Judging By May NPD, PS3 Will Never Pass X360

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#1 shadow8585
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X360 outsold the PS3 by 40,000 units on the May NPD.

X360 S releases in June and sells out everywhere.

The majority of sales left this gen are going to be to casuals (Madden, COD, GTA players) and casuals like the lower-priced, less-accesorized, more gamer-orientated X360.

If you disagree, explain to me how/why/what is going to happen to cause the PS3 to somehow pass the X360 in sales this gen

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#2 DroidPhysX
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Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

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#3 genaroll
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Ok stop stating the obvious and calm down there is still a chance it can happen though.
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#4 Ragnarok1051
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Nothing to see here follks. Just the usual NPD=the world topic.

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#5 Karnage108
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Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

DroidPhysX
May as well be. Is Sony doing well enough elsewhere to make up for it?
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#6 Buckledant
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"] May as well be. Is Sony doing well enough elsewhere to make up for it?

Japan?
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#7 TheEroica  Moderator
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Nothing to see here follks. Just the usual NPD=the world topic.

Ragnarok1051
maybe so, but there is a good point to all of this... the 360 is the "little console that could". MS really has done a nice job this generation with their marketing and the way the've envisioned the flow. Its funny how sony once said "this generation doesnt start till we say it does" and yet they've been chasing MS in terms of sales and appeal all generation long.
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#8 Dilrod
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

Karnage108
May as well be. Is Sony doing well enough elsewhere to make up for it?

Considering the ps3 outsells the 360 ww every month.... Yes. Heck just Japan makes up this 40k difference.
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#9 FIipMode
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You better off not using only one region to determine things like that.

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#10 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

Karnage108
May as well be. Is Sony doing well enough elsewhere to make up for it?

Atleast in japan it does, but worldwide sales are only true until MS and sony say they are
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#11 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

You win this thread. North America is the ONLY region where the 360 outsells the PS3.
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#12 2mrw
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yeah, i guess so, the PS3 won't probably pass the x360 in NA, but soon the PS3 will surpass it WW .... too bad NA is the main key for the gaming industry rightnow.

may be Move and 3D can change that.

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Hypothetically lets say the PS3 does catch up to the X360. They needed basically an entire region to themselves (Japan) to make it happen with 5X the install base last generation. No matter what happens, Sony was outplayed hard this generation. Imagine if RROD happened to PS3 instead of X360. Woulda been an absolute massacre
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#14 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="2mrw"]

yeah, i guess so, the PS3 won't probably pass the x360 in NA, but soon the PS3 will surpass it WW .... too bad NA is the main key for the gaming industry rightnow.

may be Move and 3D can change that.

Europe says how ya doin? NA is important, but so is Europe and SOny gets that.
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#15 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

May as well be. Is Sony doing well enough elsewhere to make up for it?

According to last years reports from Sony and Microsoft the PS3 outsold the 360 13 Million to 10 Million so, obviously Europe and Japan mean more then the U.S.
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#17 Karnage108
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Nice links people.
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#18 2mrw
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="2mrw"]

yeah, i guess so, the PS3 won't probably pass the x360 in NA, but soon the PS3 will surpass it WW .... too bad NA is the main key for the gaming industry rightnow.

may be Move and 3D can change that.

Europe says how ya doin? NA is important, but so is Europe and SOny gets that.

i know, but didn't you get it yet ??? didn't you ask urself why most Multi games sell better on x360 ???? it's NA.
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#19 KevinButlerVP
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World Wide is a different story... PS3 is outselling the 360, at the rate it is it will beat 360 in sales

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#20 coola426
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lol Sony has been constantly outselling the 360 week after week after week in Japan and Europe. The gap between the ps3 and 360 in NA hasn't even been that much so the ps3 has been constantly outselling the 360 WW since the ps3 released. why do you think the lead went from 8 million to 5 million? NPD doesn't equal the world its just for NA. And i know must of us know that but some people still don't realize that NPD is for North America only not the world.

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#21 coola426
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but it didn't happen.

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#22 Silverbond
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This is one of the few cases where America =/= to the whole world is valid.

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#23 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

May as well be. Is Sony doing well enough elsewhere to make up for it?

Yeah, I don't think either system needs to pass the other, just as long as they are making a big profit, which we know all three are!
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#24 ActicEdge
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They sell on pretty equal footing tbh. The PS3 may pass but 5 years into the generation, being second place doesn't matter.

