Judging the value of a $250 Wii to a $299 PS3.

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#51 shoryuken_
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Ok, now it is official, does this change anyones opinion? Is the Slim PS3 appealing enough to sell mass market like the Wii?

Videodogg

This changed my opinion. I wanted a PS3 before, but the price was too much. This announcement makes me want to get a job and buy the Slim.

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#54 videogamedead03
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199$ sold
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#55 Lionheart08
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Ok, now it is official, does this change anyones opinion? Is the Slim PS3 appealing enough to sell mass market like the Wii?

Videodogg

I might get a PS3 in January for the winter semester. If Sony is smart they'll capatilize on their new found momentum and bundle Uncharted 2 in the for Christmas and God of War 3 next year.

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#56 PublicNuisance
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I use an Ethernet cable I feel old school :(, and yeah not many true console HD game exist yet on any system.

and of course, I personaly found m 360 well worth the investment :D

salxis

I use ethernet cables as well, but wireless user bases are growing. I am happy you think it is a good investment for you, I just think that looking at what you get for what you pay for the PS3 does throw a lot of stuff in. if you don't use the stuff then it isn't a good deal, but if you do then it is a great bonus.

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#57 aero250
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The wii needs a price drop.
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#58 -TheSecondSign-
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PS3 IMO.

I have a Wii and I don't even play it. I played TP, MP3, WaW, and a couple of other games, but I didn't even like TP or WaW.

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#59 clubsammich91
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This raises a very important question. Where the hell is a Wii price cut? If the 360 arcade is 200$ and the cheapest PS3 is 299$, then why is that hunk of white plastic still 250?
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#60 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="badtaker"] but cows don't care of sales then why are you shouting.Pale-Folklore

No gamer should care about sales. Doesn´t benefit them in any way.

Yes it does.

R.I.P Xenosaga :(

You didn't read the whole thread did ya?

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#61 Videodogg
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This raises a very important question. Where the hell is a Wii price cut? If the 360 arcade is 200$ and the cheapest PS3 is 299$, then why is that hunk of white plastic still 250?clubsammich91
Why is the $250 Wii out selling the ps3 and 360 combined? That is the real question. Does it really matter what the ps3 and 360 cost at this point?
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#62 videogamedead03
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[QUOTE="salxis"]

I use an Ethernet cable I feel old school :(, and yeah not many true console HD game exist yet on any system.

and of course, I personaly found m 360 well worth the investment :D

PublicNuisance

I use ethernet cables as well, but wireless user bases are growing. I am happy you think it is a good investment for you, I just think that looking at what you get for what you pay for the PS3 does throw a lot of stuff in. if you don't use the stuff then it isn't a good deal, but if you do then it is a great bonus.

lol easier for someone to steal ur net using wifi
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#63 Classic24
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this upcoming holiday season will be a good measurement of the playstation 3 brand power, i predicts the wii will stay at the top but the ps3 will probably surpass the 360, only a moron would buy an elite now
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#64 clubsammich91
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]This raises a very important question. Where the hell is a Wii price cut? If the 360 arcade is 200$ and the cheapest PS3 is 299$, then why is that hunk of white plastic still 250?Videodogg
Why is the $250 Wii out selling the ps3 and 360 combined? That is the real question. Does it really matter what the ps3 and 360 cost at this point?

Tech wise the Wii is over priced, plane and simple. Sure the masses are still flocking to it, but that doesn't change the fact that the system hasn't seen a triple A title since February of last year(SSBB)

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#65 NielsNL
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this upcoming holiday season will be a good measurement of the playstation 3 brand power, i predicts the wii will stay at the top but the ps3 will probably surpass the 360, only a moron would buy an elite nowClassic24

If it surpasses the 360 it sure as hell won't be during this holiday season.

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#66 Pale-Folklore
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You didn't read the whole thread did ya?

NielsNL

I read up to what I quoted, so it shouldn't matter.

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#67 WTA2k5
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The PS3 doesn't have waggle , and both aren't exactly going after the same demographic. Probably at least 80% of Wii owners are female or pre-teens.

Nike_Air
That's a great fake statistic. Anyway, I think that now that decision for a hardcore gamer between a Wii and a PS3 is pretty obvious, but I think casual gamers will still flock to the Wii.
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#68 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

You didn't read the whole thread did ya?

Pale-Folklore

I read up to what I quoted, so it shouldn't matter.

Yeah.. just read the rest please. Someone already said the same as you and I commented on it. I'm not going to repeat myself because you are too lazy to read the whole thread.

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#69 ManicAce
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360 arcade didn't stop the wii so I don't think ps3 will either. It's just different audiences bying them.
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#70 Pale-Folklore
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Yeah.. just read the rest please. Someone already said the same as you and I commented on it. I'm not going to repeat myself because you are too lazy to read the whole thread.

