Japanese loathe western games and next gen games

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#1 tutt3r
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http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/09/western-games-japan/

Its too bad that theymiss out on some great games, but i guess it can be said for some of their games we miss. No wonder the DS dominates

sorry if old

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#2 funsohng
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I'm fine with missing a game with male idols
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#3 Teuf_
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Wow, I can't believe the top 76 games in Japan are all Japanese. That's just crazy.

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#4 SaltyMeatballs
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Didn't realise they were so close minded.
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#6 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Exactly, something we don't do here at all!
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#7 tutt3r
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Wow, I can't believe the top 76 games in Japan are all Japanese. That's just crazy.

Teufelhuhn

yeah you would think that there would be more variation. Whereas the US and Canada and Europe and AU top 100 have a mix of game from all regions.

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#8 majadamus
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Didn't realise they were so close minded.SaltyMeatballs
Not surprising at all. They have a disparaging term for foreigners called "gaijin". They're probably very xenophobic.
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#9 suitmypants
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sucks for them. They're missing out.

Can't say the same for Japanese games though...

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#10 Arach666
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That´s just sad to be honest.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Didn't realise they were so close minded.majadamus
Not surprising at all. They have a disparaging term for foreigners called "gaijin". They're probably very xenophobic.

They are.
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#12 Arach666
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[QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Didn't realise they were so close minded.siLVURcross
Not surprising at all. They have a disparaging term for foreigners called "gaijin". They're probably very xenophobic.

They are.

I´d say they´re ethnocentric,not really xenophobic.

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#13 hypoty
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Didn't realise they were so close minded.SaltyMeatballs

A friend of mine who lived in Japan for a couple of years once told me that "When you first come to Japan people will look at you like a dog that walks on hind legs. But when you stay longer, you learn the language and the culture then they look at you completely different. More like a dog that walks on its hind legs that speaks Japanese".

I don't mean to generalise, though.

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#14 67gt500
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I think the Japanese disdain for Western games stems from their general disdain for firearms...
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#15 InfinityMugen
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Didn't realise they were so close minded.SaltyMeatballs
Yeah. It's not like we play mostly FPS's here.
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#16 TheShadowLord07
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Exactly, something we don't do here at all!siLVURcross
was this sarcasm? I can't tell.

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#17 Espada12
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I think the Japanese disdain for Western games stems from their general disdain for firearms...67gt500
'

Not really, especially since they love gundams.

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I think the Japanese disdain for Western games stems from their general disdain for firearms...67gt500
Was the upcoming Yakuza game involved the main characters using firearms including machine guns against zombies?
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#19 Human-after-all
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They are xenophobic, not just to westerners but even the surrounding Asian cultures. Not all Japanese are xeno, obviously but it is pretty common.

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#20 TheShadowLord07
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I think the Japanese disdain for Western games stems from their general disdain for firearms...67gt500

arent mgs,dmc,and re popular in japan?

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#21 funsohng
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Exactly, something we don't do here at all!TheShadowLord07

was this sarcasm? I can't tell.

since it's from silvur, I'm assuming it is sarcasm.
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#22 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Exactly, something we don't do here at all!funsohng

was this sarcasm? I can't tell.

since it's from silvur, I'm assuming it is sarcasm.

eh, I dont know then. I mean have their games have been popular here in the west? you know like reisdent evil,pokemon, metal gear solid,GT,Final fantasy, street fighter,zelda,kirby,donkey kong, kindgom hearts,GT?

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#23 67gt500
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]I think the Japanese disdain for Western games stems from their general disdain for firearms...thom_maytees
Was the upcoming Yakuza game involved the main characters using firearms including machine guns against zombies?

Yeah, there's going to be more gunplay in that one... but Yakuza games (so far) have been more about dealing the damage with your fists, feet and things in the game environment... the Japanese just aren't enamoured with guns like N. Americans are - if they make a product with firearms, they're probably just trying to pander to the NA / European market(s)...
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#24 tagyhag
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Well they're more Ethnocentric than us that's for sure.
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#25 LittleMac19
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Close minded people tend to miss out on the best things in life so I'm not suprised.
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#26 Espada12
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eh, I dont know then. I mean have their games have been popular here in the west? you know like reisdent evil,pokemon, metal gear solid,GT,Final fantasy, street fighter,zelda,kirby,donkey kong, kindgom hearts,GT?

TheShadowLord07

The majority of japanese games are not well received in the west, however more Japanese games are accepted here than they accept western games..

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#27 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

eh, I dont know then. I mean have their games have been popular here in the west? you know like reisdent evil,pokemon, metal gear solid,GT,Final fantasy, street fighter,zelda,kirby,donkey kong, kindgom hearts,GT?

Espada12

The majority of japanese games are not well received in the west, however more Japanese games are accepted here than they accept western games..

can you go into further detail please? Im having a hard time understand what your saying.

