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#1 Berserker_2
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Although Nintendo never released specs for the Wii, Robbie Bach (Microsoft) knows the truth:

"...their (Nintendo Wii) ability to compete with something like a Halo or produce an experience like Madden on their system is going to be tough. They don't have the graphics horsepower that even Xbox 1 had. So it makes sort of the comparison set a little bit difficult." LINK

 

 

 

 

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#2 loco145
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The GC alone was about the same.
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#3 mirlegend
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and he knows this how?
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#4 AB_Uppercut
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wait if Nintendo hasn't revealed the specs for the Wii yet then why ? is it possible the Wii is inferior to last gen consoles :o
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#5 loco145
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and he knows this how?mirlegend

He read it at System Wars board. 

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#6 loco145
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wait if Nintendo hasn't revealed the specs for the Wii yet then why ? is it possible the Wii is inferior to last gen consoles :oAB_Uppercut

No, is not possible. 

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Although Nintendo never released specs for the Wii, Robbie Bach (Microsoft) knows the truth:

"...their (Nintendo Wii) ability to compete with something like a Halo or produce an experience like Madden on their system is going to be tough. They don't have the graphics horsepower that even Xbox 1 had. So it makes sort of the comparison set a little bit difficult." LINK
Berserker_2

Of course Microsoft developers have intimate knowledge of the Wii's architecture, and have absolutely no reason to glorify themselves against Nintendo.

Do you believe Sony developers when they say PS3 games won't work on 360? 

 

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#8 IronMaidenLives
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I'm sure anyone from MS speaking about the Wii is a very unbiased person.

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#9 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Because MS has developed so many games for their direct competitor.
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#10 Iorning_board
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If that is indeed true then the 360 is about to be taken over by something weaker than its pre-decessor. Self Owned.

Though I would like to see the X-Box run Galaxy...

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The GC alone was about the same.loco145

Exactly. It was all about reducing the size, not about increasing power. My theory is that the Wii was originally planned as a smaller Gamecube to reduce costs. It then turned into the Wii when Microsoft announced the 360. 

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I don't know one way or the other if the Wii is more or less powerful than the Xbox, but but it would be nice if Mr. Robbie Bach had anything to backup his statements. 

It annoys me that there are no official specs for the Wii.

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I don't know one way or the other if the Wii is more or less powerful than the Xbox, but it would be nice if Mr. Robbie Bach had anything to backup his statements.  Anyone can make up crap (see Sony talking heads).

It annoys me that there are no official specs for the Wii.

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and he knows this how?mirlegend

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.) 

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The face that the cube went toe to toe with xbox and at times passed it shows that this PR guy is full of sh*t...
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#16 Hoffgod
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So says Microsoft. Yes. They're a totally unbiased source we can use in this case to cut through the fog of nonsense and delve into the issue at hand like none other.
Yes sir. Nobody knows Nintendo consoles quite like Microsoft...
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Well clearly he knows everything about the wii. I mean his opinion is as good as technical specs right?
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[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.) 

You know.

I bet that's EXACTLY what he did to form his opinion.

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[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.) 

You know.

I bet that's EXACTLY what he did to form his opinion.

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#20 JustAGamer01
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[QUOTE="loco145"]The GC alone was about the same.Berserker_2

Exactly. It was all about reducing the size, not about increasing power. My theory is that the Wii was originally planned as a smaller Gamecube to reduce costs. It then turned into the Wii when Microsoft announced the 360. 

And ur theory should be the other way around, because nintendo actually planned on makin a super console but decided to opt out and reduce it a bit...
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[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.)

But then how is it official? If Sony came out and said the PS2 was more powerful than the 360, by your standard of proof that would be official.

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[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.) 

Oh, boy! That surely qualifies him to know everything about the Wii!

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wait if Nintendo hasn't revealed the specs for the Wii yet then why ? is it possible the Wii is inferior to last gen consoles :oAB_Uppercut

If only the Sheep would ask themselves that question.

