Joystiq: "The Conduit is a distinctly ordinary game."

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#1 BioShockOwnz
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It seems that Joystiq is iffy on the upcoming FPS from High Voltage and Sega, The Conduit.

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"If, as I am suggesting, you drop the sentiment -- the admiration for an indie developer -- and view The Conduit objectively, you might see a distinctly ordinary game.

That's what I saw this weekend. And, though I may purchase The Conduit as a statement of support, I already doubt I would ever see the game through, from beginning to end."

Full Hands-On Preview: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/08/nycc-09-the-conduit-revisited-hands-on-a-new-game/

Other than that, it seems like they liked the game pretty well. I hope it turns out good. Who will be getting this one for the Wii?

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#2 Uptown
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incoming flop...
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#3 Dark_Link142
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To be honest, I don't know why people are hyping this AAA. It looks A or AA worthy.
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#4 Heydanbud92
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lol...year of the Wii
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#5 kingman03
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They didn't say they liked it. They said it was ordinary and wouldnt even play the whole game.
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#6 kansasdude2009
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To be honest, I don't know why people are hyping this AAA. It looks A or AA worthy. Dark_Link142
wtf? Are people hyping this AAA? It should be AA at most... personally, i'm hyping it A. :?
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The reviewer's option was skewed in that he preferrs joypad controls to Wiimote/nunchuck controls i.e. MP3. That he said that he wouldn't consider buying the game, isn't as much condemning the gameplay, as the choice of control, which would govern a lot of games.

Frankly it sounds like a bad choice of person to give an relatively unbiased preview, regardless of how good the game really is.

I'd guess The Conduit will receive AA from most, AAA from a few, and derision from cows and lemmings who love their traditional controllers.

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#8 haziqonfire
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This is what I've been saying. It feels like Halo meets Half Life 2 kinda thing, in terms of its art direction. Though they should be aware that is what HVS was trying to do -- bring that type of game to the Wii.
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#9 Vandalvideo
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Called it! I said this game was just another generic shooter from the 1990s.
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#10 Bread_or_Decide
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It is indeed ordinary. If you thought Killzone was indistinct this one is even worse. It exists soley if you want fast paced FPS action on the Wii. Its not perfect and when enemies are far away they turn into pixelated junk. The controls are highly tweakable so if you can play comfortably and ignore the boring concept it could be a decent time waster. Unfortunately it just lacks the polish of more popular titles. Its an anomally on the Wii and that alone is keeping it on everyones radar.
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#11 ActicEdge
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That is about what I thought it was going to be. I seriously hope people weren't expecting some revolutionary shooter? It looks like an ordinary game and that's how it is going to score.
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#12 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Dark_Link142"]To be honest, I don't know why people are hyping this AAA. It looks A or AA worthy. kansasdude2009
wtf? Are people hyping this AAA? It should be AA at most... personally, i'm hyping it A. :?

Hyping A is like saying "this game is going to be AWESOMELY average." YOu can't hype A. You can predict a score of A.
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Another Wii flop on the horizon.
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The reviewer's option was skewed in that he preferrs joypad controls to Wiimote/nunchuck controls i.e. MP3. That he said that he wouldn't consider buying the game, isn't as much condemning the gameplay, as the choice of control, which would govern a lot of games.

Frankly it sounds like a bad choice of person to give an relatively unbiased preview, regardless of how good the game really is.

I'd guess The Conduit will receive AA from most, AAA from a few, and derision from cows and lemmings who love their traditional controllers.

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:lol: i'll lol when this game flops, it's such an obvious flop

