Eh, Jeff could just be hyping the show.
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]MGS4 is hailed as the greatest game ever, every new Mario game is met with wet pants, and yet a 4th Halo game is milkage. Love the hypocrisy. How long has the MGS series spanned...over 10 years is it. And everyone tells a new story, as well as contain new gameplay features. Mario has spanned nearly 100 years i think (it started out as a pack of card in early C20). And its games vary significantly, but not alienatingly. Halo has spanned only 8 years? And it hasn't really changed since CE, plus CE was the best! Same goes for COD. Milkage isn't how long something lasts, but how much they rehash for easy cash.Reach for the milkage
SpruceCaboose
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="VGCReporter"] That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those factsVGCReporter
GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.
What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?
I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.
GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT game The PS3 has sold less than PS2 because everyone is waiting for GT5... Isn't it obvious.[QUOTE="VGCReporter"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT game The PS3 has sold less than PS2 because everyone is waiting for GT5... Isn't it obvious.GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.
What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?
I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.
tirralirra
joke... right :question:
The PS3 has sold less than PS2 because everyone is waiting for GT5... Isn't it obvious.[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="VGCReporter"] GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT gamescarface_dm
joke... right :question:
No actually. I mean, sure, it won't be as big a system seller as other years, mainly due to its late late release, but trust me, people go crazy for this game. Something Forza will have to wait for because in terms of the public eye, GT still overpowers ForzaReach for the milkage
MGS4 is hailed as the greatest game ever, every new Mario game is met with wet pants, and yet a 4th Halo game is milkage. Love the hypocrisy. How long has the MGS series spanned...over 10 years is it. And everyone tells a new story, as well as contain new gameplay features. Mario has spanned nearly 100 years i think (it started out as a pack of card in early C20). And its games vary significantly, but not alienatingly. Halo has spanned only 8 years? And it hasn't really changed since CE, plus CE was the best! Same goes for COD. Milkage isn't how long something lasts, but how much they rehash for easy cash. I stopped reading when you were implying that Mario has spanned 100 years when he first appeared in Donkey Kong. :|Sig worthythen by all means...sig it I don't know how :([QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]
[QUOTE="Revolution316"]
halo reach the biggest game in 2010? GT5 is the biggest game. GT5 is the most expensive game ever made. 60 mil. and it will sell more then reach
Revolution316
No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.waynehead895There won't be any flood on Reach. It's impossible based off the books.
I really haven't had a positive experience with any Halo games, except the first one. All the others have pretty much been a disappointment. So I except to be let down again really.
There won't be any flood on Reach. It's impossible based off the books.[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="waynehead895"]No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.Espada12
This is the first battle ever right?
Not the first, but the biggest.There won't be any flood on Reach. It's impossible based off the books.[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="waynehead895"]No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.Espada12
This is the first battle ever right?
As far as the war with the Covenant goes, the first contact on Harvest was the first battle. Reach is the biggest however.Even a juggernaut franchise like Halo could use some help when backed against the wall by games like GT5 and God of War III, Reach is at this point the best hope for a stellar 360 exclusive in 2010.
[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] MGS4 is hailed as the greatest game ever, every new Mario game is met with wet pants, and yet a 4th Halo game is milkage. Love the hypocrisy. SpiritOfFire117How long has the MGS series spanned...over 10 years is it. And everyone tells a new story, as well as contain new gameplay features. Mario has spanned nearly 100 years i think (it started out as a pack of card in early C20). And its games vary significantly, but not alienatingly. Halo has spanned only 8 years? And it hasn't really changed since CE, plus CE was the best! Same goes for COD. Milkage isn't how long something lasts, but how much they rehash for easy cash. I stopped reading when you were implying that Mario has spanned 100 years when he first appeared in Donkey Kong. :|I like how 10 years warrants respect but 9 (Reach comes out next year) is too short? And dual wield, and vehicle jacking were new mechanics in Halo 2; breaking turrets and portable deployable shielding were new mechanics in Halo 3. Snake moved almost the same in all MGS until 4. I love, love MGS, but this non sense about gameplay mechanics smells like fanboy.
