Journey bankrupted thatgamecompany would have been better as multiplat

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#51 LustForSoul
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There's your superior arcade cows. Did you guys even buy it?
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#52 Neon_Noir
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cows don't buy games lol
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#53 RR360DD
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They should be carefull in their words. The last company that said they regreted making a game PS3 exclusive was Ninja Theory, and look at their Enslaved sales...

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Enslaved was garbage though. thatgamecompanys next game might be good.
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#54 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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Reason why they had problems was because they couldn't stay on schedule. Sony first paid them for two years development cycle, but it wasn't enough for thatgamecompany and they begged a year more from Sony. Sony did pay, but even that wasn't enough. Finally they had to work without pay and pay rest of the development themselves. So, they can partially blame themselves. 

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#55 Rattlesnake_8
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Funny it bankrupted the company when it won so many GOTY awards.
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#56 JohnF111
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They could make more money going multiplat? Oh wow look at that, aren't they clever! :roll:
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#57 Speedzilla
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Highest selling PSN game. Awwwwww yeah.

I cried during GoTY Journey. So breathtaking; I was wondering what I was gonna experience next. So much awe in this game. I get inspired eveytime I play this masterpiece.

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#58 Gue1
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Well duh. Look at Resistance 3. Exclusiveness can only hurt sales, everyone knows that.tagyhag

 

Heavenly Sword sold more than Enslaved.

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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

They should be carefull in their words. The last company that said they regreted making a game PS3 exclusive was Ninja Theory, and look at their Enslaved sales...

RR360DD

Enslaved was garbage though. thatgamecompanys next game might be good.

... or not

Just because Flower and Journey were good does not automatically mean their next game will be. Flow, their 1st game, was a very weak game imo

Also, Enslaved was not garbage. Pretty fun game actually

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#60 stvee101
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"Chen noted ThatGameCompany did make its money back from Journey--plus some--"

Yet it still bankrupted them??

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#61 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

No good trying to sell a game to the type of people who hype it and then don't buy it. Good decision.

Mrmedia01

You mean the fanbase that made it the highest selling game of all time on PSN.

 

hahahahaha, Thats a Xbot if I ever seen one.

 

Me an Xbot? Nope. I am a gamer and have been since the C64. I don't have some delusional attachment to a particular brand. I just go where the games are.

 

Also being the highest selling on PSN is no achievement. How many copies do you need to sell to break that record, 50? :lol:

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#62 JohnF111
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LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

RR360DD

Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

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#63 monson21502
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LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

RR360DD
do u blame them? this game looks like it cost as much to make a a 5 dollar psn game. wonder where the money really went? bet the dude had alot of fun wasting money while he was making the game. if i were sony i would look into it and maybe sue the guy for fruad
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#64 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

They should be carefull in their words. The last company that said they regreted making a game PS3 exclusive was Ninja Theory, and look at their Enslaved sales...

Vatusus

Enslaved was garbage though. thatgamecompanys next game might be good.

... or not

Just because Flower and Journey were good does not automatically mean their next game will be. Flow, their 1st game, was a very weak game imo

Also, Enslaved was not garbage. Pretty fun game actually

Well I think it was garbage, so Im not surprised it sold worse. Not to mention its marketing budget was a fraction of Heavenly swords.

Point being, thatgamecompany don't need to be careful about their words. If their next game sells badly, it won't simply be because they've went multiplatform. It will be for other reasons.

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#65 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

JohnF111

Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

JohnF111

Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

 

Journey wowed critics and quickly became the best selling PlayStation Network release of all time.


That's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling.  :lol:

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#67 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

RR360DD

Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

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that old excuse :lol: Admit it, you were so eager to bash anything to do with Sony that you didn't read the post. Go on, we will understand.
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#68 rilpas
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

Gue1

Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

 

Journey wowed critics and quickly became the best selling PlayStation Network release of all time.


That's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling.  :lol:

honestly, if Journey was the best selling PSN game of all time and if the developer still complained about its sales... I'd say that only shows how pitiful PSN sales actually are

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#69 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

Gue1

Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

 

Journey wowed critics and quickly became the best selling PlayStation Network release of all time.


