It's Official, PS3 now in 2nd place

[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]since cows love to use unofficial sources as fact..lets use LOLchartz aka VGChartz which according to cows logic is official even if they are only predictions or estimates :cool: Xbox 360 (X360) Global Sales : 74.25 PlayStation 3 (PS3) Global Sales 72.41 :cool: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Tessellation

The despiration has won lol

Denial that the PS3 is passing their 360 this year in sales. It's amazing it's taken so long. Just goes to show that more Americans only are buying the 360 which has held off the PS3 outselling the 360 till 2013. The PS3 has actually been outselling the 360 for 3 years now, but not by enough to outsell it overall till 2013. Good thing MS had all those extra sales from people replacing their RRoD'd 360s or else they would've been in 3rd the beginning of 2012 or sooner.

"Shipped" doesn't translate to "sold". Although I'm sure PS3 will still pass the 360 soon enough.Trinexxx

the console manufacturers don't ship their product for free. the retailers order them. that's a sale.

[QUOTE="Trinexxx"]"Shipped" doesn't translate to "sold". Although I'm sure PS3 will still pass the 360 soon enough.CaseyWegner

the console manufacturers don't ship their product for free. the retailers order them. that's a sale.

[QUOTE="ToScA-"] I did always somewhat suspect you were just yet another deluded cow; I wasn't sure since you sometimes make good points. However, this post does indeed confirm that you are yet another deluded cow. The last sentence says it all; baselessly pulling numbers out of your arse to suit your argument...I guess that's the cow way. Dang, there were actually some decent cows around before this HD generation kickstarted. Skektek was one of the few knowing what he was talking about, but he's hardly around.tormentos

The joke is on you my friend. You keep recycling your bullysh!t, with absolutely no links to back your statements up.

I provided SEVERAL links and did the math in a post that was well-constructed enough so that even a dimwit such as yourself would be able to comprehend that Microsoft have so far during this generation turned a $300 million profit from their Xbox division. You've shown absolutely nothing in terms of even a SINGLE link that disproves that; only the asinine ramblings of a cow, namely you. I know they made massive losses last generation, but I have stressed numerous times that I am talking about this generation and contrasting their performance this generation with Sony's performance.

Microsoft's losses are nowhere NEAR $7.1 billion even if the losses from the original Xbox are factored in. Again, the cow mantra of:

Ass -> Numbers.

I've had enough of your nonsense and I have things that actually make sense to attend to. So I bid you farewell. Thank you and have a nice day.

since cows love to use unofficial sources as fact..lets use LOLchartz aka VGChartz which according to cows logic is official even if they are only predictions or estimates :cool: Xbox 360 (X360) Global Sales : 74.25 PlayStation 3 (PS3) Global Sales 72.41 :cool: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Tessellation

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Trinexxx"]"Shipped" doesn't translate to "sold". Although I'm sure PS3 will still pass the 360 soon enough.Trinexxx

the console manufacturers don't ship their product for free. the retailers order them. that's a sale.

why exactly would the number of people owning the consoles matter to us?

[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

The despiration has won lol

clr84651

Denial that the PS3 is passing their 360 this year in sales. It's amazing it's taken so long. Just goes to show that more Americans only are buying the 360 which has held off the PS3 outselling the 360 till 2013. The PS3 has actually been outselling the 360 for 3 years now, but not by enough to outsell it overall till 2013. Good thing MS had all those extra sales from people replacing their RRoD'd 360s or else they would've been in 3rd the beginning of 2012 or sooner.

[QUOTE="Trinexxx"]"Shipped" doesn't translate to "sold". Although I'm sure PS3 will still pass the 360 soon enough.CaseyWegner

the console manufacturers don't ship their product for free. the retailers order them. that's a sale.

That's what I was thinking as well. It's not like Sony, MS, or Nintendo is going to ever buy back consoles they've sold to stores that are selling them.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

The despiration has won lol

clr84651

Denial that the PS3 is passing their 360 this year in sales. It's amazing it's taken so long. Just goes to show that more Americans only are buying the 360 which has held off the PS3 outselling the 360 till 2013. The PS3 has actually been outselling the 360 for 3 years now, but not by enough to outsell it overall till 2013. Good thing MS had all those extra sales from people replacing their RRoD'd 360s or else they would've been in 3rd the beginning of 2012 or sooner.

