It's official Xbox 1 more powerful than Wii

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.Berserker_2

Link? 

[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]So Nintendo gave him the Spec sheet, and no one else? Please. He doesn't know jackcrap... JustAGamer01

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

If the chips are new how are devs using the old gamecube dev kits then ??

How is the wii backward compatible with the cube without the old chipset or emulation software ??

I don't know could be the wii is a faster clocked cube with more/faster memory and a couple extra gpu shaders mmmmm???

Maybe just maybe devs talk about what they are working on with other people in the industry and some are making games for the 360 as well??

I don't know the exact specs for the wii as nintendo seems to be keeping them a secret out of shame for selling a cube with motion for $250 in a slim package.

We all see that the graphics for the wii suck even by the old cube standards and anybody that had a cube and xbox know the xbox looked better. So far I would have to say yes the old xbox games look better than what's out on the wii and any one with good eyes (20/20) would agree with me on that.

Let me put it another way could devs use the xbox dev kits to make games for the 360 ??

Could devs use the ps2 dev kit to make games for the ps3 ??

Stay with me here this is important!!

How is it possible that devs can use the cube dev kit to make wii games if the wii is all new hardware ??

Why did Satoru Iwata admit that wii games could run on the cube ??

Here are the words of the digital god Shigeru Miyamoto:

" The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are. With that in mind, I thought we could remake GC titles for the Wii and modify them to work with the Wii remote so that they're more fun to play."

That's right even Nintendo admits  it so why can't you ??

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

cobrax80

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

tell me? what year was the Xbox released and what year did this game come out?

This game came out 3 years ago. If the Wii is as poweful as Xbox 1, it should have a game that matches a 3 year old game.

^^^^ are u serious? using a good pic of Riddic dont mean sh*t... try again....

Hey can anyone get the best screen to prove this fool is wrong of RE4?

[QUOTE="JustAGamer01"][QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]So Nintendo gave him the Spec sheet, and no one else? Please. He doesn't know jackcrap... BrooklynBomber

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

If the chips are new how are devs using the old gamecube dev kits then ??

How is the wii backward compatible with the cube without the old chipset or emulation software ??

I don't know could be the wii is a faster clocked cube with more/faster memory and a couple extra gpu shaders mmmmm???

Maybe just maybe devs talk about what they are working on with other people in the industry and some are making games for the 360 as well??

I don't know the exact specs for the wii as nintendo seems to be keeping them a secret out of shame for selling a cube with motion for $250 in a slim package.

We all see that the graphics for the wii suck even by the old cube standards and anybody that had a cube and xbox know the xbox looked better. So far I would have to say yes the old xbox games look better than what's out on the wii and any one with good eyes (20/20) would agree with me on that.

Let me put it another way could devs use the xbox dev kits to make games for the 360 ??

Could devs use the ps2 dev kit to make games for the ps3 ??

Stay with me here this is important!!

How is it possible that devs can use the cube dev kit to make wii games if the wii is all new hardware ??

Why did Satoru Iwata admit that wii games could run on the cube ??

Here are the words of the digital god Shigeru Miyamoto:

" The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are. With that in mind, I thought we could remake GC titles for the Wii and modify them to work with the Wii remote so that they're more fun to play."

That's right even Nintendo admits  it so why can't you ??

oh yes, the famous Miyamoto quote, so what you are saying is that Gamecube dev kits have been used to create some wii games and not Wii dev kits. O.k, so what is your point?

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.HeedleGlavin

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month.  That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.Berserker_2

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month.  That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

dude? give him the link, where are you getting your info from?

So if Microsoft says there console is better than it is? That's a load of crap.OhhSnap50893

exactly, this thread has been over for long time.

So if Microsoft says there console is better than it is? That's a load of crap.OhhSnap50893

exactly, this thread has been over for a long time.

[QUOTE="JustAGamer01"][QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]So Nintendo gave him the Spec sheet, and no one else? Please. He doesn't know jackcrap... BrooklynBomber

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

If the chips are new how are devs using the old gamecube dev kits then ??

How is the wii backward compatible with the cube without the old chipset or emulation software ??

I don't know could be the wii is a faster clocked cube with more/faster memory and a couple extra gpu shaders mmmmm???

