Jonathan Blow Talks PS4 hardware: equivalent game will run faster than PC

and it's not what you think it is :P

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/12/jonathan-blow-talks-ps4-hardware-equivalent-game-will-run-faster-than-pc/?mtc=comment-388292#comment-388292

From the sounds of it, hes impressed, saying that the equivalent game will run faster. Lets couch that in a heavy caveat before you rise up in righteous fury: Blows area of interest is less in how many raw explosions a GPU can push into your eyes. For The Witnesswere mostly interested in the base machine and how fast it is the fact it has faster RAM than a PC.

[RAM] really helps in shuttling graphics resources around, and since its not running a heavyweight operating system like Windows that gets in the way of your graphics, Blow says. Rendering stuff through Windows has an impact on performance. Since a console is just about games, that doesnt happen, and the equivalent game will run faster. And if you can target to specific hardware you can make it run faster, too.

it's cause of the RAMMMMM!!!!

THANK YOU SONY!

"True to my religion, two everything I'm too different
So when I die, bury me next to two b*tches"

"She got a big booty so I call her Big Booty"

"All I want for my birthday is a big booty ho"

-Sir Tauheed Epps the Great 

This thread is now about one of the wisest philosophers of our time, Sir Tauheed Epps the great.

Good luck will come to you, but only if you post "Thank you Tauheed" .....or ...."Truuuuu" on this thread. 

god bless sony. The true pioneers of gamingcampzor

Every PC gamer must know and admit that it's not the cpu or gpu that makes a performance difference, it's the speed of the RAM. CPUs and GPUs are just there for asthetic purposes.

So far, only praise from developers ... Next gen will be great :D

Watch out, you dont want to upset those PC nerds.

Watch out, you dont want to upset those PC nerds.

Karpetburnz

Indeed.

At 30FPS? LOLfaizan_faizan

Welp.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I think you guys spend more time talking about the PS4's memory than we do.zeeshanhaider

Okay! Thanks for showing me the light. The first thing I do when I get bach at home is burn my PC and then save those ashes to shower over the PS4 when I buy one.

don't burn it, recycle it you stupid btvh! Remember about Global Warming, stop polluting the planet by burning your garbage PC.

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

Cows should be renamed to monkeys this gen because PS4 is not even released yet, but they don´t stop running arround SW yelling out load "ouh ouh GDDR5 ouh ouh 8GB" and don´t stop throwing their feces at everyone who passes by :lol:

At 30FPS? LOLfaizan_faizan

Cows should be renamed to monkeys this gen because PS4 is not even released yet, but they don´t stop running arround SW yelling out load "ouh ouh GDDR5 ouh ouh 8GB" and don´t stop throwing their feces at everyone who passes by :lol:

jhonMalcovich

Truuuuuu

At 30FPS? LOLfaizan_faizan

nice

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Cows should be renamed to monkeys this gen because PS4 is not even released yet, but they don´t stop running arround SW yelling out load "ouh ouh GDDR5 ouh ouh 8GB" and don´t stop throwing their feces at everyone who passes by :lol:

lowe0

It´s not addressed to OP or to anyone in particular. Just my thought about cows/monkeys.

Well it has always been like that so....

and it's not what you think it is :P

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/12/jonathan-blow-talks-ps4-hardware-equivalent-game-will-run-faster-than-pc/?mtc=comment-388292#comment-388292

From the sounds of it, hes impressed, saying that the equivalent game will run faster. Lets couch that in a heavy caveat before you rise up in righteous fury: Blows area of interest is less in how many raw explosions a GPU can push into your eyes. For The Witnesswere mostly interested in the base machine and how fast it is the fact it has faster RAM than a PC.

[RAM] really helps in shuttling graphics resources around, and since its not running a heavyweight operating system like Windows that gets in the way of your graphics, Blow says. Rendering stuff through Windows has an impact on performance. Since a console is just about games, that doesnt happen, and the equivalent game will run faster. And if you can target to specific hardware you can make it run faster, too.

it's cause of the RAMMMMM!!!!

THANK YOU SONY!

NoodleFighter

For the PC, AMD pushing HSA for games http://www.slideshare.net/zlatan4177/gpgpu-algorithms-in-games

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20130305060258_AMD_s_Fusion_Kaveri_APU_Supports_GDDR5_Memory_Report.html

AMD also pushing for GDDR5 as the main system memory for the PC.

