Kaz: The biggest misconception is that people think the Xbox 360 is as powerful.

Kaz surprised me. I was expecting him to use the buzzwords "high-definition" and "next-generation" a lot more than he did. He didn't even call the PS3 the "only true HD experience"! :o

Hey, they're finally starting to learn over there at Sony. Whack them over the head a few times, and it slowly begins to dawn on them.

1 level in Killzone 2 is 2gigs and DVD is 9gigs

Killzone would not fit on a dvdGarchomPro

Lol every level looks the same so it is all just reused textures. Sounds? All the Helghast do is make the same grunt over and over again. Killzone and its 256 bit textures will fit on my DVD 9.

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1 level in Killzone 2 is 2gigs and DVD is 9gigs

Killzone would not fit on a dvdAntikytheraMech

Lol every level looks the same so it is all just reused textures. Sounds? All the Helghast do is make the same grunt over and over again. Killzone and its 256 bit textures will fit on my DVD 9.

try to keep it real. or inform yourself.

Well guess what.......START SHOWING IT!!!

Make the Multiplats better and the Exclusives stand out more! (although Heavenly Sword and Uncharted do look freakin' amazing).

But the best way to show this would be if multiplats would start to become better on the PS3 than on the 360. Sony needs to open their pockets and show these developers some money so that the PS3 becomes the lead platform for some of these titles. Screw this "we don't pay for games" crap they talk about. MS and 360 are over there throwing boat loads of cash at people like the Rockstar for exlusives 360 content, while Sony sits on its laurels and waits for devs to come. Well guess what, that's not gonna work this gen because you initially price yours console so high that the PS3 has the smallest install base and devs don't want to work on the PS3 first. Maybe these NBA Live ads showing that it's on PS3 at the end of the commercial (instead of it normally being the 360 logo) are a sign of changes going on.

Get a clue Sony. Seriously

Over time, you'll learn to ignore anything Kaz or Ken says.

Well, first of all, Hirai is just spinning the marketting with his statements.

With compression Resistance probably could have been shoved on to a 9gig disk. Insomniac had no reason to even bother with compression since they had blu-ray to put it on. Why waste the effort if it isn't needed. If the bottleneck for the load times was the blu-ray read speed, then it might have made for shorter load times if they compressed a little bit, but again, why bother going through the effort for a 10% load time improvement.

The PS3 is a powerful piece of hardware, butSony decided to gimp it with a small amount of GPU memory. They did the same thing with the PS2 with its 4 megs of video ram.I remember Sony announcing the 4 meg spec of the PS2 at a developers conference years ago and the audience actually made a collective groan. Sony's stance was that they needed the cheaper memory to keep the price down, and that developers would just need to take more time to "tweak" the games to work with the memory provided. This is what they are doing with the PS3 too. We can only imagine what the situation may have been like had they added 50% more, or even doubled, the amount of video ram on the PS3. And yes, I am aware that the ram on the PS3 is indeed fast, but capacity is important too. If Sony was serious about a 10 year cycle, then providing more memory might have helped achieve this.

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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]they allready had to lower the resolution on Hal3 to make it fit.. so yeah.TheWiikestLink

you think resolutions affect space that much? lol they lowered resolution to have one of the best lighting even seen in video games, i think it was mission7 when you are walking on a bridge and amazing ammount light is being reflected from the bridge right onto ur gun....it was amazing

why not have the resolution AND the lighting?

GPU couldn't handle it but considering the 360's GPU is said to be better then the PS3's GPU by tech sites this isn't something cows should be using against the 360. If it's GPU could not handle it, then its near certain the PS3's GPU also could not. Maybe if you add the cell to the equation it could make a difference but I doubt it would be that significant.

lol textures in killzone 2 explain everything :|

1 level in Killzone 2 is 2gigs and DVD is 9gigs

Killzone would not fit on a dvdshadystxxx

2gigs per level x 4 levels = 8 gigs.

Yeah it might fit.

Latest Madden anyone ?

I think there ia another game that is weeks away that again will prove the two systems on par or the 360 doing it better; A.C.

Lets wait and see.

[QUOTE="shadystxxx"]1 level in Killzone 2 is 2gigs and DVD is 9gigs

Killzone would not fit on a dvdBgrngod

2gigs per level x 4 levels = 8 gigs.

