Jeff Keighley: "Halo Reach will be a huge leap forward"

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#251 darkmoney52
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Eh, Jeff could just be hyping the show.

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#252 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

Reach for the milkage

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MGS4 is hailed as the greatest game ever, every new Mario game is met with wet pants, and yet a 4th Halo game is milkage. Love the hypocrisy.

How long has the MGS series spanned...over 10 years is it. And everyone tells a new story, as well as contain new gameplay features. Mario has spanned nearly 100 years i think (it started out as a pack of card in early C20). And its games vary significantly, but not alienatingly. Halo has spanned only 8 years? And it hasn't really changed since CE, plus CE was the best! Same goes for COD. Milkage isn't how long something lasts, but how much they rehash for easy cash.
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#253 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="VGCReporter"] That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those factsVGCReporter

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT game

The PS3 has sold less than PS2 because everyone is waiting for GT5... Isn't it obvious.
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#254 scarface_dm
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

tirralirra

GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT game

The PS3 has sold less than PS2 because everyone is waiting for GT5... Isn't it obvious.

joke... right :question:

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#255 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="VGCReporter"] GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT gamescarface_dm

The PS3 has sold less than PS2 because everyone is waiting for GT5... Isn't it obvious.

joke... right :question:

No actually. I mean, sure, it won't be as big a system seller as other years, mainly due to its late late release, but trust me, people go crazy for this game. Something Forza will have to wait for because in terms of the public eye, GT still overpowers Forza
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#256 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

Reach for the milkage

MGS4 is hailed as the greatest game ever, every new Mario game is met with wet pants, and yet a 4th Halo game is milkage. Love the hypocrisy.

How long has the MGS series spanned...over 10 years is it. And everyone tells a new story, as well as contain new gameplay features. Mario has spanned nearly 100 years i think (it started out as a pack of card in early C20). And its games vary significantly, but not alienatingly. Halo has spanned only 8 years? And it hasn't really changed since CE, plus CE was the best! Same goes for COD. Milkage isn't how long something lasts, but how much they rehash for easy cash.

I stopped reading when you were implying that Mario has spanned 100 years when he first appeared in Donkey Kong. :|
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#257 C_BozkurT_C
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[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

halo reach the biggest game in 2010? GT5 is the biggest game. GT5 is the most expensive game ever made. 60 mil. and it will sell more then reach

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#258 waynehead895
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No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.
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#259 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.waynehead895
There won't be any flood on Reach. It's impossible based off the books.
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#260 -Ninja_Dog-
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I really haven't had a positive experience with any Halo games, except the first one. All the others have pretty much been a disappointment. So I except to be let down again really.

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#261 Espada12
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.Stevo_the_gamer
There won't be any flood on Reach. It's impossible based off the books.

This is the first battle ever right?

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#262 ujjval16
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="waynehead895"]No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.Espada12

There won't be any flood on Reach. It's impossible based off the books.

This is the first battle ever right?

Not the first, but the biggest.

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#263 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="waynehead895"]No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.Espada12

There won't be any flood on Reach. It's impossible based off the books.

This is the first battle ever right?

As far as the war with the Covenant goes, the first contact on Harvest was the first battle. Reach is the biggest however.
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#264 SPYDER0416
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Even a juggernaut franchise like Halo could use some help when backed against the wall by games like GT5 and God of War III, Reach is at this point the best hope for a stellar 360 exclusive in 2010.

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#265 Toriko42
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I'll watch the show just for the announcements I expect dopeness but Keighley has disappointed me in the past
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#266 Vadamee
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People bringing up GT5 like they have proof that it will sell like its predecessors. Bare in mind that we haven't had a real GT game since 2005 and guess what? The Forza franchise has pushed the genre forward since then, so why would GT5 be this huge savior. The reason GT has been so popular is because it didn't have a rival on consoles, even back in 1998 when GT1 launched. People still love Halo because it is traditional - The greatest evolution of tradition and it's currently the king of what it does. Gran Turismo? How can you accurately say when we wouldn't have had a GT game in FIVE YEARS once GT5 launches.
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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] MGS4 is hailed as the greatest game ever, every new Mario game is met with wet pants, and yet a 4th Halo game is milkage. Love the hypocrisy. SpiritOfFire117
How long has the MGS series spanned...over 10 years is it. And everyone tells a new story, as well as contain new gameplay features. Mario has spanned nearly 100 years i think (it started out as a pack of card in early C20). And its games vary significantly, but not alienatingly. Halo has spanned only 8 years? And it hasn't really changed since CE, plus CE was the best! Same goes for COD. Milkage isn't how long something lasts, but how much they rehash for easy cash.

