'JRPG' is not a genre, you fools!

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

That's not entirely true.

Western RPG's tend to have deeper character customization, less linear stories and more emphasis on dialogue, the combat system is usually medicore, "see every bethesda game, plainscape torments combat is notoriously horrible." atleast the classic ones did like balders gate.

JRPG's focus instead on telling usually a inear story with side quests scattered about in certain areas of the game, they also used turned based combat but recently that has been changing in alot of games.

it's just a way of defining a sub genre, most role playing games from japan have been following this structure since.

Darksouls does not have qualities of a JRPG, but it also doesn't use classic wrpg confines either.

The whole entire naming property of RPG's is inherently flawed, as you play the role of something in every game. That won't change anytime soon as the industry has become reliant on the buzzword. Even games like Mass effect can get away with being called RPG's for better or worse despite them being shooters at the core.

All WRPG and JRPG are used to describe is what area of the planet the game and it's style originated at.

Timstuff

The idea that JRPG is its own genre does not work because there are too many Japanese RPGs that do not fit the stereotype of what a JRPG is supposed to be, especially now that we have games like Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma reaching mainstream success. Non-Japanese developers occasionally make console-style RPGs like Lord of the Rings: The Third Age or Cthulhu Saves The Earth, and for JRPGs to be a genre those games would be JRPGs (and no, being made in Japan is not a gameplay or aesthetic element).

"PC-style RPG" and "Console-style RPGs" are not perfect since PC and console games are converging so much, but until they are replaced with something like "Light RPG" and "Heavy RPG" they are at least far better than the nonsensical JRPG/WRPG binary, since they do not imply that all games from a certain region are in the same genre, and also the word "style" is at least a disclaimer that the platform of origin is not actually what determines the genre.

I think you fundamentally failed to understand what makes something a genre. There is no official board of genre approvals. Something is a genre when it is used by a group of people to provide a shared frame of reference when talking about forms of media and art (in this case in relation to computer games). If I ask someone what genre 'Tales of Grace' belong to, and he tells me that it's a Jrpg, it conveys a number of generalizations and assumptions: Anime art style, Character centric storytelling, Turn based combat. Now you could argue that Jrpg is a bad name for a genre or that it is inaccurate or that you personally dont like it, but that doesnt stop is from being a genre.

You claim that "The idea that JRPG is its own genre does not work because there are too many Japanese RPGs that do not fit the stereotype of what a JRPG is supposed to be." However that's really irrelevant. I'm not disagreeing that there are plenty of RPG's from Japanese developers that doesnt fit the Jrpg genre. However as long as there are people out there who considers Jrpg to be a genre, it is a genre.

Rock music is a genre, however if a lifelong rock musician decided to release a CD with country music, that music wouldn't be considered rock music.

You dont have to live in Ireland to play, record or release Irish Folk music.

Musicians can be folks living in Ireland without playing Irish Folk music. Irish Folk music is named after its place of origin and cultural roots, however that doesnt mean that U2s music is Irish Folk just because they come from Ireland.

Jrpg is a genre for the simple reason that a lot of people consider it to be a genre.

i know what manga is, I just don't get it, batman it is not, the weird aesthetic why everyone looks 12 etc. Look I don't want to get into a debate about. So I'll just say that. Srry if I ofended anyone.sts106mat

I already know what you are talking about, and I agree with you because I don't understand the 12 year old thing either, which is generally why I can't stand JRPGs since all the characters seem to be under 17, or if they aren't, they look under 17.

"JRPG" aka Japanese RPG aka RPG made in Japan.

Sounds pretty logical to me...

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

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blue_hazy_basic

Yes, yes it is. Whoever made it deserves a medal.

Indeed.

JRPG is a hairstyle.

"JRPG" aka Japanese RPG aka RPG made in Japan.

Sounds pretty logical to me...

nameless12345

However, that doesnt make it accurate :)

"Country Music" aka Music made by people who live in the country... however you dont have to live in the country to write country music, and music written in the country is not automatically country music.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

"JRPG" aka Japanese RPG aka RPG made in Japan.

Sounds pretty logical to me...

Mazoch

However, that doesnt make it accurate :)

"Country Music" aka Music made by people who live in the country... however you dont have to live in the country to write country music, and music written in the country is not automatically country music.

