Kaz: The biggest misconception is that people think the Xbox 360 is as powerful.

HiHD: What are the primary erroneous points of information/misconceptions out there in blogger-land about PS3 in general and vs Xbox?

HIRAI: I have heard many people say our competitors' systems are just as powerful as PS3. That simply is not true. No other next-generation entertainment system pushes the envelope on advanced technology like PS3. I have heard people say that a high-capacity game delivery vehicle like Blu-ray isn't necessary in a next-generation computer entertainment system. You just can't expect that the 9 GBs of storage capacity found on today's DVDs are going to have enough space to hold tomorrow's games. Developers have already pushed the DVD to its limits in terms of space used. We had games like 'Resistance: Fall of Man' coming in 16 GBs at launch. That game simply wouldn't be possible on any other system without using multiple discs. There is no doubt in my mind that you need more capacity on discs for truly next-generation gaming, and Blu-ray gives us that space.

http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/inside_detail.php?id=11

what a load of crap.---OkeyDokey---

agreed

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]what a load of crap.smurf999

agreed

Its true, but atm it isnt needed... give it a year or maybe 2, till we see the differences, MGS4 will show us this and if it doesnt killzone 2 WILL definetly show us thistherealmcc0y

"What a load of crap".

Well, what a comprehensive comeback to his points.

HiHD: What are the primary erroneous points of information/misconceptions out there in blogger-land about PS3 in general and vs Xbox?

HIRAI: I have heard many people say our competitors' systems are just as powerful as PS3. That simply is not true. No other next-generation entertainment system pushes the envelope on advanced technology like PS3. I have heard people say that a high-capacity game delivery vehicle like Blu-ray isn't necessary in a next-generation computer entertainment system. You just can't expect that the 9 GBs of storage capacity found on today's DVDs are going to have enough space to hold tomorrow's games. Developers have already pushed the DVD to its limits in terms of space used. We had games like 'Resistance: Fall of Man' coming in 16 GBs at launch. That game simply wouldn't be possible on any other system without using multiple discs. There is no doubt in my mind that you need more capacity on discs for truly next-generation gaming, and Blu-ray gives us that space.

http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/inside_detail.php?id=11

roadkill88

He's hardly going to talk up his competition is he? just another display of Sony BS... as for BR storage and not being able to fit games like Resistance on DVD, Enchanted Arms fit perfectly well on a DVD but took up 13Gb on a Blu-Ray disk... but the PS3 version did come with added slow down and tearing.

Nothing more than Sony talking out its rear once again.

You would say that its just PR junk, but sadly, I think that most of these execs at these companies really believe the junk that that say.

I own all three, and when the PS3 produces something that the 360 cannot, or vice versa, in concrete terms, I will buy into the "System X is more powerful than System Y" stuff. Until then, the seem to be pretty evenly matched.

"What a load of crap".

Well, what a comprehensive comeback to his points.

roadkill88

So? It's true. This has been confirmed by developers and scientists for the past 2 years. I expect the lemming will likely say "But teh superior multiplats". Get over yourselves this has nothing to do with the discussion. Truth-slayer

So, we are to take the words of developers loyal to Sony and scientists who are looking at the computational skills of the Cell and not the system as a gaming machine as "proof", while at the same time ignoring the real world, visual evidence?

Kaz: "We're really much better as a system...it's just that our games suck. But that shouldn't be a consideration for the public. They should give me more money anyway and trust that in a year or two they will actually have a game worth playing. You think it's easy to make cookie-cutter rip-offs of games like Halo an Gears of War even with Blu-Ray?"RojAvon

"And don't, in any way shape or form, take the removal of a number of USB ports and card readers from the new 40Gb versions as an admission that they weren't needed in the first place and that they were just slapped in there to bump the price up and make it look more like a PC.... nope.... we wouldn't do a sneaky thing like that... honest."

