I've paid 50.00 a year for live for five years now...why do I not feel cheated?

Ask a lot of Xbox gamers about Gold and they will tell you that they "need" to pay for it. foxhound_fox

Read my post again. I didn't say a fee wasn't needed, I said the servicice per se has never been a "need", so saying "it is completely unnecessary" is just being redundant.

[QUOTE="loftus42"]Hundreds of thousands of servers? Really? I doubt Steam has that many servers. I would say hundreds, maybe 1 thousand. No more.

foxhound_fox

Wow $250 on just live, i personally would feel very cheated, especially since most of the games i play online are mutli plats. I would always think thats atleast 5 games i could have bought, or even an entire new console.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

shutdown_202

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]The 360 community is a joke.Toriko42

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Wow $250 on just live, i personally would feel very cheated, especially since most of the games i play online are mutli plats. I would always think thats atleast 5 games i could have bought, or even an entire new console.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

WhyuStillAlive

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Wow $250 on just live, i personally would feel very cheated, especially since most of the games i play online are mutli plats. I would always think thats atleast 5 games i could have bought, or even an entire new console.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

You should, since you launch 360 cost more than a launch Ps3 :lol:

loftus42

400+ 5 years of live = 650 vs the 600 dollar PS3...

Wow $250 on just live, i personally would feel very cheated, especially since most of the games i play online are mutli plats. I would always think thats atleast 5 games i could have bought, or even an entire new console.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

shutdown_202

[QUOTE="loftus42"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

You should, since you launch 360 cost more than a launch Ps3 :lol:

400+ 5 years of live = 650 vs the 600 dollar PS3...

[QUOTE="loftus42"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

You should, since you launch 360 cost more than a launch Ps3 :lol:

Espada12

400+ 5 years of live = 650 vs the 600 dollar PS3...

[QUOTE="loftus42"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

You should, since you launch 360 cost more than a launch Ps3 :lol:

400+ 5 years of live = 650 vs the 600 dollar PS3...

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="loftus42"]just wrong on so many points. Like I said before, I don't mind fanboys saying they don't like to pay for on-line play, just keep things true. Stop taking a stand on one thing and spouting false information on the other. $400 compared to $600? how is that more expensive? If wer going to take a stand on one thing make sure your standing on solid ground, because in my book there are a few other things you need to take a stand on first. Like the truth.-Snooze-

400+ 5 years of live = 650 vs the 600 dollar PS3...

I knew this argument would come up, But the fact that the online system is part of the console it should be tacked on to its price.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="loftus42"]just wrong on so many points. Like I said before, I don't mind fanboys saying they don't like to pay for on-line play, just keep things true. Stop taking a stand on one thing and spouting false information on the other. $400 compared to $600? how is that more expensive? If wer going to take a stand on one thing make sure your standing on solid ground, because in my book there are a few other things you need to take a stand on first. Like the truth.loftus42

400+ 5 years of live = 650 vs the 600 dollar PS3...

heh it's SW, I don't mind.. I do it all the time. I tend to admit when I'm wrong as well ( but I try not to be ) :P

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]The 360 community is a joke.GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"] then don't buy the dlc.. There is two options either the devs put things like "operation anchorage" in the game itself, or charge money for it. when running a business there is no point in wasting time and money to give people free content. Yes i agree that some dlc, like resi 5's versus mode is a scam, but things like shivering isles, knothole island and TLAD are not rip offs. They are hours of extra gameplay, therefore worth money.

foxhound_fox

Xbox Live is an amazing online service and well worth the money since it doesn't piss me off like PSN tends to.

theSADmafioso

plus psn is so dry and life less

Truthfully (the way I see it at least), b/c 50 bucks per year is chump change unless you're a 12 year old.

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Wow $250 on just live, i personally would feel very cheated, especially since most of the games i play online are mutli plats. I would always think thats atleast 5 games i could have bought, or even an entire new console.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

WhyuStillAlive

I actually meant he could have bought a new console such as the wii, not another 360.

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Wow $250 on just live, i personally would feel very cheated, especially since most of the games i play online are mutli plats. I would always think thats atleast 5 games i could have bought, or even an entire new console.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

cooper2003

Like fox is arguing, your one of those people who thinks he needs to pay so you continue doing so. Your also trying to make yourself feel better, justifying your purchase by saying people pay $15 a month for WoW. Anyway like you said, I too would like to play against other people online. Thats why i play on my PS3 and PC.

I have just renewed my Live, 3 years now, and at £28.99, I have never felt cheated

I mainly play on it due to a close group of friends (College and other)

we regularly play the same games and are always in party chat

I would say the community as a whole on live (and PSN) isn't very good, full of stupidly hostile people that get so overworked over a game,

but if you have a group of friends on either, it can be great, but if my friends weren't on it, I wouldn't be so willing to shell out

I have just renewed my Live, 3 years now, and at £28.99, I have never felt cheated

I mainly play on it due to a close group of friends (College and other)

we regularly play the same games and are always in party chat

I would say the community as a whole on live (and PSN) isn't very good, full of stupidly hostile people that get so overworked over a game,

but if you have a group of friends on either, it can be great, but if my friends weren't on it, I wouldn't be so willing to shell out

WWIAB

A post I made in a similar thread:

I look at it like this...