I think what you're talking about is "anime RPG".

"JRPG" is just country of origin (i.e. Dark Souls is just as much a "JRPG" as Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest are).

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

"JRPG" aka Japanese RPG aka RPG made in Japan.

Sounds pretty logical to me...

nameless12345

However, that doesnt make it accurate :)

"Country Music" aka Music made by people who live in the country... however you dont have to live in the country to write country music, and music written in the country is not automatically country music.

I think what you're talking about is "anime RPG".

"JRPG" is just country of origin (i.e. Dark Souls is just as much a "JRPG" as Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest are).

Not to people who use Jrpg as a way to refer to a genre. You might not do so, but just like Country Music and Irish Folk Music, a genre can contain a reference to a location without it being a requirement that the media was created there.

A lot of people use the genre Jrpg to refer to what you call Anime-RPG's that's the term they use, and because it's used as a genre, it IS a genre.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

However, that doesnt make it accurate :)

"Country Music" aka Music made by people who live in the country... however you dont have to live in the country to write country music, and music written in the country is not automatically country music.

Mazoch

I think what you're talking about is "anime RPG".

"JRPG" is just country of origin (i.e. Dark Souls is just as much a "JRPG" as Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest are).

Not to people who use Jrpg as a way to refer to a genre. You might not do so, but just like Country Music and Irish Folk Music, a genre can contain a reference to a location without it being a requirement that the media was created there.

A lot of people use the genre Jrpg to refer to what you call Anime-RPG's that's the term they use, and because it's used as a genre, it IS a genre.

Well, that definition is wrong since not all Japanese RPGs have the anime style.

Comparing musical genres with game genres is a bad idea.

You can categorize music quite easily but with games it's harder because they may be mixtures of a lot of different genres (altho we can define the predominating one, i.e. shooter, fighter, platformer, racing, ect.).

IMO jRPG is a game type, not just the designation of location the was developed in. jRPG vs wRPG is about different design philosophies, not where the country was made.

IMO jRPG is a game type, not just the designation of location the was developed in. jRPG vs wRPG is about different design philosophies, not where the country was made.

AdrianWerner

Going by that definition, Dark Souls and Dragon Dogma are "WRPGs".

But I really don't see anything "Western" about them appart from the medieval visual style.

Typical Western RPGs would be the D&D games like Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age, Neverwinter Nights, ect.

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

I think what you're talking about is "anime RPG".

"JRPG" is just country of origin (i.e. Dark Souls is just as much a "JRPG" as Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest are).

nameless12345

Not to people who use Jrpg as a way to refer to a genre. You might not do so, but just like Country Music and Irish Folk Music, a genre can contain a reference to a location without it being a requirement that the media was created there.

A lot of people use the genre Jrpg to refer to what you call Anime-RPG's that's the term they use, and because it's used as a genre, it IS a genre.

Well, that definition is wrong since not all Japanese RPGs have the anime style.

Comparing musical genres with game genres is a bad idea.

You can categorize music quite easily but with games it's harder because they may be mixtures of a lot of different genres (altho we can define the predominating one, i.e. shooter, fighter, platformer, racing, ect.).

But we're not talking about a definition, we're talking about a genre. Those are two diffrent things. You could argue that the Jrpg genre is poorly named and that a different name would be a much better fit. But as long as people hold a set of assumptions and generalizations and associate those assumptions and generalizations with the term Jrpg, then Jrpg is a genre to those people.

JRPG = turn based RPG heavily focused on characters and story.

WRPG = RPG with faster battles (usually take place on the same world you move, instead of a in a new state), heavily focused on environment.

The genre for both of them are RPG. J/W RPG is a classification of game mechanics / tendencies.

Going by that definition, Dark Souls and Dragon Dogma are "WRPGs".nameless12345

Yep.

But I really don't see anything "Western" about them appart from the medieval visual style.nameless12345

They use western style of visual design and fantasy world building. So WRPG is good term for them. Plus Dark Souls is pretty heavily western gameplay-wise too. Dragon Dogma is a bit different, just like DS it takes western style of fantasy, but realizes it through style of gameplay that takes a lot from japanese games.

Typical Western RPGs would be the D&D games like Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age, Neverwinter Nights, ect.

nameless12345

Personaly I consider wRPG to mean "western-styled RPG". I don't think it's actual genre, just style, which is a lot murkier and allows for wider classification. It's like horror in this regard.