Why don't you back up this claim with some actual evidence...

Do you have any numbers?

Are they large enough to be considered relevant to this discussion?

Doesn't matter, still both crushed by Nintendo Led_poison

Ahh yes, but we all know the 360 and PS3 have superior graphics and hardware. You enjoy your little Chevy Aveo and we'll enjoy our Toyota Camry's.

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Doesn't matter, still both crushed by Nintendo clr84651

Ahh yes, but we all know the 360 and PS3 have superior graphics and hardware. You enjoy your little Chevy Aveo and we'll enjoy our Toyota Camry's.

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Doesn't matter, still both crushed by Nintendo clr84651

Ahh yes, but we all know the 360 and PS3 have superior graphics and hardware. You enjoy your little Chevy Aveo and we'll enjoy our Toyota Camry's.

And I'll enjoy my garage full of cars.:cool:

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] your butthurt is showing,that got under your skin :cool:Rocker6

Denial that the PS3 is passing their 360 this year in sales. It's amazing it's taken so long. Just goes to show that more Americans only are buying the 360 which has held off the PS3 outselling the 360 till 2013. The PS3 has actually been outselling the 360 for 3 years now, but not by enough to outsell it overall till 2013. Good thing MS had all those extra sales from people replacing their RRoD'd 360s or else they would've been in 3rd the beginning of 2012 or sooner.

Why don't you back up this claim with some actual evidence...

Do you have any numbers?

Are they large enough to be considered relevant to this discussion?

PS3 has outsold the 360 for 3 years straight. It will pass the 360 in 2013 at some point sooner or later. Anyone who follows any site that tracks sales would know this. VGChartz.com etc. And you can ask any mod on this site about Game Informer releasing an article stating the 360 had a 53% failure rate in the first 3 years and analysts also stated that as many as 5 million units extra were sold to replace all those failed units. I no longer have the article or the Game Informer that had it as it was years ago. Rest assured it's true.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="ToScA-"] I did always somewhat suspect you were just yet another deluded cow; I wasn't sure since you sometimes make good points. However, this post does indeed confirm that you are yet another deluded cow. The last sentence says it all; baselessly pulling numbers out of your arse to suit your argument...I guess that's the cow way. Dang, there were actually some decent cows around before this HD generation kickstarted. Skektek was one of the few knowing what he was talking about, but he's hardly around.ToScA-

The joke is on you my friend. You keep recycling your bullysh!t, with absolutely no links to back your statements up.

I provided SEVERAL links and did the math in a post that was well-constructed enough so that even a dimwit such as yourself would be able to comprehend that Microsoft have so far during this generation turned a $300 million profit from their Xbox division. I know they made massive losses last generation, but I have stressed numerous times that I am talking about this generation and contrasting their performance this generation with Sony's performance.

Microsoft's losses are nowhere NEAR $7.1 billion even if the losses from the original Xbox are factored in. Again, the cow mantra of:

Ass -> Numbers.

I've had enough of your nonsense and I have things that actually make sense to attend to. So I bid you farewell. Thank you and have a nice day.

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Doesn't matter, still both crushed by Nintendo clr84651

Ahh yes, but we all know the 360 and PS3 have superior graphics and hardware. You enjoy your little Chevy Aveo and we'll enjoy our Toyota Camry's.

*sigh*

Are you cows really this desperate?

Console generations aren't defined by the hardware power or graphics quality. Wii is a 7th generation console, that is a fact acknowledged by the entire gaming industry, and nothing you say can change it. PS3 or the 360 can only be second place sales wise...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Denial that the PS3 is passing their 360 this year in sales. It's amazing it's taken so long. Just goes to show that more Americans only are buying the 360 which has held off the PS3 outselling the 360 till 2013. The PS3 has actually been outselling the 360 for 3 years now, but not by enough to outsell it overall till 2013. Good thing MS had all those extra sales from people replacing their RRoD'd 360s or else they would've been in 3rd the beginning of 2012 or sooner.

clr84651

Why don't you back up this claim with some actual evidence...

Do you have any numbers?

Are they large enough to be considered relevant to this discussion?

PS3 has outsold the 360 for 3 years straight. It will pass the 360 in 2013 at some point sooner or later. Anyone who follows any site that tracks sales would know this. VGChartz.com etc. And you can ask any mod on this site about Game Informer releasing an article stating the 360 had a 53% failure rate in the first 3 years and analysts also stated that as many as 5 million units extra were sold to replace all those failed units. I no longer have the article or the Game Informer that had it as it was years ago. Rest assured it's true.

