Jack Thompson Cites Gamespot, Kotaku, SPOnG, Joystiq In Court Filing

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.DriftMax

Eh, i'm not that mean, but seriously, every game has violence...

Maybe mario should be banned because he teaches children to jump on aminals and other people, to eat mushrooms (ittl make you stronger) and to light things on fire... oh, and to try and use a feather to fly... If you think GTA should be banned (i think there stale.. i dindt buy SA) then you have to support banning mario, taking Boxing out of Wii sports, DEFINATLY stoping metriod (guns) and Zelda (swords, bows) oh, no football either, or wrestling games, that promotes violence too..

Seriouisly.. it's all meritless, and frankly, retarded... But i guess people like to blame somthing for there bad parenting, rather than.. just.. parenting there kids...

IT"S VIDEO GAMES FAULT.. IT"S SPORTS FAULT... IT"S THE BULLY"S FAULT, but it's never because they werent there for there kid when they got bullied...

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

the-very-best

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

What the hell is wrong with being controversial? How do you think companies/singer/tv shows/movies become famous? Do you think we'd know who Paris Hilton is if she didn't do that sex tape? That's just how businesses work. Controversy is the foundation of popularity and there is nothing wrong with providing a shock value to viewers, hence brining entertainment to them.

Why focus on one thing that looks bad about GTA and ignore all the great things about GTA?

exacltly, putting in a sex minigame for the sake of publicity, adding extensive violence in a game to get publicity. Did you just compare rockstar with paris hitlon? I would sincerely hope that you dont want an industry that mirrors hollywood. You just proved my point, they add violence and sexfor controversy, that needs to stop if videogames are really going to be taken seriously as an artform.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

Because it wasn't?

A half-finished game only accessible by hacking the disk that was so unknown that Rockstar denied having made it when it was first discovered counts as being 'included'? Not exactly.

If Rockstar had wanted to include a sex minigame, it would have been in the game, and they would have made a more concerted effort to defend it as part of the game's content. Instead, they recalled the game and removed the offensive content, which couldn't even be accessed without mods or cheat devices. As a result, they incurred tens of millions of dollars in needless expenditures, and hardly made any extra money, since the new copies after the recall didn't have the sex minigame.

And that has nothing to do with the issue of violence, the first thing you brought up.  

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

GTA is an adult game and shouldn't be played by people under 18.  Yeah, I know there are crappy parents that give games like that to minors.  But those same parents also do it for movies.  Yet people don't make a big deal out of hardcore sex and violence in movies, even though too often minors see it.  But trying to censor people who are qualified to play or watch such entertainment is just wrong. 

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included? 

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

LOL! :lol:

What on earth? He's serious!!! You gotta love him. He's funnier than Britney.

kutaragism

every time I see your Brittany avatar i think of G.I jane for some reason. 

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

What the hell is wrong with being controversial? How do you think companies/singer/tv shows/movies become famous? Do you think we'd know who Paris Hilton is if she didn't do that sex tape? That's just how businesses work. Controversy is the foundation of popularity and there is nothing wrong with providing a shock value to viewers, hence brining entertainment to them.

Why focus on one thing that looks bad about GTA and ignore all the great things about GTA?

exacltly, putting in a sex minigame for the sake of publicity, adding extensive violence in a game to get publicity. Did you just compare rockstar with paris hitlon? I would sincerely hope that you dont want an industry that mirrors hollywood. You just proved my point, they add violence and sexfor controversy, that needs to stop if videogames are really going to be taken seriously as an artform.

Hi are you going to ignore my post? Or are you goin to pick and choose what you respond to so you dont look like an idiot.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.kutaragism

Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.sexy_luigi

the bottom line of this Argument is: 

if your with Thompson, you are against Video games, there are many different types of video games everyone has there 

likes and dislikes, but to deney another person one kind of video game just cause you dislike it? is wrong and anyone could

tell you that. 

http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/10/jack_thompson_i.html

all so the fact above aside, Thompson is NOT the person to agree with on this matter, I'm pretty sure he's insane and he acts like he's god when he's not, he's a washed up, dumbass, trigger happy loud mouth lawyer, and should have his licence removed, and be shoved back up where "Brain dead morons" belong

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

What the hell is wrong with being controversial? How do you think companies/singer/tv shows/movies become famous? Do you think we'd know who Paris Hilton is if she didn't do that sex tape? That's just how businesses work. Controversy is the foundation of popularity and there is nothing wrong with providing a shock value to viewers, hence brining entertainment to them.

