Jack Thompson finally did something to the games industry we can agree with!

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#1 RandomWinner
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Didn't see this posted so I'm going for it!

I didn't think this day would ever come the man who tried to ban the likes of GTA4 as well as other M rated games, has, while not single handedly, gotten a game canceled. That game, School Shooter: North American Tour. Or something like that. Now, all we need to do to judge this game is the title and some locations, like Virginia Tech and Columbine, to really make a persuesive argument about why this this should never see the light of day. While I think we, system warriors, can all agree the guy is still an all around dick, I think this game being canceled is something system wars can also agree on.

Seriously, a game, where you shoot people, in a high school or college, based on real events. Can you think of a more politically incorrect, obscene, tasteless piece of trash. I didn't think so.

Edit: LOL! I forgot the link!

http://n4g.com/news/729268/jack-thompson-wins-school-shooter-game-is-cancelled

It happened :P

And sorry about the n4g link, can't link to google translate.

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#2 millerlight89
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I can't agree on that. At the end of the day, it's a **** GAME.

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#3 DerpyMcDerp
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Bullcrap, I was looking forward to playing that game :evil:

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#4 millerlight89
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Bullcrap, I was looking forward to playing that game :evil:

DerpyMcDerp
Yea I was too. Over sensitive people on this planet FTL
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#6 DoomZaW
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the only thing offensive about the game is that it is a hilariously bad HL2 mod

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#7 deactivated-59d151f079814
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.... No I disagree.. People have the right to make games like that.. Just as much as you have the right to not play the game.. Its quite simple really.. When I come across a movie I can't stand, I am not going to petition the company or government to ban it.. But to simply CHANGE the channel.
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#8 Led_poison
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Its only a game
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#9 Dark4ever01
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So he couldn't do anything against real games and now targets crappy free MODS made by angry teenagers? LOL

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#10 gaming25
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[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]

Bullcrap, I was looking forward to playing that game :evil:

millerlight89

Yea I was too. Over sensitive people on this planet FTL

The game even looked like crap. Its not cool to play a game that is based on real tragic events where you are the antagonist.

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#11 Tezcatlipoca666
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It was not a game I would play however I think that they should be allowed to make it if they want...

political correctness can go **** itself.

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#12 Upparoom
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Bullcrap, I was looking forward to playing that game :evil:

DerpyMcDerp

It looked boring and awful, nevermind the offensive concept :?. You might as well spawn Citizens in Gmod.

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#13 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]

Bullcrap, I was looking forward to playing that game :evil:

gaming25

Yea I was too. Over sensitive people on this planet FTL

The game even looked like crap. Its not cool to play a game that is based on real tragic events.

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

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#14 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea I was too. Over sensitive people on this planet FTLsSubZerOo

The game even looked like crap. Its not cool to play a game that is based on real tragic events.

Thats great, but unfortunately people have the right to be jackasses..

Appearantly they dont.

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#15 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea I was too. Over sensitive people on this planet FTLsSubZerOo

The game even looked like crap. Its not cool to play a game that is based on real tragic events.

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]

Bullcrap, I was looking forward to playing that game :evil:

gaming25

Yea I was too. Over sensitive people on this planet FTL

The game even looked like crap. Its not cool to play a game that is based on real tragic events where you are the antagonist.

Whatever dude. Move on it's a game.
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#17 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"] The game even looked like crap. Its not cool to play a game that is based on real tragic events.millerlight89

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game.

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

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#18 hexashadow13
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I don't agree with this. I would never play the game and would be disgusted by it, but playing on what Voltaire said: "I may not like what you create but I will defend to the death your right to create it."

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

gaming25

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game.

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

Censorship of any kind is more dangerous if you ask me... PC is tyrannical.

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#20 Jynxzor
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Can I pose a question to jack? I recently watched a movie called "Rampage" and it was about one man going on a all out killing spree, why is watching that movie any different from playing a video game in the same vien? Sure it's insensative if you put it in the context that they are singeling out a specific area, but as a consumer I demand the right to experience anything and everything that developers can churn out. But in context this game could be a strong message about how bullying or other factors of school life can push a person to do such awefull things. Really it should all be about the context of the message the game is trying to convey. So in the end I can't agree...
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#21 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

gaming25

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game.

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

I've taken a couple psychology classes in college, so don't preach that BS to me. If this game is dangerous, so are all the other violent games and what about the Russian level in CoD? If people take this **** serious, then that's their own fault. I can't help there are **** up individuals on this planet.

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#22 DoomZaW
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

gaming25

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game.

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

how so?

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

gaming25

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game.

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

No sorry if we are going to go down that root, I can start argueing that violent video games can be extremely dangerous to begin with.. So yet again.. No your wrong, this is perfectly fine.. Your going come across things in life that you disagree with, the first knee jerk reaction should not be to shut them up.

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#24 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game. DoomZaW

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

how so?

Cuz people that are **** in the head take it serious, when those people shouldn't be on the streets in the first place.

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#25 DoomZaW
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[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

millerlight89

how so?

