Jeff Keighley: "Halo Reach will be a huge leap forward"

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#201 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="tehsystemwarior"]I hope they add sprint.tehsystemwarior
No, sprint would kill the equilibrium with other players. Then again, I wouldn't know if it is the same "equilibrium" from Halo 3 or not.

Kill the what?

Equilibrium. The way you stay equal with other players without having an advantage outside of special weapons and equipment. Even if everyone can sprint, it would throw off the balance you have with another player in a fight.
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#202 Flipyap28
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halo reach the biggest game in 2010? GT5 is the biggest game. GT5 is the most expensive game ever made. 60 mil. and it will sell more then reach

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Doubt it
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#203 PAL360
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16 player co-op please. lolsolidgamer

Its probably too much for game that is supposed to look great. But how knows....Brink looks excelent and have 8 player coop campaign!

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#204 Leejjohno
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I have said it before but I will remain apprehensive; three disappointing FPS games after the first and I think they have yet to make an impression this gen.

I genuinely hope I get more enjoyment out of the next game.

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#205 clone01
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

I have said it before but I will remain apprehensive; three disappointing FPS games after the first and I think they have yet to make an impression this gen.

I genuinely hope I get more enjoyment out of the next game.

well, i think its going to be quite different, considering they're building this one from the round up.
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#206 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="solidgamer"]16 player co-op please. lolPAL360

Its probably too much for game that is supposed to look great. But how knows....Brink looks excelent and have 8 player coop campaign!

The only things that should be affected by player count is lag and map balance.

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#207 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="solidgamer"]16 player co-op please. lolLeejjohno

Its probably too much for game that is supposed to look great. But how knows....Brink looks excelent and have 8 player coop campaign!

The only things that should be affected by player count is lag and map balance.

And of course 4x more enemies, vehicles and bigger maps on screen at the same time to be balanced :P

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#208 Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

I have said it before but I will remain apprehensive; three disappointing FPS games after the first and I think they have yet to make an impression this gen.

I genuinely hope I get more enjoyment out of the next game.

clone01

well, i think its going to be quite different, considering they're building this one from the round up.

That's good I can agree. I just hope they change the formula enough to actually make the game interesting. The biggest problem for me is that Halo 1 introduced game mechanics that were acceptable at the time, but the sequels never really improved on it, they just diluted the shooting mechanics and made enemies slightly less responsive to attack.

ODST for me was an interesting game, but didn't do enough to make it seem as though there was a compromise for playing as a human. My issue is I am not going to enjoy the next game if they don't seriously revamp the gameplay.

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#209 Flipyap28
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....hmmm I just realised something obvious but awesome, One of the things I didnt like about Halo 3 campaign (even though I am one of the few who like it) was that there were no elites to kill (even though it was a good story plot in how they became allies)... this means because Halo Reach is set before 1, we can fight elites... AWESOME. Add that with firefight, and I can see a pretty good challange, brutes in halo 3 fitted their plot descriptions, dumb and inferior to elites. Hopefully the campaign will be a lot more fun anf focused on than Halo 3 was.
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#210 Zain-Midori
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hmmm

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#211 VGCReporter
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why does halo threads always get so many replies
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#212 VGCReporter
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this game probably looks tremendous
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#213 Vandalvideo
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this game probably looks tremendousVGCReporter
Judging by what metric; Bungie's showing the rest of the generation? Hardly anything to indicate tremendous graphics.
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#214 VGCReporter
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halo reach the biggest game in 2010? GT5 is the biggest game. GT5 is the most expensive game ever made. 60 mil. and it will sell more then reach

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GT5 = not even in top 5 :o
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"]this game probably looks tremendousVandalvideo
Judging by what metric; Bungie's showing the rest of the generation? Hardly anything to indicate tremendous graphics.

I meant gameplay, we all know bungie does master gameplay
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#216 Flipyap28
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="VGCReporter"]this game probably looks tremendousVGCReporter
Judging by what metric; Bungie's showing the rest of the generation? Hardly anything to indicate tremendous graphics.