Maybe just maybe devs talk about what they are working on with other people in the industry and some are making games for the 360 as well??

I don't know the exact specs for the wii as nintendo seems to be keeping them a secret out of shame for selling a cube with motion for $250 in a slim package.

We all see that the graphics for the wii suck even by the old cube standards and anybody that had a cube and xbox know the xbox looked better. So far I would have to say yes the old xbox games look better than what's out on the wii and any one with good eyes (20/20) would agree with me on that.

Let me put it another way could devs use the xbox dev kits to make games for the 360 ??

Could devs use the ps2 dev kit to make games for the ps3 ??

Stay with me here this is important!!

How is it possible that devs can use the cube dev kit to make wii games if the wii is all new hardware ??

Why did Satoru Iwata admit that wii games could run on the cube ??

Here are the words of the digital god Shigeru Miyamoto:

" The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are. With that in mind, I thought we could remake GC titles for the Wii and modify them to work with the Wii remote so that they're more fun to play."

That's right even Nintendo admits  it so why can't you ??

 U seem to be provin my point... the cube unlike the 360 and PS3 has a new controller right? so in order to make a game for the wii, even though they didnt have finished hardware they needed to use the dev kits which were cubes with a controller tithered to it, then a second kit came out which was more powerful then finally the offical chip sets were ready. When the 360 first came every game looked like an xbox game with gloss and mapping...stop using Fanboy BS and dribble...

[QUOTE="JustAGamer01"][QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

[QUOTE="JimmyT2"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]So Nintendo gave him the Spec sheet, and no one else? Please. He doesn't know jackcrap... BrooklynBomber

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

If the chips are new how are devs using the old gamecube dev kits then ??

How is the wii backward compatible with the cube without the old chipset or emulation software ??

I don't know could be the wii is a faster clocked cube with more/faster memory and a couple extra gpu shaders mmmmm???

Maybe just maybe devs talk about what they are working on with other people in the industry and some are making games for the 360 as well??

I don't know the exact specs for the wii as nintendo seems to be keeping them a secret out of shame for selling a cube with motion for $250 in a slim package.

We all see that the graphics for the wii suck even by the old cube standards and anybody that had a cube and xbox know the xbox looked better. So far I would have to say yes the old xbox games look better than what's out on the wii and any one with good eyes (20/20) would agree with me on that.

Let me put it another way could devs use the xbox dev kits to make games for the 360 ??

Could devs use the ps2 dev kit to make games for the ps3 ??

Stay with me here this is important!!

How is it possible that devs can use the cube dev kit to make wii games if the wii is all new hardware ??

Why did Satoru Iwata admit that wii games could run on the cube ??

Here are the words of the digital god Shigeru Miyamoto:

" The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are. With that in mind, I thought we could remake GC titles for the Wii and modify them to work with the Wii remote so that they're more fun to play."

That's right even Nintendo admits  it so why can't you ??

 U seem to be provin my point... the cube unlike the 360 and PS3 has a new controller right? so in order to make a game for the wii, even though they didnt have finished hardware they needed to use the dev kits which were cubes with a controller tithered to it, then a second kit came out which was more powerful then finally the offical chip sets were ready. When the 360 first came every game looked like an xbox game with gloss and mapping...stop using Fanboy BS and dribble...

EDIT: Also miyamoto didnt say the wii was a cube he said the archittecture was similar, u do know what similar means right? close but not teh same... teh power of teh wii is vastly superior to the cube..

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.Jandurin

Link?

There's one.

LOL. I actually clicked the link. (It reminds me of my previous post about the System Wars main forum having the same number as "pi". pi=3.1459.... I joked that System Wars had circular arguments)

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.Berserker_2

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month.  That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]So if Microsoft says there console is better than it is? That's a load of crap.cobrax80

exactly, this thread has been over for long time.

Wrong. Microsoft didn't say the Xbox 1 was "better". Bach specifically stated that the Xbox 1 is more powerful (graphically). 

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.HeedleGlavin

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month.  That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

Heedle and cobra stop owning this guy I think hes had enough for today....

[QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]So if Microsoft says there console is better than it is? That's a load of crap.Berserker_2

exactly, this thread has been over for long time.

Wrong. Microsoft didn't say the Xbox 1 was "better". Bach specifically stated that the Xbox 1 is more powerful (graphically). 

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.HeedleGlavin

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month. That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

It's over 11 million for the 360. NPD stated 10.4 million by January 1. Sheep keep trying to guess the difference between "sold to retail" and "sold to consumers". If the only numbers we recieve are "sold to retail" we must go by those. Finally, the Wii sales dropped from 400,000 to 250,000 last month in the U.S. Demand is slowing for the Wii.

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.Berserker_2

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month. That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

It's over 11 million for the 360. NPD stated 10.4 million by January 1. Sheep keep trying to guess the difference between "sold to retail" and "sold to consumers". If the only numbers we recieve are "sold to retail" we must go by those. Finally, the Wii sales dropped from 400,000 to 250,000 last month in the U.S. Demand is slowing for the Wii.

once again you fail to provide a link

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.Berserker_2

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month. That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

It's over 11 million for the 360. NPD stated 10.4 million by January 1. Sheep keep trying to guess the difference between "sold to retail" and "sold to consumers". If the only numbers we recieve are "sold to retail" we must go by those. Finally, the Wii sales dropped from 400,000 to 250,000 last month in the U.S. Demand is slowing for the Wii.

ok read this. 

Or for the lazier posters here's an excerpt of the interview

IGN: Graphically speaking, what changes were made when going from version to version? Is Scarface a direct port of either the Xbox version or the PS2? What was added/removed when bringing the game over on a graphical standpoint?

Thomas: We've overhauled the graphics engine to get the most out of the Wii. In a lot of ways the Wii edition of Scarface visually outperforms the PS2 and Xbox versions.

I'm not saying that scarface was a graphical achievement but still

[QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

Berserker_2

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]So if Microsoft says there console is better than it is? That's a load of crap.HeedleGlavin

exactly, this thread has been over for long time.

Wrong. Microsoft didn't say the Xbox 1 was "better". Bach specifically stated that the Xbox 1 is more powerful (graphically).

PR is describing the weaknesses of the competition and the strengths of your own platform. Sometimes PR is vague when you are hiding your own weakness (such as Nintendo's decision to keep Wii specs secret). Or, PR is detailed to expose a flaw (such as Xbox 1 is more powerful than a machine made 5 years later).

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

88Ghost89

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

It's hard to believe, but Riddick really looks that good on Xbox 1. That isn't the best looking pic, either. There are bright levels (white) that look amazing.  I can't find any pics of the bright levels, though.

ok read this. 

Or for the lazier posters here's an excerpt of the interview

IGN: Graphically speaking, what changes were made when going from version to version? Is Scarface a direct port of either the Xbox version or the PS2? What was added/removed when bringing the game over on a graphical standpoint?

Thomas: We've overhauled the graphics engine to get the most out of the Wii. In a lot of ways the Wii edition of Scarface visually outperforms the PS2 and Xbox versions.

Keibo

I'm not saying that scarface was a graphical achievement but still

oh yeah, i forgot about that, thanks. That pretty much does it, this thread is over. He said in "a-lot of ways", meaning the Wii is generally more powerful than the Xbox which is what IGN has confirmed a long time ago.

Dude just stop u've been owned so hard ur spewing BS now.. The reason nintendo didnt release specs were because they're not important same deal with game cube for showing teh specs.. its not because teh consoles are weak...

ok read this. 

Or for the lazier posters here's an excerpt of the interview

IGN: Graphically speaking, what changes were made when going from version to version? Is Scarface a direct port of either the Xbox version or the PS2? What was added/removed when bringing the game over on a graphical standpoint?

Thomas: We've overhauled the graphics engine to get the most out of the Wii. In a lot of ways the Wii edition of Scarface visually outperforms the PS2 and Xbox versions.

Keibo

I'm not saying that scarface was a graphical achievement but still

This pretty much ends the thread, he said "in a-lot of ways", so that means the Wii is generall more powerful than the Xbox as was confirmed by IGN a long time ago.

ok read this. 

