Judging By May NPD, PS3 Will Never Pass X360

The fact that you are going to be wrong. I would bet money that playstation 3 will not only outsell xbox 360 but by at least 10 million. It will outsell it because of the blu-ray player and people will be buying it when it hits 150-100$ mark but that is beyond the point. The fact that playstation 3 isn't going to beat it during this generation is a gurantee fact. But it will outsell it.

[QUOTE="2mrw"]hmmm, Sony always sacrificed some money to reach more consumers ..... the PS3 sales are gradually declining (slightly)... at some point, Sony will cut the price no matter what .... after 1 year, i can see the PS3 momentum completely gone which will require another price drop ..... and in the worst case scenario, the x360 gets a price cut, this will force Sony to lower the price again.Stevo_the_gamer

I don't see that happening yet again, Sony has been losing money for three and half years on PS3 hardware. I think they found their sweet spot for the price, and the most I can see happening is Move being incorporated into PS3s at no additional cost. I find it highly unlikely a price drop is coming, especially so shortly after the previous price drop.

IGN agrees with me.

IGN is garbage, get a better source Stevo :) (yes the IGN jab was necessary)

IGN is garbage, get a better source Stevo :) (yes the IGN jab was necessary)

ActicEdge

The fact that you are going to be wrong. I would bet money that playstation 3 will not only outsell xbox 360 but by at least 10 million. It will outsell it because of the blu-ray player and people will be buying it when it hits 150-100$ mark but that is beyond the point. The fact that playstation 3 isn't going to beat it during this generation is a gurantee fact. But it will outsell it.

nhh18

I can see the Wii hitting $149 soon, and probably $99 by the time the PS3 hits $199.

Both at a $199 price point I can see the PS3 outselling the 360s 250GB. The Arcade will need to be at least $149 and probably $99 to keep the 360 competitive at that point.

Although all this isn't likely for a couple of years I imagine.

Judging from Lemmings, America is the whole world.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]IGN is garbage, get a better source Stevo :) (yes the IGN jab was necessary)

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] They're not sacrificing money, they would be losing money if there was a price cut. Why would they go back in the red? I dont see a price cut happening for at least a year.

DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="2mrw"]hmmm, Sony always sacrificed some money to reach more consumers ..... the PS3 sales are gradually declining (slightly)... at some point, Sony will cut the price no matter what .... after 1 year, i can see the PS3 momentum completely gone which will require another price drop ..... and in the worst case scenario, the x360 gets a price cut, this will force Sony to lower the price again.Stevo_the_gamer

I don't see that happening yet again, Sony has been losing money for three and half years on PS3 hardware. I think they found their sweet spot for the price, and the most I can see happening is Move being incorporated into PS3s at no additional cost. I find it highly unlikely a price drop is coming, especially so shortly after the previous price drop.

IGN agrees with me.

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

DroidPhysX

and this thread Fails with a capital F.

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

The fact that you are going to be wrong. I would bet money that playstation 3 will not only outsell xbox 360 but by at least 10 million. It will outsell it because of the blu-ray player and people will be buying it when it hits 150-100$ mark but that is beyond the point. The fact that playstation 3 isn't going to beat it during this generation is a gurantee fact. But it will outsell it.

shinrabanshou

I can see the Wii hitting $149 soon, and probably $99 by the time the PS3 hits $199.

Both at a $199 price point I can see the PS3 outselling the 360s 250GB. The Arcade will need to be at least $149 and probably $99 to keep the 360 competitive at that point.

Although all this isn't likely for a couple of years I imagine.

Hypothetically lets say the PS3 does catch up to the X360. They needed basically an entire region to themselves (Japan) to make it happen with 5X the install base last generation. No matter what happens, Sony was outplayed hard this generation. Imagine if RROD happened to PS3 instead of X360. Woulda been an absolute massacreshadow8585

but yeah,

NA does not equal the world. so your OP fails.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Another home run with an awesome sig!Stevo_the_gamer

Haha, they were so bad lol. On a side note, my team knocked out your country :)

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

The fact that you are going to be wrong. I would bet money that playstation 3 will not only outsell xbox 360 but by at least 10 million. It will outsell it because of the blu-ray player and people will be buying it when it hits 150-100$ mark but that is beyond the point. The fact that playstation 3 isn't going to beat it during this generation is a gurantee fact. But it will outsell it.

nhh18

I can see the Wii hitting $149 soon, and probably $99 by the time the PS3 hits $199.

Both at a $199 price point I can see the PS3 outselling the 360s 250GB. The Arcade will need to be at least $149 and probably $99 to keep the 360 competitive at that point.

Although all this isn't likely for a couple of years I imagine.

At the beginning of the gen it worked against Sony if people bought the PS3 purely as a BluRay player because they wouldn't make up the loss on the hardware, but if they can sell it for a profit as a BluRay player then I doubt they'd mind.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Another home run with an awesome sig!ActicEdge

Haha, they were so bad lol. On a side note, my team knocked out your country :)

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]It's a good thing there's no French that post here. (If there is, I haven't gotten any hate mail yet so all is well. lol!)Chutebox

Haha, they were so bad lol. On a side note, my team knocked out your country :)

Boooo, Ghana all the way!!!!!! Black stars!!!!!

