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#1 skinny_man_69
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I have noticed that within the past few months that is has become almost a staple in System Wars for every other thread to somehow hate on the 360. It is true, the 360 hasn't had the greatest year and this year is clearly the year of the PS3 (inFamous, Killzone 2, Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2 etc) but honestly, I dont see why the machine has suddenly become the target of rampant and vehement fanboy remarks. I get that this is System Wars and this is the place where debates of console supremacy occur, but it as if the 360 can do no right and any success that is made is instantly discredited (ODST is only an expansion, Forza 3 demo looks like garbage, 360 has no games this year or next year etc) I am not sure if this is just blind fanboyism from cows (who have seemed to influx so greatly in numbers within the past few months I would say they now outnumber lemmings and sheep combined) or it is now an accepted fact that the 360 is no longer seen as a successful console. I just feel bad for the poor machine because, I will admit, it is my favourite console this generation (although I have been playing my PS3 more recently) but I do not believe he deserves such punishment. I would just like to understand where all this hate began and why every other topic is either bashing on 360's lack of exclusives, PS3 having already won this generation and/or 360's hardware failure rate (which has been posted so often I am surprised that it isn't common knowledge)

P.S. Another observation I have made is that although there are MANY threads bashing the 360, two-thirds of the replies seem to actually be rational rebuttals. Why don't these numbers reflect the qualities of the topics being posted, instead of the consistent level of garbage posted by fanboys. Why can this System Wars community not have intellectual arguments instead of spewing incoherent logic and then using that against a system?

Signed, A Concerned Game Lover :(

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#2 Toriko42
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They might as well do it while they can, just like at 360's 2010...

Good games should be celebrated, I'm tired of games flopping

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#3 fire-dragon-90
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Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

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#4 Messiahbolical-
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Maybe instead of being mad at GS users you should be mad at Microsoft for not securing more good exclusives that way the 360 wouldn't be so easy to pick on. :|
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#5 kkevguy47k
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I think the main reason is that before 2008, the 360 was so dominant it wasn't funny. but since then, the ps3 has become the better console and causing an awaiting eruption of fire-breathing cows to spew everywhere. Everyone knows that because the 360 and ps3 are so similar, that they want theirs to be viewed better.

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#6 Thessassin
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maybe its retribution for 06-07 or maybe the lack of games or maybe now that Sony is putting out good games the cows now have the testicular fortitude to bash the once almighty 360

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Maybe instead of being mad at GS users you should be mad at Microsoft for not securing more good exclusives that way the 360 wouldn't be so easy to pick on. :|Messiahbolical-

Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

fire-dragon-90

It's a stampede!!

oh, and yes, it gets a lot of undeserved hate, especially with the recent flow of good games on the ps3 (because you know, multiplats are apparently non-exsistant)

this wont end well

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#8 Messiahbolical-
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Oh, and 360 fans were just of guilty of it 2006-2007. Do you not remember all the PS3 hate back then? The tables have turned and now PS3 fans are getting their sweet revenge.
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#9 nhh18
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I think the main reason is that before 2008, the 360 was so dominant it wasn't funny. but since then, the ps3 has become the better console and causing an awaiting eruption of fire-breathing cows to spew everywhere. Everyone knows that because the 360 and ps3 are so similar, that they want theirs to be viewed better.

kkevguy47k

Dude it is just when games get released, the equilibrium gets shifted. For 2 years since zelda tp, you will see ps3 is doomed, and other topics. Now you see the opposite because xbox 360 has had a drought.

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#10 Dante2710
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because fanboys will be fanboys, regardless of the system, they all have the need to prove that their system is the best.
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#11 SolidTy
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The 360 had a great run up until MGS4, then the tide started shifting a little bit. The PS3 gained a lot of momentum last year with 3 AAA's+ MGS4, LBP, and Resistance 2, against GeoW2.

Then this year Sony delivered AAA MLB09:The Show, Killzone 2, InFamous, and Demon's Souls, with Sony's Uncharted 2 and Ratchet still left to be reviewed.

The only AAA for this year, like last year, was Halo ODST. Forza is the last hope, but even with an AAA, it's not going to balance off everything.

So, that's all you are seeing, is this year in SW. The fortunes should balance out next year with Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, etc to compete against GT5, GOW3, etc.

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You should have visisted 2005-2008, it was a PS3 bash fest, but the lower price and 1st Party games shifted things around.