Or for the lazier posters here's an excerpt of the interview

IGN: Graphically speaking, what changes were made when going from version to version? Is Scarface a direct port of either the Xbox version or the PS2? What was added/removed when bringing the game over on a graphical standpoint?

Thomas: We've overhauled the graphics engine to get the most out of the Wii. In a lot of ways the Wii edition of Scarface visually outperforms the PS2 and Xbox versions.

Keibo

I'm not saying that scarface was a graphical achievement but still

This pretty much ends the thread, he said "in a-lot of ways", so that means the Wii is generally more powerful than the Xbox as was confirmed by IGN a long time ago.

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.cobrax80

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month. That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

It's over 11 million for the 360. NPD stated 10.4 million by January 1. Sheep keep trying to guess the difference between "sold to retail" and "sold to consumers". If the only numbers we recieve are "sold to retail" we must go by those. Finally, the Wii sales dropped from 400,000 to 250,000 last month in the U.S. Demand is slowing for the Wii.

once again you fail to provide a link

Microsoft hits 10.4 million 360's 

Wii sales drop in March 

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]and he knows this how?Berserker_2

He's a top executive at MS. He knows the competition. (He also has eye balls which he likely used to see Far Cry on both systems.)

 he is a bias source that talks out his ass. 

[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

cobrax80

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

tell me? what year was the Xbox released and what year did this game come out?

[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"]

[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"]It's official: Lemmings have become increasingly desperate in the face of their console being trampled by the Wii - even with a full year head start.Berserker_2

Link?

The console sales have been close between Wii and the 360. The 360 outsold the Wii by 500,000 consoles between Nov and Dec. The Wii played catchup the last few months and thus sold more units, but the gap is shrinking drastically with each month. That's not "getting trampled". Finally, game sales belong to the 360 and that is the key. Developers like it when games sell.

It's over 11 million for the 360. NPD stated 10.4 million by January 1. Sheep keep trying to guess the difference between "sold to retail" and "sold to consumers". If the only numbers we recieve are "sold to retail" we must go by those. Finally, the Wii sales dropped from 400,000 to 250,000 last month in the U.S. Demand is slowing for the Wii.

once again you fail to provide a link

Microsoft hits 10.4 million 360's 

Wii sales drop in March 

so the Wii sales drop, that means demand is falling? It could just mean that they are harder to supply and considering it's may and that the it's still outselling the 360 every month, id say it's fine.

[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

PelekotansDream

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

tell me? what year was the Xbox released and what year did this game come out?

dude, your comparing an entire system because one game looks good.

What casuses a game to look goo?, time and skills, so if you give a good developer enough time they can make a great looking game. The Wii is what? 5 months old.

[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

PelekotansDream

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

tell me? what year was the Xbox released and what year did this game come out?

dude, your comparing an entire system because one game looks good.

What causes a game to look good?, time and skills, so if you give a good developer enough time they can make a great looking game. The Wii is what? 5 months old.

[QUOTE="Keibo"]

ok read this.

Or for the lazier posters here's an excerpt of the interview

IGN: Graphically speaking, what changes were made when going from version to version? Is Scarface a direct port of either the Xbox version or the PS2? What was added/removed when bringing the game over on a graphical standpoint?

Thomas: We've overhauled the graphics engine to get the most out of the Wii. In a lot of ways the Wii edition of Scarface visually outperforms the PS2 and Xbox versions.

cobrax80

I'm not saying that scarface was a graphical achievement but still

This pretty much ends the thread, he said "in a-lot of ways", so that means the Wii is generally more powerful than the Xbox as was confirmed by IGN a long time ago.

"in a-lot of ways" means that it doesn't support shaders. If he said "in every way", it would have realtime shadows and normal mapping.

Ubisoft said a similar thing regarding the Xbox 1 and Wii:

Fabrice Cuny (Ubisoft): "Overall the Wii is more powerful than an Xbox, even if the Xbox can do some stuff that the Wii can't. But remember the Wii is more focused on its unique gameplay using the Wii controller and not on power. We can expect a game as beautiful as what we used to see on Xbox."