[QUOTE="EzcapeTheFate"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] agreed, american teenagers obsessed with japan are a weird one on me.JohnnyCageMK

JRPGs/WRPGs are just broad stereotypes put in place to differentiate them. People have grown so accustomed to them, that they have forgotten what RPG genres are. (Dungeon Crawlers, Point 'n Click Hack 'n Slash RPGs, Roguelikes, Turn Based RPGs, Strategy RPGs, Story-driven RPGs, 1st/3rd person hack 'n slash RPGs etc.)

The aesthetic design doesn't equal a genre. Neither do the underlying number crunching beneath (D&D, SPECIAL system, FF system, etc.). I mean, this is ridiculous. Who the f*ck would think it's a genre?

JRPGs/WRPGs are just broad stereotypes put in place to differentiate them. People have grown so accustomed to them, that they have forgotten what RPG genres are. (Dungeon Crawlers, Point 'n Click Hack 'n Slash RPGs, Roguelikes, Turn Based RPGs, Strategy RPGs, Story-driven RPGs, 1st/3rd person hack 'n slash RPGs etc.

Lucianu

jrpg's suck so bad

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

JRPGs/WRPGs are just broad stereotypes put in place to differentiate them. People have grown so accustomed to them, that they have forgotten what RPG genres are. (Dungeon Crawlers, Point 'n Click Hack 'n Slash RPGs, Roguelikes, Turn Based RPGs, Strategy RPGs, Story-driven RPGs, 1st/3rd person hack 'n slash RPGs etc.

AdrianWerner

What, story-driven RPGs and 1st/3rd person hack 'n slash RPGs? I've seen a good chunk of forums use these terms, and i've grown to use them aswell, it's easier. I can't just use such an incredibly broad term as 'action-RPGs', it would undermine their specific gameplay.

Here's an example. Icewind Dale - standard dungeon crawler. Baldur's Gate - story driven RPG.

It's not like other RPG sub-genres haven't appeared over time for use because of certain games that broke the mold and needed to be categorized.

JRPGs/WRPGs are just broad stereotypes put in place to differentiate them. People have grown so accustomed to them, that they have forgotten what RPG genres are. (Dungeon Crawlers, Point 'n Click Hack 'n Slash RPGs, Roguelikes, Turn Based RPGs, Strategy RPGs, Story-driven RPGs, 1st/3rd person hack 'n slash RPGs etc.)

The aesthetic design doesn't equal a genre. Neither do the underlying number crunching beneath (D&D, SPECIAL system, FF system, etc.). I mean, this is ridiculous. Who the f*ck would think it's a genre?

Lucianu

My thoughts exactly.

There are large differences in the "WRPG" and "JRPG" "genres" too (like you said you have dungeon crawlers, hack 'n slash ones, turn-based ones, real-time combat ones, strategy/RPG hybrids, 1st person/3rd person, open world/linear, anime/non-anime, realistic/cartoony, MMO, ect.).

What, story-driven RPGs and 1st/3rd person hack 'n slash RPGs? I've seen a good chunk of forums use these terms, and i've grown to use them aswell, it's easier. I can't just use such an incredibly broad term as 'action-RPGs', it would undermine their specific gameplay.Lucianu

That's fine, but it's not a genre, or even a sub genre. It's just a way to describe how the game plays. No reason to create some artificual categorization. Especially since genres and subgenres always were about gameplay, things like story-driven RPGs or dungeon crawlers are scripts-related and have very little in common with the actual gameplay.

Here's an example. Icewind Dale - standard dungeon crawler. Baldur's Gate - story driven RPG.

Lucianu

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] agreed, american teenagers obsessed with japan are a weird one on me.EzcapeTheFate

point being what? you get irritated that people like to classify stuff that comes from japan?

You are right, they are an RPG sub-genre.