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Maybe instead of being mad at GS users you should be mad at Microsoft for not securing more good exclusives that way the 360 wouldn't be so easy to pick on. :|Mr_Apple_Soup

Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

fire-dragon-90

It's a stampede!!

oh, and yes, it gets a lot of undeserved hate, especially with the recent flow of good games on the ps3 (because you know, multiplats are apparently non-exsistant)

this wont end well

who really buys a system for multiplats?

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#13 Longcat2
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Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

fire-dragon-90

You're silly. The 360 has over 700 games. How could you possibly think it has no games?

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Welcome to System Wars.

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#15 diablo2602
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do you like sports? or play sports? because whats the point of winning if you cant rub it in your opponents face? and you know when your opponent beats you they will do the same. so for now the ps3 fan boys are just rubbing it in the 360 fan boys faces. and all they can do for now is just wait until the next game. which is next year in this case.

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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

[QUOTE="fire-dragon-90"]

Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

Thessassin

It's a stampede!!

oh, and yes, it gets a lot of undeserved hate, especially with the recent flow of good games on the ps3 (because you know, multiplats are apparently non-exsistant)

this wont end well

who really buys a system for multiplats?

A person that can only afford one system:|

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#17 DeadEndPanda
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its nothing new.

in 2006-07 the ps3 was bullied alot

in 2008-09 it was the wii

2009- its the xbox360

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Oh, and 360 fans were just of guilty of it 2006-2007. Do you not remember all the PS3 hate back then? The tables have turned and now PS3 fans are getting their sweet revenge.Messiahbolical-

Thats just sad. You take video game consoles too seriously.

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#19 Munasha
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Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

fire-dragon-90

true i never thought the day would come.remember when ppl used to hate on the PS3."Its cost to much, It has no games".now there is nothing bad to say about it. so ps3 owners r just rubbing it.:D

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#20 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and 360 fans were just of guilty of it 2006-2007. Do you not remember all the PS3 hate back then? The tables have turned and now PS3 fans are getting their sweet revenge.Longcat2

Thats just sad. You take video game consoles too seriously.

As do many in System Wars. I don't understand it, but I'm don't have the mind of a fanboy.

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#21 Longcat2
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do you like sports? or play sports? because whats the point of winning if you cant rub it in your opponents face? and you know when your opponent beats you they will do the same. so for now the ps3 fan boys are just rubbing it in the 360 fan boys faces. and all they can do for now is just wait until the next game. which is next year in this case.

diablo2602

You obviously have never played a sport in your life. Whenever you pick up a sport you will always be taught a universal set of codes and conducts for correct sportsmanship, which most people put into practice.

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#22 IppoTenma
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The Wii has twice as many bashes. No offense, but get over it.
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#23 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="diablo2602"]

do you like sports? or play sports? because whats the point of winning if you cant rub it in your opponents face? and you know when your opponent beats you they will do the same. so for now the ps3 fan boys are just rubbing it in the 360 fan boys faces. and all they can do for now is just wait until the next game. which is next year in this case.

Longcat2

You obviously have never played a sport in your life. Whenever you pick up a sport you will always be taught a universal set of codes and conducts for correct sportsmanship, which most people put into practice.

Yeah. On every sports team I've been on, taunting and unsportsman-like conduct gets you benched in the next game.

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and 360 fans were just of guilty of it 2006-2007. Do you not remember all the PS3 hate back then? The tables have turned and now PS3 fans are getting their sweet revenge.Longcat2

Thats just sad. You take video game consoles too seriously.

You take things people say in SW too seriously. SW is for fun. I can say whatever I want on here(well not technically due to the dreaded ToS) :P
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Oh, and 360 fans were just of guilty of it 2006-2007. Do you not remember all the PS3 hate back then? The tables have turned and now PS3 fans are getting their sweet revenge.Messiahbolical-
See that is what I mean. Sweet revenge. Why do people take their consoles so seriously in the terms of sales and exclusivity. Did they make these consoles? Are their paychecks reliant on whether or not their system or the games on said system sell better than another? I wish people would just calm down and be happy for each other's preferred gaming devices. I don't mind a little competition, but when you see people saying stuff like "The PS3 or 360 version runs 30 fps while the other version runs 60! Guess that means the other system is garbage and should accept ownage!" it just bothers me. I mean, who cares? Play the version that you can and be happy. That is the world I want to live in... one day
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its nothing new.

in 2006-07 the ps3 was bullied alot

in 2008-09 it was the wii

2009- its the xbox360

DeadEndPanda

I remember the 360 getting bashed alot during 2005-2006. It is just a cycle, that never ends.