Haha, they were so bad lol. On a side note, my team knocked out your country :)

ActicEdge

Kinect will lauch and people will lose trust in what MS has stood for all these years. Their gonna go from hardcore to casual in a week solid. By byyyy miss american pie.Kokuro_Kun

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]Haha, they were so bad lol. On a side note, my team knocked out your country :)

Stevo_the_gamer

Weak, football is awesome haha. But some replay tech is needed. This world cup certainly proves that for me. And on topic, even if the 360 does get surpassed, I don't actually see it mattering. Its not going to change any developers minds at this point.

Honestly, who really cares at this point? PS3's been getting amazing support now while the 360 is starting to decline in quality. I mean seriously, Kinect looks really lame & I want more exclusives Microsoft if you want me to purchase your friggin console! :x

Anyways, I'll be glad if it doesn't. It's nice to see Sony being humble and giving competiton respect again.:P In the end, better games for all of us! Hopefully next year, we will see some great 360 exclusives!:D

.. Pretty sure it won't happen because if Kinect succeds, Microsoft just found themselves a new bank.-_-

[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Just dropping this off, Famitsu hardware/software sales for the first half of 2010 WII: 934.010 / 10.436.009 PS3: 827.906 / 5.219.313 360: 103.481 / 1.301.354kuu2

Are the second numbers lifetime sales? If so, no one would care if Japan disappeared from the console business. It is the smallest region by a large margin.

If ony I could game with those who dont speak english

[sigh] Look under the surface.

--Microsoft's worldwide 360 sales in fiscal 2009 (April 1, 2009 - March 31, 2010): 8.8 million

[40.2 million sold as of March 31, 2010 - 31.4 million sold as of March 31, 2009] - link

--Sony's worldwide PS3 sales in fiscal 2009 (April 1, 2009 - March 31, 2010): 13 million - link

==================================

By March 31, 2010, 360 sales stood at 40.2 million and PS3 at 35.7. If sales remain even relatively constant the PS3 will be ahead of the 360 next year in worldwide sales. Period.

Have sales remained relatively constant? Let's see:

== NPD comparison, May 2009 vs. May 2010 ==

360 - May 2009: 175,000; May 2010: 194,600 (Up 19,600 units)

PS3 - May 2009: 131,000; May 2010: 154,500 (Up 23,500 units)

==================================

The answer, so far, is yes. Sony's year-over-year increases continue to be higher than the 360's. Assuming similar results worldwide, that would mean the PS3 is actually ahead of track to outselling the 360 next year.

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Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

DroidPhysX

Well America is the economic bastion of the world and the 360 doing better here does matter since there are more gamers than the gamers in japan who favor the Ps3 and Europe I think 360 is doing better idk

Some may not agree since it's just NPD. So what year will the PS3 be second place again, 2011, 2012, 2013...?

To be honest, I don't think it really matters anymore since the Xbox brand did it's job and took a chuck of the Playstation marketshare already. You can't take that back this gen anymore, you have to start fresh.

Just dropping this off, Famitsu hardware/software sales for the first half of 2010 WII: 934.010 / 10.436.009 PS3: 827.906 / 5.219.313 360: 103.481 / 1.301.354Rockman999

PS3: 552,601

360: 214,221 [link]

Year-over-year, 360 decreased from 214,221 to 103,481. PS3 increased from 552,601 to 827,906.

Man, things are looking just awful for the PS3!

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

wooooode

[QUOTE="wooooode"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

SakusEnvoy

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

In order for us to have a better picture we would need proper monthly sales figures for Europe, but that is nearly impossible.. So far what we can deduct is that 360 usually sells more in NA, while PS3 sells more in Japan.. Europe is a big ? :)

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

delta3074

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

delta3074

I posted a graph from Nintendo's Investor relations for Europe as a whole, that Nintendo compiled from Gfk-ChartTrack data a few posts up.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Sorry TC:

NPD =/= World

delta3074

well keep in mind that UK is not EUROPE either... so while it may enjoy better sales in UK, situation in other large countries like France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc may be different.. To solve this situation each country would require something that give figures on a monthly basis at least for the larger countries in Europe in order to have a good indication on which system is doing better when it comes to sales..

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] You win this thread. North America is the ONLY region where the 360 outsells the PS3.SakusEnvoy

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] You win this thread. North America is the ONLY region where the 360 outsells the PS3.shinrabanshou

I posted a graph from Nintendo's Investor relations for Europe as a whole, that Nintendo compiled from Gfk-ChartTrack data a few posts up.

Hypothetically lets say the PS3 does catch up to the X360. They needed basically an entire region to themselves (Japan) to make it happen with 5X the install base last generation. No matter what happens, Sony was outplayed hard this generation. Imagine if RROD happened to PS3 instead of X360. Woulda been an absolute massacreshadow8585

well, um....why do you think the 360 had faulty hardware?....it didn't help that it was rushed to be released to the market....so if the 360 didn't have have RROD, it would have most likely released at the same time with both the Wii and PS3...

then what do you think would have happened?

who would have been outselling who?.....what would have 3rd Party developers done if the PS3 had a sells advantage at the time?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] ... shinrabanshou just posted a chart from Nintendo showing the hardware sales of the PS3 and 360 in Europe this year with the PS3 clearly ahead...

sts106mat

If you mean individually, Japan yes, Continental Europe no.

The Japanese market is now smaller than the UK market, but it's not dwarfed by it, and the totality of continental Europe's combined markets is not smaller than the UK's.

The PS3 MSRP is still 50 GBP more expensive than the Elite.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] ... shinrabanshou just posted a chart from Nintendo showing the hardware sales of the PS3 and 360 in Europe this year with the PS3 clearly ahead...sts106mat