JEDEC has a new SODIMM standard that has both DDR4 and GDDR5M.

As the inventor for GDDR standard, AMD leads the JEDEC committee on GDDR6 http://vr-zone.com/articles/gddr6-memory-coming-in-2014/16359.html

All of the critical hardware IP in PS4 belongs to AMD.

Of course. But it's still static hardware. No matter how awesome it is, PC hardware will sooner or later race past it and no ammount of close to metal coding will allow PS4 to keep up.

Thank you Kaz and thank you Sony.

Optimization includes using less and or lower quality assets for set standards. The hardware in the console is mid ranged even before it releases its not like last generation where the hardware was on par or faster then what was available for pc. this time around consoles have already lost the battle before it even started. Also the hardware "gpu" will not run faster because AMD is introducing the same HSA coding to Pc and the cpu is the deciding factor how well the system performs which means if you have a modern 3 ghz quad core cpu or better with a overclocked 7850 or 7870 it will match or surpass the PS4 abilities that are locked at 30 fps.04dcarraher

So far, every single dev has been praising PS4 hardware.....Impressive!

Hurry up with the EU launch, Sony, i won't be waiting until 2014, and i'm sure many are in the same boat as me :evil:

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Optimization includes using less and or lower quality assets for set standards. The hardware in the console is mid ranged even before it releases its not like last generation where the hardware was on par or faster then what was available for pc. this time around consoles have already lost the battle before it even started. Also the hardware "gpu" will not run faster because AMD is introducing the same HSA coding to Pc and the cpu is the deciding factor how well the system performs which means if you have a modern 3 ghz quad core cpu or better with a overclocked 7850 or 7870 it will match or surpass the PS4 abilities that are locked at 30 fps.muscleserge

Both NVIDIA and AMD has software stack that bypass DirectX11.1's overheads i.e.

1. NVIDIA TCC driver stack (Atm, unable to interop with graphic hardware and needs GF100 or above with Tesla IDs).

2. AMD HSA driver stack. http://www.slideshare.net/zlatan4177/gpgpu-algorithms-in-games

Like OpenCL, HSA is an open standard.

Fun Fact: PS4's OS uses more ram than Windows 8

Fun Fact: GDDR5 doesn't make a difference in games

Fun Fact: PS4's OS uses more ram than Windows 8

HaloinventedFPS

Do you have anything of substance to back this up? :?

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Fun Fact: PS4's OS uses more ram than Windows 8

StrongDeadlift

Do you have anything of substance to back this up? :?

PS4's OS will take up more than 512mb ram

Fun Fact: PS4's OS uses more ram than Windows 8

Fun Fact: GDDR5 doesn't make a difference in games

HaloinventedFPS

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Fun Fact: PS4's OS uses more ram than Windows 8

Fun Fact: GDDR5 doesn't make a difference in games

danjammer69

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Fun Fact: PS4's OS uses more ram than Windows 8

StrongDeadlift

Do you have anything of substance to back this up? :?

thats ok. Watch dogs was running on a PC at a ps4 event. Shame Shame Shamek2theswiss

At 30FPS? LOLfaizan_faizan

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]thats ok. Watch dogs was running on a PC at a ps4 event. Shame Shame Shamefaizan_faizan

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]At 30FPS? LOLtormentos

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="k2theswiss"]thats ok. Watch dogs was running on a PC at a ps4 event. Shame Shame Shametormentos

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Fun Fact: PS4's OS uses more ram than Windows 8

faizan_faizan

Do you have anything of substance to back this up? :?

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]At 30FPS? LOLtormentos

Optimization includes using less and or lower quality assets for set standards. The hardware in the console is mid ranged even before it releases its not like last generation where the hardware was on par or faster then what was available for pc. this time around consoles have already lost the battle before it even started. Also the hardware "gpu" will not run faster because AMD is introducing the same HSA coding to Pc and the cpu is the deciding factor how well the system performs which means if you have a modern 3 ghz quad core cpu or better with a overclocked 7850 or 7870 it will match or surpass the PS4 abilities that are locked at 30 fps.04dcarraher

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

Do you have anything of substance to back this up? :?

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