I meant gameplay, we all know bungie does master gameplay

At the end of the day, that is all that matters, what game do you find the funnest. Games shouldn't be taken so seriously.
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[QUOTE="Flipyap28"][QUOTE="VGCReporter"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Judging by what metric; Bungie's showing the rest of the generation? Hardly anything to indicate tremendous graphics.

I meant gameplay, we all know bungie does master gameplay

At the end of the day, that is all that matters, what game do you find the funnest. Games shouldn't be taken so seriously.

otherwise, all would have be playign crysis right? and that game sucks big ..
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#218 dream431ca
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Everybody on board the Hype Train!!....With a cliff just ahead.

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#219 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Flipyap28"] At the end of the day, that is all that matters, what game do you find the funnest. Games shouldn't be taken so seriously.

Actually, different people have different metrics for what makes a good game. Some of us place greater importance on graphics, some sound, and others story. Thats the nature of the beast. The mere fact that the game has good mechanics may be overshadowed by these other areas for some people. As an audiophile, by appreciation of the last Zelda game was greatly hampered due to the horrendous sound quality. Great gameplay mechanics, crappy sound.
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[QUOTE="Flipyap28"] At the end of the day, that is all that matters, what game do you find the funnest. Games shouldn't be taken so seriously.Vandalvideo
Actually, different people have different metrics for what makes a good game. Some of us place greater importance on graphics, some sound, and others story. Thats the nature of the beast. The mere fact that the game has good mechanics may be overshadowed by these other areas for some people. As an audiophile, by appreciation of the last Zelda game was greatly hampered due to the horrendous sound quality. Great gameplay mechanics, crappy sound.

So relating to Halo, you must like the soundtrack very much, hearing in-game music like this:

Never Forget

One Final Effort

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#221 heysharpshooter
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I haven't even touched a Halo game in a year. My brother even has ODST, and I have not played it. However, if Reach is awesome, I will pick it up. I really am not into Halo any more, but I could be again if this game looks good.

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#222 VGCReporter
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I haven't even touched a Halo game in a year. My brother even has ODST, and I have not played it. However, if Reach is awesome, I will pick it up. I really am not into Halo any more, but I could be again if this game looks good.

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Wait. if it looks good or plays good?
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#223 heysharpshooter
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

I haven't even touched a Halo game in a year. My brother even has ODST, and I have not played it. However, if Reach is awesome, I will pick it up. I really am not into Halo any more, but I could be again if this game looks good.

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Wait. if it looks good or plays good?

Since I won't be able to play the game until its released, I have to go off information and videos/trailers to decide if it looks fun.

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#224 cainetao11
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let me paraphrase that for you: PLEASE GOD PLEASE BUY OUR GAME!!!!

btw i didn't even need to watch the vid to come up with that

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I guess that makes sense, Bungie having to beg for a Halo game to sell......
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#225 Flipyap28
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Flipyap28"] At the end of the day, that is all that matters, what game do you find the funnest. Games shouldn't be taken so seriously.

Actually, different people have different metrics for what makes a good game. Some of us place greater importance on graphics, some sound, and others story. Thats the nature of the beast. The mere fact that the game has good mechanics may be overshadowed by these other areas for some people. As an audiophile, by appreciation of the last Zelda game was greatly hampered due to the horrendous sound quality. Great gameplay mechanics, crappy sound.

I never said these things didnt matter, I just said gameplay is the most important factor. Halo would suck without sound, that would be the same for any game. Im just saying if Halo's graphics dont match up to a Beautiful Metal Gear Solid game, it hardly matters as ultimately the gameplay is what matters most. Probably the main reason, why DS is so well recieved (no, not the wii). Its graphics dont need to be top notch to produce good games, for example The World Ends With You, factors such as its good music help contribute to it being a great game but its great gameplay which makes it different from all other RPGS. Graphics will be a big factor Halo Reach but it wont matter as much compared to gameplay.
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

I haven't even touched a Halo game in a year. My brother even has ODST, and I have not played it. However, if Reach is awesome, I will pick it up. I really am not into Halo any more, but I could be again if this game looks good.

heysharpshooter

Wait. if it looks good or plays good?