I stopped reading when you were implying that Mario has spanned 100 years when he first appeared in Donkey Kong. :|

I like how 10 years warrants respect but 9 (Reach comes out next year) is too short? And dual wield, and vehicle jacking were new mechanics in Halo 2; breaking turrets and portable deployable shielding were new mechanics in Halo 3. Snake moved almost the same in all MGS until 4. I love, love MGS, but this non sense about gameplay mechanics smells like fanboy.
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#268 gmc2u_64
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To those who are skeptical about Reach because "It won't change much", is change REALLY worth it? I mean, change to certain franchises (Banjo-Kazooie) could cause the franchise to crash & burn, it could also tarnish the Developer's reputation. I mean, I'm not against ADDING & IMPROVING (Banjo-Tooie for example), but COMPLETE CHANGE could be VERY bad. Just sayin'.

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#269 reynal1287
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I think Keighley got too excited."I think it's going to be the biggest game of next year by far" yea, ok....more like best selling game of next year by far

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#270 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="h575309"] At least give Bungie the benefit of the doubt. They have made quality games in the past, and Im sure they would want the last in the Halo fps franchise to go out with a bang. foxhound_fox


And here I thought Halo 3 was supposed to be the "last" game in Bungie's franchise.

I can't give Bungie the benefit of the doubt, because all they've ever really shown me is the ability to take old ideas, streamline them together well and not actually come up with anything new or ground-breaking. I, unlike most people, will remain sceptical.

They never said it 3 was the last game. they said it was the last of MC's story line. Which obviously was true, since he was not on Reach in the book.

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#271 gmc2u_64
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] At least give Bungie the benefit of the doubt. They have made quality games in the past, and Im sure they would want the last in the Halo fps franchise to go out with a bang. TBoogy


And here I thought Halo 3 was supposed to be the "last" game in Bungie's franchise.

I can't give Bungie the benefit of the doubt, because all they've ever really shown me is the ability to take old ideas, streamline them together well and not actually come up with anything new or ground-breaking. I, unlike most people, will remain sceptical.

They never said it 3 was the last game. they said it was the last of MC's story line. Which obviously was true, since he was not on Reach in the book.

Don't try arguing with this chap. He's a bit...disagreeable on ALOT of points...

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#272 biggest_loser
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A huge leap forward to what? The bank?!
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#273 ColdfireTrilogy
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Huge leap from Halo 3 ODST? Huge leap from anything on the market? Huge leap from what exactly Keighley!?

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he means to say they are just leaping and its going to be huge... doesn't mean forward or backward, perhaps off into far left field? :D
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#274 nhh18
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People bringing up GT5 like they have proof that it will sell like its predecessors. Bare in mind that we haven't had a real GT game since 2005 and guess what? The Forza franchise has pushed the genre forward since then, so why would GT5 be this huge savior. The reason GT has been so popular is because it didn't have a rival on consoles, even back in 1998 when GT1 launched. People still love Halo because it is traditional - The greatest evolution of tradition and it's currently the king of what it does. Gran Turismo? How can you accurately say when we wouldn't have had a GT game in FIVE YEARS once GT5 launches.Vadamee
GT5 is going to sell 8 million whether you like it or not. Just like halo reach is going to sell 8 million whether cows like it or not. This is a fact. Even if you like forza 3 more. Doesn't matter that forza 3 is a smaller franchise and has never and will never sell the same as Gran turismo series. GT5 prologue a demo had better first month sales than forza 3.