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#15 Bread_or_Decide
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That is about what I thought it was going to be. I seriously hope people weren't expecting some revolutionary shooter? It looks like an ordinary game and that's how it is going to score. ActicEdge
I needed more time with it myself but I could that at BEST its a fast paced arcade style shooter with interesting controls. I didn't find grenade throwing with the nunchuk to be all that innovative. My aim was way off most of the time and aiming with the wiimote was iffy seeing as I was often jittery with my movements. How many folks out there have surgeons hands I wonder.
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#16 Oscar-Wilde
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I stopped following this game when they announced that it isn't going to have splitscreen. i mean seriously I'm getting annoyed of games omitting such simple feature.
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#17 colecoavenger
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I've seen enough of this game to know that I want it. The highly customizable controls, the WiiSpeak, the online multiplayer, the graphics... It seems to me that High Voltage gave attention to every single detail.
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#18 SpruceCaboose
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Ouch. I still hope it comes through as a decent game.
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#19 mitu123
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The Flop is what it should be called now, LOL, joking, or am I?
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The reviewer's option was skewed in that he preferrs joypad controls to Wiimote/nunchuck controls i.e. MP3. That he said that he wouldn't consider buying the game, isn't as much condemning the gameplay, as the choice of control, which would govern a lot of games.

Frankly it sounds like a bad choice of person to give an relatively unbiased preview, regardless of how good the game really is.

I'd guess The Conduit will receive AA from most, AAA from a few, and derision from cows and lemmings who love their traditional controllers.

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Um...you are very optimistic.
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Who didn't see this coming aside from the same people that were hyping Chop 'Till you Drop, Manhunt and all the other "mature" games for the sake of it?
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Who didn't see this coming aside from the same people that were hyping Chop 'Till you Drop, Manhunt and all the other "mature" games for the sake of it?Vanadium2k8
People were hyping The Conduit because it looks like a game that the developers actually care about, unlike the vast majority of Wii games. It has nothing to do with how "mature" it is.
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[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="Dark_Link142"]To be honest, I don't know why people are hyping this AAA. It looks A or AA worthy. Bread_or_Decide
wtf? Are people hyping this AAA? It should be AA at most... personally, i'm hyping it A. :?

Hyping A is like saying "this game is going to be AWESOMELY average." YOu can't hype A. You can predict a score of A.

I'm buying it for the multiplayer (I need something for my Wii community) which makes me hyped about owning it.... thus I HYPE it A. :P
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]That is about what I thought it was going to be. I seriously hope people weren't expecting some revolutionary shooter? It looks like an ordinary game and that's how it is going to score. Bread_or_Decide
I needed more time with it myself but I could that at BEST its a fast paced arcade style shooter with interesting controls. I didn't find grenade throwing with the nunchuk to be all that innovative. My aim was way off most of the time and aiming with the wiimote was iffy seeing as I was often jittery with my movements. How many folks out there have surgeons hands I wonder.

The controls were the best thing about it apparently. Well frankly, this game will not score well by most sites. The only thing it has going for it is that its on the wii but hey I could be wrong. Maybe a better dev will step up and take a shot after seeing this, we'll never know.

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Who didn't see this coming aside from the same people that were hyping Chop 'Till you Drop, Manhunt and all the other "mature" games for the sake of it?Vanadium2k8
Manhunt is not a bad game, really. Not great, but not bad.
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[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]Who didn't see this coming aside from the same people that were hyping Chop 'Till you Drop, Manhunt and all the other "mature" games for the sake of it?colecoavenger
People were hyping The Conduit because it looks like a game that the developers actually care about, unlike the vast majority of Wii games. It has nothing to do with how "mature" it is.

Then tell me why games like Little King's Story aren't even getting half the hype of that game?
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#27 colecoavenger
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I love how everyone is now jumping ship based on one hands-on preview. Is it at all possible that this person simply didn't like it, and that there's nothing wrong with the game? I mean, there have been some positive impressions as well. I don't think we know enough about the level design and how the game plays to make a fair judgment on the game.
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#28 Tekkenloving
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the hype is A I don't think many wii owners have ever waited , in other news madworld is going to get an AAA and you can quote me on that.
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I stopped following this game when they announced that it isn't going to have splitscreen.Oscar-Wilde

Srsly?

*not hyping*

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[QUOTE="Oscar-Wilde"]I stopped following this game when they announced that it isn't going to have splitscreen.Tsug_Ze_Wind

Srsly?

*not hyping*

http://gonintendo/?p=71973 yeah, srsly...

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#31 Serraph105
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like any game Im going to wait for reviews before I declare it a flop and not base my opinion from one bad preview in a sea of good previews
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#32 Maxyboy13
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Joystiq's next article should be: "Yes, water is still wet."