Oh, I'm well aware of the failure rates, but I still don't see any proof for those 5 million extra units sold. Your word isn't exactly going to persuade me...

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Doesn't matter, still both crushed by Nintendo Rocker6

Ahh yes, but we all know the 360 and PS3 have superior graphics and hardware. You enjoy your little Chevy Aveo and we'll enjoy our Toyota Camry's.

*sigh*

Are you cows really this desperate?

Console generations aren't defined by the hardware power or graphics quality. Wii is a 7th generation console, that is a fact acknowledged by the entire gaming industry, and nothing you say can change it. PS3 or the 360 can only be second place sales wise...

Gimmicky controls and a cheap price sold the Wii not the fact it was the best console. If you own a Chevy Aveo and your neighbor owns a nice fully loaded Toyota Camry who wins? Even if the Chevy Aveo sales more it's not better. PS3 and 360 quality and performance>>>Wii

[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] http://www.gamespot.com/news/bach-gaming-to-turn-a-profit-for-microsoft-in-fiscal-08-6154809 1.26 billion loss. http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/20/xbox-division-has-1-9-billion-loss-blame-red-rings/ 1.9 billion loss.. Dude stop this are old news MS loss 3.1 billion on the very starts of the generation + 4 billions that MS was already carrying total 7.1 have a nice day sir.tormentos

You truly ARE a full-blown retard :lol: I factored in those losses in my original calculations; but you conveniently omit the profits they made this generation, which I showed in that very post. I'll be nice to you so you don't get lost on your way out. I mean, you're evidently crying for help..so I'll quote my original post that you either:

1) Didn't read.

2) Read but didn't understand.

3) Read and understood but ignored.

And there, I'm done with you. You'll have to help your own sorry self from hereon. Ta!

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Point to me how MS has made any profits.? 7.1 billion in losses in 2 generations,which have not come back yet,at least sony knows what profits once felt like,taking the xbox into account MS has not made a single cent out of its gaming division ever...ToScA-

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36011/Microsofts_Xbox_360_Division_Sees_132_Billion_Profit_For_Fiscal_Year_2011.php#.UO7MQnd8GJk

"Microsoft's Xbox 360 Division Sees $1.32 Billion Profit For Fiscal Year 2011"

"$618 million in 2010."

http://kotaku.com/5321559/xbox-division-sees-66-percent-slide-in-09-profit-despite-11-million-units-shipped

"$169 million in 2009 "

"$497 million in 2008"

http://www.techpowerup.com/50729/Microsoft-s-Xbox-Division-Profitable-for-the-First-Time-Posts-$524M-Profit.html

"2007 fiscal year, the division amassed $3.98 billion in revenue but reported a loss of $423 million"

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2162441,00.asp

"Microsoft Xbox Division Posts $1.9B Loss for 2006"

Adding these numbers up, Microsoft have profited about $300m off their Xbox division this generation. Surely an improvement on the $4 billion loss of the previous generation. The $1.1 billion in expenses they suffered because of RROD didn't quite help them.

Did i miss something?, i thought we had already ascertained that these figures are not official, i love the way cows are Flaming lems for using VG charts yet there basis for there entire argument are figures that are just as Dubious, Again for all those that didn't get the point earlier ' Its also important to note that its unclear if these numbers were garnered straight from sources at Sony and Microsoft, or are part of IDCs overall forecast.' http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total I suggest we wait until we get OFFICIAL figures, it's very likely the Ps3 has passed the 360 but it's FAR from being official, think about it lems, what if cows are right?egg on your faces, think about it cows, if IDC come out and say those figures whre just a forcast you are going to end up looking like the most stupid Fanbase on the planet, having made the claim cows have far more to lose than lems if this goes aginst them.delta3074

Did i miss something?, i thought we had already ascertained that these figures are not official, i love the way cows are Flaming lems for using VG charts yet there basis for there entire argument are figures that are just as Dubious, Again for all those that didn't get the point earlier ' Its also important to note that its unclear if these numbers were garnered straight from sources at Sony and Microsoft, or are part of IDCs overall forecast.' http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total I suggest we wait until we get OFFICIAL figures, it's very likely the Ps3 has passed the 360 but it's FAR from being official, think about it lems, what if cows are right?egg on your faces, think about it cows, if IDC come out and say those figures whre just a forcast you are going to end up looking like the most stupid Fanbase on the planet, having made the claim cows have far more to lose than lems if this goes aginst them.delta3074