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[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="2mrw"]

yeah, i guess so, the PS3 won't probably pass the x360 in NA, but soon the PS3 will surpass it WW .... too bad NA is the main key for the gaming industry rightnow.

may be Move and 3D can change that.

Europe says how ya doin? NA is important, but so is Europe and SOny gets that.

i know, but didn't you get it yet ??? didn't you ask urself why most Multi games sell better on x360 ???? it's NA.

lol You missed the point. You were acting like NA > World, I am pointing out to you that we are losing our spot to Europe fast. Dont act like other markets are not important, because I can promise you most companies value the Euro more than the Dollar.
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#26 TheEroica  Moderator
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ya know what we argue about this garbage every single day... heres the way I see it.

Sony has been clearly knocked off its pedestool as the premier gaming console to own. 120+ million PS2's down to what? 35 million PS3's? sad.

Microsoft carries all the momentum of success through this generation. They actually have sold more 360's than Oxbox and still climbing. regardless of where the console numbers end up and YES, they may end up with sony on top worldwide, Microsoft did exactly what they needed to do this generation which is cut their enemies head off... period.

NEXT generation is really where the fun will begin... I mean how will they convince the general public that I need to own one multiplat console over another? get used to it folks... copycat everything from here on out.

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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Yeah, I don't think either system needs to pass the other, just as long as they are making a big profit, which we know all three are!

Uuuh... This was a joke right?
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ya know what we argue about this garbage every single day... heres the way I see it.

Sony has been clearly knocked off its pedestool as the premier gaming console to own. 120+ million PS2's down to what? 35 million PS3's? sad.

Microsoft carries all the momentum of success through this generation. They actually have sold more 360's than Oxbox and still climbing. regardless of where the console numbers end up and YES, they may end up with sony on top worldwide, Microsoft did exactly what they needed to do this generation which is cut their enemies head off... period.

NEXT generation is really where the fun will begin... I mean how will they convince the general public that I need to own one multiplat console over another? get used to it folks... copycat everything from here on out.

TheEroica

Nintendo carries all the momentum of success this generation.

Both Sony and Microsoft are just also-rans.

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ya know what we argue about this garbage every single day... heres the way I see it.

Sony has been clearly knocked off its pedestool as the premier gaming console to own. 120+ million PS2's down to what? 35 million PS3's? sad.

Microsoft carries all the momentum of success through this generation. They actually have sold more 360's than Oxbox and still climbing. regardless of where the console numbers end up and YES, they may end up with sony on top worldwide, Microsoft did exactly what they needed to do this generation which is cut their enemies head off... period.

NEXT generation is really where the fun will begin... I mean how will they convince the general public that I need to own one multiplat console over another? get used to it folks... copycat everything from here on out.

TheEroica

Actually these things belong to Nintendo not Microsoft. Nintendo owns all the momentum and has dominated everybody. Period.

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#30 Gxgear
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Methinks TC needs to spend less time worrying about sales for a sigle region and play his 360 more. PS3 is doing fine.

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#31 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

Karnage108
May as well be. Is Sony doing well enough elsewhere to make up for it?

Big time, Japan alone makes up for it. Its going to happen sooner or later, the gap keeps getting smaller.
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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Yeah, I don't think either system needs to pass the other, just as long as they are making a big profit, which we know all three are! Buckledant
Uuuh... This was a joke right?

Nope.
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there may not be anything that i care less about in sw than who comes in third place behind the pc and wii...

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

ya know what we argue about this garbage every single day... heres the way I see it.

Sony has been clearly knocked off its pedestool as the premier gaming console to own. 120+ million PS2's down to what? 35 million PS3's? sad.

Microsoft carries all the momentum of success through this generation. They actually have sold more 360's than Oxbox and still climbing. regardless of where the console numbers end up and YES, they may end up with sony on top worldwide, Microsoft did exactly what they needed to do this generation which is cut their enemies head off... period.

NEXT generation is really where the fun will begin... I mean how will they convince the general public that I need to own one multiplat console over another? get used to it folks... copycat everything from here on out.

MoonMarvel

Actually these things belong to Nintendo not Microsoft. Nintendo owns all the momentum and has dominated everybody. Period.

ok, fine... whichever weapon you feel took the snakes head off is fine... though what Nintendo is doing is much different than that of sony and MS and I am using them as the basis for the argument. Nintendo has no substantial online service in the range of PSN and XBL and they are achieving success through the lure and promise of motion controls. But yeah, sure, Nintendo is definately the loudest dog on the block ATM.