Since I won't be able to play the game until its released, I have to go off information and videos/trailers to decide if it looks fun.

my question remains unasnwered :)
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[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="Hathesulacon"]Sig worthy

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Agreed. Expensive games =/= good.

i never said it equals good. the jeff guy was sayin reach will be the biggest game in 2010. obviously he mans sells or how much funds it cost to make the game. im saying that GT5 cost much more and will sell more

GT5 may be more expensive, but it wont come remotely close to selling in the region of Reach
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#228 VGCReporter
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

halo reach the biggest game in 2010? GT5 is the biggest game. GT5 is the most expensive game ever made. 60 mil. and it will sell more then reach

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I don't think you understand how massive the Halo fanbase is.

Even though Revolution is a blind fanboy, I think you are also underestimating the GT fanbase. GT is as much a juggernaut in the driving arena as much as Halo is in FPS.

When was the last time a GT game got 1 million unique gamers playing on a daily basis over 2 years after its release?
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#229 VGCReporter
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So far, I haven't seen as much hype for Reach as I did for 3. I wonder if it would get more hype if it was a numbered installment in the series, ie Halo 4?

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Reach will never be as hyped as Halo 3, not matter how good it is, because Halo 3 was the Return of the King, that would end the saga, Believe, Finish the Fight. it was just THE ending. Reach is just another instalment in comparison :)
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#230 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Flipyap28"] I never said these things didnt matter, I just said gameplay is the most important factor. Halo would suck without sound, that would be the same for any game. Im just saying if Halo's graphics dont match up to a Beautiful Metal Gear Solid game, it hardly matters as ultimately the gameplay is what matters most. Probably the main reason, why DS is so well recieved (no, not the wii). Its graphics dont need to be top notch to produce good games, for example The World Ends With You, factors such as its good music help contribute to it being a great game but its great gameplay which makes it different from all other RPGS. Graphics will be a big factor Halo Reach but it wont matter as much compared to gameplay.

Most important is definitely an opinion, and I can easily argue that sound or story is more important for myself than gameplay mechanics .Merely because it is the most important for you does not mean that it is objectively the most important factor. Story, for me personally, is the greatest factor of all. I've never really been a fan of Bladeruu...I mean Halo. It all boils down to opinion. Even if I granted that gameplay was the most important factor, I could easily debate the quality of the mechanics. The level design of Bungie drives me crazy; with Cortana making me want to donkey punch the developers.
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So relating to Halo, you must like the soundtrack very much, hearing in-game music like this:siddhu33
Audiophiles are more concentrated on the technical aspects of sound than they are the musical score of a game. But even then, I liked the Halo score. It wasn't Suikoden or Silent Hill good, but it was good.
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]So relating to Halo, you must like the soundtrack very much, hearing in-game music like this:Vandalvideo
Audiophiles are more concentrated on the technical aspects of sound than they are the musical score of a game. But even then, I liked the Halo score. It wasn't Suikoden or Silent Hill good, but it was good.

It was basically best in gaming for me
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#233 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"] It was basically best in gaming for me

I question how many games you've really played to say that. Halo ranks below Wild Arms, Suikoden, Silent Hill, Disgaea, The Longest Journey, and a few other games for myself.
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#234 Espada12
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Wish it were on PS3. Oh well... I could always pay to fix my 360 then I buy a new HDD but it will RROD, so I better just buy a new one.

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#235 lightleggy
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whatever you say jeff.... jezz every single dev says that their game will be the best game of all time
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#236 67gt500
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[QUOTE="67gt500"][QUOTE="clone01"] i would disagree. look at assassin's creed 2. it looks great. granted, not quite as good as uc2, but its also a much more open world game. and the reason people still talk about halo is that its a great multiplayer game. personally, i thought odst was a fantastic campaign experience. i think, at the end of the day, the ps3 might have a bit more under the hood, but the systems are just about equal.Chutebox
Big lol @mjfan2000 - Reach will look at least as good as UC2 and probably even better... cows are always good for a good laugh around here, so thanks for that... and I agree that ACII looks great, considering the sheer size and scope of the game, it looks and runs beautifully (well, at least on 360 anyway)

What do you base that off of? Very interested to know.

