Iwata is so out of touch. Â He's just trying to damage control everything now.Â
Iwata:WiiU Price Not the Problem
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I doubt this will happen any time soon, if ever. They would have to release a new, larger form factor to accommodate a hard drive. It would have to be at least twice as big as the current model.i really want a wiiu. but im delaying the buy until they release at least a 150gb model. 32gb is tooo low also the system updates take about 7gb on the wiiu. and im a big fan of downloadable arcade games and classics.
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Price wouldn't be an issue if the console had game support, but since it doesn't price is an issue. The Wii-U needs a price cut quickly and games a.s.a.p., or it will be lost once the PS4 and the XBone come out.
Price is a huge issue. The products are un-affordable because they are over-valued. They have great stuff, but have crazy pricing strategies. No value there as a consumer.
I agree he is bad for Nintendo. They need someone aggressive and hungry like Kaz.If they're swapping leaders, make sure he/she isn't a complete dictator like Yamauchi. I don't care how Nintendo was "so much better" under him, or the fact that he hired folks like Miyamoto, that guy did quite a bit of damage to Nintendo before Iwata got on board.[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="mojito1988"]
This. I loathe this guy with a passion. (My disslike for this guy is getting a bit unhealthy to be honest.)
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-He had strict limits on how many games third parties can publish on their systems
-He backed third party censorship in the NES/SNES era (hey, after re-allowing Smash streams at Evo 2013, people still got Nintendo for doing what they did despite being brief, so why can't I bring this up?)
-He blew off Sony for a deal they've been working on for years
Besides that, it's also going to take more than Iwata leaving to fix things at Nintendo. Too many things need to be re-evaluated and similar policies can still run even if you have different people running the place.
The Sony comment. If you are referring to the disc format stuff. We should be thankful. That's what spawned the PS1. Sony saying screw you and building their own system since Nintendo backed out of a deal.
To be fair the price is the issue.
You can get a PS3 for twice less and it has a much bigger game library and blu-ray playback.
Many Wii U games are also priced too highly.
It seems Nintendo value their brand too highly so it's no wonder they aren't getting the success they want.
At a lower price, this system would be an excellent choice for families with kids.
And the "hardcore gamer" are simply waiting for more, high-quality games and looking at other systems.
I really hope that Iwata sticks around, honestly. I really appreciate how Nintendo is still a company that puts quality first and is willing to take risks. I love their stance on DRM, their focus on offline play, and their commitment to affordability. I'm not necessarily opposed to a new CEO, but if all of that changes, I'm probably going to be done with console gaming.PurpleMan5000They arent putting quality first and the wii u isnt affordable
[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]I really hope that Iwata sticks around, honestly. I really appreciate how Nintendo is still a company that puts quality first and is willing to take risks. I love their stance on DRM, their focus on offline play, and their commitment to affordability. I'm not necessarily opposed to a new CEO, but if all of that changes, I'm probably going to be done with console gaming.TheKingIAmThey arent putting quality first and the wii u isnt affordable If the Wii U isn't affordable, then what is? A one time payment of $350 is way cheaper than $450 up front with an additional $50 per year.
They arent putting quality first and the wii u isnt affordable If the Wii U isn't affordable, then what is? A one time payment of $350 is way cheaper than $450 up front with an additional $50 per year. For what it is, it shouldn't only cost $50 less than the ps4[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]I really hope that Iwata sticks around, honestly. I really appreciate how Nintendo is still a company that puts quality first and is willing to take risks. I love their stance on DRM, their focus on offline play, and their commitment to affordability. I'm not necessarily opposed to a new CEO, but if all of that changes, I'm probably going to be done with console gaming.PurpleMan5000
[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]If the Wii U isn't affordable, then what is? A one time payment of $350 is way cheaper than $450 up front with an additional $50 per year. For what it is, it shouldn't only cost $50 less than the ps4 It's about $400 less than the PS4, though. Unless you plan on not having any online capabilities in your next-gen system, of course.[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"] They arent putting quality first and the wii u isnt affordable TheKingIAm
[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] If the Wii U isn't affordable, then what is? A one time payment of $350 is way cheaper than $450 up front with an additional $50 per year.PurpleMan5000For what it is, it shouldn't only cost $50 less than the ps4 It's about $400 less than the PS4, though. Unless you plan on not having any online capabilities in your next-gen system, of course. I'm talking about the console itself, I dont need to pay for psn right away
[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] It's about $400 less than the PS4, though. Unless you plan on not having any online capabilities in your next-gen system, of course.PurpleMan5000I'm talking about the console itself, I dont need to pay for psn right away You are going to pay $400 for a console that doesn't even have online play? That sounds like a pretty big ripoff.
I shot this argument to pieces from you the other day. Stop using it.