That's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling.  :lol:

Actually a few people acknowledged that, and wondered why no numbers were posted (ps. heres a hint .... because the numbers were not impressive)

Breaking PSN records isn't saying much at all :lol:

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#70 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

JohnF111

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that old excuse :lol: Admit it, you were so eager to bash anything to do with Sony that you didn't read the post. Go on, we will understand.

Heres what I got from the post after I read it:

Journey is the best-selling game on PSN, breaking records and yet the game only managed to cover dev costs.

Yup, like I said, cows don't even buy their own games :lol:

Come back to me when a PSN game sells 5 million.

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#71 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

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RR360DD

that old excuse :lol: Admit it, you were so eager to bash anything to do with Sony that you didn't read the post. Go on, we will understand.

Heres what I got from the post after I read it:

Journey is the best-selling game on PSN, breaking records and yet the game only managed to cover dev costs.

Yup, like I said, cows don't even buy their own games :lol:

Come back to me when a PSN game sells 5 million.

Ah.. avoiding my post entirely... Just admit it dude, you couldn't wait to bash Sony for just 30 seconds and skipped right past the topic at hand to put in your bashing. Come on dude we won't mock you for it, we see it everyday with cows, lems and hermits and all. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to dealing with it.
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On one hand it seems like the perfect game for the huge indie crowd on the PC. On the other it wouldn't have been GOTY on IGN. :Pblue_hazy_basic
Isn't that interesting? If Journey was on PC as an exclusive, it wouldn't have won GOTY everywhere most likely.
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#73 StrongDeadlift
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Did anybody like The Unfinished Swan better than Journey?  

 

I beat Journey when it first came out, and I played the demo for Unfinished Swan and loved it.  I think im going to buy the full game now.  

 

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#74 rilpas
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]On one hand it seems like the perfect game for the huge indie crowd on the PC. On the other it wouldn't have been GOTY on IGN. :PDragonfireXZ95
Isn't that interesting? If Journey was on PC as an exclusive, it wouldn't have won GOTY everywhere most likely.

Consoles games always get more attention than PC games, especially if they are exclusive

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#75 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] that old excuse :lol: Admit it, you were so eager to bash anything to do with Sony that you didn't read the post. Go on, we will understand.JohnF111

Heres what I got from the post after I read it:

Journey is the best-selling game on PSN, breaking records and yet the game only managed to cover dev costs.

Yup, like I said, cows don't even buy their own games :lol:

Come back to me when a PSN game sells 5 million.

Ah.. avoiding my post entirely... Just admit it dude, you couldn't wait to bash Sony for just 30 seconds and skipped right past the topic at hand to put in your bashing. Come on dude we won't mock you for it, we see it everyday with cows, lems and hermits and all. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to dealing with it.

Okay point out to me the part of my original post that indicates I didn't read the OP?

I'll repeat myself. The OP said that GOTY award winning Journey failed to make a profit. So I replied saying LOL cows don't buy their games or something along those lines.

What part of this don't you understand.

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Going bankrupt is not what thatgamecompany needs, but it's what it deserves.

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#77 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]

No good trying to sell a game to the type of people who hype it and then don't buy it. Good decision.

15strong

You mean the fanbase that made it the highest selling game of all time on PSN.

Not much of a win if all other sales of PSN games are really low...
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#78 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Heres what I got from the post after I read it:

Journey is the best-selling game on PSN, breaking records and yet the game only managed to cover dev costs.

Yup, like I said, cows don't even buy their own games :lol:

Come back to me when a PSN game sells 5 million.

RR360DD

Ah.. avoiding my post entirely... Just admit it dude, you couldn't wait to bash Sony for just 30 seconds and skipped right past the topic at hand to put in your bashing. Come on dude we won't mock you for it, we see it everyday with cows, lems and hermits and all. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to dealing with it.

Okay point out to me the part of my original post that indicates I didn't read the OP?

I'll repeat myself. The OP said that GOTY award winning Journey failed to make a profit. So I replied saying LOL cows don't buy their games or something along those lines.

What part of this don't you understand.

The OP never said it failed to make a profit, it says the opposite, which is where my post came in saying how you never read it. Enjoy.
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#79 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

RR360DD

 

Journey wowed critics and quickly became the best selling PlayStation Network release of all time.


That's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling.  :lol:

Actually a few people acknowledged that, and wondered why no numbers were posted (ps. heres a hint .... because the numbers were not impressive)

Breaking PSN records isn't saying much at all :lol:

This.  Im sure you cant even tell me what the previous best selling title on PSN was.  