[QUOTE="Truth-slayer"]So? It's true. This has been confirmed by developers and scientists for the past 2 years. I expect the lemming will likely say "But teh superior multiplats". Get over yourselves this has nothing to do with the discussion. SpruceCaboose

So, we are to take the words of developers loyal to Sony and scientists who are looking at the computational skills of the Cell and not the system as a gaming machine as "proof", while at the same time ignoring the real world, visual evidence?

Note to Sony: If you want to proove something then put out some good games and stop with all the chin-music about how great you "will be".

He's using false information to try to hit the X360's weak points for massive damage.lhughey

He should be putting his own house in order before having a go at the competition.

Well, you all know he is right. You could argue if it is worth it to you. But you know he is right.elms1

Well, you all know he is right. You could argue if it is worth it to you. But you know he is right.elms1

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]

HiHD: What are the primary erroneous points of information/misconceptions out there in blogger-land about PS3 in general and vs Xbox?

HIRAI: I have heard many people say our competitors' systems are just as powerful as PS3. That simply is not true. No other next-generation entertainment system pushes the envelope on advanced technology like PS3. I have heard people say that a high-capacity game delivery vehicle like Blu-ray isn't necessary in a next-generation computer entertainment system. You just can't expect that the 9 GBs of storage capacity found on today's DVDs are going to have enough space to hold tomorrow's games. Developers have already pushed the DVD to its limits in terms of space used. We had games like 'Resistance: Fall of Man' coming in 16 GBs at launch. That game simply wouldn't be possible on any other system without using multiple discs. There is no doubt in my mind that you need more capacity on discs for truly next-generation gaming, and Blu-ray gives us that space.

http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/inside_detail.php?id=11

TTDog

He's hardly going to talk up his competition is he? just another display of Sony BS... as for BR storage and not being able to fit games like Resistance on DVD, Enchanted Arms fit perfectly well on a DVD but took up 13Gb on a Blu-Ray disk... but the PS3 version did come with added slow down and tearing.

Nothing more than Sony talking out its rear once again.

TTDOG Notice a similarity in our AVATARS??? :P

[QUOTE="elms1"]Well, you all know he is right. You could argue if it is worth it to you. But you know he is right.---OkeyDokey---

Haha pwnage approved.

[QUOTE="elms1"]Well, you all know he is right. You could argue if it is worth it to you. But you know he is right.SecretPolice

Just because Sony pays him to love their stuff does not mean he is biased...

as my girlfriend says, its not what youve got, its what you do with it doobie1975

[QUOTE="roadkill88"]

HiHD: What are the primary erroneous points of information/misconceptions out there in blogger-land about PS3 in general and vs Xbox?

HIRAI: I have heard many people say our competitors' systems are just as powerful as PS3. That simply is not true. No other next-generation entertainment system pushes the envelope on advanced technology like PS3. I have heard people say that a high-capacity game delivery vehicle like Blu-ray isn't necessary in a next-generation computer entertainment system. You just can't expect that the 9 GBs of storage capacity found on today's DVDs are going to have enough space to hold tomorrow's games. Developers have already pushed the DVD to its limits in terms of space used. We had games like 'Resistance: Fall of Man' coming in 16 GBs at launch. That game simply wouldn't be possible on any other system without using multiple discs. There is no doubt in my mind that you need more capacity on discs for truly next-generation gaming, and Blu-ray gives us that space.

http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/inside_detail.php?id=11

TTDog

He's hardly going to talk up his competition is he? just another display of Sony BS... as for BR storage and not being able to fit games like Resistance on DVD, Enchanted Arms fit perfectly well on a DVD but took up 13Gb on a Blu-Ray disk... but the PS3 version did come with added slow down and tearing.

Nothing more than Sony talking out its rear once again.

I agree. Kaz is desperately trying to do some P.R. damage control, nothing more. By the way, nice Ichi the Killer avatar. :)

I'd like to believe you Kaz, but from everything i've seen, nothing backs up your claim....:(

c'mon sony... haven't you learned that hype doesn't do it anymore?

i almost wish crazy kenny was still running the show...

YOU TRY FITTING THAT ON A DVD.

It ain't gonna happen.