PS3 is about to outsell the 360 globally. Whether it has happened right now or it happens 4-6 months from now doesn't matter. The trend for the past 3 years will continue and that's the PS3 outselling the 360 each year. The difference is now the PS3 is in striking range to actually pass it in 2013.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Denial that the PS3 is passing their 360 this year in sales. It's amazing it's taken so long. Just goes to show that more Americans only are buying the 360 which has held off the PS3 outselling the 360 till 2013. The PS3 has actually been outselling the 360 for 3 years now, but not by enough to outsell it overall till 2013. Good thing MS had all those extra sales from people replacing their RRoD'd 360s or else they would've been in 3rd the beginning of 2012 or sooner.

clr84651

Why don't you back up this claim with some actual evidence...

Do you have any numbers?

Are they large enough to be considered relevant to this discussion?

PS3 has outsold the 360 for 3 years straight. It will pass the 360 in 2013 at some point sooner or later. Anyone who follows any site that tracks sales would know this. VGChartz.com etc. And you can ask any mod on this site about Game Informer releasing an article stating the 360 had a 53% failure rate in the first 3 years and analysts also stated that as many as 5 million units extra were sold to replace all those failed units. I no longer have the article or the Game Informer that had it as it was years ago. Rest assured it's true.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Did i miss something?, i thought we had already ascertained that these figures are not official, i love the way cows are Flaming lems for using VG charts yet there basis for there entire argument are figures that are just as Dubious, Again for all those that didn't get the point earlier ' Its also important to note that its unclear if these numbers were garnered straight from sources at Sony and Microsoft, or are part of IDCs overall forecast.' http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total I suggest we wait until we get OFFICIAL figures, it's very likely the Ps3 has passed the 360 but it's FAR from being official, think about it lems, what if cows are right?egg on your faces, think about it cows, if IDC come out and say those figures whre just a forcast you are going to end up looking like the most stupid Fanbase on the planet, having made the claim cows have far more to lose than lems if this goes aginst them.clr84651

PS3 is about to outsell the 360 globally. Whether it has happened right now or it happens 4-6 months from now doesn't matter. The trend for the past 3 years will continue and that's the PS3 outselling the 360 each year. The difference is now the PS3 is in striking range to actually pass it in 2013.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Did i miss something?, i thought we had already ascertained that these figures are not official, i love the way cows are Flaming lems for using VG charts yet there basis for there entire argument are figures that are just as Dubious, Again for all those that didn't get the point earlier ' Its also important to note that its unclear if these numbers were garnered straight from sources at Sony and Microsoft, or are part of IDCs overall forecast.' http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total I suggest we wait until we get OFFICIAL figures, it's very likely the Ps3 has passed the 360 but it's FAR from being official, think about it lems, what if cows are right?egg on your faces, think about it cows, if IDC come out and say those figures whre just a forcast you are going to end up looking like the most stupid Fanbase on the planet, having made the claim cows have far more to lose than lems if this goes aginst them.clr84651

PS3 is about to outsell the 360 globally. Whether it has happened right now or it happens 4-6 months from now doesn't matter. The trend for the past 3 years will continue and that's the PS3 outselling the 360 each year. The difference is now the PS3 is in striking range to actually pass it in 2013.

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Did i miss something?, i thought we had already ascertained that these figures are not official, i love the way cows are Flaming lems for using VG charts yet there basis for there entire argument are figures that are just as Dubious, Again for all those that didn't get the point earlier ' Its also important to note that its unclear if these numbers were garnered straight from sources at Sony and Microsoft, or are part of IDCs overall forecast.' http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total I suggest we wait until we get OFFICIAL figures, it's very likely the Ps3 has passed the 360 but it's FAR from being official, think about it lems, what if cows are right?egg on your faces, think about it cows, if IDC come out and say those figures whre just a forcast you are going to end up looking like the most stupid Fanbase on the planet, having made the claim cows have far more to lose than lems if this goes aginst them.delta3074

PS3 is about to outsell the 360 globally. Whether it has happened right now or it happens 4-6 months from now doesn't matter. The trend for the past 3 years will continue and that's the PS3 outselling the 360 each year. The difference is now the PS3 is in striking range to actually pass it in 2013.

lol is there even a shred of legitimacy left in this discussion?