 

Major Nelson personally posts numbers for XBLA top games all the time. Sony didnt post figures because they know nothing they post will be impressive, and by posting them, it will make PSN look inferior to Xbox Live Arcade.  This is the same reason why Sony doesnt release NPD numbers anymore, and why they combined their worldwide sales with PS2 and PSP.  They only convey the positive, and dont acknowlege the existance of the negative.  

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#80 Tessellation
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Headline says one thing, and his post says the complete opposite. Good job.

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Cows really upset over the use of the word bankrupt. Understandable, that same set of letters has been haunting their dreams for months.
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Heres what I got from the post after I read it:

Journey is the best-selling game on PSN, breaking records and yet the game only managed to cover dev costs.

Yup, like I said, cows don't even buy their own games :lol:

Come back to me when a PSN game sells 5 million.

RR360DD

Ah.. avoiding my post entirely... Just admit it dude, you couldn't wait to bash Sony for just 30 seconds and skipped right past the topic at hand to put in your bashing. Come on dude we won't mock you for it, we see it everyday with cows, lems and hermits and all. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to dealing with it.

Okay point out to me the part of my original post that indicates I didn't read the OP?

I'll repeat myself. The OP said that GOTY award winning Journey failed to make a profit. So I replied saying LOL cows don't buy their games or something along those lines.

What part of this don't you understand.

I don't think you did read the article tbh.

According to the developer the game did turn a profit.How big that profit was is anyones guess.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]On one hand it seems like the perfect game for the huge indie crowd on the PC. On the other it wouldn't have been GOTY on IGN. :Prilpas

Isn't that interesting? If Journey was on PC as an exclusive, it wouldn't have won GOTY everywhere most likely.

Consoles games always get more attention than PC games, especially if they are exclusive

And the poetic justice sets in. This game would have made a lot more money for the devs on PC, too.
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#85 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] The OP never said it failed to make a profit, it says the opposite, which is where my post came in saying how you never read it. Enjoy.JohnF111

Neither did RR360DD.  :|  So where out of this post, did you get that from :? :

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

LOL

Cows don't buy their own exclusives. I'm not surprised

JohnF111

Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Try reading the post "They did make their money back however"

LOL lems jumping the gun because it's a chance to laugh at Sony.

rilpas

 

Journey wowed critics and quickly became the best selling PlayStation Network release of all time.


That's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling.  :lol:

honestly, if Journey was the best selling PSN game of all time and if the developer still complained about its sales... I'd say that only shows how pitiful PSN sales actually are

 

read it again, he is not complaining about sales, he wants his games to reach a wider audience like Minecraft did. And just think about it, if they are bankruptcy then how is the company still alive and are going to make a new game? Yes, because Journey sold well and they have the capital to continue making games. 

Eventually, it did make it's money back plus some, but not Minecraft money, Chen says. While it was well received, it wasn't well received by a big enough audience for Chen.

 

Come on man, English is not even my first language and I have better reading comprehesion than all of you guys.  :lol:

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#87 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

 

Journey wowed critics and quickly became the best selling PlayStation Network release of all time.


That's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling.  :lol:

Desmonic

honestly, if Journey was the best selling PSN game of all time and if the developer still complained about its sales... I'd say that only shows how pitiful PSN sales actually are

And quite honestly, when you as a dev take 3 years to make a 90 minute game, and then sell it for 15$ what would you expect? Sony allowed them to delay the game for 2 extra years while also sending people from Santa Monica to help out with the game. In a normal situation thatgamecompany would have killed themselves with this project. Most publishers would force them to keep on schedule and just release whatever they had or terminate the project (and thus get no money back. At all).

Also while we have no numbers ( so kind of hard to say sales were bad or good without them) I'm sure being the best seller on PSN isn't as bad as some are making it seem. Did it reach millions? Pretty sure it didn't. Did it sell so low that it "bankrupted" them? Nope. In fact the article itself says they did make their money back and the some more. The original article uses the term "bankrupt" quite loosely.. bankrupt means having no money for anything, not making back what you spent (and then more).