The principle of paying for P2P :|. You essentially pay to "unlock" features already on the game disc you bought. Hopefully they can restructure it in a way to validate its worth for everyone (like providing dedicated servers for at least 1st party games for Gold members). Now that $50 is going toward another game :).

Personally, I haven't had Live in over a year. There aren't any games on 360 that I wanna play online right now and the foreseeable future. Gears 1 was the only game I played a crap load of...but I've moved on, an ex-Gearhead. This is one of the key reasons I'm getting RE5 on PS3.

[QUOTE="WWIAB"]

I have just renewed my Live, 3 years now, and at £28.99, I have never felt cheated

I mainly play on it due to a close group of friends (College and other)

we regularly play the same games and are always in party chat

I would say the community as a whole on live (and PSN) isn't very good, full of stupidly hostile people that get so overworked over a game,

but if you have a group of friends on either, it can be great, but if my friends weren't on it, I wouldn't be so willing to shell out

yoyo462001

lol, PSN is far from dead. Members are very active in online games, use mics, and even use Home. Your number of friends can make things seem different than what they are. As far as party system goes, that's an awseome feature that PSN needs. But don't forget XBL just got that last November.

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="WWIAB"]

I have just renewed my Live, 3 years now, and at £28.99, I have never felt cheated

I mainly play on it due to a close group of friends (College and other)

we regularly play the same games and are always in party chat

I would say the community as a whole on live (and PSN) isn't very good, full of stupidly hostile people that get so overworked over a game,

but if you have a group of friends on either, it can be great, but if my friends weren't on it, I wouldn't be so willing to shell out

Episode_Eve

lol, PSN is far from dead. Members are very active in online games, use mics, and even use Home. Your number of friends can make things seem different than what they are. As far as party system goes, that's an awseome feature that PSN needs. But don't forget XBL just got that last November.

Because you love to give Microsoft your money :D

"250$ Dollaz thats a nu 360!"

Value is subjective. I guarentee you if he wasn't paying that $50 a year towards Live it would probably have went on something else within a matter of days.

I'll pay for it, I can afford it, I don't care for the principle I just care for the experience.

I know it's rhetorical, but here goes-

Because no matter how many frothing haters shriek "YOU'RE A TOOL!!!1" or "YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR BEING RIPPED OFF!!1", you feel you're getting your money's worth, and that's what counts. Why anyone honestly expects someone else to care about their opinion on how other people spend four dollars a month is laughable.

because you don't own enough single player games?

I'd rather have a large catalog of singleplayer games than like 5 multi games though.. I've already been a PC gamer who played the same 5 games for 5 yrs... I'm done

Because you found value in it and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

No matter how many people come into this thread saying "you've been ripped off/cheated/milked/whatever", the fact of the matter remains that you found enough Value in Xbox Live to not only pay for it, but to not feel ripped off by doing so. Ignore the haters man. As far as I'm concerned, you shouldn't feel cheated in the slightest.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

shutdown_202

Forget the community. If I can play online at no extra cost, that's fine by me.

You don't feel cheated because you probably don't have your own bills to pay. Stuff like that adds up.Zoso-8

[QUOTE="cooper2003"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Wow $250 on just live, i personally would feel very cheated, especially since most of the games i play online are mutli plats. I would always think thats atleast 5 games i could have bought, or even an entire new console.

Same thing happens to me when i buy a controller. I always think its money i could've spent on a game, so i always put it off.

Like fox is arguing, your one of those people who thinks he needs to pay so you continue doing so. Your also trying to make yourself feel better, justifying your purchase by saying people pay $15 a month for WoW. Anyway like you said, I too would like to play against other people online. Thats why i play on my PS3 and PC.

So you enjoy getting cussed out by little kids and big macho men who still live with their parents? Don't get me wrong I pay for it too but the reason I do is because my friend only has a 360. If he had a gaming PC, I would drop that XBL fee and never miss it.channtheman1

party system. make it so that the only people able to talk to you are the people in your party. same with hear you. no more annoying little kids or dumb***es that think they're big and bad cause you not in front of them.

I agree.

Why am I not outraged. Why do I not hate Microsoft? Why do I own a PS3 and still make all of my DLC purchases on my 360?

THE COMMUNITY.

shsonline

So the community would be there without the fee?

I still don't see any reason to pay for online gaming.

$250 wow...., 50 a year doesn't seem like much but after 5 years you paid enough to pay for another 360 with change leftover.

If you really want to save some money dont buy games at all. See how much money you save then.

Because you love to give Microsoft your money :D

glenn2709