keyboard controls versus controllers

I've heard quite alot on how keyboard and mouse are much better for fps's and such

I've recently started playing more shooter games on the computer and i'm finding it more difficult tbh,i normally feel more comfortable with a controller for shooters.

anyone else like this?

Not really,no.

Supposedly you get used to it.

Nvm got it!

the only people who find keyboard/mouse awkward are the same ones that have only gamed on a home console.

give the keyboard/mouse more than five goddamn minutes and you'll find out they are leagues ahead of controllers.

Nope.

I transitioned from the N64 controller straight into PC gaming without a single problem. I also was able to play the original Xbox and Gamecube very easily while also doing heavy amounts of PC gaming.

However now my skill level in PC gaming has gotten to a point that I find it really hard to play console FPS games.

It'll definitely feel weird at first, even horrid, even more so if you're playing online, since most of those guys have been using KB/M since forever, but keep it up, you'll get used to it without even noticing it, and you'll see how much more precise and natural it feels vs a controller.

Not really,no.

Arach666

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

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Not really,no.

VanDammFan

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

Depends on the game for me.

Team Fortress 2 is fine with the keyboard and mouse but playing CoD 4 on a keyboard is just painful.

Personally, I will never play a shooter on PC. I will always play the console version because of the controller. I think it's much easier to control. I find using a mouse and keyboard in shooters difficult.

Mouse and Keyboard gave birth to Arena Shooters

Controllers then killed them

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Controllers feel too fiddly for me and I feel that the buttons aren't mapped out very well (i.e the movement analog stick is left of the control pad yet the jump button is on the right of the control pad for Halo and CoD.)

Personally, I will never play a shooter on PC. I will always play the console version because of the controller. I think it's much easier to control. I find using a mouse and keyboard in shooters difficult.

nurnberg

A good comfortable key config, and an accurate sensitively will go a long way. I used to have my sensitivity cranked up to about 6.8 which might be considered low for some pc gamers, but I brought it down to around 3.8 and that along made it so much easier. Of course having a bigger mouse pad helped with that :P

Pretty much the opposite for console games. I always have it set on high, or near maximum. Mgo, I have all my setting on 9s and 10s.

I wonder however, if there is a program or anything at all to have some keys setup for multiple things like gamepads. That could come in handy I think for some of the more console centric games. If there is a way, I wouldnt mind knowing what it is, that's for sure. Anyway, When it comes down to it, I find the transition between the two setups virtually painless. Just a matter of getting back into the groove after sticking with either one for a long period of time.

I actually prefer controllers for most games but I can also see the benefits to keyboard.

Mouse and Keyboard gave birth to Arena Shooters

Controllers then killed them

End

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

Not really,no.

Inconsistancy

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

lol...so...25 or so buttons hu?lol...well excuse me. have fun with your carpel tunnel bro..

Played on a keyboard and mouse for years, then switched to controller. Needless to say, won't be going back to keyboard/mouse anytime soon.TheMoreYouOwn

and if people spoke the truth they would all say the same thing for the most part. but people like to argue for argument sake..lol

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Not really,no.

VanDammFan

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

controler feels a billion times better in my hands

Don't get me wrong a controller feels excellent to me but it just doesn't top the precision and absolute quickness you get with a good mouse and keyboard combo. It's just a better tool to use for the job on a lot of games.

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Mouse and Keyboard gave birth to Arena Shooters

Controllers then killed them

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Cranler

Kinda. I mean both Quake 4 and Unreal Tournament 3 were both built to be used by controllers, and guess what? Those games weren't as good as Quake 3 Arena, or Unreal Tournament 2k4, and now we most likely won't ever see a new Quake or Unreal Tournament...

Used a controller for a long time, then switched to PC gaming. Tried Halo Reach after a couple of months playing CSS and now I realize how much of a joke console FPS are. I actually feel bad for the consolites.

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

VanDammFan

lol...so...25 or so buttons hu?lol...well excuse me. have fun with your carpel tunnel bro..

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

VanDammFan

lol...so...25 or so buttons hu?lol...well excuse me. have fun with your carpel tunnel bro..

And the example of using ~only 25 unique buttons was in WoW, it's no where near a normal game's control configuration. And completely depends on genre, plenty of games I won't touch an m/kb for.

KB/M tops controllers for probably 90% of the games I play. I still can't fathom how people can possibly prefer controllers to KB/M for first person shooters, especially. I mean the amazing precision you'll get with a mouse over a controller should speak for itself.

I found switching from shooters on a controller to a kb/m quite diffucult, but also rewarding. My only problem with kb/m gaming is the lack of accurate character movement, with only 8 possible directions and no ability to choose how fast your character moves (with the exception of a walk button or such). That's why I use a controller for Beat Hazard and The Witcher 2.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

Not really,no.

Arach666

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

sure..why not? Pc gamers have no problem telling console gamers what they feel is without a doubt better and claim its no contest not even close. So im just returning the favor..