NielsNL

Gee, I just read it and I can't believe you are moaning for that. It isn't really the same, several sequels are constantly being discontinued or moved to handhelds to lower the budget and try a different audience.

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#71 LegendofNerd
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Tech wise the Wii is over priced, plane and simple. Sure the masses are still flocking to it, but that doesn't change the fact that the system hasn't seen a triple A title since February of last year(SSBB)

clubsammich91

Not quite.

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#72 clubsammich91
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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Tech wise the Wii is over priced, plane and simple. Sure the masses are still flocking to it, but that doesn't change the fact that the system hasn't seen a triple A title since February of last year(SSBB)

LegendofNerd

Not quite.

Really? A golf game? That's the best the system has to offer?
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#73 jakarai
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I just hope this is the final model and they stick with it. No more two different PS3s on the market at the same time.
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#74 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Yeah.. just read the rest please. Someone already said the same as you and I commented on it. I'm not going to repeat myself because you are too lazy to read the whole thread.

Pale-Folklore

Gee, I just read it and I can't believe you are moaning for that. It isn't really the same, several sequels are constantly being discontinued or moved to handhelds to lower the budget and try a different audience.

Well you sure didn't read very well, because I have no clue what your reason is for bringing up budgets and moving sequels to handhelds. Also not sure where 'several' is coming from, because I know of no cancelled sequels and one game moving to the PSP (VC).

I said sales don't matter directly to gamers unless they either own stock in a company or they're so low that support for a console could be in danger, which isn't the case for any current gen console. If that's what you're disagreeing with I'm not sure why, but I can guess... I guess it's because you have difficulties with any situation where someone else is right. Well I have some bad news for you, you'll encounter more of those as you grow up..

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#75 Videodogg
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I just hope this is the final model and they stick with it. No more two different PS3s on the market at the same time.jakarai
Well, Sony is kind of fighting itself with the $250 PSP Go. I wonder which will sell the most....psp go or ps3 slim?
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#76 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="jakarai"]I just hope this is the final model and they stick with it. No more two different PS3s on the market at the same time.Videodogg
Well, Sony is kind of fighting itself with the $250 PSP Go. I wonder which will sell the most....psp go or ps3 slim?

I put my money on the slim.

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#77 hanslacher54
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A Blu ray player, internet browser, free online, photo storer, music player, and game player is very good for $300.

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#78 LegendofNerd
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[QUOTE="LegendofNerd"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Tech wise the Wii is over priced, plane and simple. Sure the masses are still flocking to it, but that doesn't change the fact that the system hasn't seen a triple A title since February of last year(SSBB)

clubsammich91

Not quite.

Really? A golf game? That's the best the system has to offer?

The best the system has to offer? Maybe... maybe not. But it's still considered a AAA game here on GS and SW, and that's all that matters here, really.

And I'd suggest you actually try playing it. It really is that good.

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Well you sure didn't read very well, because I have no clue what your reason is for bringing up budgets and moving sequels to handhelds. Also not sure where 'several' is coming from, because I know of no cancelled sequels and one game moving to the PSP (VC).

I said sales don't matter directly to gamers unless they either own stock in a company or they're so low that support for a console could be in danger, which isn't the case for any current gen console. If that's what you're disagreeing with I'm not sure why, but I can guess... I guess it's because you have difficulties with any situation where someone else is right. Well I have some bad news for you, you'll encounter more of those as you grow up..

NielsNL

Jesus.

You said sales don't matter to gamers, I told you they do (because of sequels). Then you told me to look for another post where you supposedly answered the same thing I just mentioned (which isn't true, you were talking about consoles there, not sequels).

1- The several comes from: Valkyrie Profile, DQ, Chrono games (SE's VP specifically said it was because of the sales), Valkyria chronicles, Megaten and a big etc.

Then there are the games that get ports instead of sequels to see how the game does nowadays.

2- Sales matter to gamers because several of our beloved franchises are being either, discontinued or "watered down" because of them (It works the other way around, too). I don't see why this is so hard to understand. Ask the millions of chrono trigger fans what they felt when they read this:

http://purenintendo.com/2009/06/06/square-enix-if-you-want-more-chrono-trigger-buy-more-chrono-trigger/

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#80 Willy105
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Considering the Wii would be played the most, the Wii would have better value. They are both still very expensive.
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#81 Willy105
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[QUOTE="LegendofNerd"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Tech wise the Wii is over priced, plane and simple. Sure the masses are still flocking to it, but that doesn't change the fact that the system hasn't seen a triple A title since February of last year(SSBB)

clubsammich91

Not quite.

Really? A golf game? That's the best the system has to offer?

Wii Sports Resort is better in my opinion.
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#82 ActicEdge
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It wasn't a rip off to me when I bought it but its definitely a rip off now. Should be $180 - 150 now.

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#83 Philhellene
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It wasn't a rip off to me when I bought it but its definitely a rip off now. Should be $180 - 150 now.