To those who are skeptical about Reach because "It won't change much", is change REALLY worth it? I mean, change to certain franchises (Banjo-Kazooie) could cause the franchise to crash & burn, it could also tarnish the Developer's reputation. I mean, I'm not against ADDING & IMPROVING (Banjo-Tooie for example), but COMPLETE CHANGE could be VERY bad. Just sayin'.
I think Keighley got too excited."I think it's going to be the biggest game of next year by far" yea, ok....more like best selling game of next year by far
[QUOTE="h575309"] At least give Bungie the benefit of the doubt. They have made quality games in the past, and Im sure they would want the last in the Halo fps franchise to go out with a bang. foxhound_fox
They never said it 3 was the last game. they said it was the last of MC's story line. Which obviously was true, since he was not on Reach in the book.
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[QUOTE="h575309"] At least give Bungie the benefit of the doubt. They have made quality games in the past, and Im sure they would want the last in the Halo fps franchise to go out with a bang. TBoogy
They never said it 3 was the last game. they said it was the last of MC's story line. Which obviously was true, since he was not on Reach in the book.
Don't try arguing with this chap. He's a bit...disagreeable on ALOT of points...he means to say they are just leaping and its going to be huge... doesn't mean forward or backward, perhaps off into far left field? :DHuge leap from Halo 3 ODST? Huge leap from anything on the market? Huge leap from what exactly Keighley!?
W1NGMAN-
People bringing up GT5 like they have proof that it will sell like its predecessors. Bare in mind that we haven't had a real GT game since 2005 and guess what? The Forza franchise has pushed the genre forward since then, so why would GT5 be this huge savior. The reason GT has been so popular is because it didn't have a rival on consoles, even back in 1998 when GT1 launched. People still love Halo because it is traditional - The greatest evolution of tradition and it's currently the king of what it does. Gran Turismo? How can you accurately say when we wouldn't have had a GT game in FIVE YEARS once GT5 launches.VadameeGT5 is going to sell 8 million whether you like it or not. Just like halo reach is going to sell 8 million whether cows like it or not. This is a fact. Even if you like forza 3 more. Doesn't matter that forza 3 is a smaller franchise and has never and will never sell the same as Gran turismo series. GT5 prologue a demo had better first month sales than forza 3.
Jeff is from Gametrailers, not a Bungie dev. I am sure that Halo:REACH it will be the best game of all time and the best FPS game........i can't wait for that.[QUOTE="lightleggy"]whatever you say jeff.... jezz every single dev says that their game will be the best game of all timeAvian005
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[QUOTE="h575309"] At least give Bungie the benefit of the doubt. They have made quality games in the past, and Im sure they would want the last in the Halo fps franchise to go out with a bang. TBoogy
They never said it 3 was the last game. they said it was the last of MC's story line. Which obviously was true, since he was not on Reach in the book.
Yes, he was.
700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.
Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:
HAZE-Unit
You mean 27 pages, or 6 pages if you have your settings set to 50 posts per page. Also, not all the posts within this thread have been about the trailer itself -- but Jeff's wording. Discussion about the future of how Halo Reach will play out. I'm not sure what the big deal is, Halo is a popular subject all across the board here from every fanboy base.
There's been countless number of threads bashing Halo in general. And you're bothered by one thread with a mere few hundred posts in it? Many of the posts dominated by multiple users. You can equate a few hundred posts to why it sells millions? Did I read that right? Doesn't evolve one bit? Is that supposed to be some kind of bait to see how many users can come at you? I surely hope you weren't being serious in saying that.
Lemmings have always paraded on graphics when one of their games looks good. Gears of War ring a bell?
:lol: And the Reach damage control starts. A year early too700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.
Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:
HAZE-Unit
[QUOTE="heybooboo19"][QUOTE="VGCReporter"] GT5 may be more expensive, but it wont come remotely close to selling in the region of ReachVGCReporter
I doubt that. In fact, it's almost a given it will sell more.
That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those factsNo, it's like saying what I said. KZ isn't the sales equivalent to the franchise and neither is a Halo along the lines of a ODST or Reach. Anyone who has a sliver of rationale wouldn't expect a game with no media or marketing to outsell a franchise that averages 10 million a game, peaked at 14 +, and hasn't dipped lower than 9.
