Jason West Fired By Activision Blizzard,**** Keep all Activision topics here***

BTW, if I were Bethesda or EA, I'd be on the phone ASAP with this guy to start a new studio. Especially Bethesda with the failure of Rogue Warrior and mediocre Wet.

EA seems to be trying a new approach as Bioware has had nothing to complain about. Zeschuk and Muzyka seem very content.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"] If short, laughable campaigns coupled with unbalanced, broken multiplayer is your thing, hey, go for it.Brownesque

Hey, I'm not trying to say you're wrong. I'm just saying that the consumer base still thinks it's quality for the most part, and the reviewers still think it's quality for the most part, so for all intents and purposes it's still quality.

Okay, a better way of phrasing that would be "for the purposes of this discussion". The "actual" quality of IW's games is irrelevant. The percieved quality is what matters from a business perspective, and I don't think the majority of consumers have started thinking that IW's product is lower in quality because of some multiplayer bugs.

BTW, if I were Bethesda or EA, I'd be on the phone ASAP with this guy to start a new studio. Especially Bethesda with the failure of Rogue Warrior and mediocre Wet.

KristoffBrujah

Actually Bethesda is the publisher.

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BTW, if I were Bethesda or EA, I'd be on the phone ASAP with this guy to start a new studio. Especially Bethesda with the failure of Rogue Warrior and mediocre Wet.

Vesica_Prime

Actually Bethesda is the publisher.

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BTW, if I were Bethesda or EA, I'd be on the phone ASAP with this guy to start a new studio. Especially Bethesda with the failure of Rogue Warrior and mediocre Wet.

Vesica_Prime

Actually Bethesda is the publisher.

Yes, I know. They take part of the loss on crap like Wet and RW. They basically own the IP. The developer typically just develops the game if it's a subsidiary of the publisher (which is nearly 100% of the time now with big publishers.)

It could just be Jason West that's fired....and also....why do you have his Facebook?

I smell fakes.

It could just be Jason West that's fired....and also....why do you have his Facebook?

I smell fakes.

LegatoSkyheart

From what it seems like in SiKh22's link the situation is getting intense. First West gets fired. The staff still doesn't know where Vince Zampella is. And there are security people outside their room. Sounds to me it's more like a hostile takeover than a simple dispute...

From what it seems like in SiKh22's link the situation is getting intense. First West gets fired. The staff still doesn't know where Vince Zampella is. And there are security people outside their room. Sounds to me it's more like a hostile takeover than a simple dispute...

OneLazyAsian

What the what? Activision already owns IW, and I don't think "hostile takeover" means what you think it means.

I posted this in the other thread, haha. :D

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From what it seems like in SiKh22's link the situation is getting intense. First West gets fired. The staff still doesn't know where Vince Zampella is. And there are security people outside their room. Sounds to me it's more like a hostile takeover than a simple dispute...

PBSnipes

What the what? Activision already owns IW, and I don't think "hostile takeover" means what you think it means.

I'm just liking it to a hostile takeover. I know what it means.

Wow. Check this out.

ctrl-f for "Infinity Ward" and read the whole paragraph on the first hit.

This is starting to look bad. :(

By the way, there's a more up-to-date thread on GB, which is where I got that filing.

By the way, there's a more up-to-date thread on GB, which is where I got that filing.

Cherokee_Jack

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By the way, there's a more up-to-date thread on GB, which is where I got that filing.

Unforgiven2870

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By the way, there's a more up-to-date thread on GB, which is where I got that filing.

linkthewindow

Well until this 'insubordination' comes with details there isn't much to say on it really. I doubt Activision would so easily fire people on Infinity Ward for a small reason. And no matter how much you may love IW you can't say they should be able to do such as they please.

Well until this 'insubordination' comes with details there isn't much to say on it really. I doubt Activision would so easily fire people on Infinity Ward for a small reason. And no matter how much you may love IW you can't say they should be able to do such as they please.

Mystic-G

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Well until this 'insubordination' comes with details there isn't much to say on it really. I doubt Activision would so easily fire people on Infinity Ward for a small reason. And no matter how much you may love IW you can't say they should be able to do such as they please.

Cherokee_Jack

Is it too early to say that I'm looking forward to the first-person shooting product that those guys all make at their new company?Jeff

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]True. I'm sure they're within their rights. Doesn't mean they aren't being dicks as usual.Unforgiven2870

Is it too early to say that I'm looking forward to the first-person shooting product that those guys all make at their new company?Jeff

Heh. That's maybe a little too optimistic, but I'm right with him.

heh at Jeff's tweet...

[QUOTE="Jeff"] Is it too early to say that I'm looking forward to the first-person shooting product that those guys all make at their new company?Unforgiven2870

They can go to EALA and work on Medal of Honour! :o

[QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"]heh at Jeff's tweet...

[QUOTE="Jeff"] Is it too early to say that I'm looking forward to the first-person shooting product that those guys all make at their new company?PBSnipes

They can go to EALA and work on Medal of Honour! :o

IW campaign + DICE multi...

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Need to change my pants.

Oh, look, the thread is stickied now. Someone was paying attention.

do publishers even do anything with a game?lonewolf604

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]do publishers even do anything with a game?Unforgiven2870

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[QUOTE="lonewolf604"]do publishers even do anything with a game?Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Unforgiven2870"]ummm yes,they................publish games.

KungfuKitten

Yeah, they fund development so the devs don't have to pay everything from their own pockets, and because of that they have a share of the profits from the game's sales.

"Remember... no corporate-speak."Jeff on Twitter

Can't wait for the Bombcast tomorrow/later today.

More from Twitter:

Getting mad at Activision for this kind of thing is like getting mad at an ape for throwing feces. It's just how the beast communicates.Tim Schafer

More from Twitter:

[quote="Tim Schafer"]Getting mad at Activision for this kind of thing is like getting mad at an ape for throwing feces. It's just how the beast communicates.Cherokee_Jack

It would be funny if a large chunk of IW staff would leave and start their own new studio, which would create a game that would kill CoD.

It already happened once with Medal of Honor (that's how CoD was born) and history likes to repeat itself

AdrianWerner

Activision are being dicks, what else is new?

Who is Jason exactly???Darkmoone1

This is to be expected. Activision don't need them anymore. They have earneda billion dollar franchise of them, now it's time they move on.

You can say what you like about Kotick and his boys, but they're not stupid

Activision is kicking their cash cow dev, and keeping the rights to the game. How is this not similar to what MS did? Right business decision anyway, the name is what sells, plus Im sure they suspect the CoD name is at its peak.

In essence, this is a GOOD thing. Hopefully the poor sods of IW will regroup (should more of them resign), form another dev studio, and begin to make quality titles again.

It won't be long before West and Zampella form another dev studio or go to work for someone else. They are talent people who should be a hot commodity.

Activision is kicking their cash cow dev, and keeping the rights to the game. How is this not similar to what MS did?h575309

Wow Activision didn't pay IW royalties for MW2. :|

http://www.bingegamer.net/2010/infinity-ward-has-not-received-royalties-for-modern-warfare-2/

Wow Activision didn't pay IW royalties for MW2. :|

http://www.bingegamer.net/2010/infinity-ward-has-not-received-royalties-for-modern-warfare-2/

Rockman999

I hadn't read up on this royalties thing. Wasn't aware that IW was only under contract with Acti.

Maybe this is more about an acquisition, as the article says.

My heart is bleeding.

[QUOTE="h575309"]Activision is kicking their cash cow dev, and keeping the rights to the game. How is this not similar to what MS did?Cherokee_Jack