Judging the value of a $250 Wii to a $299 PS3.

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#101 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] You can probably get more PS3s lol, I was referring to value not price. themyth01

But value is based on individual consumer preference. What has value to one may not have value to another.

Not really. Value is the amount of features/performance per $$. Preferences do not dictate value otherwise the Wii would be considered much more valuable than PS3 just because so many more people prefer it, however that's not the case.

I've been under the assumption that there is 2 types of value. The most common one is the one that isn't the same for every individual. It changes from person to person based on preference and desire. Then I assume there is something like market value or product value where it is measured up against its features and components. But preference does play a role in value as far as I know since it varies person to person.

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#102 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]Considering the Wii would be played the most, the Wii would have better value. They are both still very expensive.EmperorSupreme

The Wii is played the least according to Nielsen data.

Nielsen

But isn't those stats in ratio with the amount of users in all?

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#103 haziqonfire
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The playstation brand is strong, though I think most of those PS2 consumers from last generation have moved on already - to Wii, Xbox 360 or handhelds - the PS3's price point was just too much for the average consumer. We'll see what the result of the price drop is shortly though.
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#104 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]Considering the Wii would be played the most, the Wii would have better value. They are both still very expensive.EmperorSupreme

The Wii is played the least according to Nielsen data.

Nielsen

Ouch.

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#105 AzatiS
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The problem of Nintendo is that already Wii hardware and its games decline (number of sales )..

DECLINE though DOESNT mean isnt doin good , actually BETTER than the competition (x360 -Ps3 ) even with the decline of last year ( almost)

Imho , there will be a slight drop for Wii in the next months down to 199$...

Sorry for Nintendo Fans but ill say it --- >

FOR A PIECE OF JUNK ( hardware wise).... that dont cost more than 50$ overall 250 is already very high price. Wii is not overpriced now that PS3 is at 299$. Wii is overpriced years now . And dont expect a major cut imo from nintendo. I bet here and quote this , that next cut will be at 199 with probably a game or something.We wont see lower price from this gen's ... $$ dracula.

This is my opinion ofcourse.

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#106 SexySasquatch11
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[QUOTE="themyth01"] A ps3 is probably worth about 5 Wiis. themyth01

:o then I'm getting close to having a PS3. Currently have 3 sitting at the house, and I've bought 4 since launch. We also have 3 360's and 0 PS3's. If I buy 1 more Wii I can get a PS3 finally!!!!!

You can probably get more PS3s lol, I was referring to value not price.

We've officially got our first PS3 now! Got the little big planet and walle combo. Now I gotta pick up uncharted and maybe MGS4 so i can finish it and maybe InFamous. One PS3 down 2 to go...

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#107 kweeni
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i think a 299$ ps3 could sell alot, especially if bundled with gt5. and tbh i think the wii is overpriced
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#108 rp108
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I don't think it will outsell the Wii. The Wii is selling because of it's games that are not on the PS3. You can see this by looking at the last NPD chart. I don't think most people are going to look at value they are just going to see one is still cheaper and has the games they want. If they cared about value they would be buying the 360.PublicNuisance

How is the 360 value ? NO HD cables (from now on), online costs money, hardware is full of fail, wireless costs money, charging the controllers cost money, most games on 360 go to PC, how is this value ?

No HD Cables - I remember not getting an HDMI cable with my PS3

Online costs money - Silver is free and Gold is worth every penny compared to PSN and Nintendo's service

Hardware full of fail - Has been fixed for sometime now, and Microsoft gave an three year warranty. Something Sony doesn't offer with the PS3

Wireless costs money - Good, I don't use it and don't want to pay for it like I did with my PS3.

Charging controllers cost money - Don't know how to even respond to that

Most games on 360 go to PC - That is flat out wrong but guess what, the PC games on the 360 you aren't playing because apparently $50 a year and $80 for a wifi adapter is too much so there is no way you are paying $400 or more for a graphics card on your PC.

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#109 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]Considering the Wii would be played the most, the Wii would have better value. They are both still very expensive.EmperorSupreme

The Wii is played the least according to Nielsen data.

Nielsen

Such wierd data...Look at last month 7 of the top 20 titles on the NPD were Wii games. You would have to take both the PS3 and 360 together to equal the number of Wii titles on the list. So what are they buying more games but not playing them?

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#110 juno84
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

But value is based on individual consumer preference. What has value to one may not have value to another.

ActicEdge

Not really. Value is the amount of features/performance per $$. Preferences do not dictate value otherwise the Wii would be considered much more valuable than PS3 just because so many more people prefer it, however that's not the case.

I've been under the assumption that there is 2 types of value. The most common one is the one that isn't the same for every individual. It changes from person to person based on preference and desire. Then I assume there is something like market value or product value where it is measured up against its features and components. But preference does play a role in value as far as I know since it varies person to person.

Market value is the highest price the market can bear for a product. Since Wii has a fixed price, we don't really know what it's market value is. It could be even higher than $250. Value, in general, is what you are getting both in terms of features and figures in cost. Cost is how much it costs per unit to manufacture. The Wii's market value is way very high relative to it's manufacturing costs, while $250 is possibly low price compared to it's market value.

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#111 EazyD91
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So, it's about sales now, when the next NPD comes around I pretty sure it's going to be about exclusives, again
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#112 TalesofRaGnArOk
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Well, a hundred dollars off the top certainly did peak my interest. Too bad about the BC, but still, with a Wii and ps3, I'd be getting the best of both exclusives (multiplats to a lesser extent - the Wii has none)

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#113 mgfarmer
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Nintendo really doesnt have a choice now but to lower the price if the want to stay competitive. With they PS3 and 360 both at $299 they are better values. The PS3 has put itself in a very good position. For $299 you are now getting a blue ray player, wi fi, freeand free internet.

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#114 Senor_Kami
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I think they're aimed at different markets. For the market that loves the Wii, what PS3 games appeal to them? The 360 and PS3 crowd kinda spits on and laughs at everything that makes Nintendo fans Nintendo fans. The closest any of the systems come to a Wii game is Viva Pinata on 360 and LBP on PS3.
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#115 -TheSecondSign-
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Underneath what criteria?

If its a technical standpoint, to deny the Playstation 3 is a better deal is downright fanboyism. It is a better deal.

To compare its online is, again, a joke.

To compare their libraries however, is completely different. THAT is where the comparison should be made, because anyone who denys the PS3 is the best console in terms of hardware(Online is more debateable) is a fanboy.

Its the same as the DS vs PSP arguments.

Yeah, the PSP has better hardware, but which one has the games you like?

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#116 thelastguy
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The Wii is overpriced, and has been for a long while now

I predict sales will be lower than last year, but not by much