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#275 Panosola
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]whatever you say jeff.... jezz every single dev says that their game will be the best game of all timeAvian005

Jeff is from Gametrailers, not a Bungie dev.

I am sure that Halo:REACH it will be the best game of all time and the best FPS game........i can't wait for that.
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#276 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="h575309"] At least give Bungie the benefit of the doubt. They have made quality games in the past, and Im sure they would want the last in the Halo fps franchise to go out with a bang. TBoogy


And here I thought Halo 3 was supposed to be the "last" game in Bungie's franchise.

I can't give Bungie the benefit of the doubt, because all they've ever really shown me is the ability to take old ideas, streamline them together well and not actually come up with anything new or ground-breaking. I, unlike most people, will remain sceptical.

They never said it 3 was the last game. they said it was the last of MC's story line. Which obviously was true, since he was not on Reach in the book.

Yes, he was.

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#277 HAZE-Unit
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700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.

Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:

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700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.

Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:

HAZE-Unit

You mean 27 pages, or 6 pages if you have your settings set to 50 posts per page. Also, not all the posts within this thread have been about the trailer itself -- but Jeff's wording. Discussion about the future of how Halo Reach will play out. I'm not sure what the big deal is, Halo is a popular subject all across the board here from every fanboy base.

There's been countless number of threads bashing Halo in general. And you're bothered by one thread with a mere few hundred posts in it? Many of the posts dominated by multiple users. You can equate a few hundred posts to why it sells millions? Did I read that right? Doesn't evolve one bit? Is that supposed to be some kind of bait to see how many users can come at you? I surely hope you weren't being serious in saying that.

Lemmings have always paraded on graphics when one of their games looks good. Gears of War ring a bell?

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#279 Nidget
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700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.

Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:

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:lol: And the Reach damage control starts. A year early too
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#280 heybooboo19
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"] GT5 may be more expensive, but it wont come remotely close to selling in the region of ReachVGCReporter

I doubt that. In fact, it's almost a given it will sell more.

That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those facts

No, it's like saying what I said. KZ isn't the sales equivalent to the franchise and neither is a Halo along the lines of a ODST or Reach. Anyone who has a sliver of rationale wouldn't expect a game with no media or marketing to outsell a franchise that averages 10 million a game, peaked at 14 +, and hasn't dipped lower than 9.

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[QUOTE="Vadamee"]People bringing up GT5 like they have proof that it will sell like its predecessors. Bare in mind that we haven't had a real GT game since 2005 and guess what? The Forza franchise has pushed the genre forward since then, so why would GT5 be this huge savior. The reason GT has been so popular is because it didn't have a rival on consoles, even back in 1998 when GT1 launched. People still love Halo because it is traditional - The greatest evolution of tradition and it's currently the king of what it does. Gran Turismo? How can you accurately say when we wouldn't have had a GT game in FIVE YEARS once GT5 launches.nhh18

GT5 is going to sell 8 million whether you like it or not. Just like halo reach is going to sell 8 million whether cows like it or not. This is a fact. Even if you like forza 3 more. Doesn't matter that forza 3 is a smaller franchise and has never and will never sell the same as Gran turismo series. GT5 prologue a demo had better first month sales than forza 3.

Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.

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#282 lundy86_4
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Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.

slipknot0129

Was that sarcasm?

If not, then how on Earth could you know?

Main iterations of GT games sell very well, and GT5: Prologue sold around 4 million.

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#283 furomaster_99
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.

Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:

Nidget

:lol: And the Reach damage control starts. A year early too

Doubt it. The same type of threads were made with Halo OSTD. Anybody who wants to play Halo already has a 360. ;)

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#285 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.

lundy86_4

Was that sarcasm?

If not, then how on Earth could you know?

Main iterations of GT games sell very well, and GT5: Prologue sold around 4 million.

Forza 3 sold 1.5 million, I doubt gt5 will do much better since games sell less on ps3.

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#286 mD-
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If they add the kind of intense action that Halo needs to this new engine, then I actually care more about this game. Until they show gameplay, there should be nothing said about how amazing it will be, etc.