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#27 ZoomZoom2490
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how about the stuff lemms were saying like ps3 is finished in 2007, etc....

it looks like you are pissed off at MS but taking it out on ps3 fans.

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#28 Thessassin
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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

It's a stampede!!

oh, and yes, it gets a lot of undeserved hate, especially with the recent flow of good games on the ps3 (because you know, multiplats are apparently non-exsistant)

this wont end well

MJPK

who really buys a system for multiplats?

A person that can only afford one system:|

even then what will they do? look at the price, and offerings of the options availiable to them and decide from there. If one system has a bunch of games, and the other has the same games and then some that are exclusive, the exclusives make a whole lot of difference. So even then they will look at exclusives.

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#29 FunkyHeadHunter
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It goes in spurts. As soon as a price is dropped a certain game comes out for a certain system everyone gangs up on the other consoles. Happens here every day. Tomorrow it will be the PS3s turn or the Wii..Basically this forums is for s%^ and giggles nothing more.

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#31 skinny_man_69
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

how about the stuff lemms were saying like ps3 is finished in 2007, etc....

it looks like you are pissed off at MS but taking it out on ps3 fans.

Why would I be mad at Microsoft? Do they go around making asinine threads or posts bashing consoles or games because they didn't reach a certain potential or didn't quite match their rival? No I dont think so and thanks for illustrating my point of broken logic. "TC is mad. TC seems to like the 360. Therefore, TC is mad at Microsoft." If you were to use that logic anywhere else in the world, people would laugh in your face
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and 360 fans were just of guilty of it 2006-2007. Do you not remember all the PS3 hate back then? The tables have turned and now PS3 fans are getting their sweet revenge.skinny_man_69
See that is what I mean. Sweet revenge. Why do people take their consoles so seriously in the terms of sales and exclusivity. Did they make these consoles? Are their paychecks reliant on whether or not their system or the games on said system sell better than another? I wish people would just calm down and be happy for each other's preferred gaming devices. I don't mind a little competition, but when you see people saying stuff like "The PS3 or 360 version runs 30 fps while the other version runs 60! Guess that means the other system is garbage and should accept ownage!" it just bothers me. I mean, who cares? Play the version that you can and be happy. That is the world I want to live in... one day

Calm down bro. It's just fun to own lemmings after getting owned by them in 2005-07. But they probably thought the same thing in 05-07 after getting owned by the PS2 for so long last gen. Every console has it's time to shine(except the Wii :P ), and what would SW be if that console's fans didn't rub it in while they still can? ;)

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#33 Longcat2
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[QUOTE="Munasha"]

[QUOTE="fire-dragon-90"]

Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

POPEYE1716

true i never thought the day would come.remember when ppl used to hate on the PS3."Its cost to much, It has no games".now there is nothing bad to say about it. so ps3 owners r just rubbing it.:D

@ longcat like you have room to talk. Honestly.

I have plenty of room to talk. What are you gonna do about it?

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Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

fire-dragon-90
Multiplatform. There are many many amazing games on both systems.
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[QUOTE="diablo2602"]

do you like sports? or play sports? because whats the point of winning if you cant rub it in your opponents face? and you know when your opponent beats you they will do the same. so for now the ps3 fan boys are just rubbing it in the 360 fan boys faces. and all they can do for now is just wait until the next game. which is next year in this case.

Longcat2

You obviously have never played a sport in your life. Whenever you pick up a sport you will always be taught a universal set of codes and conducts for correct sportsmanship, which most people put into practice.

yah you know me... i wrestled and played football in high school and when we beat our rival high school team. we rubbed it in there faces all year. of course at the game we didnt... but after the fact... i like how you know me so well.. and know my life background...

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#36 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Munasha"]

[QUOTE="fire-dragon-90"]

Leave if you dont dont like it, SW is meant to be like this and lets face it.. 360 have no games.

POPEYE1716

true i never thought the day would come.remember when ppl used to hate on the PS3."Its cost to much, It has no games".now there is nothing bad to say about it. so ps3 owners r just rubbing it.:D

@ longcat like you have room to talk. Honestly.

Why? Because he has a pic of Marcus Fenix as his icon? He likes the game. That doesn't mean he's a fanboy.

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#37 bphan
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People can talk. At the end of the day, the PS3 is and will continue to always be in last place.

