It's the annual Xbox Appreciation day!! SO lets kick it off with Colin's Last Stand

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#51 Bread_or_Decide
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@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

PS4 owners don't want to talk any more about which platform plays multiplats the best. That discussion doesn't bode well for them.

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@Pedro said:
@Shewgenja said:
@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

You really do think there's a lot of you, huh?

You really do think that millions of Xbox owners are not a lot huh?

It's not 2004 any more. HD games have huge budgets. The 30 or so million of you would be enough back then but you cannot and do not support AAA development in 2018. It's a fact. If it wasn't, you'd have third party exclusives out the yin yang like everyone else. That might be a hard pill to swallow, but there it is.

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@hrt_rulz01: This place has become a broken record. It is literally an anti Xbox forum. Everyday we get bashing threads by people with no vested interest in the Xbox to begin with.

Stop lying. My main console of choice last gen was 360, and now Xbox has become a tire fire. They sank all of their good will in one generation, and now they're counting on guys like you to take up arms for them to defend the ashes. If everyone is hard on MS, it's because they made the worst moves this gen, and this is the cultivation of it.

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#54  Edited By Shewgenja
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

PS4 owners don't want to talk any more about which platform plays multiplats the best. That discussion doesn't bode well for them.

Here's one for ya. The platform that doesn't make a morality play out of not being able to play with people on other online services because there are plenty of gamers on at any given time to play a game with. Bu-bu-bu Sony is so anticonsumer. Find someone elses coattails to ride on.

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@Pedro said:
@daredevils2k said:
@Pedro said:
@daredevils2k said:
@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

why should i own one, when my 1080ti plays all of the xb1x games way better. :)

I don't see a reason to own the piece of shit PSVR but you don't see my creating threads bitching about it everyday or every week. :)

Well at least the piece of shit PSVR has games, something that the Waste of shit XB1x doesnt' have.

LMAO. That's your response? Not only is it false it has NO relation to my response and enforces my initial post. Good job.

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@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

Well yeah. They can't find a reason to buy one.

Are they obligated to find a reason to own one?

@Shewgenja said:
@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

You really do think there's a lot of you, huh?

You really do think that millions of Xbox owners are not a lot huh?

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@Pedro: I own a Xbox and its becoming a problem. They better announce something this year at E3.

Then sell the system and get something that is not a problem. This is gaming. We play for entertainment. If system A is not working for you find an alternative. This isn't a cellphone contract.

NP pedro, I'm just glad that you're one of the lemmings who bends over for MS with no vaseline :)

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@iambatman7986: So true.

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@Pedro: Are they obligated? Are you obligated to eating food? Cause you can just eat your own shit. What kind of question is that?

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#58 Pedro
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@Pedro: Are they obligated? Are you obligated to eating food? Cause you can just eat your own shit. What kind of question is that?

Its a very simple question. The people who don't own the system complain and whine about the system significantly/exclusively more than the people that own it. Your reasoning is "Well yeah. They can't find a reason to buy one." As I have said before are they obligated to find a reason to own one? Because if they are not why are they fussing about a system in which you have stated they can't find a reason to own one? But instead you responded with the above as if that makes any sense whatsoever.

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#59 Ant_17
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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: Are they obligated? Are you obligated to eating food? Cause you can just eat your own shit. What kind of question is that?

Its a very simple question. The people who don't own the system complain and whine about the system significantly/exclusively more than the people that own it. Your reasoning is "Well yeah. They can't find a reason to buy one." As I have said before are they obligated to find a reason to own one? Because if they are not why are they fussing about a system in which you have stated they can't find a reason to own one? But instead you responded with the above as if that makes any sense whatsoever.

Yes, they should be obligated to find a reason, you dense moron.

Do you go and buy a car that sells the tires separetly?

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@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: Are they obligated? Are you obligated to eating food? Cause you can just eat your own shit. What kind of question is that?