Microsoft took on Sony head on at their own game, where Nintendo forged a different path that thankfully for them, payed off.

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Every time NPD results are shown a clueless lemm thinks the PS3 will never outsell 360 yet it has been doing so for quite some time. I don't really need to say since it's already been said my times in this thread but what-the-heck America does not equal Worldwide sales, with the sales from Europe and Japan the PS3 has been so far outselling 360 worldwide this year. It will be interesting to see how the new Xbox model affects the sales considering there is no price drop to accompany it.
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yeah, i guess so, the PS3 won't probably pass the x360 in NA, but soon the PS3 will surpass it WW .... too bad NA is the main key for the gaming industry rightnow.

may be Move and 3D can change that.

2mrw
Soon? I don't see the PS3 passing up the Xbox 360 worldwide anytime "soon" unless you're talking years down the line.
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#37 XboximusPrime
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Keep in mind where not sure of the sticking power of the new redesigned 360 and also keep in mind PS3s were only really well in stock really last month. So why dont we wait for the next 2 NPDs to properly gauge anything? and even if they dont outsell 360, who cares? That wont make PS3 a failure or anything.

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#38 2mrw
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="2mrw"]

yeah, i guess so, the PS3 won't probably pass the x360 in NA, but soon the PS3 will surpass it WW .... too bad NA is the main key for the gaming industry rightnow.

may be Move and 3D can change that.

Soon? I don't see the PS3 passing up the Xbox 360 worldwide anytime "soon" unless you're talking years down the line.

Mark my words, soon= when the PS3 has its next price drop which will happen in a year at most ... 2mrw has spoken :P .
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Mark my words, soon= when the PS3 has its next price drop which will happen in a year at most ... 2mrw has spoken :P .2mrw
The hardware just became profitable and you think they will lower the price within a year at the most?

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#40 Diviniuz
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The ps3 is outselling the 360 worldwide this year, but with the slim that will probably change. Sony has been closing the gap though
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[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="2mrw"]

yeah, i guess so, the PS3 won't probably pass the x360 in NA, but soon the PS3 will surpass it WW .... too bad NA is the main key for the gaming industry rightnow.

may be Move and 3D can change that.

Soon? I don't see the PS3 passing up the Xbox 360 worldwide anytime "soon" unless you're talking years down the line.

Mark my words, soon= when the PS3 has its next price drop which will happen in a year at most ... 2mrw has spoken :P .

Wait.....once Move comes out, Sony will..........but once Kinect is released Microsoft will...................then Sony will release its 3D tech.................but by then Microsoft will have their next console................here comes Nintendo with their Next gen platform. The war will never end, and thankfully we get to sit back and gather in all the games
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Hypothetically lets say the PS3 does catch up to the X360. They needed basically an entire region to themselves (Japan) to make it happen with 5X the install base last generation. No matter what happens, Sony was outplayed hard this generation. Imagine if RROD happened to PS3 instead of X360. Woulda been an absolute massacreshadow8585
I'm glad you like the 360 so much, but the fact of the matter is, RROD "Didn't" happen on the PS3, and the PS3 is not an absolute massacre. If anything, I can change your view by simply stating that the PS3 is doing awfully well at quickly outselling the 360 worldwide despite its higher price point at launch (and today), debatable inferior online experience, multiplatform title weakness, and its 1 year delay start. What does that indicate to you regarding the momentum of the PS3?
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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]Hypothetically lets say the PS3 does catch up to the X360. They needed basically an entire region to themselves (Japan) to make it happen with 5X the install base last generation. No matter what happens, Sony was outplayed hard this generation. Imagine if RROD happened to PS3 instead of X360. Woulda been an absolute massacreBrainhunter
I'm glad you like the 360 so much, but the fact of the matter is, RROD "Didn't" happen on the PS3, and the PS3 is not an absolute massacre. If anything, I can change your view by simply stating that the PS3 is doing awfully well at quickly outselling the 360 worldwide despite its higher price point at launch (and today), debatable inferior online experience, multiplatform title weakness, and its 1 year delay start. What does that indicate to you regarding the momentum of the PS3?