Honestly, I don't know of many people who thought that this wasn't going to be an average game. I applaud the developers for trying so hard, but it just looks like there is nothing special about this game.

Also BioShock, where'd you get that sig? :shock:

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#33 madsnakehhh
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So, a game who focus more into multiplayer and less in originality (earth vs aliens) is being criticized for that, go figure.

And yes, the game looks like your every day FPS, but is not the only one nowadays.

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#34 jethrovegas
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And, though I may purchase The Conduit as a statement of support,Joystiq
A statement of support for what? The development of bland garbage?
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#35 SMR-Venom
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Isn't that the point though? A generic FPS on the Wii, although the controls are far from generic.
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#36 Englandfc1966
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im buying this looks fun
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#37 SMR-Venom
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You guys seem to purposely concentrate on the bad stuff and forget the good stuff. The guy also said that if tweaked properly, The Conduit could set a new standard for FPS controls. Also take into consideration that the guy prefers dual analog over wiimote+nunchuk. I wouldn't count out the game with one negative comment from one preview and disregard the other positive previews.
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incoming flop...Uptown
Ownage denied. "As a Wii FPS, The Conduit's controls rank at the top, alongside Metroid Prime 3 and Medal of Honor Heroes 2, and perhaps, with more practice (and sensitivity tweaking!) it could even set the new benchmark -- and we can only imagine what happens when MotionPlus is introduced."-Joystiq
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#40 obamanian
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I would never buy that game

For one i rarely buy shooters, and then the only thing attracting me to shooters is visuals and atmosphere, and this game looks terrible comparing to next gen shooters on PS3/360 for me

So, unless the shooting is so amazing as in Aliens shooters that i loved for the gameplay, i doubt i would ever buy it

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#41 carljohnson3456
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I hope it does well on the Wii to be honest. With casual leading the Wii's software sells it'd be nice to see The Conduit do good too.
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#42 tarzanell
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I hope it does well on the Wii to be honest. With casual leading the Wii's software sells it'd be nice to see The Conduit do good too.carljohnson3456
One can only hope...but this guy isn't the first to slam it, so I'm not going to hold me breath. Also, is that your girlfriend or what?
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To be honest, I don't know why people are hyping this AAA. It looks A or AA worthy. Dark_Link142
People are hyping the AAA??? I say A-AA at best. I can't even see 9.0 as a possibility.
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[QUOTE="Uptown"]incoming flop...SMR-Venom
Ownage denied. "As a Wii FPS, The Conduit's controls rank at the top, alongside Metroid Prime 3 and Medal of Honor Heroes 2, and perhaps, with more practice (and sensitivity tweaking!) it could even set the new benchmark -- and we can only imagine what happens when MotionPlus is introduced."-Joystiq

Let me get this straight, your saying this game won't flop becuase its controls are good? Thats funny because plent of games can have good controls and horrible gameplay.
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#45 GreenGoblin2099
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Ah... as if anyone who's not a sheep would've not thought of that before.
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#46 foxhound_fox
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Controls alone does not a good game make. It has been obvious since footage of this game has been released it was going to be nothing more than mediocre.
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#47 fbigent34
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i could care less what fanboys ign or gamespot thinks. a game i will enjoy nontheelse. "might" :roll: and what games really has be unqine anyways this gen?
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#48 fbigent34
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Controls alone does not a good game make. It has been obvious since footage of this game has been released it was going to be nothing more than mediocre.foxhound_fox
acutally they can and do. rather you want to "admit or not"
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acutally they can and do. rather you want to "admit or not" fbigent34

I guess you didn't read the OP's link. The Conduit proves that no matter how good of controls you have, you still have to have a good game around them for it to be worth playing.
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#50 fbigent34
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[QUOTE="fbigent34"]acutally they can and do. rather you want to "admit or not" foxhound_fox

I guess you didn't read the OP's link. The Conduit proves that no matter how good of controls you have, you still have to have a good game around them for it to be worth playing.

and as i stated before i dont care what people think. i dont need to read a joystick link to know what my opioion is thank you very much. an opioion is not fact. Just cause they guy says this dosent make it true.