[QUOTE="Truth-slayer"]So? It's true. This has been confirmed by developers and scientists for the past 2 years. I expect the lemming will likely say "But teh superior multiplats". Get over yourselves this has nothing to do with the discussion. SpruceCaboose

So, we are to take the words of developers loyal to Sony and scientists who are looking at the computational skills of the Cell and not the system as a gaming machine as "proof", while at the same time ignoring the real world, visual evidence?

O rly?

Because the games I'm playing look better, and have more content, than anything on the PS3 right now.

YOU TRY FITTING THAT ON A DVD.

It ain't gonna happen.

NECR0CHILD313

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Truth-slayer"]So? It's true. This has been confirmed by developers and scientists for the past 2 years. I expect the lemming will likely say "But teh superior multiplats". Get over yourselves this has nothing to do with the discussion. Truth-slayer

So, we are to take the words of developers loyal to Sony and scientists who are looking at the computational skills of the Cell and not the system as a gaming machine as "proof", while at the same time ignoring the real world, visual evidence?

Those would all run on a 360. I have saw nothing from those that could not be done on a 360.

I still believe the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, but not for the reasons the TC gave. I also believe that in some areas it is weaker though.

as my girlfriend says, its not what youve got, its what you do with it doobie1975

As my girlfriend says, "God I'm glad you're huge"

I think its better to have the space and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

I think all of what he says is true. There just isn't substancial proof of it yet. The day will come.The_Crucible

I don't see it being substantially more powerful. I hope it is, but I don't see it happening.

RIIIIIIIDDDDGEEE RACER!!!tratyu92

:lol:

[QUOTE="doobie1975"]as my girlfriend says, its not what youve got, its what you do with it TheSystemLord1

As my girlfriend says, "God I'm glad you're huge"

I think its better to have the space and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Question: why is Resistance 16 GB? What about the game makes it use up so much space compared to, say, Bioshock or Halo 3? Pre-rendered cinematics?

Of course, It's highly possible that Sony was encouraging Insomniac to use up as much space as possible so that they could advertise to the world, for marketing purposes, that Resistance is not possible on any other hardware platform because of the limitations of DVD and this marketing tactic is still being used today.

Whatever. When Xbox 360 starts losing third-party titles to PS3 where they end up being exclusive, then I'll start believing what Kaz has to say.

[QUOTE="Truth-slayer"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Truth-slayer"]So? It's true. This has been confirmed by developers and scientists for the past 2 years. I expect the lemming will likely say "But teh superior multiplats". Get over yourselves this has nothing to do with the discussion. SpruceCaboose

So, we are to take the words of developers loyal to Sony and scientists who are looking at the computational skills of the Cell and not the system as a gaming machine as "proof", while at the same time ignoring the real world, visual evidence?

Those would all run on a 360. I have saw nothing from those that could not be done on a 360.

Agreed

as my girlfriend says, its not what youve got, its what you do with it doobie1975

Why does your girlfriend say that?

Let me know when a ps3 game looks better than 360, by a noticable degree.And no Killzone 2 and Gt 5 do not count, they look simliar enough to some 360 games.

Until that day, I could care less which system is more powerful

Question: why is Resistance 16 GB? What about the game makes it use up so much space compared to, say, Bioshock or Halo 3? Pre-rendered cinematics?

Of course, It's highly possible that Sony was encouraging Insomniac to use up as much space as possible so that they could advertise to the world, for marketing purposes, that Resistance is not possible on any other hardware platform because of the limitations of DVD and this marketing tactic is still being used today.

Whatever. When Xbox 360 starts losing third-party titles to PS3 where they end up being exclusive, then I'll start believing what Kaz has to say.

thinicer

Why use compression if you do not have to? Insomniac did not need to compress Resistance, so they didn't. Same reason a lossless audio file is huge compared to a relatively small mp3 file.

Could Resistance fit on a DVD? In its current state, no, but with proper compression, it would easily have fit on a DVD-9.

I still believe the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, but not for the reasons the TC gave. I also believe that in some areas it is weaker though.

SgtWhiskeyjack

both very different in build, maybe on paper ps3 but in the real world not gonna happen