Why focus on one thing that looks bad about GTA and ignore all the great things about GTA?

exacltly, putting in a sex minigame for the sake of publicity, adding extensive violence in a game to get publicity. Did you just compare rockstar with paris hitlon? I would sincerely hope that you dont want an industry that mirrors hollywood. You just proved my point, they add violence and sexfor controversy, that needs to stop if videogames are really going to be taken seriously as an artform.

exacltly, putting in a sex minigame for the sake of publicity, adding extensive violence in a game to get publicity. Did you just compare rockstar with paris hitlon? I would sincerely hope that you dont want an industry that mirrors hollywood. You just proved my point, they add violence and sexfor controversy, that needs to stop if videogames are really going to be taken seriously as an artform.sexy_luigi

Whether I like it not Paris Hilton brings enjoyment to a whole lot of people (Simple Life, album, tape, etc).

I don't like her but she does bring entertainment to people and she became famous by being contraversial.

GTA did the same. It became famous by being controversial and I see nothing wrong with that but I have received insane levels of enjoyment from playing the GTA series.

I would never rob someone elses source of entertainment just because I don't agree with it. 

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

What the hell is wrong with being controversial? How do you think companies/singer/tv shows/movies become famous? Do you think we'd know who Paris Hilton is if she didn't do that sex tape? That's just how businesses work. Controversy is the foundation of popularity and there is nothing wrong with providing a shock value to viewers, hence brining entertainment to them.

Why focus on one thing that looks bad about GTA and ignore all the great things about GTA?

exacltly, putting in a sex minigame for the sake of publicity, adding extensive violence in a game to get publicity. Did you just compare rockstar with paris hitlon? I would sincerely hope that you dont want an industry that mirrors hollywood. You just proved my point, they add violence and sexfor controversy, that needs to stop if videogames are really going to be taken seriously as an artform.

Yeah, because movies are having a heck of a time trying to convince people of that. :lol: 

:lol: What won't he try?hellsing321

Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.sexy_luigi

A few things...

1)  There's a little thing called the 1st ammendment

2)  They make violent games that get appropriate ratings from the ESRB.  It's not Rockstar or Take-Two's fault for kids playing these violent games.  It is the fault of the parents.

3)  I do agree with what Jack Thompson did for the whole "Hot Coffee" fiasco, but now he is letting it get to his head.  I recall him blaming EA for user-made "nude mods" made for Sims 2.  This guy is unreasonable.

and putting in a hidden sex minigame is such an awesome thing to do :|

rockstar have no one to blame but themselves

sexy_luigi

[QUOTE="kutaragism"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.slothboyadvance

A few things...

1) There's a little thing called the 1st ammendment

2) They make violent games that get appropriate ratings from the ESRB. It's not Rockstar or Take-Two's fault for kids playing these violent games. It is the fault of the parents.

3) I do agree with what Jack Thompson did for the whole "Hot Coffee" fiasco, but now he is letting it get to his head. I recall him blaming EA for user-made "nude mods" made for Sims 2. This guy is unreasonable.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

What the hell is wrong with being controversial? How do you think companies/singer/tv shows/movies become famous? Do you think we'd know who Paris Hilton is if she didn't do that sex tape? That's just how businesses work. Controversy is the foundation of popularity and there is nothing wrong with providing a shock value to viewers, hence brining entertainment to them.

Why focus on one thing that looks bad about GTA and ignore all the great things about GTA?

exacltly, putting in a sex minigame for the sake of publicity, adding extensive violence in a game to get publicity. Did you just compare rockstar with paris hitlon? I would sincerely hope that you dont want an industry that mirrors hollywood. You just proved my point, they add violence and sexfor controversy, that needs to stop if videogames are really going to be taken seriously as an artform.

As I stated in my earlier posts, the violence in the game is necessary, and not added for the sake of controversy. And the sex was not intended to be in the game, was removed from the game when it came up, resulting in major financial damage to Rockstar, and wasn't able to spur any sales, since the sex game was removed from shelves.

As another poster said, stop picking and choosing which posts you respond to if you want to engage in an informed debate.  

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

the-very-best

If you look closer GTA has more than "just" violence going for it.

I'm not going to allow anyone to say that, especially when it's such a well received game worldwide and even the site you're posting on agrees that it is excellent, 9.6/10 three times in a row.

then why was a sex minigame included?

What the hell is wrong with being controversial? How do you think companies/singer/tv shows/movies become famous? Do you think we'd know who Paris Hilton is if she didn't do that sex tape? That's just how businesses work. Controversy is the foundation of popularity and there is nothing wrong with providing a shock value to viewers, hence brining entertainment to them.

Why focus on one thing that looks bad about GTA and ignore all the great things about GTA?

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="kutaragism"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.kutaragism

[QUOTE="kutaragism"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Ok, for the first part, that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. We have our rights to free speech. Be them profane or derogatory, we can say what we wish in public. Second, you're one to talk. A picture of a bald Britney Spears can be linked to rude imagery... Third, people actually LIKE violent shows. My favorite TV show is 24. One of my favorite games is Counter-Strike. Do you realize how big violence and sex is in media? Taking away all that is like taking 3/4 of the ocean. princeofshapeir

I figured outlawing violent thoughts was enough to tip you off I guess. 