That it's the hype of the new slim ps3.That's the only reason i bought mine because of that huge price drop.
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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]Hypothetically lets say the PS3 does catch up to the X360. They needed basically an entire region to themselves (Japan) to make it happen with 5X the install base last generation. No matter what happens, Sony was outplayed hard this generation. Imagine if RROD happened to PS3 instead of X360. Woulda been an absolute massacreBrainhunter
I'm glad you like the 360 so much, but the fact of the matter is, RROD "Didn't" happen on the PS3, and the PS3 is not an absolute massacre. If anything, I can change your view by simply stating that the PS3 is doing awfully well at quickly outselling the 360 worldwide despite its higher price point at launch (and today), debatable inferior online experience, multiplatform title weakness, and its 1 year delay start. What does that indicate to you regarding the momentum of the PS3?

Two things that most ps3 fanboys wouldn't dare admit :?

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#45 2mrw
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[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Soon? I don't see the PS3 passing up the Xbox 360 worldwide anytime "soon" unless you're talking years down the line.godzillavskong
Mark my words, soon= when the PS3 has its next price drop which will happen in a year at most ... 2mrw has spoken :P .

Wait.....once Move comes out, Sony will..........but once Kinect is released Microsoft will...................then Sony will release its 3D tech.................but by then Microsoft will have their next console................here comes Nintendo with their Next gen platform. The war will never end, and thankfully we get to sit back and gather in all the games

those are series of events, of which PS3 price cut is the real deal ..... remember when the PS3 slim was introduced with the price cut, that was a real megaton, i dun see other actions with the same immediate and powerful impact as PS3 price cut, even x360 price cut is no match .
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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="2mrw"] Mark my words, soon= when the PS3 has its next price drop which will happen in a year at most ... 2mrw has spoken :P .2mrw
Wait.....once Move comes out, Sony will..........but once Kinect is released Microsoft will...................then Sony will release its 3D tech.................but by then Microsoft will have their next console................here comes Nintendo with their Next gen platform. The war will never end, and thankfully we get to sit back and gather in all the games

those are series of events, of which PS3 price cut is the real deal ..... remember when the PS3 slim was introduced with the price cut, that was a real megaton, i dun see other actions with the same immediate and powerful impact as PS3 price cut, even x360 price cut is no match .

We'll we will see when the June NPD is released eh? I dont know if its impact will be as powerful but the gap between the two consoles in June will be greater than in May thanks in large part to the new sku.

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[QUOTE="2mrw"] Mark my words, soon= when the PS3 has its next price drop which will happen in a year at most ... 2mrw has spoken :P .Stevo_the_gamer

The hardware just became profitable and you think they will lower the price within a year at the most?

hmmm, Sony always sacrificed some money to reach more consumers ..... the PS3 sales are gradually declining (slightly)... at some point, Sony will cut the price no matter what .... after 1 year, i can see the PS3 momentum completely gone which will require another price drop ..... and in the worst case scenario, the x360 gets a price cut, this will force Sony to lower the price again.
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#48 oldkingallant
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Correction: the PS3 will never pass the 360 in North America. However whether it's sales will pass it in Europe or Japan, and ultimately the world, is unknown. Only a 40,000 gap in NA is tiny, the 360 usually whoops the PS3 here.

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#49 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="2mrw"] Mark my words, soon= when the PS3 has its next price drop which will happen in a year at most ... 2mrw has spoken :P .2mrw

The hardware just became profitable and you think they will lower the price within a year at the most?

hmmm, Sony always sacrificed some money to reach more consumers ..... the PS3 sales are gradually declining (slightly)... at some point, Sony will cut the price no matter what .... after 1 year, i can see the PS3 momentum completely gone which will require another price drop ..... and in the worst case scenario, the x360 gets a price cut, this will force Sony to lower the price again.

They're not sacrificing money, they would be losing money if there was a price cut. Why would they go back in the red? I dont see a price cut happening for at least a year.

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#50 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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hmmm, Sony always sacrificed some money to reach more consumers ..... the PS3 sales are gradually declining (slightly)... at some point, Sony will cut the price no matter what .... after 1 year, i can see the PS3 momentum completely gone which will require another price drop ..... and in the worst case scenario, the x360 gets a price cut, this will force Sony to lower the price again.2mrw

I don't see that happening yet again, Sony has been losing money for three and half years on PS3 hardware. I think they found their sweet spot for the price, and the most I can see happening is Move being incorporated into PS3s at no additional cost. I find it highly unlikely a price drop is coming, especially so shortly after the previous price drop.

IGN agrees with me.