Yeah it might fit.

compress that and it might not even go above 2gb as a whole game......anyways look at killzone's screenshots, it uses weird type of motion blur and lighting and colours to make it look good, there is NOTHING good about textures or anything, it just looks good to the eyes

HiHD: What are the primary erroneous points of information/misconceptions out there in blogger-land about PS3 in general and vs Xbox?

HIRAI: I have heard many people say our competitors' systems are just as powerful as PS3. That simply is not true. No other next-generation entertainment system pushes the envelope on advanced technology like PS3. I have heard people say that a high-capacity game delivery vehicle like Blu-ray isn't necessary in a next-generation computer entertainment system. You just can't expect that the 9 GBs of storage capacity found on today's DVDs are going to have enough space to hold tomorrow's games. Developers have already pushed the DVD to its limits in terms of space used. We had games like 'Resistance: Fall of Man' coming in 16 GBs at launch. That game simply wouldn't be possible on any other system without using multiple discs. There is no doubt in my mind that you need more capacity on discs for truly next-generation gaming, and Blu-ray gives us that space.

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Its lucky the BR disks give all that extra space, if Heavenly Sword/Short had been on DVD it would only have been 30 minutes long, way to put an end to short games with that one.

[QUOTE="shadystxxx"]1 level in Killzone 2 is 2gigs and DVD is 9gigs

Killzone would not fit on a dvdBgrngod

2gigs per level x 4 levels = 8 gigs.

Yeah it might fit.

If its as good as Killzone most people won't bother trting to get past the thirs level anyway... man Killzone sucked.

I'm just waiting for Killzoneto clock in at the same play time as Heavenly Short to show the real power of the Blu-Ray.

Well guess what.......START SHOWING IT!!!MikeE21286

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Well guess what.......START SHOWING IT!!!Ninpo_Osa

thats not the case, ps3 was meant to be 3x more powerful then 360.....now it looks like it isnt even a bit more poweful then 360, no body ever said xbox 360 is more powerful then ps3

edit: oh and alot of multiplat games on both ps3 and 360 look and run better then on ps3....hmmmmm

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Well guess what.......START SHOWING IT!!!Ninpo_Osa

[QUOTE="Ninpo_Osa"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Well guess what.......START SHOWING IT!!!akuma303x

prove that you're PC you bought a year ago is better then the PC I bought today and I paid twice as much for my PC - huh ? :D

as my girlfriend says, its not what youve got, its what you do with it doobie1975

Hehe, that sounded cool, Does she say that to you at night as well?

I guess Kaz hates multiple discs as much as he hates rumble and backwards compatibility.

My guess is that we will see a multiple disc PS3 game at some point and Kaz will be out there backpedaling on previous statements just like they have had to scramble about with the statments about how rumble was "last gen" and BC was important.

So true yetso hard to accept for those who only have a system that lacks a next gen format required for real gaming

So true yetso hard to accept for those who only have a system that lacks a next gen format required for real gaming

AgentA-Mi6

Uh, a PS3 fan saying that 360 owners don't have a system for "real gaming"? Maybe one day, 360 owners will have such awesome titles like Resistance, Heavenly Sword, and Lair...instead of last gen games like Gears, Bioshock, Mass Effect. Seriously, what's the point in having 50 gigs if you only put crap on them? Maybe Sony should sell the Blu ray copyright to MS. At least then, you'd get some quality software on it. The Sony philosophy seems like one of those pyramid scams. "This is the machine of the future! Give us money now to invest in this amazing device!". Just keep waiting, Sony fans. You'll get Metal Gear in 2008 and FF in 2009. One good game a year isn't so bad, is it? Well it will be better than what you've gotten so far.

Oh boy...here we go again.

Yes the PS3 is more powerful.

No the difference isn't as noticable as the difference between Xbox and PS2.

Yes Blu-ray is not strictly necessary.

Yes a number of 360 developers have run into issues with DVD9 (more like 7.8 in the case of 360).

Well, if they got the power, now why don't they actually use it to make some decent games?glitchgeeman

You telling me they haven't? :|

So true yetso hard to accept for those who only have a system that lacks a next gen format required for real gaming

AgentA-Mi6