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[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Oh, and 360 fans were just of guilty of it 2006-2007. Do you not remember all the PS3 hate back then? The tables have turned and now PS3 fans are getting their sweet revenge.Messiahbolical-

See that is what I mean. Sweet revenge. Why do people take their consoles so seriously in the terms of sales and exclusivity. Did they make these consoles? Are their paychecks reliant on whether or not their system or the games on said system sell better than another? I wish people would just calm down and be happy for each other's preferred gaming devices. I don't mind a little competition, but when you see people saying stuff like "The PS3 or 360 version runs 30 fps while the other version runs 60! Guess that means the other system is garbage and should accept ownage!" it just bothers me. I mean, who cares? Play the version that you can and be happy. That is the world I want to live in... one day

Calm down bro. It's just fun to own lemmings after getting owned by them in 2005-07. But they probably thought the same thing in 05-07 after getting owned by the PS2 for so long last gen. Every console has it's time to shine(except the Wii :P ), and what would SW be if that console's fans didn't rub it in while they still can? ;)

I am calm its just....ugh. I guess I am more frustrated that people don't know how to use the SEARCH function on Gamespot and if they don't see "360 has no AAAE this holiday season" on the front page, they post a whole new thread about it. So much fun
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#39 Longcat2
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[QUOTE="Longcat2"]

[QUOTE="diablo2602"]

do you like sports? or play sports? because whats the point of winning if you cant rub it in your opponents face? and you know when your opponent beats you they will do the same. so for now the ps3 fan boys are just rubbing it in the 360 fan boys faces. and all they can do for now is just wait until the next game. which is next year in this case.

diablo2602

You obviously have never played a sport in your life. Whenever you pick up a sport you will always be taught a universal set of codes and conducts for correct sportsmanship, which most people put into practice.

yah you know me... i wrestled and played football in high school and when we beat our rival high school team. we rubbed it in there faces all year. of course at the game we didnt... but after the fact... i like how you know me so well.. and know my life background...

Woah calm down dude, seriously take a chill pill. Why are you getting so hard?

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#40 theSADmafioso
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The constant bashing of the different platforms is half the reason I come here so I don't mind it too much.

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#41 MJPK
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People can talk. At the end of the day, the PS3 is and will continue to always be in last place.

bphan

ok and how do u know this?

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#42 santoron
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It seriously goes both ways. Fanboys from every side take their potshots when they can, and then when the other side finds a hole, those fanboys pounce back with the past trolling still fresh in mind. Cows didn't invent trolling, and some of the most notorious trolls around here HATE Sony.

And there are plenty of people having a more rational debate... even in those very same threads. You just have to learn the posters to read and the posters to ignore.

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#43 finalstar2007
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People can talk. At the end of the day, the PS3 is and will continue to always be in last place.

bphan

Can you please tell me how you know this? do you see the future by any chance?

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#44 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="bphan"]

People can talk. At the end of the day, the PS3 is and will continue to always be in last place.

finalstar2007

Can you please tell me how you know this? do you see the future by any chance?

Like so many others one this site, it seems he has a time machine.

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#45 cb_au
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Yeah i agree. I worked at JB Hi Fi for a couple of months . And Sonys slim machine was putting the Xbox to shame. But MW2 and ODST backed up alot of support for the green box.

For me, Forza 3 is going to be enough with a couple of 9+ rated games.

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#46 Munasha
Member since 2004 • 459 Posts

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="bphan"]

People can talk. At the end of the day, the PS3 is and will continue to always be in last place.

Phoenix534

Can you please tell me how you know this? do you see the future by any chance?

Like so many others one this site, it seems he has a time machine.

PS3 haters seem to have time machines.

2007 PS3 has no games

2008 PS3 is doomed its no one will buy it

2009 it will always be in last place

2011 the Xbox will catch up again:D

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#47 SpinoRaptor24
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In terms of exclusives the 360 has been lacking. GTAIV TLAD, Halo ODST and Shadow Complex are the only 360 exclusives that I've really enjoyed this year (most of which are DLC)

Though I've had plenty of great multiplats to enjoy.

Hopefully the 360 can gain its momentum back with Forza 3 and GTAIV EFLC.

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#48 TintedEyes
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All Im saying is this is not even close to the extreme hate the PS3 got when it first came out up until early 2008.
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#49 bphan
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[QUOTE="bphan"]

People can talk. At the end of the day, the PS3 is and will continue to always be in last place.

MJPK

ok and how do u know this?

Because there is no way Sony can make up a 10 million difference in the several remaining years of this gen. The only way is if Xbox 360 stops selling entirely.

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#50 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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It's the console bashing cycle. When this gets old, it will switch to Wii or if a PS3 game flops, it will get ridiculed. Like the famous saying goes "System Wars is entirely about rubbing it in."