Its a very simple question. The people who don't own the system complain and whine about the system significantly/exclusively more than the people that own it. Your reasoning is "Well yeah. They can't find a reason to buy one." As I have said before are they obligated to find a reason to own one? Because if they are not why are they fussing about a system in which you have stated they can't find a reason to own one? But instead you responded with the above as if that makes any sense whatsoever.

Yes, they should be obligated to find a reason, you dense moron.

Do you go and buy a car that sells the tires separetly?

LOL. So you immediately resorted to insults to hide the absurdity of your response. LOL. I would suggest thinking before typing because I don't believe you are actually critically thinking at the moment. Because your last question is equally lacking in thought.

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#61 Ant_17
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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:

Its a very simple question. The people who don't own the system complain and whine about the system significantly/exclusively more than the people that own it. Your reasoning is "Well yeah. They can't find a reason to buy one." As I have said before are they obligated to find a reason to own one? Because if they are not why are they fussing about a system in which you have stated they can't find a reason to own one? But instead you responded with the above as if that makes any sense whatsoever.

Yes, they should be obligated to find a reason, you dense moron.

Do you go and buy a car that sells the tires separetly?

LOL. So you immediately resorted to insults to hide the absurdity of your response. LOL. I would suggest thinking before typing because I don't believe you are actually critically thinking at the moment. Because your last question is equally lacking in thought.

And you resorting into diverting.

Fact - people can't find a reason to own a Bone.

Refute me.

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#62 Pedro
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@Ant_17 said:

And you resorting into diverting.

Fact - people can't find a reason to own a Bone.

Refute me.

Fact - people have found a reason to own a Xbox thus the reason there a millions sold.

Refute me.

Context is a beautiful thing, and you are actually resorting to diverting. You are trying to argue that PS4 owners are obligated to find a reason to own a Xbox thus the reason the state of the Xbox is a bigger problem for PS4 owners than Xbox owners.

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#63  Edited By Ant_17
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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

And you resorting into diverting.

Fact - people can't find a reason to own a Bone.

Refute me.

Fact - people have found a reason to own a Xbox thus the reason there a millions sold.

Refute me.

Context is a beautiful thing, and you are actually resorting to diverting. You are trying to argue that PS4 owners are obligated to find a reason to own a Xbox thus the reason the state of the Xbox is a bigger problem for PS4 owners than Xbox owners.

Were did i even mention the PS4?

Why do you think i'm talking about the PS4?

I could be talking about the Switch?

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@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

And you resorting into diverting.

Fact - people can't find a reason to own a Bone.

Refute me.

Fact - people have found a reason to own a Xbox thus the reason there a millions sold.

Refute me.

Context is a beautiful thing, and you are actually resorting to diverting. You are trying to argue that PS4 owners are obligated to find a reason to own a Xbox thus the reason the state of the Xbox is a bigger problem for PS4 owners than Xbox owners.

Were did i even mention the PS4?

Why do you think i'm talking about the PS4?

I could be talking about the Switch?

You should keep track of what you were responding to and the order of the response. None of what I have stated would be a surprise to you nor would it leave you baffled.

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#65 Ant_17
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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

Were did i even mention the PS4?

Why do you think i'm talking about the PS4?

I could be talking about the Switch?

You should keep track of what you were responding to and the order of the response. None of what I have stated would be a surprise to you nor would it leave you baffled.

"They have found a reason to buy a Bone and it has sold vaguely some millions"

And what is that reason?

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#66 Pedro
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@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

Were did i even mention the PS4?

Why do you think i'm talking about the PS4?

I could be talking about the Switch?

You should keep track of what you were responding to and the order of the response. None of what I have stated would be a surprise to you nor would it leave you baffled.

"They have found a reason to buy a Bone and it has sold vaguely some millions"

And what is that reason?

What? Collect your thoughts man. You are all over the place. I don't even think you know what you are trying to say.

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#67  Edited By Ant_17
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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

Were did i even mention the PS4?

Why do you think i'm talking about the PS4?

I could be talking about the Switch?