It is a fabrication constructed by Japanocentric animoo fanboys who think that if something comes from Japan that somehow deserves special recognition as opposed to any other country, and it says nothing about the game's gameplay or aesthetic.Timstuff

Western RPGs and Japanese RPGs (JRPGs) Cultural differences in role-playing video games have caused RPGs to tend towards two sets of characteristics sometimes referred to as Western and Japanese RPGs (also referred to as "JRPG" or "JRPGs"). The first (Western RPGs) often involves the player creating a character and a non-linear storyline along which the player makes his own decisions. In the second type (JRPGs), the player controls a party of predefined characters through a dramatically scripted linear storyline (though there are additional features such as Xenoblade Chronicles which contains action elements and sandbox environments, and The Last Story which incorporates stealth gameplay and strategy). There are described advantages to -and dedicated fans of- each system, including fans of Western RPGs in East Asia and Japanese RPGs in Europe/North America. Western RPGs include the Fallout series and Elder Scrolls series, while JRPGs include the Final Fantasy series and Dragon Quest series.

But honestly who cares, its just an archetype calling card or subgenre name for a specific type of Role Playing Game, like other subgenres that you probably use yourself like Arcade Racer, Tactical Shooter, and Stealth.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

This is a dangerous video to show System Wars, because while Penny Arcade acknowledges how the terms are commonly used - geographically, they've proposed to use them as sub-genre terms, and even made some alarming accusations.

Very interesting to watch though, once you made the distinction of what's fact or opinion.

AdobeArtist

I was going to link those Extra Creditz videos myself. What their segment really tries to do is identify how WRPGs and JRPGs are played for entirely different experiences. Just as sim racers, arcade racers, and kart racers are played for unique experiences even while still falling under the racer umbrella.

But then when a game like Dark Souls comes from Japan and follows the design and gameplay philosophy of the West, calling it a JRPG is misleading, as it doesn't describe the gaming experience that is atypical of other well known JRPG IPs.

Clearly regional branding isn't the way to identify sub genres. It should be to inform the player of the core game design and experience that can be expected from the game. I've proposed this before and want to give it another shot. Mind you It's still just a concept but here goes;

Interpretive RPG (aka WRPG) - this is indicative that much of the gameplay experience is subject to the players interpretation. This can include any combination of custom character design encompassing race, gender, appearance, outfit ensembles, as well as plot choices, moral outlook, and world interaction.

Narrative RPG (aka JRPG) - here the experience is centered around a scripted story and where the player is fixed to a predesigned character, both in outward appearance and internal qualities. while still allowing for stat building and class configurations, overall far more linear in character and story progression.

Those are fitting terms, but as long as people stay ignorant of the history and what the terms represent, adding new terms will just confuse newcomers. I mean, it'll probably be impossible to extend new terms beyond the site, so trying to educate people about existing terms is the better option.

Additionally, your coined terms only serves to draw a equal sign between them and JRPG/WRPG.

Role playing games leaning towards either the interpretive or narrative side of things isn't localized in one region anymore in 2012. My belief is that our exisitng terminology works - as long as people understands them. Here are a few well-known examples that break the mold of what people mistakenly define as JRPG's WRPGs:

Demon's Souls - action aRPG (you're a guy trying to kill **** it's all about the combat). It's neither interpretive, since you're explicitly told what you are and what you are to do, nor is it narrative, since there is barely any.

Disgaea - strategy sRPG (micromanagement on the battlefield). Again, while the writing for the franchise have been excellent, calling it sRPG is infinitely more descriptive because strategy is the essence of Disgaea.

Fallout 3 - FPS RPG. Like Demon's Souls, you're explicitly told what you are and what you should do, but with some degree of freedom. However, game design still forces you to take one of two general paths, the paths being 'good' and 'evil'.

Watch this video and you will understand why I get pissed off when I see people use the terms "JRPG" and "WRPG" to describe what they believe to be the two primart sub-genres of RPG. As if trying to say that being from Japan qualifies as a genre, or that Dark Souls and Persona 2 are somewow the same kind of game aren't enough reason to see why that is so stupid, you might actually learn something. I did!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDTjJTfJgwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbStnzBDEU

In short, there is no such thing as the "JRPG genre." It is a fabrication constructed by Japanocentric animoo fanboys who think that if something comes from Japan that somehow deserves special recognition as opposed to any other country, and it says nothing about the game's gameplay or aesthetic. To further confound the situation, no-one says "KRPG," "AmeriRPG" or CanadaRPG", "EuRPG" or anything like that to describe RPGs that are not Japanese. If it's from Japan, it's a JRPG, if it's from anywhere else, it's a "WRPG," or "Western RPG," and if it's from Korea or any other non-Japanese Asian country, it simply doesn't exist. That mentality is dumb which is why I stopped using the WRPG or JRPG monikers when I realized how stupid they are. Hopefully you watced the above videos, because it could save you from making a silly statement like "Dragon's Dogma is an incredible leap forward for the JRPG genre!" "JRPG" is just a brand that Japan fanboys rally around, and there is really no reason to get excited by the term unless you are a Japan fanboy.