It's really the lack of intensity or immersivenessthat really keeps me away from enjoying Halo games. Uncharted 2 was such a visceral experience that it's going to tough to even be up to par with that. Killzone 2 definitely as the immersiveness that we should be seeing in all next gen games. Mass Effect does it better too. I can list off more and more games too.

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#287 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Gt5 will sell about a million or two whether you like it or not and halo reach will sell 15 million whether you like it or not.

slipknot0129

Was that sarcasm?

If not, then how on Earth could you know?

Main iterations of GT games sell very well, and GT5: Prologue sold around 4 million.

Forza 3 sold 1.5 million, I doubt gt5 will do much better since games sell less on ps3.

Yet the Prologue to the game sold almost 4 million.

It stands to reason that GT5 will sell similarly.

Comparing two racing games across seperate platforms makes less sense than comparing to a racing game of the same franchise, on the same platform.

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#288 furomaster_99
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="Nidget"]:lol: And the Reach damage control starts. A year early tooSpiritOfFire117

Doubt it. The same type of threads were made with Halo OSTD. Anybody who wants to play Halo already has a 360. ;)

HaHa "Halo OSTD" I can't tell if that was a poor, immature attempt at bashing or just a mispronounciation from an uninformed user. :P

Ooops! Did I spell it wrong? :)

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#289 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

halo reach the biggest game in 2010? GT5 is the biggest game. GT5 is the most expensive game ever made. 60 mil. and it will sell more then reach

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Why quote him in sigs? He is probably right, considering that GT is a much more established franchise than Halo.

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#290 Trmpt
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No flood please. Had enough of them in the first. They are really starting to annoy me now.waynehead895

hahahaha :D

That gave me some lulz.

--

"Damn you flood!... DAMN YOU ALL TOHELLLLLLL!!!"


Related video.

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#291 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Doubt it. The same type of threads were made with Halo OSTD. Anybody who wants to play Halo already has a 360. ;)

HaHa "Halo OSTD" I can't tell if that was a poor, immature attempt at bashing or just a mispronounciation from an uninformed user. :P

Ooops! Did I spell it wrong? :)

Now he's playing cute. ;)
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#292 SpruceCaboose
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700 pages just for a trailer of Halo, lemmings eat anything named Halo.No wonder it sells millions even if it doesn't evolve one bit.

Oh and the hypocrisy, now lemmings love talking about graphics :lol:

HAZE-Unit
You have got to be kidding me. One thread on Halo Reach after the literally hundreds of Uncharted 2 and graphics king threads and so forth and you talk about how bad "lemmings" are when most of the discussion has been back and forth about Halo to begin with?!
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#293 Espada12
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^^ lulz plant of the apes... either way maybe this would be the game to make me get back an xbox.. I hope. I'll even jump on live if it's good enough.

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#294 HAZE-Unit
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I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P

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#295 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P

HAZE-Unit
If you don't put a ":P" or a spoiler saying you're joking, how do you expect people to take that? :?
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#296 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P

Stevo_the_gamer
If you don't put a ":P" or a spoiler saying you're joking, how do you expect people to take that? :?

Agreed, and sorry.
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#297 gmc2u_64
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*Looks around causiosly* Halo Reach is going to be awesome! *A Nuke explodes in my visinity*

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#298 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P

Stevo_the_gamer

If you don't put a ":P" or a spoiler saying you're joking, how do you expect people to take that? :?

I thought it was obvious appeared that it wasn't :P

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#299 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

I was making a SW persona people, give it a rest :P

SpruceCaboose

If you don't put a ":P" or a spoiler saying you're joking, how do you expect people to take that? :?

Agreed, and sorry.

nah it's ok, but I was bored and I was like "how about making things more entertaining ?"

And a smily wouldn't do it, unfortunately, the wrong people replied to me and you are friends with me so whatever :P

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#300 gmc2u_64
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It's funny, the game is ALREADY getting unneeded hate. I mean, is this game kryptonite or something?