Look, I disagree with his stance on video game violence as much as you, but your examples of people and things benefiting from controversy (Saw, Paris Hilton, etc.) actually go to prove that anything sold for "shock value" has a negative impact on society (Saw sucked hardcore and Paris Hilton is a hideous whore...hey, that rhymed). You might as well throw in Ms. Coulter while you're at it. But really, there are redeeming qualities to violent media (e.g., Neither Schindler's List nor Flags of Our Fathers would convey the same message without violence or "shocking" material).Tristam22

I agree, I despise Paris and Saw is no good for me but millions of people worldwide love Paris and millions love Saw.

I'm not going to try and destroy their source of entertainment.

Schindler's List is superb and it is a fine example of a movie that would suck without it's (sometimes overemphasized) levels of violence. 

[QUOTE="kutaragism"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well i hope he does win and take 2 goes out of business along with rockstar, those disgustingly violent games (gta, manhunt) need to stop and we;re not helping by making fun of the guy.princeofshapeir

:roll:Why cant anyone see,games don't kill people,people kill people.People in their right minds who play games don't go phyco...when a kid plays pac-man does that mean it sits in a dark room,popping pills while listening to tecno music.MarchanDooken

Greatest comparison ever.

Well you guys convinced me. You are all right, and I am wrong.sexy_luigi

You don't have to like violence in games but why would you want to eradicate sources of entertainment from other people? 

I don't like country songs...am I going to go and shoot every country singer out there? No. 

[QUOTE="Tristam22"]Look, I disagree with his stance on video game violence as much as you, but your examples of people and things benefiting from controversy (Saw, Paris Hilton, etc.) actually go to prove that anything sold for "shock value" has a negative impact on society (Saw sucked hardcore and Paris Hilton is a hideous whore...hey, that rhymed). You might as well throw in Ms. Coulter while you're at it. But really, there are redeeming qualities to violent media (e.g., Neither Schindler's List nor Flags of Our Fathers would convey the same message without violence or "shocking" material).the-very-best

I agree, I despise Paris and Saw is no good for me but millions of people worldwide love Paris and millions love Saw.

I'm not going to try and destroy their source of entertainment.

Schindler's List is superb and it is a fine example of a movie that would suck without it's (sometimes overemphasized) levels of violence.

Well you guys convinced me. You are all right, and I am wrong.sexy_luigi

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

sexy_luigi

Not only do his suits have no legal merit, but he also seems to think that attacking as many people as he possibly can will somhow help him win his case..cheatymcshifty

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well you guys convinced me. You are all right, and I am wrong.the-very-best

You don't have to like violence in games but why would you want to eradicate sources of entertainment from other people?

I don't like country songs...am I going to go and shoot every country singer out there? No.

Well to be quite honest with you I have GTA SA and loved it. I dont believe in any of the nonsense that Ive said in this thread, i was only trying to stick up for poor tomphson :P 

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]

hey listen. im not against destroying entertainment, and im not against violence in games, im against violence for the sake of violence and free publicity

Runningflame570

Not only do his suits have no legal merit, but he also seems to think that attacking as many people as he possibly can will somhow help him win his case..cheatymcshifty

I think it would better support your arguement if you didn't compare Rockstar to the KKK... :lol: 

I want to go sue this guy for being the biggest moron on Earth. Who wants to do it with me?asdasd

[QUOTE="asdasd"]I want to go sue this guy for being the biggest moron on Earth. Who wants to do it with me?DrinkDuff

[QUOTE="sexy_luigi"]Well you guys convinced me. You are all right, and I am wrong.the-very-best

You don't have to like violence in games but why would you want to eradicate sources of entertainment from other people?

I don't like country songs...am I going to go and shoot every country singer out there? No.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"]Look, I disagree with his stance on video game violence as much as you, but your examples of people and things benefiting from controversy (Saw, Paris Hilton, etc.) actually go to prove that anything sold for "shock value" has a negative impact on society (Saw sucked hardcore and Paris Hilton is a hideous whore...hey, that rhymed). You might as well throw in Ms. Coulter while you're at it. But really, there are redeeming qualities to violent media (e.g., Neither Schindler's List nor Flags of Our Fathers would convey the same message without violence or "shocking" material).Tristam22

I agree, I despise Paris and Saw is no good for me but millions of people worldwide love Paris and millions love Saw.

I'm not going to try and destroy their source of entertainment.

Schindler's List is superb and it is a fine example of a movie that would suck without it's (sometimes overemphasized) levels of violence.

That's your opinion (and I agree with it) but many love Paris, Saw...

Who am I to get rid of their source of entertainment?

Thompson just wants his name in the media. He knows he's fighting a losing battle but he wants to be known as "man's saviour" or whatever since I'm sure he believes video game violence will be the death of everyone.

I love GTA and I'm not some psychopath. I'm beyond sick of people trying to destroy fun and I'm always going to destroy any negative argument against my favourite game series.