Timstuff

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

IMO jRPG is a game type, not just the designation of location the was developed in. jRPG vs wRPG is about different design philosophies, not where the country was made.

nameless12345

Going by that definition, Dark Souls and Dragon Dogma are "WRPGs".

But I really don't see anything "Western" about them appart from the medieval visual style.

Typical Western RPGs would be the D&D games like Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age, Neverwinter Nights, ect.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

This is a dangerous video to show System Wars, because while Penny Arcade acknowledges how the terms are commonly used - geographically, they've proposed to use them as sub-genre terms, and even made some alarming accusations.

Very interesting to watch though, once you made the distinction of what's fact or opinion.

Gxgear

I was going to link those Extra Creditz videos myself. What their segment really tries to do is identify how WRPGs and JRPGs are played for entirely different experiences. Just as sim racers, arcade racers, and kart racers are played for unique experiences even while still falling under the racer umbrella.

But then when a game like Dark Souls comes from Japan and follows the design and gameplay philosophy of the West, calling it a JRPG is misleading, as it doesn't describe the gaming experience that is atypical of other well known JRPG IPs.

Clearly regional branding isn't the way to identify sub genres. It should be to inform the player of the core game design and experience that can be expected from the game. I've proposed this before and want to give it another shot. Mind you It's still just a concept but here goes;

Interpretive RPG (aka WRPG) - this is indicative that much of the gameplay experience is subject to the players interpretation. This can include any combination of custom character design encompassing race, gender, appearance, outfit ensembles, as well as plot choices, moral outlook, and world interaction.

Narrative RPG (aka JRPG) - here the experience is centered around a scripted story and where the player is fixed to a predesigned character, both in outward appearance and internal qualities. while still allowing for stat building and class configurations, overall far more linear in character and story progression.

Those are fitting terms, but as long as people stay ignorant of the history and what the terms represent, adding new terms will just confuse newcomers. I mean, it'll probably be impossible to extend new terms beyond the site, so trying to educate people about existing terms is the better option.

Additionally, your coined terms only serves to draw a equal sign between them and JRPG/WRPG.

Role playing games leaning towards either the interpretive or narrative side of things isn't localized in one region anymore in 2012. My belief is that our exisitng terminology works - as long as people understands them. Here are a few well-known examples that break the mold of what people mistakenly define as JRPG's WRPGs:

Demon's Souls - action aRPG (you're a guy trying to kill **** it's all about the combat). It's neither interpretive, since you're explicitly told what you are and what you are to do, nor is it narrative, since there is barely any.

Disgaea - strategy sRPG (micromanagement on the battlefield). Again, while the writing for the franchise have been excellent, calling it sRPG is infinitely more descriptive because strategy is the essence of Disgaea.

Fallout 3 - FPS RPG. Like Demon's Souls, you're explicitly told what you are and what you should do, but with some degree of freedom. However, game design still forces you to take one of two general paths, the paths being 'good' and 'evil'.

It's exactly because the design philosophies of interpretive and narrative (as I describe it) aren't as regionally specific as they used to be, that labelling by region in fact does not work. And what lead to my paradigm of how best to categorize the games, based more on core gameplay experience rather than origin of creation.

And while the WRPG and JRPG is something people have gotten used to, it no longer reflects the shift in trends to how games are made relative to their source. So we all should be adjusting to a new way of categorizing. If not my suggestion, surely some other equally appropriate descriptor.

Sorry, but there is a difference between JRPGs and WRPGs. A genre is "A group of media texts that share a set of conventional characteristics, such as content, narrative structure, and visual style."

JRPGs are more so focused on turn based combat carried out by preteen angsty teenagers, whereas WRPGs are more so D&D like, as in have the same basic story lines and generaslly the same combat mechanics.In all honesty, WRPGs, dont exist. Its RPGs and JRPGs are a sub genre of it.