The system will be very cheap indeed because you're saving money not buying costly games for it. It isn't a real saving.
Sony's online costs $50 because its an extra service worth paying for. You can't lump it with the price of the console any more than you can the extra cost of having more games to buy.
Desperation from your part. Wii U costs only $50 less than a system of the capability of PS4. Think about that.Â
You are going to pay $400 for a console that doesn't even have online play? That sounds like a pretty big ripoff.[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="TheKingIAm"] I'm talking about the console itself, I dont need to pay for psn right awayDocSanchez
I shot this argument to pieces from you the other day. Stop using it.
The system will be very cheap indeed because you're saving money not buying costly games for it. It isn't a real saving.
Sony's online costs $50 because its an extra service worth paying for. You can't lump it with the price of the console any more than you can the extra cost of having more games to buy.
Desperation from your part. Wii U costs only $50 less than a system of the capability of PS4. Think about that.Â
It's only worth paying for because your console is all but worthless if you don't pay for it.[QUOTE="DocSanchez"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] You are going to pay $400 for a console that doesn't even have online play? That sounds like a pretty big ripoff.PurpleMan5000
I shot this argument to pieces from you the other day. Stop using it.
The system will be very cheap indeed because you're saving money not buying costly games for it. It isn't a real saving.
Sony's online costs $50 because its an extra service worth paying for. You can't lump it with the price of the console any more than you can the extra cost of having more games to buy.
Desperation from your part. Wii U costs only $50 less than a system of the capability of PS4. Think about that.Â
It's only worth paying for because your console is all but worthless if you don't pay for it.
Nonsense. You've constructed a pretty poor argument here. PS4 is going to cost more than a wii u because the library will end up being much bigger and the games will cost you. Not an argument. Wii U is worthless. It's not a boon that the online is so paltry it's not worth charging for, and an extra you can choose or not choose to pay for (which despite your protestations you don't have to buy) is not included in the cost of the console any more than buying an extra controller or buying more games.
Basically, Nintendo have messed up the online again, and not having anything worth paying for is not a good thing. As it stands, for the basic cost of your console, the wii u is $50 less. It's a lot less if you take into account all the great games you wont be buying or the extra controllers for all the friends who want to play along with the great games but that sounds like a stupid argument. So stop making it with online.
It's only worth paying for because your console is all but worthless if you don't pay for it.[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="DocSanchez"]
I shot this argument to pieces from you the other day. Stop using it.The system will be very cheap indeed because you're saving money not buying costly games for it. It isn't a real saving.
Sony's online costs $50 because its an extra service worth paying for. You can't lump it with the price of the console any more than you can the extra cost of having more games to buy.
Desperation from your part. Wii U costs only $50 less than a system of the capability of PS4. Think about that.Â
DocSanchez
Nonsense. You've constructed a pretty poor argument here. PS4 is going to cost more than a wii u because the library will end up being much bigger and the games will cost you. Not an argument. Wii U is worthless. It's not a boon that the online is so paltry it's not worth charging for, and an extra you can choose or not choose to pay for (which despite your protestations you don't have to buy) is not included in the cost of the console any more than buying an extra controller or buying more games.
Basically, Nintendo have messed up the online again, and not having anything worth paying for is not a good thing. As it stands, for the basic cost of your console, the wii u is $50 less. It's a lot less if you take into account all the great games you wont be buying or the extra controllers for all the friends who want to play along with the great games but that sounds like a stupid argument. So stop making it with online.
[QUOTE="DocSanchez"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] It's only worth paying for because your console is all but worthless if you don't pay for it.PurpleMan5000
Nonsense. You've constructed a pretty poor argument here. PS4 is going to cost more than a wii u because the library will end up being much bigger and the games will cost you. Not an argument. Wii U is worthless. It's not a boon that the online is so paltry it's not worth charging for, and an extra you can choose or not choose to pay for (which despite your protestations you don't have to buy) is not included in the cost of the console any more than buying an extra controller or buying more games.
Basically, Nintendo have messed up the online again, and not having anything worth paying for is not a good thing. As it stands, for the basic cost of your console, the wii u is $50 less. It's a lot less if you take into account all the great games you wont be buying or the extra controllers for all the friends who want to play along with the great games but that sounds like a stupid argument. So stop making it with online.
Are you honestly, truly, really going to argue about the likely libraries of Ps4 vs wii u?
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The following is not an opinion:
The wii u is getting support from almost none of the major third parties.
The third parties are waiting for more power and the engines for the next gen require this to get the most of them.
More power is coming in the form of PS4 and X1.
Playstation has a long history of being heavy with third party heavy hitters like GTA, unlike Nintendo, who have been relying on the short list of first party releases.
Wii U has had a year's head start and achieved absolutely nothing so far.