 The Xbox can do stuff that the Wii can't. (Shaders, ie Riddick)

[QUOTE="88Ghost89"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

Berserker_2

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

It's hard to believe, but Riddick really looks that good on Xbox 1. That isn't the best looking pic, either. There are bright levels (white) that look amazing.  I can't find any pics of the bright levels, though.

[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="Keibo"]

ok read this.

Or for the lazier posters here's an excerpt of the interview

IGN: Graphically speaking, what changes were made when going from version to version? Is Scarface a direct port of either the Xbox version or the PS2? What was added/removed when bringing the game over on a graphical standpoint?

Thomas: We've overhauled the graphics engine to get the most out of the Wii. In a lot of ways the Wii edition of Scarface visually outperforms the PS2 and Xbox versions.

Berserker_2

I'm not saying that scarface was a graphical achievement but still

This pretty much ends the thread, he said "in a-lot of ways", so that means the Wii is generally more powerful than the Xbox as was confirmed by IGN a long time ago.

"in a-lot of ways" means that it doesn't support shaders. If he said "in every way", it would have realtime shadows and normal mapping.

Ubisoft said a similar thing regarding the Xbox 1 and Wii:

Fabrice Cuny (Ubisoft): "Overall the Wii is more powerful than an Xbox, even if the Xbox can do some stuff that the Wii can't. But remember the Wii is more focused on its unique gameplay using the Wii controller and not on power. We can expect a game as beautiful as what we used to see on Xbox."

 The Xbox can do stuff that the Wii can't. (Shaders, ie Riddick)

your missing the point, it's proving that the Wii is generally more powerful than Xbox which is what this thread was about.

dude, your comparing an entire system because one game looks good.

What causes a game to look good?, time and skills, so if you give a good developer enough time they can make a great looking game. The Wii is what? 5 months old.

cobrax80

[QUOTE="PelekotansDream"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

cobrax80

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

tell me? what year was the Xbox released and what year did this game come out?

dude, your comparing an entire system because one game looks good.

What causes a game to look good?, time and skills, so if you give a good developer enough time they can make a great looking game. The Wii is what? 5 months old.

I could post pics of other games, but that's not the point. Riddick is just an example of the technology in Xbox 1. Also, Riddick is 3 years old. If the Wii supported shaders, one of the Wii games would look this good. Instead, they look atrocious. 

[QUOTE="cobrax80"]dude, your comparing an entire system because one game looks good.

What causes a game to look good?, time and skills, so if you give a good developer enough time they can make a great looking game. The Wii is what? 5 months old.

PelekotansDream

No, the Wii is similar but it's still new hardware, they have been developing Wii chips for 5 years, why did it take them that long if it's the same as gamecube?

[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="PelekotansDream"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="y2kzorak"][QUOTE="JustAGamer01"]

When will u people get it? the wii doenst use the same chips as the cube everything is new its not overclocked either, sh*t... its been proven that is way more powerful than the cube...

Berserker_2

http://journal.pcvsconsole.com/?thread=16433

And while I'm at it...

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=38689

There aren't a whole lot of technical people in these forums, or at least technical people who know what they're talking about. If you're looking for some ammunition for (or against) Nintendo's consoles, I suggest you read these other forum threads in their entirety.

If you're too lazy to read, here's a summary: Nintendo's consoles aren't as weak as you want to think they are.

Has any Wii game looked like this?

tell me? what year was the Xbox released and what year did this game come out?

dude, your comparing an entire system because one game looks good.

What causes a game to look good?, time and skills, so if you give a good developer enough time they can make a great looking game. The Wii is what? 5 months old.

I could post pics of other games, but that's not the point. Riddick is just an example of the technology in Xbox 1. Also, Riddick is 3 years old. If the Wii supported shaders, one of the Wii games would look this good. Instead, they look atrocious. 

it came out in 2004 right, that is 3 years after Xbox1, so look at games that come out on Wii in 2009, and make this thread again.

[QUOTE="cobrax80"]dude, your comparing an entire system because one game looks good.

What causes a game to look good?, time and skills, so if you give a good developer enough time they can make a great looking game. The Wii is what? 5 months old.

PelekotansDream

"Wii is similar"

Bingo! They should already be familiar and able to take advantage then.

Nintendo needs to release Wii's specs.miss_kitt3n