The way thatgamecompany is going about all this seems and feels arrogant. Like they could have achieved all of this without Sony being lenient or SM giving them a big hand. Being multiplatform doesn't instantly equal millions more sales. It gives you a chance yes, but it doesn't magically happen. (case in point Ninja Theory -- very similar situation and arrogance that came back to bite them in the ass later on).

How are they being arrogant? they're addmitting that keeping the game exclusive to one platform like hurt them from the beggining.

And honestly I still don't understand why this would come back to bite them or why it bit Ninja Theory in the ass.

Are you telling me people only cared about the games in the first place because they were exclusive to the PS3? If so that's a terrible reason to buy a game

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#88 finalstar2007
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Is TC dumb? lol

the artical says they were in a bad position and were about to go bankrupt but thanks to Journey now they arent anymore which translates to Journey made them lots of money.

lmao SW and the 10 year olds in here

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#89 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

 

Journey wowed critics and quickly became the best selling PlayStation Network release of all time.


That's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling.  :lol:

Gue1

honestly, if Journey was the best selling PSN game of all time and if the developer still complained about its sales... I'd say that only shows how pitiful PSN sales actually are

 

read it again, he is not complaining about sales, he wants his games to reach a wider audience like Minecraft did. And just think about it, if they are bankruptcy then how is the company still alive and are going to make a new game? Yes, because Journey sold well and they have the capital to continue making games. 

Eventually, it did make it's money back plus some, but not Minecraft money, Chen says. While it was well received, it wasn't well received by a big enough audience for Chen.

 

Come on man, English is not even my first language and I have better reading comprehesion than all of you guys.  :lol:

from your own link:

"For Chen, that means creating a game that can be played on any platform. That's why he sought out venture capital funding, and received it, and that's why the game the team is working on now won't be exclusive to any one system."

 

you were saying?

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#90 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Headline says one thing, and his post says the complete opposite. Good job.

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Sort of... it's Macross, robotech is the American version that got changed up alot.

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#91 StrongDeadlift
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read it again, he is not complaining about sales, he wants his games to reach a wider audience like Minecraft did. And just think about it, if they are bankruptcy then how is the company still alive and are going to make a new game? Yes, because Journey sold well and they have the capital to continue making games. 

Eventually, it did make it's money back plus some, but not Minecraft money, Chen says. While it was well received, it wasn't well received by a big enough audience for Chen.

 

Come on man, English is not even my first language and I have better reading comprehesion than all of you guys.  :lol:

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#92 Chris_Williams
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the game turned a profit for them, it sounds like the bankruptcy thing stems from some internal studio issues, either way i hope their games make it to the pc, flower is my favorite game from them so if they make more games like that, i'm down for the ride

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#93 rilpas
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

read it again, he is not complaining about sales, he wants his games to reach a wider audience like Minecraft did. And just think about it, if they are bankruptcy then how is the company still alive and are going to make a new game? Yes, because Journey sold well and they have the capital to continue making games. 

Eventually, it did make it's money back plus some, but not Minecraft money, Chen says. While it was well received, it wasn't well received by a big enough audience for Chen.

 

Come on man, English is not even my first language and I have better reading comprehesion than all of you guys.  :lol:

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worse: He's a fanboy

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#94 JohnF111
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Neither did RR360DD.  :|  So where out of this post, did you get that from :? StrongDeadlift
"The OP said that GOTY award winning Journey failed to make a profit." - RR360D Page 4. Enjoy.
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that's the part lems are ignoring to keep trolling. Gue1
hmmmm I can't imagine where they could have got that idea from! :P
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#97 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

read it again, he is not complaining about sales, he wants his games to reach a wider audience like Minecraft did. And just think about it, if they are bankruptcy then how is the company still alive and are going to make a new game? Yes, because Journey sold well and they have the capital to continue making games. 

Eventually, it did make it's money back plus some, but not Minecraft money, Chen says. While it was well received, it wasn't well received by a big enough audience for Chen.

 

Come on man, English is not even my first language and I have better reading comprehesion than all of you guys.  :lol:

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:lol:

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#99 cainetao11
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Breaking PSN sales records obviously isn't enough for this industry. The devs have have every right to want to maximize profits. Its a business, that's kind of the purpose. Going multiplat is the smartest thing to do in modern economy. Maximum audience translates to larger profit usually.
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We don't want this junk on XBOX360 or PC