You should keep track of what you were responding to and the order of the response. None of what I have stated would be a surprise to you nor would it leave you baffled.

"They have found a reason to buy a Bone and it has sold vaguely some millions"

And what is that reason?

What? Collect your thoughts man. You are all over the place. I don't even think you know what you are trying to say.

What is the reason.

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@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:

What? Collect your thoughts man. You are all over the place. I don't even think you know what you are trying to say.

What is the reason.

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#69 Ant_17
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@Pedro: There is no reason to buy a Bone.

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@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: There is no reason to buy a Bone.

For you that is correct but millions disagree. None of this relates to what you initially responded to which is "The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?".

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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: There is no reason to buy a Bone.

For you that is correct but millions disagree. None of this relates to what you initially responded to which is "The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?".

So it is correct for me, but not the other people that want a Bone and can't find a reason to waste money on it?

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#72 Pedro
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@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: There is no reason to buy a Bone.

For you that is correct but millions disagree. None of this relates to what you initially responded to which is "The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?".

So it is correct for me, but not the other people that want a Bone and can't find a reason to waste money on it?

That was not the initial discussion. I cannot debate over someone's preferences nor can I dictate it. Thus the reason I re-introduce the seed of this discourse to which you have intentionally deviated from. :)

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#73  Edited By Ant_17
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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:

For you that is correct but millions disagree. None of this relates to what you initially responded to which is "The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?".

So it is correct for me, but not the other people that want a Bone and can't find a reason to waste money on it?

That was not the initial discussion. I cannot debate over someone's preferences nor can I dictate it. Thus the reason I re-introduce the seed of this discourse to which you have intentionally deviated from. :)

Yes, the initail was saying they are not obligated to find a reason, which i'm sure MS would like that and they just buy their stupid 500 bucksretron 5.

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#74 Pedro
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@Ant_17 said:

Yes, the initail was saying they are not obligated to find a reason, which i'm sure MS would like that and they just buy their stupid 500 retron 5.

So, in other words I was right all this time.

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@Pedro said:
@Ant_17 said:

Yes, the initail was saying they are not obligated to find a reason, which i'm sure MS would like that and they just buy their stupid 500 retron 5.

So, in other words I was right all this time.

Well, that is stupid.

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@daredevils2k said:
@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

why should i own one, when my 1080ti plays all of the xb1x games way better. :)

@Ant_17 said:
@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

Well yeah. They can't find a reason to buy one.

The point is you guys still talk about its problems a lot. Are you saying you want to like Xbox? That you want a reason to buy one? I don't fixate on something I don't want. And in reality, what better reason does one need for owning anything but I want to fvckin own it? Who are you beholden to? Who must you justify what you own to?

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@cainetao11: Well, i have 1. How do you think i play Forza? My laptop can't run it.

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#78 cainetao11
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@davillain- said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Oh look, our daily Xbox thread that we've seen a million times before. Yawn.

I never seen this kind of thread before.

But Colin isn't wrong if you know what he's bringing up to.

Wait, you're telling us you have never seen a thread about Xbox having a games problem before? I get it, not with a Colin video but really? This subject hasn't been beaten below a dead horse's corpse on SW? Seriously?

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@cainetao11: Err I been dating too many woman's over the weekend friend, so I'm kinda off on the Xbox threads here XD

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#80  Edited By cainetao11
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@Pedro said:
@daredevils2k said:
@Pedro said:

The problem seem to be bigger for the people that doesn't own an Xbox. Rather strange isn't?

why should i own one, when my 1080ti plays all of the xb1x games way better. :)

I don't see a reason to own the piece of shit PSVR but you don't see my creating threads bitching about it everyday or every week. :)

Exactly. I have tried VR and its cool but Im not interested in owning it now. I don't spend my time at SW bashing it. There are clear differences in some people's behavior. When I'm wrong I try to admit it; when I don't want something I may tease with tales of ballbagia comments now and again but it isn't the through line of my posts on SW. Many of you will never be happy with Xbox until it is an exact carbon copy of PS or doesn't exist.