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Does anyone care? :|
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#25 BrooklynBomber
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Maybe he's looking at the crappy graphics on the wii ???
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this thread is now set to self-destruct.....in t minus 2 minutes...
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The GC alone was about the same.loco145
No it wasn't. The Xbox had more RAM and a faster GPU that supported DX8 shaders. Which one had the more powerful CPU is debatable.
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Wait let me get this straight. The Wii is less powerful then the Xbox yet the games run smoother, look better and don't freeze up like some xbox games. I love the logic. Does that mean if Nintendo used Super Nintendo hardware instead that the Wii would be more Powerful tha the PS3 and Xbox 360 combined?

Freakin' nOObs.

 

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[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.) 

he knows as much as gamers know.

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Wait let me get this straight. The Wii is less powerful then the Xbox yet the games run smoother, look better and don't freeze up like some xbox games. I love the logic. Does that mean if Nintendo used Super Nintendo hardware instead that the Wii would be more Powerful tha the PS3 and Xbox 360 combined?

Freakin' nOObs.

 

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Which Wii games look better than Xbox games?
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Wait let me get this straight. The Wii is less powerful then the Xbox yet the games run smoother, look better and don't freeze up like some xbox games. I love the logic. Does that mean if Nintendo used Super Nintendo hardware instead that the Wii would be more Powerful tha the PS3 and Xbox 360 combined?

Freakin' nOObs.

 

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Which Wii games look better than Xbox games? I own both systems, so I can rent any to compare.
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U get a gold star! special boy.
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Although Nintendo never released specs for the Wii, Robbie Bach (Microsoft) knows the truth:

"...their (Nintendo Wii) ability to compete with something like a Halo or produce an experience like Madden on their system is going to be tough. They don't have the graphics horsepower that even Xbox 1 had. So it makes sort of the comparison set a little bit difficult." LINK

 

 

 

 

Berserker_2

LOL, oh yes, microsoft knows everything about the Wii's hardware:roll:. You actually think they are going to be honest about Wii's power:lol:

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#34 Berserker_2
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[QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?IronMaidenLives

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.)

Oh, boy! That surely qualifies him to know everything about the Wii!

He does have a reputation to uphold. He is also held accountable by investors and the public media.

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[QUOTE="loco145"]The GC alone was about the same.JimmyT2
No it wasn't. The Xbox had more RAM and a faster GPU that supported DX8 shaders. Which one had the more powerful CPU is debatable.

The xbox was bottlenecked to hell.
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.)

Oh, boy! That surely qualifies him to know everything about the Wii!

He does have a reputation to uphold. He is also held accountable by investors and the public media.

it doesn't matter, we should here this from someone who doesn't work with Microsoft or Sony. As long he is a Microsoft employee his credibility about Wii is pretty low.

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[QUOTE="chronoblazer"]

Wait let me get this straight. The Wii is less powerful then the Xbox yet the games run smoother, look better and don't freeze up like some xbox games. I love the logic. Does that mean if Nintendo used Super Nintendo hardware instead that the Wii would be more Powerful tha the PS3 and Xbox 360 combined?

Freakin' nOObs.

 

JimmyT2

Which Wii games look better than Xbox games? I own both systems, so I can rent any to compare.

Compare SSX Blur to SSX 3 and Sonic & tSR (specially the last 2 stages) to any other SOnic game on the xbox. 

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[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="loco145"]The GC alone was about the same.loco145
No it wasn't. The Xbox had more RAM and a faster GPU that supported DX8 shaders. Which one had the more powerful CPU is debatable.

The xbox was bottlenecked to hell.

Not really. The system came out in 2001 and it could handle the likes on Doom 3. That's impressive and no other system that gen would have had a chance of running this game.
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.)

Oh, boy! That surely qualifies him to know everything about the Wii!

He does have a reputation to uphold. He is also held accountable by investors and the public media.

And that reputation being that he's an idiot?...

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He does have a reputation to uphold. He is also held accountable by investors and the public media. Berserker_2
You think the investors and mass media give a damn about what he said here? No. No they don't. So he doesn't have any real risk to his reputation.

The man could've pretty much said whatever he wanted, and he did. And it's a load of nonsense. 

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[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="chronoblazer"]

Wait let me get this straight. The Wii is less powerful then the Xbox yet the games run smoother, look better and don't freeze up like some xbox games. I love the logic. Does that mean if Nintendo used Super Nintendo hardware instead that the Wii would be more Powerful tha the PS3 and Xbox 360 combined?

Freakin' nOObs.