ActicEdge
That hunk of plastic should be selling for $50 like Dreamcast did in its final years.
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#84 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

It wasn't a rip off to me when I bought it but its definitely a rip off now. Should be $180 - 150 now.

Philhellene

That hunk of plastic should be selling for $50 like Dreamcast did in its final years.

Nah, I say $180 - 150.

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[QUOTE="Philhellene"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

It wasn't a rip off to me when I bought it but its definitely a rip off now. Should be $180 - 150 now.

ActicEdge

That hunk of plastic should be selling for $50 like Dreamcast did in its final years.

Nah, I say $180 - 150.

Sounds about right. In competition with stuff at 400-600 dollars, 250 is okay, but when there's stuff leaps and bounds ahead of it for just 50 dollars more...
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The PS3 doesn't have waggle , and both aren't exactly going after the same demographic. Probably at least 80% of Wii owners are female or pre-teens.

Nike_Air
the ps3 does have waggle... its called six-axis
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If Nintendo lowered the price of the Wii -- it would bury the PS3 in sales. :?
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#88 yoshi_64
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Considering a 360 arcade can be bought cheaper compared to a Wii, it won't make any difference still. The Wii has mass market appeal, the software sells and PS3 doesn't have software for the mass market. I'm not saying this as a good thing though, I love my PS3/360 games more than my Wii games.
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#89 ActicEdge
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If Nintendo lowered the price of the Wii -- it would bury the PS3 in sales. :?Stevo_the_gamer

Let the, think the way the do. Its better for them lol.

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#90 patriots7672
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A $299 PS3 and a slim version will help tremendously. But theirs brainwashed people and there's Wiiwashing going on for some reason?! I don't know what is appealing about the Wii? My nephews both own them and it's mind boggling.

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#91 PannicAtack
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A $299 PS3 and a slim version will help tremendously. But theirs brainwashed people and there's Wiiwashing going on for some reason?! I don't know what is appealing about the Wii? My nephews both own them and it's mind boggling.

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The Wii is appealing if you want the games on it. It's that way with every system.
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#92 themyth01
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A ps3 is probably worth about 5 Wiis.
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#93 SexySasquatch11
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A ps3 is probably worth about 5 Wiis. themyth01

:o then I'm getting close to having a PS3. Currently have 3 sitting at the house, and I've bought 4 since launch. We also have 3 360's and 0 PS3's. If I buy 1 more Wii I can get a PS3 finally!!!!!

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[QUOTE="themyth01"] A ps3 is probably worth about 5 Wiis. SexySasquatch11

:o then I'm getting close to having a PS3. Currently have 3 sitting at the house, and I've bought 4 since launch. We also have 3 360's and 0 PS3's. If I buy 1 more Wii I can get a PS3 finally!!!!!

You can probably get more PS3s lol, I was referring to value not price.
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#95 EmperorSupreme
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As an owner of both the PS3 and Wii I can honestly say the PS3 is 10x the system the Wii is. Personally I thought the Wii was a little overpriced at launch. For today it's horribly overpriced, but Nintendo is still selling them so why should they lower it?
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#96 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="SexySasquatch11"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] A ps3 is probably worth about 5 Wiis. themyth01

:o then I'm getting close to having a PS3. Currently have 3 sitting at the house, and I've bought 4 since launch. We also have 3 360's and 0 PS3's. If I buy 1 more Wii I can get a PS3 finally!!!!!

You can probably get more PS3s lol, I was referring to value not price.

But value is based on individual consumer preference. What has value to one may not have value to another.

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

The PS3 doesn't have waggle , and both aren't exactly going after the same demographic. Probably at least 80% of Wii owners are female or pre-teens.

I call for a suspension here. Highly sexist, ageist statement. Please prove your superior knowledge.
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#98 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

The PS3 doesn't have waggle , and both aren't exactly going after the same demographic. Probably at least 80% of Wii owners are female or pre-teens.

tirralirra

I call for a suspension here. Highly sexist, ageist statement. Please prove your superior knowledge.

This isn't suspension worthy :|
Its just regular everyday stupid SW comments.

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#99 themyth01
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="SexySasquatch11"]

:o then I'm getting close to having a PS3. Currently have 3 sitting at the house, and I've bought 4 since launch. We also have 3 360's and 0 PS3's. If I buy 1 more Wii I can get a PS3 finally!!!!!

ActicEdge

You can probably get more PS3s lol, I was referring to value not price.

But value is based on individual consumer preference. What has value to one may not have value to another.

Objectively value is the amount of features/performance per $$. Preferences do not dictate value otherwise the Wii would be considered much more valuable than PS3 just because so many more people prefer it, however that's not the case.

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#100 EmperorSupreme
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Considering the Wii would be played the most, the Wii would have better value. They are both still very expensive.Willy105

The Wii is played the least according to Nielsen data.

Nielsen