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@Ant_17 said:

@cainetao11: Well, i have 1. How do you think i play Forza? My laptop can't run it.

I don't spend any energy thinking about what you play or what you play on.

@davillain- said:

@cainetao11: Err I been dating too many woman's over the weekend friend, so I'm kinda off on the Xbox threads here XD

Well all I can say is be safe my friend.

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#82 Ant_17
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@cainetao11: That's cruel man.

My point is i want to like the Bone, but it's not giving much to work with.

It has a stupid name, stupid look, stupid logo, stupid UI, stupid new UI, stupid newer UI, stupid games, stupid old games, stupid older games, stupid sound for achievements, stupid sound for other achievements and stupid AA batteries.

I like Forza and how the controller rumbles when you shoot guns in Dead Rising 3.

2 things i like VS 1 billion things i don't like a bout the Bone.

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#83  Edited By cainetao11
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@Ant_17: This is just an opinion, but if the deck was that stacked and i owned the product anyway? The only thing stupid would be me for not cutting my losses so to say.

So much of your "stupid" list is subjective non sense. The sound achievements make? Really? Trophies have a better sound? LOL the name? Oh god how can live with it? Drama queen much? Stupid look? I don't spend time staring at the physical console but it's better looking then my triple square cheeseburger Imo.

The UI is something i lol at from people. Makes me agree with Bill Maher, the US is collectively stupid if the UI is so difficult for them. But to each their own. I share none of your issues and i don't even play racers LOL ?

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#84  Edited By Ant_17
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@cainetao11: Yes, it is subjective, but more people agree with my opinion.

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The days go by and Xbox is still a flop.

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#86 Pedro
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@Shewgenja said:

It's not 2004 any more. HD games have huge budgets. The 30 or so million of you would be enough back then but you cannot and do not support AAA development in 2018. It's a fact. If it wasn't, you'd have third party exclusives out the yin yang like everyone else. That might be a hard pill to swallow, but there it is.

Firstly you are drowning so you need to divert from the original point. Secondly there are AAA games for the system. Don't create your own facts and don't be angry because your initial logic fail.

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@Pedro said:
@Shewgenja said:

It's not 2004 any more. HD games have huge budgets. The 30 or so million of you would be enough back then but you cannot and do not support AAA development in 2018. It's a fact. If it wasn't, you'd have third party exclusives out the yin yang like everyone else. That might be a hard pill to swallow, but there it is.

Firstly you are drowning so you need to divert from the original point. Secondly there are AAA games for the system. Don't create your own facts and don't be angry because your initial logic fail.

LawyerBone. Read the fine print for enjoyment and satisfaction! (tm)

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NP pedro, I'm just glad that you're one of the lemmings who bends over for MS with no vaseline :)

LOL. Only someone that has experience with the above can come up with such nonsense. You did not need to share your private moments you have with Sony. Projection is a sad thing. :)

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#89 Pedro
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@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: There is no reason to buy a Bone.

@Ant_17 said:

@cainetao11: Well, i have 1. How do you think i play Forza? My laptop can't run it.

Self ownage approved. Now would be a good time to hide.

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#90 Pedro
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@Shewgenja said:

LawyerBone. Read the fine print for enjoyment and satisfaction! (tm)

Poor you. Falling apart when your logic destroys you.

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#91 Shewgenja
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@Pedro said:
@Shewgenja said:

LawyerBone. Read the fine print for enjoyment and satisfaction! (tm)

Poor you. Falling apart when your logic destroys you.

Nothing destroyed me. Your first party doesn't even make exclusives for the platform. You are objectively off the reservation at this point. What I was saying was very clear and what's sad about it is, the PS4 has been plucking cherries like the Titanfall franchise from the XBone all generation long because the install base isn't moving the needle for publishers but you want more evidence of the obvious.