Cuz people that are **** in the head take it serious, when those people shouldn't be on the streets in the first place.

I like to know a persons arguments before i call them crazy ;)

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#26 gaming25
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game. millerlight89

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

I've taken a couple psychology classes in college, so don't preach that BS to me. If this game is dangerous, so are all the other violent games and what about the Russian level in CoD? If people take this **** serious, then that's their own fault. I can't help there are **** up individuals on this planet.

This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.
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#27 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

gaming25

I've taken a couple psychology classes in college, so don't preach that BS to me. If this game is dangerous, so are all the other violent games and what about the Russian level in CoD? If people take this **** serious, then that's their own fault. I can't help there are **** up individuals on this planet.

This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.

Yet again, under first amendment rights.. They are perfectly in the lines of doing this.. Deal with it.

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#28 DoomZaW
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

gaming25

I've taken a couple psychology classes in college, so don't preach that BS to me. If this game is dangerous, so are all the other violent games and what about the Russian level in CoD? If people take this **** serious, then that's their own fault. I can't help there are **** up individuals on this planet.

This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.

What about WWII games then?

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#29 BedBugMan
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[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]

Bullcrap, I was looking forward to playing that game :evil:

millerlight89
Yea I was too. Over sensitive people on this planet FTL

I understand where you guys are coming from... but I'm still glad this is banned.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game. millerlight89

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

No sorry if we are going to go down that root, I can start argueing that violent video games can be extremely dangerous to begin with.. So yet again.. No your wrong, this is perfectly fine.. Your going come across things in life that you disagree with, the first knee jerk reaction should not be to shut them up.

You do realize that this is a tragedy that ACTUALLY OCCURED, and was brought up due to phsycological means. Non comparible to COD or GTA4.
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#31 Zurrur
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Damn censorship living in a communist country sucks :(

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#33 deangallop
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@Jynxzor

Saw that movie, parts of it were definitely tasteless, but overall it's up to you to make your decision on weather your rooting for the protagonist, and I doubt the majority were. Plus it was'nt based of real events

This games just being offensive for the sake of being offensive.

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#34 gaming25
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[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] I've taken a couple psychology classes in college, so don't preach that BS to me. If this game is dangerous, so are all the other violent games and what about the Russian level in CoD? If people take this **** serious, then that's their own fault. I can't help there are **** up individuals on this planet.

This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.

What about WWII games then?

Grasping for straws are we? WW2 happened over 60 years ago and is a war game. No one in this day and age can relate to what was going on then. And I hope you realize how much lengths it was taken to make sure you were pro America back then and rightfully, because that type of war was going on then.
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[QUOTE="gaming25"] This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.

It doesn't take a doctorate in Psychology to understand that people are responsible for there own actions. Wars "Should have never took place" Hell Violence in general "Should have never took place"...But we live in a world where these things happen all the time. Some of us want to understand it better, some of us want to experience it in the safety of our own homes using out imaginations. Just because some people can't perceive what is real and what isn't shouldn't be a detriment to the rest of society. I can guarantee any media related "Violence" can be linked farther down than the source materials that inspired the actions. My theory is Stupid people be stupid, and they were bound for idiocy if they let something like a movie or video game influence there actions.
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#36 WilliamRLBaker
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yeah I've agreed with quite a few things jack thompson has said before...his idiotic remarks are actually in the minority.
And yeah this isn't just a game it was specifically made to piss people off. theres a difference between believing what your serving and making something to piss people off and hurt them just cause you want to see them hurt.

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#37 SaltyMeatballs
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I can't agree on that. At the end of the day, it's a **** GAME.

millerlight89
I agree in a way, but free speech can only go so far or whathave you. It's like that "burn a Quran" guy, he wasn't allowed to come to the UK because of that, and people have been blocked for entering the US too. This is similar but in game form I suppose.
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#38 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"] This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.Jynxzor
It doesn't take a doctorate in Psychology to understand that people are responsible for there own actions. Wars "Should have never took place" Hell Violence in general "Should have never took place"...But we live in a world where these things happen all the time. Some of us want to understand it better, some of us want to experience it in the safety of our own homes using out imaginations. Just because some people can't perceive what is real and what isn't shouldn't be a detriment to the rest of society. I can guarantee any media related "Violence" can be linked farther down than the source materials that inspired the actions. My theory is Stupid people be stupid, and they were bound for idiocy if they let something like a movie or video game influence there actions.

But this game is being stupid for no reason whatsoever. There is no appeal to a game like this at all.
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="gaming25"] This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.

It doesn't take a doctorate in Psychology to understand that people are responsible for there own actions. Wars "Should have never took place" Hell Violence in general "Should have never took place"...But we live in a world where these things happen all the time. Some of us want to understand it better, some of us want to experience it in the safety of our own homes using out imaginations. Just because some people can't perceive what is real and what isn't shouldn't be a detriment to the rest of society. I can guarantee any media related "Violence" can be linked farther down than the source materials that inspired the actions. My theory is Stupid people be stupid, and they were bound for idiocy if they let something like a movie or video game influence there actions.