 

loco145

Which Wii games look better than Xbox games? I own both systems, so I can rent any to compare.

Compare SSX Blur to SSX 3 and Sonic & tSR (specially the last 2 stages) to any other SOnic game on the xbox. 

I wouldn't say Sonic games are the graphical showcases for Xbox, they don't look much better than the DC ones really. The Xbox has some games that look worse then Wii games but it also has a lot of ones that look better.
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="loco145"]The GC alone was about the same.JimmyT2
No it wasn't. The Xbox had more RAM and a faster GPU that supported DX8 shaders. Which one had the more powerful CPU is debatable.

The xbox was bottlenecked to hell.

Not really. The system came out in 2001 and it could handle the likes on Doom 3. That's impressive and no other system that gen would have had a chance of running this game.

Doom 3 looks pretty bland compared to the PC version, if that is what you mean

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and he knows this how?mirlegend

That is what is extra funny about lemmings hyping this quote.  Aside from the fact that lemmings are proving themselves the most eagre of all fanboys to swallow PR spin from the corporation as if it were god's own truth....this MS guy is clearly looking at Xbox games and Wii games and acting like, because Wii games aren't showing graphical superiority it MUST be because the console isn't as powerful.

There is so much lying going on with this (and lemmings hyping it) that it only proves how few real gamers there are these days.

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[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="loco145"]The GC alone was about the same.loco145
No it wasn't. The Xbox had more RAM and a faster GPU that supported DX8 shaders. Which one had the more powerful CPU is debatable.

The xbox was bottlenecked to hell.

Sure did not seem like it to me the xbox had the best graphics and load times last gen imo. I have yet to see any game from the gamecube/wii surpass riddick,ninja gaiden or black. The best graphics I saw on the gamecube was maybe RE4  and the wii well lets just say it's severely lacking.

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#45 loco145
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I wouldn't say Sonic games are the graphical showcases for Xbox, they don't look much better than the DC ones really. The Xbox has some games that look worse then Wii games but it also has a lot of ones that look better.JimmyT2

Exaclty, if Sega managed to pull S&tSR of the Wii, imagine what someone serious could do. (looks at SMG).

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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.)

Oh, boy! That surely qualifies him to know everything about the Wii!

He does have a reputation to uphold. He is also held accountable by investors and the public media.

I think his investors and the media are interested in things of more substance.

That said, you don't think firms lie each day about their competitors? 

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Ohh so this piece of info really does exist........ It seems Microsoft have been experimenting and or doing some games with the Wii.
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[QUOTE="chronoblazer"]

Wait let me get this straight. The Wii is less powerful then the Xbox yet the games run smoother, look better and don't freeze up like some xbox games. I love the logic. Does that mean if Nintendo used Super Nintendo hardware instead that the Wii would be more Powerful tha the PS3 and Xbox 360 combined?

Freakin' nOObs.

 

JimmyT2

Which Wii games look better than Xbox games? I own both systems, so I can rent any to compare.

Try Far Cry, Splinter Cell DA, or any other multi-plat game.

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#49 JustAGamer01
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="loco145"]The GC alone was about the same.BrooklynBomber

No it wasn't. The Xbox had more RAM and a faster GPU that supported DX8 shaders. Which one had the more powerful CPU is debatable.

The xbox was bottlenecked to hell.

Sure did not seem like it to me the xbox had the best graphics and load times last gen imo. I have yet to see any game from the gamecube/wii surpass riddick,ninja gaiden or black. The best graphics I saw on the gamecube was maybe RE4  and the wii well lets just say it's severely lacking.

Then ur really easy to impress, the cube had more than just RE4, it had prime, rouge squadron, windwaker, TP, REmake, RE0, and crap load of others and those easily beat gaiden and riddick, o and the cube had the best loading times....

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[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="loco145"]The GC alone was about the same.loco145

No it wasn't. The Xbox had more RAM and a faster GPU that supported DX8 shaders. Which one had the more powerful CPU is debatable.

The xbox was bottlenecked to hell.

Not really. The system came out in 2001 and it could handle the likes on Doom 3. That's impressive and no other system that gen would have had a chance of running this game.

Doom 3 looks pretty bland compared to the PC version, if that is what you mean

Doom 3 was ported by Vicarious Visions (not ID). Riddick looked much better than Doom 3.Â