None of the above is an opinion.
You are comparing a years old library to a tentative launch library and Wii U still loses. That is an opinion.
Ergo, the library is going to be heavy in PS4's favour. That's my opinion, and if you don't share it, I have some land on mars to sell you. You may be enjoying playing zombii U online. Wow. Just goes to show people can find entertainment in anything, but compared to proper online games, its nothing.
And do you need online for the games? It depends on whether you want online. I find a lot of single player campaigns engaging. I like single player RPG's for example. I play more of them than anything. Witcher 3 and GTA V are my most anticipated games at this present time, and I don't need online for either. But it doesn't change the fact that an optional price, like any optional price, is not a part of the cost of the console. At all. Any more than people are factoring in having to buy extra memory for Wii U and saying it costs the same as PS4.
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One thing we can agree on, most gamers found Wii U the cheapest console ever. They didn't buy one and it therefore cost them nothing.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]No Iwata, the system itself is the problem, the hardware is conceptually flawed.KBFloYd
lol..you think you can do better?
It's not the matter of HE can do it or not, that's always the most idiotic argument ever. "You can't do better it so you can't criticize", give me a fvcking break.That is an opinion, and one that I disagree wholeheartedly with. There are no launch window titles worth purchasing for the PS4, imo. At least the XB1 has Dead Rising. The Wii U will have a very nice selection of quality titles by the end of this year. What is not an opinion, is that you will not be able to play any of your games online on the PS4 unless you pay Sony $50 per year to do that. I will be enjoying online features in ZombiU, Wind Waker, Rayman Legends, and Sonic Lost World, all at no additional cost. If you don't pay for PSN+ at launch, what are you going to play? The Killzone campaign? Does Battlefield 4 even have a campaign?[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="DocSanchez"]
Nonsense. You've constructed a pretty poor argument here. PS4 is going to cost more than a wii u because the library will end up being much bigger and the games will cost you. Not an argument. Wii U is worthless. It's not a boon that the online is so paltry it's not worth charging for, and an extra you can choose or not choose to pay for (which despite your protestations you don't have to buy) is not included in the cost of the console any more than buying an extra controller or buying more games.
Basically, Nintendo have messed up the online again, and not having anything worth paying for is not a good thing. As it stands, for the basic cost of your console, the wii u is $50 less. It's a lot less if you take into account all the great games you wont be buying or the extra controllers for all the friends who want to play along with the great games but that sounds like a stupid argument. So stop making it with online.DocSanchez
Are you honestly, truly, really going to argue about the likely libraries of Ps4 vs wii u?
Â
The following is not an opinion:
The wii u is getting support from almost none of the major third parties.
The third parties are waiting for more power and the engines for the next gen require this to get the most of them.
More power is coming in the form of PS4 and X1.
Playstation has a long history of being heavy with third party heavy hitters like GTA, unlike Nintendo, who have been relying on the short list of first party releases.
Wii U has had a year's head start and achieved absolutely nothing so far.
None of the above is an opinion.
You are comparing a years old library to a tentative launch library and Wii U still loses. That is an opinion.
Ergo, the library is going to be heavy in PS4's favour. That's my opinion, and if you don't share it, I have some land on mars to sell you. You may be enjoying playing zombii U online. Wow. Just goes to show people can find entertainment in anything, but compared to proper online games, its nothing.
And do you need online for the games? It depends on whether you want online. I find a lot of single player campaigns engaging. I like single player RPG's for example. I play more of them than anything. Witcher 3 and GTA V are my most anticipated games at this present time, and I don't need online for either. But it doesn't change the fact that an optional price, like any optional price, is not a part of the cost of the console. At all. Any more than people are factoring in having to buy extra memory for Wii U and saying it costs the same as PS4.
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One thing we can agree on, most gamers found Wii U the cheapest console ever. They didn't buy one and it therefore cost them nothing.
IMO, the only games on the PS4 worth playing are also going to be playable on my PC. Also, I have just started playing ZombiU, but so far it is fantastic. It's very similar to Demon's Souls, only with better gameplay. If you plan on having a digital library, you absolutely should factor in the cost of additional memory. The Wii U will cost you $350-$400 depending on just how much space you opt for. I plan on spending about $90 for 2 TB. That is still much cheaper than a PS4 or Xbox One, considering both consoles are awful purchases if you don't play online games.
Please understand.
The Gamecube has outsold the Wii U by almost twice as much if you compare their first year on the market.
Price is definitely a problem. 350 dollars for a device that belongs in a museum is laughable.
Just let that sink in for a moment. The Nintendo Gamecube is completetly annhilating the Wii u in sales.
Nintendo has positioned the Wii U so it will be in competition against the PS3, PS4, 360 and Xbox One. Good night my sweet prince.
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