I know how ya feel man, but not making this game might have saved a kid's life for all we know... I know exactly what you mean, and part of me agrees, but ultimately I feel like those "stupid people" are to blame for stuff like this getting banned... not the people who complain about it. I expect someone to challenge me with a hypothetical with a moral boundary so blurry I wont know where to start... so just to make things clear, I completely understand both sides on this issue, and kinda agree with both sides of this issue... but ultimately I'm glad this game wasnt made.
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Its a freaking user created mod. This crap is pointless and annoying.
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]Can I pose a question to jack? I recently watched a movie called "Rampage" and it was about one man going on a all out killing spree, why is watching that movie any different from playing a video game in the same vien? Sure it's insensative if you put it in the context that they are singeling out a specific area, but as a consumer I demand the right to experience anything and everything that developers can churn out.

I'm not trying to sound like a Jack Thompson here, but videogames are way more interactive than movies. The eternal argument of movies being just as violent is and therefore it's ok to endorse these type of violent games is something that should be dispelled. I assume this is a FPS in which you view and interact everything from a first person view. You can interact and see the results of your interaction, which is shooting people up. Much unlike a movie in which you don't have any input in the violence. Games like GTA always have a disclaimer that says their entire game is based on fiction and you can always discern it from reality. This shooting game however, re-enacts a shooting incident and it's not fiction anymore but indeed an re-enactment. It has no educational value which some movies with (excessive) violence that re-enact certain things, do have. This game is not made by people with a healthy state of mind, it's socially unacceptable. There are limits and boundries to freedom of speech, but it should never regress to these kinds of abominations.
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#42 Jankarcop
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hope this doesn't lead to a slippery road where every mods are canceled

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#43 Promised_Trini
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Sorry but stopping a MOD...Won't end violence...Someone better tell Jack Thompson that...

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#44 DoomZaW
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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="gaming25"] This type of crap is basically putting someone in an actual event that shouldve never took place. Its easy to see "well screw it, its a game", but that doesnt mean crap when it is something like this.gaming25
It doesn't take a doctorate in Psychology to understand that people are responsible for there own actions. Wars "Should have never took place" Hell Violence in general "Should have never took place"...But we live in a world where these things happen all the time. Some of us want to understand it better, some of us want to experience it in the safety of our own homes using out imaginations. Just because some people can't perceive what is real and what isn't shouldn't be a detriment to the rest of society. I can guarantee any media related "Violence" can be linked farther down than the source materials that inspired the actions. My theory is Stupid people be stupid, and they were bound for idiocy if they let something like a movie or video game influence there actions.

But this game is being stupid for no reason whatsoever. There is no appeal to a game like this at all.

Have you even seen the game? it is the sloppiest piece of **** i've ever seen in my entire life, in fact, it is so poorly made that a 12-year old could do it in Gmod in an afternoon: Find/make a map resembling a school, find/make custom FPS mesh of a tech 9, spawn lots of city 17 citizens in said map DONE! Modders have been doing this stuff for ages, heck, you can probably find HL2 mods that are alot more offensive than this. To get worked about this is amateur work is more stupid than actually making it.

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#45 6matt6
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Thats great, but fortunately people have the right to be jackasses and not to be.. Especially when it comes to something like this, nothing is preventing you from moving on.

gaming25

I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game.

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

There is no link between violent video games and real life violence. So whats the objection other then a few people getting their panties in a twist?
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You guys that get offend so easily could always not play it. Not like that matters thank to Jack. Gaming is going down the craper when you have people agreeing with this guy.
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#47 TacticalDesire
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Eh fine, a mod like that is simply bad for an industry that already faces far to much media scrutiny and criticism. I wasn't going to play it and I'm happy with it being canceled. Sure it's just a game, but it's still disgusting.

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#48 Promised_Trini
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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I guess the jackass this was pointed at me, but whateves. At the end of the day it's a game. 6matt6

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

There is no link between violent video games and real life violence. So whats the objection other then a few people getting their panties in a twist?

Thank you!!!!...People should know by now the difference between games and real life...

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#49 TacticalDesire
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You guys that get offend so easily could always not play it. Not like that matters thank to Jack. Gaming is going down the craper when you have people agreeing with this guy. millerlight89

I just think that it would be far more trouble than it would be worth. Plus I can understand how someone who lost a relative in a school shooting would be emotional or upset about the matter. If gaming wants to become recocgnized as a legitimate entertainment medium, a school shooter mod is only going to set that quest back. Plus let's face facts it wasn't going to revolutionary or something. I'm sure in terms of quality it would be no better than thousands of other mods out there.

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#50 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

If you understood psychology, then you would understand why games like those are dangerous.

Promised_Trini

There is no link between violent video games and real life violence. So whats the objection other then a few people getting their panties in a twist?

Thank you!!!!...People should know by now the difference between games and real life...

Actually there are school shootings that can be linked to the film Basketball Diaries. I personally am a firm believer in violent video games, in fact I myself play tons of them and I think they have the right to be made, but something like a school shooter really does cross the line for numerous reasons.