When the devs and the press feel compelled to point out that the footage isn't CG or Live-Action and use rhetoric like "huge leap forward" the implication is 'you haven't seen anything like this on this console to date'... but I digress - we'll just have to check out the footage for ourselves...

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]whatever you say jeff.... jezz every single dev says that their game will be the best game of all time

jeff isn't a developer
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#238 Avian005
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I think 2010 is too soon. Unless that's why ODST is so short. They were focusing on Reach?LOXO7
Yes,a small team made ODST, but a bigger team (including the small team) have been developing Halo: Reach after Halo 3. Then they'll make they're new IP after Reach.

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#239 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]whatever you say jeff.... jezz every single dev says that their game will be the best game of all time

jeff isn't a developer

yeah but you get what I mean...
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#240 Avian005
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whatever you say jeff.... jezz every single dev says that their game will be the best game of all timelightleggy
Jeff is from Gametrailers, not a Bungie dev.

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#241 VGCReporter
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]whatever you say jeff.... jezz every single dev says that their game will be the best game of all timeAvian005

Jeff is from Gametrailers, not a Bungie dev.

hahahaha.
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[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

Agreed. Expensive games =/= good.

VGCReporter

i never said it equals good. the jeff guy was sayin reach will be the biggest game in 2010. obviously he mans sells or how much funds it cost to make the game. im saying that GT5 cost much more and will sell more

GT5 may be more expensive, but it wont come remotely close to selling in the region of Reach

I doubt that. In fact, it's almost a given it will sell more.

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#243 VGCReporter
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"][QUOTE="Revolution316"]i never said it equals good. the jeff guy was sayin reach will be the biggest game in 2010. obviously he mans sells or how much funds it cost to make the game. im saying that GT5 cost much more and will sell more

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GT5 may be more expensive, but it wont come remotely close to selling in the region of Reach

I doubt that. In fact, it's almost a given it will sell more.

That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those facts
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[QUOTE="heybooboo19"]

[QUOTE="VGCReporter"] GT5 may be more expensive, but it wont come remotely close to selling in the region of ReachVGCReporter

I doubt that. In fact, it's almost a given it will sell more.

That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those facts

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

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#245 VGCReporter
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"][QUOTE="heybooboo19"]

I doubt that. In fact, it's almost a given it will sell more.

lundy86_4

That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those facts

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT game
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#246 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="VGCReporter"] That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those factsVGCReporter

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

GT5 will not sell like previous instalments simply because the PS3 has sold a lot less than the PS2. remember GT is the first main PS3 GT game

Maybe. Maybe not.

GT5: Prologue sold around 4 million copies.

It may sell very well.

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#247 scarface_dm
Member since 2009 • 1652 Posts

WoW this game just shot up to on my most anticipated game list, ALAN WAKE & HALO:REACH is all I will need in 2010!!!!!!!!:D

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#248 scarface_dm
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[QUOTE="VGCReporter"][QUOTE="heybooboo19"]

I doubt that. In fact, it's almost a given it will sell more.

lundy86_4

That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those facts

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

I seriously doubt a racing simwould sell as much as Halo:Reach an fps game, thats just crazy talk lol

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#249 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="VGCReporter"] That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those factsscarface_dm

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

I seriously doubt a racing simwould sell as much as Halo:Reach an fps game, thats just crazy talk lol

I think Reach will sell more, however GT games have a proven track record of selling exceptinally well.

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#250 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="VGCReporter"] That's like saying killzone 2 will outsell halo 3. GT is not on PS2 anymore, face those factsscarface_dm

GT has sold well from the PS1 to the PS2 and then to the PS3 with Prologue.

What are you talking about, it's not as if it just sold well on PS2 :?

I think GT and Halo: Reach will sell relatively close, though Halo will get the edge.

I seriously doubt a racing sim can even would sell as much as Halo an fps game, thats just crazy talk lol

GT sales are traditionally high and I expect GT5 to sell well also. But the fact is the game market has changed. FPS seem to be the big genre now and I think Reach will outsell GT5 in '10. Whether it has the legs of a GT title remains to be seen.