GT5 is going to sell 8 million whether you like it or not. Just like halo reach is going to sell 8 million whether cows like it or not. This is a fact. Even if you like forza 3 more. Doesn't matter that forza 3 is a smaller franchise and has never and will never sell the same as Gran turismo series. GT5 prologue a demo had better first month sales than forza 3.Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.[QUOTE="Vadamee"]People bringing up GT5 like they have proof that it will sell like its predecessors. Bare in mind that we haven't had a real GT game since 2005 and guess what? The Forza franchise has pushed the genre forward since then, so why would GT5 be this huge savior. The reason GT has been so popular is because it didn't have a rival on consoles, even back in 1998 when GT1 launched. People still love Halo because it is traditional - The greatest evolution of tradition and it's currently the king of what it does. Gran Turismo? How can you accurately say when we wouldn't have had a GT game in FIVE YEARS once GT5 launches.nhh18
Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.
slipknot0129
Was that sarcasm?
If not, then how on Earth could you know?
Main iterations of GT games sell very well, and GT5: Prologue sold around 4 million.
[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]:lol: And the Reach damage control starts. A year early tooDoubt it. The same type of threads were made with Halo OSTD. Anybody who wants to play Halo already has a 360. ;)700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.
Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:
Nidget
[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]
Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.
lundy86_4
Was that sarcasm?
If not, then how on Earth could you know?
Main iterations of GT games sell very well, and GT5: Prologue sold around 4 million.
Forza 3 sold 1.5 million, I doubt gt5 will do much better since games sell less on ps3.If they add the kind of intense action that Halo needs to this new engine, then I actually care more about this game. Until they show gameplay, there should be nothing said about how amazing it will be, etc.
It's really the lack of intensity or immersivenessthat really keeps me away from enjoying Halo games. Uncharted 2 was such a visceral experience that it's going to tough to even be up to par with that. Killzone 2 definitely as the immersiveness that we should be seeing in all next gen games. Mass Effect does it better too. I can list off more and more games too.
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]
Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.
slipknot0129
Was that sarcasm?
If not, then how on Earth could you know?
Main iterations of GT games sell very well, and GT5: Prologue sold around 4 million.
Forza 3 sold 1.5 million, I doubt gt5 will do much better since games sell less on ps3.Yet the Prologue to the game sold almost 4 million.
It stands to reason that GT5 will sell similarly.
Comparing two racing games across seperate platforms makes less sense than comparing to a racing game of the same franchise, on the same platform.
[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Doubt it. The same type of threads were made with Halo OSTD. Anybody who wants to play Halo already has a 360. ;) HaHa "Halo OSTD" I can't tell if that was a poor, immature attempt at bashing or just a mispronounciation from an uninformed user. :POoops! Did I spell it wrong? :)[QUOTE="Nidget"]:lol: And the Reach damage control starts. A year early tooSpiritOfFire117
[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]Sig worthy Agreed. Someone do it.[QUOTE="Revolution316"]
halo reach the biggest game in 2010? GT5 is the biggest game. GT5 is the most expensive game ever made. 60 mil. and it will sell more then reach
Lethalhazard
Why quote him in sigs? He is probably right, considering that GT is a much more established franchise than Halo.
[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Doubt it. The same type of threads were made with Halo OSTD. Anybody who wants to play Halo already has a 360. ;)
HaHa "Halo OSTD" I can't tell if that was a poor, immature attempt at bashing or just a mispronounciation from an uninformed user. :POoops! Did I spell it wrong? :) Now he's playing cute. ;)You have got to be kidding me. One thread on Halo Reach after the literally hundreds of Uncharted 2 and graphics king threads and so forth and you talk about how bad "lemmings" are when most of the discussion has been back and forth about Halo to begin with?!700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.
Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:
HAZE-Unit
If you don't put a ":P" or a spoiler saying you're joking, how do you expect people to take that? :?I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P
HAZE-Unit
[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you don't put a ":P" or a spoiler saying you're joking, how do you expect people to take that? :? Agreed, and sorry.I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P
Stevo_the_gamer
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]If you don't put a ":P" or a spoiler saying you're joking, how do you expect people to take that? :? Agreed, and sorry.I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P
SpruceCaboose
nah it's ok, but I was bored and I was like "how about making things more entertaining ?"
And a smily wouldn't do it, unfortunately, the wrong people replied to me and you are friends with me so whatever :P
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