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

yes actually..110 buttons is harder on the hands then a small gamepad with a few perfectly place buttons and 2 toggles.

VanDammFan

sure..why not? Pc gamers have no problem telling console gamers what they feel is without a doubt better and claim its no contest not even close. So im just returning the favor..

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Mouse and Keyboard gave birth to Arena Shooters

Controllers then killed them

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Ly_the_Fairy

Kinda. I mean both Quake 4 and Unreal Tournament 3 were both built to be used by controllers, and guess what? Those games weren't as good as Quake 3 Arena, or Unreal Tournament 2k4, and now we most likely won't ever see a new Quake or Unreal Tournament...

UT2k4 was pretty much dead after 6 months, I remember having to play on a Rankin only server that allows owners of the game to play against people with the demo.

Most gamers just dont like arena shooters, plain and simple. The only reason arena shooters were ever popular is because Cod wasnt around yet.

I prefer controllers for slower shooters like CoD and Halo. I prefer the mouse and keyboard when it comes to shooters like Quake 3, CSS and TF2.

Then it's controller all the way for every genre except isometric RPG's.

I prefer controllers. Was raised on consoles with the NES and own all the consoles back to the NES. A controller just feels more natural in my hands. That's just me though. Now, if I cannot turn the sensitivity up high and the aim assist off in my games, it really bothers me and always has. But most games don't have aim assist and the sensitivity usually goes extremely high and has for a long time.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] Really now? So you assume to say what´s better for me? That´s rich.

Arach666

sure..why not? Pc gamers have no problem telling console gamers what they feel is without a doubt better and claim its no contest not even close. So im just returning the favor..

if that statement were true, you would not be on a gaming forum. and my "motto" is..."killings as easy as breathing"..

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sure..why not? Pc gamers have no problem telling console gamers what they feel is without a doubt better and claim its no contest not even close. So im just returning the favor..

VanDammFan

if that statement were true, you would not be on a gaming forum. and my "motto" is..."killings as easy as breathing"..

UT2k4 was pretty much dead after 6 monthsCranler

ROFL, what the hell are you talking about?

I put over 2k hours into the game over the course of many years, throughout which the community was always extremely active in all gametypes outside like Bombing Run. Actually, I casually played VCTF for years. Even though it existed as an "unofficial" gametype and had only a small slice of the playerbase, you could find an active VCTF server at literally any time of the day.

Sure, now it's pretty dead when compared to most games, but UT2004 still has hundreds of servers running even today.

Edit: Yes, arena shooters seem to be dead for the moment, which sucks because games in the Quake and UT franchise were the pinnacle of the genre for me. UT2004 was the last "great" shooter, imo. I'm sort of just drifting from game to game trying to find something that can give me the same level of enjoyment.. not that I'm holding my breath.

Used a controller for a long time, then switched to PC gaming. Tried Halo Reach after a couple of months playing CSS and now I realize how much of a joke console FPS are. I actually feel bad for the consolites.

Da_lil_PimP

FPS are not only genre consolites play.

You find other genres like sports, fighting, racing, platform, action adventure are preferred and superior on a control pad erogonmicall and functionally with button placements. Also force feedback and wihout the need to rest them on a table..........so I wouldn't feel so bad for consolites.

Are you also comparing an console FPS game to PC FPS game or it's use of controls?

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Used a controller for a long time, then switched to PC gaming. Tried Halo Reach after a couple of months playing CSS and now I realize how much of a joke console FPS are. I actually feel bad for the consolites.

AdmiralBison

FPS are not only genre consolites play.

You find other genres like sports, fighting, racing, platform, action adventure are preferred and superior on a control pad erogonmicall and functionally with button placements. Also force feedback and wihout the need to rest them on a table..........so I wouldn't feel so bad for consolites.

Are you also comparing an console FPS game to PC FPS game or it's use of controls?

Anything that requires precision or lots of options work better with KB+M.

I'm used to both though, and have no problem with controllers.

I like both, I've never had a problem with either.

It was no problem for me to switch, though I still prefer to play platformers like Braid and Trine with a controller (in this case a 360 controller). Otherwise, mouse and keyboard are OK. Got to learn to adapt.

Keyboard and mouse = master race

dualshock 3 = mid tier

360 controller = low tier

wii mote = what

Just my opinion.

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]

Used a controller for a long time, then switched to PC gaming. Tried Halo Reach after a couple of months playing CSS and now I realize how much of a joke console FPS are. I actually feel bad for the consolites.

Da_lil_PimP

FPS are not only genre consolites play.

You find other genres like sports, fighting, racing, platform, action adventure are preferred and superior on a control pad erogonmicall and functionally with button placements. Also force feedback and wihout the need to rest them on a table..........so I wouldn't feel so bad for consolites.

Are you also comparing an console FPS game to PC FPS game or it's use of controls?

I can handle both just fine.