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#28 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

eh, I dont know then. I mean have their games have been popular here in the west? you know like reisdent evil,pokemon, metal gear solid,GT,Final fantasy, street fighter,zelda,kirby,donkey kong, kindgom hearts,GT?

TheShadowLord07

The majority of japanese games are not well received in the west, however more Japanese games are accepted here than they accept western games..

can you go into further detail please? Im having a hard time understand what your saying.

We do they same thing, it's just not as bad.

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#29 Scoob64
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I'm fine with missing a game with male idolsfunsohng

Phd in physics from MIT... ;)

Seriously.

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#30 shinrabanshou
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We do they same thing, it's just not as bad.

Espada12

Generally they have the good sense not to publish games like IdolMasters or Gal Gun in the West. But if they did those would flop badly.

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#31 GTSaiyanjin2
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They dont like us at all... just look at this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkXUOefxZu0

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#32 AmayaPapaya
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I didn't realize it was that bad:?

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#33 emorainbo
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I'm fine with missing a game with male idolsScoob64

Phd in physics from MIT... ;)

Seriously.

Why is there a pic of Dr. House in here? :P

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#34 SakusEnvoy
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I wish I could say it was just a matter of different aesthetic and gameplay tastes, but it's odd that games like Resident Evil 5 and Metal Gear Solid 4 do so well on the list while the average Western game wouldn't be touched with a ten foot pole. Japanese audience don't seem to mind fawning over shooters with Western characters and realistic graphics... they just seem to prefer the game be made in Japan and have a familiar Japanese series name attached to it.

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#35 AmayaPapaya
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They dont like us at all... just look at this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkXUOefxZu0

GTSaiyanjin2

But in the end, he found friends :o

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#36 Scoob64
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[QUOTE="Scoob64"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]I'm fine with missing a game with male idolsemorainbo

Phd in physics from MIT... ;)

Seriously.

Why is there a pic of Dr. House in here? :P

haha- hey they're both doctors, just different types ;) its easy to get em confused- heh

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#37 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="majadamus"] Not surprising at all. They have a disparaging term for foreigners called "gaijin". They're probably very xenophobic. Arach666

They are.

I´d say they´re ethnocentric,not really xenophobic.

Mm, that's a better word for sure.
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#38 WilliamRLBaker
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Didn't realise they were so close minded.SaltyMeatballs
dude your talking about a people that for some 200-300 years were xenophobic to the point of not letting any foreigner except the dutch on the entire island...I wont even mention the friends they picked during WW2.
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#39 Diviniuz
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Didn't realise they were so close minded.SaltyMeatballs
I just don't think developers bother advertising their Western games there, so I think that might be an issue
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#40 funsohng
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I'm fine with missing a game with male idolsScoob64
Seriously.

yup Idol Master 2 has male idols and you have even the Japanese going berserk on this in 2ch right now.
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#41 Origami_Kill3r
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I live in the best place in the world for gaming. North America. If I lived in japan Id be a close minded gamer and if I lived in europe companies would take forever releasing the game.

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#42 santoron
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Wow, I can't believe the top 76 games in Japan are all Japanese. That's just crazy.

Teufelhuhn

Same here. I knew the market tended towards Japanese titles, but that stat floored me. :shock:

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#43 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Didn't realise they were so close minded.InfinityMugen
Yeah. It's not like we play mostly FPS's here.

But on the other hand, titles like Final Fantasy and Street Fighter, and so on sell well here. It's not really the same.
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#44 Origami_Kill3r
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This is the same reason the 360 is flopping in Japan. Not because Microsoft has tried but because Microsoft isnt run by Japanese employees.

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#45 Arach666
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I live in the best place in the world for gaming. North America. If I lived in japan Id be a close minded gamer and if I lived in europe companies would take forever releasing the game.

Origami_Kill3r
Most games come out in European countries at the same time,there are exceptions like DS but that goes both ways,I guess.
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#46 dontshackzmii
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the gen has been pretty lame if you like japanese games . western gamers have no taste its all call of duty and space Marines .

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#47 santoron
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Didn't realise they were so close minded.Diviniuz
I just don't think developers bother advertising their Western games there, so I think that might be an issue

Actually, the amount of advertising and floor space given to western games mentioned in the article surprised me as well. The devs and publishers are really pushing these products... it just sounds like the people don't care.

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#48 Origami_Kill3r
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"The term 'foreign game' is traditionally an insult — it means 'low quality."Japan gamers calling our games Crap................. I think its about time someone sent them a mirror because there hasn't been a decent JRPG in years.

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#49 Origami_Kill3r
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the gen has been pretty lame if you like japanese games . western gamers have no taste its all call of duty and space Marines .

dontshackzmii
And Uncharted2, Dragon age, mass effect, ect, ect. The west has produced many great games this gen.
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#50 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]I think the Japanese disdain for Western games stems from their general disdain for firearms...TheShadowLord07

arent mgs,dmc,and re popular in japan?

but those games are japanese so they get a pass.