Its all still called RPGs at the end of the day

JRPG is a term for Japanese Role Playing Game like FF, Tales, KH, etc, whoever says its a gerne is a fool because its still a RPG at the end of the day.

This thread is full of arrogance. There are people who are arguing simply because they want to claim Dark Souls/Demon soul as a WRPG. How about we make a System War rule where we cant use these two stupid terms and get on with our lives?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

agreed, american teenagers obsessed with japan are a weird one on me. i dont get any of that manga stuff either.

i'd like to visit tokyo and the birthplace of Osensei, but being interested in the people and their country is very different to watching some of the weird stuff that a few folks on here have in their sigs. if you know what i mean.

sts106mat

Manga are comic books, so if someone likes batman comics it's the same as someone liking manga.. there's really no difference. Also generally people become interested in other countries and cultures due to media exposure, whether it be books, movies, anime, games or pictures.. whatever.

As for the whole JRPG and WRPG thing, I'd imagine the terminology came around due to the common place design choices between the two. First off, making characters doesn't seem to be a staple in JRPG, they normally give you specific characters like Mass Effect does (except ME allows you some customization), aesthetically it's quite fear to say many JRPGs use anime styles while WRPGs try to go for more realistic looks and gameplay wise once again it's quite fair to say many JRPGs are turned based or have a somewhat turnbased system as opposed to WRPGs. There are some clear differences in design choices between the two which is why I think the labels are acceptable. As for the whole korea and whatever talk, how many RPGs really come out of Asia other than from Japan?

It may not be technically correct, but people know whart you mean when you say JRPG's so people will continue to use the term including myself. Deal with it.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Watch this video and you will understand why I get pissed off when I see people use the terms "JRPG" and "WRPG" to describe what they believe to be the two primart sub-genres of RPG. As if trying to say that being from Japan qualifies as a genre, or that Dark Souls and Persona 2 are somewow the same kind of game aren't enough reason to see why that is so stupid, you might actually learn something. I did!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDTjJTfJgwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbStnzBDEU

In short, there is no such thing as the "JRPG genre." It is a fabrication constructed by Japanocentric animoo fanboys who think that if something comes from Japan that somehow deserves special recognition as opposed to any other country, and it says nothing about the game's gameplay or aesthetic. To further confound the situation, no-one says "KRPG," "AmeriRPG" or CanadaRPG", "EuRPG" or anything like that to describe RPGs that are not Japanese. If it's from Japan, it's a JRPG, if it's from anywhere else, it's a "WRPG," or "Western RPG," and if it's from Korea or any other non-Japanese Asian country, it simply doesn't exist. That mentality is dumb which is why I stopped using the WRPG or JRPG monikers when I realized how stupid they are. Hopefully you watced the above videos, because it could save you from making a silly statement like "Dragon's Dogma is an incredible leap forward for the JRPG genre!" "JRPG" is just a brand that Japan fanboys rally around, and there is really no reason to get excited by the term unless you are a Japan fanboy.

Dj-Dampleaf

Dark Souls is an Action RPG.

A JRPG is a RPG made by Japanese developers. Anyone who says otherwise is a flippin moron.

Dumbest. Argument. Ever.Master_ShakeXXX

Apparently, this guy is pretty notorious on the Spoony forums for being a massive weeaboo who will accuse anyone that even uses the word "Japanese" in relation to video games as racist. Just thought I'd let you know.

Its so simple to resolve this argument. If you want to classify a game according to style and mechanics then you use a different name for the genre like action RPG or turn based RPG.

JRPG/WRPG should be used strictly to define origin of the game because it is the only logical meaning. Dark Souls is a RPG made in Japan hence it is a Japanese RPG(JRPG). And honestly, I do not see any resemblance of WRPGs in Dark Souls except for the setting.

Now that I look, all I have for my PS3 as far as RPGs go are JRPGs. I don't have a single WRPG for my PS3.AmazonTreeBoa

Apparently, this guy is pretty notorious on the Spoony forums for being a massive weeaboo who will accuse anyone that even uses the word "Japanese" in relation to video games as racist. Just thought I'd let you know.

DraugenCP

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Now that I look, all I have for my PS3 as far as RPGs go are JRPGs. I don't have a single WRPG for my PS3.NaturalDisplay