And just like that the last crutch Lems had disappears. :lol:

Happy New Year! :lol:

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

Ahh yes, but we all know the 360 and PS3 have superior graphics and hardware. You enjoy your little Chevy Aveo and we'll enjoy our Toyota Camry's.

clr84651

*sigh*

Are you cows really this desperate?

Console generations aren't defined by the hardware power or graphics quality. Wii is a 7th generation console, that is a fact acknowledged by the entire gaming industry, and nothing you say can change it. PS3 or the 360 can only be second place sales wise...

Gimmicky controls and a cheap price sold the Wii not the fact it was the best console. If you own a Chevy Aveo and your neighbor owns a nice fully loaded Toyota Camry who wins? Even if the Chevy Aveo sales more it's not better. PS3 and 360 quality and performance>>>Wii

I'm not commenting on Wii's overall quality, game library, graphics, or whatever. Personally, I also see no appeal in it...

I'm only saying it's a 7th gen console that outsold both the PS3 and the 360, and that is an irrefutable fact. You may not like it, but what's there is there...

Cows and lems providing some laughs!

lol is there even a shred of legitimacy left in this discussion?

Assassin_87

The entire discussion is based around an unofficial report, so don't think this had any legitimacy in the first place...

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="_Cadbury_"] Lol you sound so mad. themajormayor

I use smilies all the time. u mad?:D:?:evil::twisted::):oops::o:P:arrow::idea::question::!:;):twisted::roll::x:|

360 has nothing to worry about it..it ended second just when the new generations started :cool:Tessellation

Lol 800+ pages. Some sh*t must have gone down here.tagyhag

800 pages? :| How many comments do you have per page? :P

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Why would I be mad? Sales don't affect me in any way. It would be dumb to be angry over something that doesn't concern me. Why do you care?mems_1224

I use smilies all the time. u mad?:D:?:evil::twisted::):oops::o:P:arrow::idea::question::!:;):twisted::roll::x:|

IDC the most reliable name in the game industry.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]360 has nothing to worry about it..it ended second just when the new generations started :cool:tormentos

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Lol 800+ pages. Some sh*t must have gone down here.blue_hazy_basic

800 pages? :| How many comments do you have per page? :P

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Did i miss something?, i thought we had already ascertained that these figures are not official, i love the way cows are Flaming lems for using VG charts yet there basis for there entire argument are figures that are just as Dubious, Again for all those that didn't get the point earlier ' Its also important to note that its unclear if these numbers were garnered straight from sources at Sony and Microsoft, or are part of IDCs overall forecast.' http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total I suggest we wait until we get OFFICIAL figures, it's very likely the Ps3 has passed the 360 but it's FAR from being official, think about it lems, what if cows are right?egg on your faces, think about it cows, if IDC come out and say those figures whre just a forcast you are going to end up looking like the most stupid Fanbase on the planet, having made the claim cows have far more to lose than lems if this goes aginst them.delta3074

PS3 is about to outsell the 360 globally. Whether it has happened right now or it happens 4-6 months from now doesn't matter. The trend for the past 3 years will continue and that's the PS3 outselling the 360 each year. The difference is now the PS3 is in striking range to actually pass it in 2013.

This thread is wrong because the PS3 is actually in 1st place now. The Xbox is in second and the Wii U is in last, the Wii was never a current gen system, it was in the same gen with the GameCube. Even Miyamato said so, and you can't argue with Miyamoto :cool:

Miyamoto On the Wii: "The Hardware Is Basically A GameCube."

[QUOTE="tormentos"] http://www.gamespot.com/news/bach-gaming-to-turn-a-profit-for-microsoft-in-fiscal-08-6154809 1.26 billion loss. http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/20/xbox-division-has-1-9-billion-loss-blame-red-rings/ 1.9 billion loss.. Dude stop this are old news MS loss 3.1 billion on the very starts of the generation + 4 billions that MS was already carrying total 7.1 have a nice day sir.delta3074

Glad to see someone who is so devoted to a company that doesn't even care for his existence and yet he still tracks there shares....that is some good devotion right there.