am about 3 pages late, but here is an article from Joystq:

"As you probably noticed from the press conference demo, the waves play as much of an adversarial role as the ship's gun-toting crew. The ship's movement (and Drake's reactionary movement against the swaying ocean) isn't a canned animation. It's an actual stable platform held aloft by a randomly generated series of waves, each of which moves objects in the environment (including Drake himself) with a unique trajectory. From a programming standpoint, it's dizzying. From a player's standpoint, it's literally dizzying."

Don't act like you are not impressed.

For consoles, I'd completely agree, I can't see graphics getting any better on the consoles, this is of course already top-notch for PS3. PC obviously beats it though, it's not even a competition.

Just becuase of dev costs, i think we may not see much improvement, they can't afford to double dev costs, like they have each gen

[QUOTE="Cj19_32"][QUOTE="15strong"]

I am about 3 pages late, but here is an article from Joystq:

"As you probably noticed from the press conference demo, the waves play as much of an adversarial role as the ship's gun-toting crew. The ship's movement (and Drake's reactionary movement against the swaying ocean) isn't a canned animation. It's an actual stable platform held aloft by a randomly generated series of waves, each of which moves objects in the environment (including Drake himself) with a unique trajectory. From a programming standpoint, it's dizzying. From a player's standpoint, it's literally dizzying."

Don't act like you are not impressed.

15strong

Not sure what you are saying? But it says background objects. Even the water in the half filled pool has to move dynamically becuase the waves are randomly generated.

For consoles, I'd completely agree, I can't see graphics getting any better on the consoles, this is of course already top-notch for PS3. PC obviously beats it though, it's not even a competition.

XVision84

Back when I played FF7, I thought graphics would never get better. So no, TC, I have to disagree.

I don't want games to go beyond real-time ray tracing. It's just creepy after that.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

For consoles, I'd completely agree, I can't see graphics getting any better on the consoles, this is of course already top-notch for PS3. PC obviously beats it though, it's not even a competition.

navyguy21

Realistic doesn't always mean better though, I don't think realism would really suit Uncharted, but I can see how art style would help a lot. It helped a ton with SMG 2 which looks fantastic running on Wii hardware thanks to it's art style.

I don't want games to go beyond real-time ray tracing. It's just creepy after that.

Cheesehead9099

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

For consoles, I'd completely agree, I can't see graphics getting any better on the consoles, this is of course already top-notch for PS3. PC obviously beats it though, it's not even a competition.

XVision84

Realistic doesn't always mean better though, I don't think realism would really suit Uncharted, but I can see how art style would help a lot. It helped a ton with SMG 2 which looks fantastic running on Wii hardware thanks to it's art style.

I always get annoyed when people say stuff like this and people have been saying stuff like this FOR YEARS!!! I still remember people looking at Mortal Kombat 1 and saying "yep, this is it!".

Take a look around you. Go outside and look around. As soon as games consistently look as real as what you are seeing then this will be a conversation worth having.

I always get annoyed when people say stuff like this and people have been saying stuff like this FOR YEARS!!! I still remember people looking at Mortal Kombat 1 and saying "yep, this is it!".

Take a look around you. Go outside and look around. As soon as games consistently look as real as what you are seeing then this will be a conversation worth having.

Wiimotefan

if you dismiss resolution, UC3 is the most advanced looking game on the market right now.

if you dismiss resolution, UC3 is the most advanced looking game on the market right now.

ZoomZoom2490

if you dismiss resolution, UC3 is the most advanced looking game on the market right now.

ZoomZoom2490

...I already get way better than that... :lol:

*looks at the Witcher 2 Ultra*

Don't need to imagine when there is proof for all to see.

yeah, the ship demo......that's the most impressive piece of video game technology I've ever seen. and I've seen alot. they way everything reacts and flat out how good it looks.....very impressive.