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#92 Pedro
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@Shewgenja said:

Nothing destroyed me. Your first party doesn't even make exclusives for the platform. You are objectively off the reservation at this point. What I was saying was very clear and what's sad about it is, the PS4 has been plucking cherries like the Titanfall franchise from the XBone all generation long because the install base isn't moving the needle for publishers but you want more evidence of the obvious.

Here is where you went wrong. "Your first party". LMAO. Its so sad that people like you are so attached to companies that you think others are equally foolish like yourself. "Your first party". LMAO. You are talking to a person who is in favor of every game being multiplatform and is using Titanfall coming to the PS4 as something I would be upset about.

None of this negates the counter point that slammed dunk your initial response. :)

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#93 Shewgenja
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@Pedro said:
@Shewgenja said:

Nothing destroyed me. Your first party doesn't even make exclusives for the platform. You are objectively off the reservation at this point. What I was saying was very clear and what's sad about it is, the PS4 has been plucking cherries like the Titanfall franchise from the XBone all generation long because the install base isn't moving the needle for publishers but you want more evidence of the obvious.

Here is where you went wrong. "Your first party". LMAO. Its so sad that people like you are so attached to companies that you think others are equally foolish like yourself. "Your first party". LMAO. You are talking to a person who is in favor of every game being multiplatform and is using Titanfall coming to the PS4 as something I would be upset about.

None of this negates the counter point that slammed dunk your initial response. :)

All games being multiplatform has been an XBox fanboy position dating back to before the great TGS blowout of DMC going to the 360. Come on man.

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#94 hrt_rulz01
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@cainetao11: Lol exactly. It's ridiculous.

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#95  Edited By ni6htmare01
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@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: There is no reason to buy a Bone.

Yes there is a reason to buy Xbox one.. is to play retro games in 4K lol

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#96 Pedro
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@Shewgenja said:

All games being multiplatform has been an XBox fanboy position dating back to before the great TGS blowout of DMC going to the 360. Come on man.

LOL. Your ignorance of me is golden. You are speaking to someone who has been a fan of multiplatform games and the merging of consoles into one system since the PS2 era. The only people who think this is bad are genuine loyalist like yourself that so aligned with company that you are simply unable to think or conceive of ideas outside that realm. Besides, none of this negates the fact that you were owned and you tried to deviate from the initial argument and failed.

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#97 Shewgenja
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@Pedro said:
@Shewgenja said:

All games being multiplatform has been an XBox fanboy position dating back to before the great TGS blowout of DMC going to the 360. Come on man.

LOL. Your ignorance of me is golden. You are speaking to someone who has been a fan of multiplatform games and the merging of consoles into one system since the PS2 era. The only people who think this is bad are genuine loyalist like yourself that so aligned with company that you are simply unable to think or conceive of ideas outside that realm. Besides, none of this negates the fact that you were owned and you tried to deviate from the initial argument and failed.

That's another argument for another day, but if you think that platform holders will not differentiate their machines from each other by leveraging developers that are close to the hardware and/or network platform, you are naive at best.

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#98 Ant_17
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@ni6htmare01 said:
@Ant_17 said:

@Pedro: There is no reason to buy a Bone.

Yes there is a reason to buy Xbox one.. is to play retro games in 4K lol

Lol, fair enough.

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#99  Edited By Pedro
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@Shewgenja said:

That's another argument for another day, but if you think that platform holders will not differentiate their machines from each other by leveraging developers that are close to the hardware and/or network platform, you are naive at best.

Yes because hardware variations between consoles are so vast and unique. Soon you will tell me that they have to unlock the systems true potential and other nonsense. The fact of the matter is that both Sony and MS make money from software sales not from hardware. It would benefit both companies to delegate that hardware in the same manner as phones. Maintain the platform but delegate the hardware. But that is too farsighted for the fanboys at heart. ;)

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#100  Edited By cainetao11
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@Ant_17: And that means what? That you need others validation in your life? I won't apologize for having a backbone. It all comes down to what each individual wants and likes. Pointing out others opinions proves nothing but you need others' approval.