Killer Instinct and Xbox One Get Booed at EVO 2013

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] By Microsoft as a company, I also mean Xbox as a brand now. Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they just know Double Helix is a shitty developer.Murderstyle75

Which again is fine. I still don't see why they need to boo people for demoing a game because you don't like who they work for. Really? I also dunno what Ms did to the fighting community either (besides giving them fighting games with better framerates lol).

Viva Pinata is actually really good though :P

But yeah, that's an "X" I suppose (though devs are told they can't make what theywant all the time) since letting double helix do the Wii sports clones would probably be a better use of their time. I do think Rare deserves a shot at an original title again.

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Rare is not making it. Didnt you know? Not that it matters anyway since Microsoft chased Rares talents away a long time ago. Pretty sad when 15+ year developers leave the companies they founded because Microsoft makes them develop children's games.Murderstyle75

Ignorance at its finest.

[spoiler] The big change in Rare came when the company went up for sale, people were unsure of the future of Rare. When they announced Microsoft was buying, a lot of people were unsure if it was a good or bad thing. For one, MS had deep pockets so financial security seemed assured, but on the other hand they were relatively new to the games market, and complete infants in the console market. Personally I dont think it was a great mix. At first it seemed that they wouldnt interfere much, but it was soon clear that they were more interested in using Rare to help aim at a younger market. This stifled a lot of creativity, Rare was renowned for their diverse portfolio, so to not be involved in making Mature games was a real blow. When the stampers left it seemed that Microsoft was losing faith in Rare, it was hard to take when all around were incredibly talented people, with massive amounts of experience. There [were] numerous projects that were put forward that I believe would have been huge hits, but MS rejected them one after the other. I remember seeing a couple of prototypes that Chris Seavor had designed and was working on, that looked amazing, but alas they got shelved. It seemed that MS didnt want to take the risk in Rare doing anything outside the younger demographic, they quickly forgot the companys heritage. We started to lose a lot of great talent then, people were losing job satisfaction, so they just left. Obviously Kinect Sports has come along now, and has done really well. So my hope is that MS will start regaining their faith in Rare and let them get their feet back into the wider mainstream market and put Rares name back on top. Best of luck Rare! [/spoiler]

What "talent" did they drive away, and what "talent" was specifically driven away by the focus on children's games?

Any article is going to consider the whole of any dev studio as "talent". It's not enough to just say that "talent" left Rare. People quit jobs all the time. The article only mentions Chris Seavor as a notable dev, but he wasn't the sole reason for Rare's success.

The article also talks of the Stampers who pretty much were Rare. Don Murphy who is part of the interview was a Rare founder as well. And Rare without Tim & Chris Stamper who created Rare is like The Stones without Keith Richards and Mick Jagger. Since then, Microsoft has shuffled around their studio managers with multiple replacements including that asshat, Scott Henson who will probably help f*ck up Lionhead as well.Murderstyle75

So Microsoft is the reason Tim and Chris Stamper left?

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So? What does that have to do with anything? They watched it being played and booed it based off not liking a corporation? Really? If you like any corporation, you are a scrub. If you don't like their stance just don't buy their products. But I don't see what you gain out of doing this besides looking like assholes to people just doing their job.

ActicEdge

Which again is fine. I still don't see why they need to boo people for demoing a game because you don't like who they work for. Really? I also dunno what Ms did to the fighting community either (besides giving them fighting games with better framerates lol).

They were booing because the game is Xbox One exclusive and alot of people wanted the UMVC3 grand finals instead of the KI stage demo.

Killer Instinct is going to to be good. I think the booing was just NY if anything. Chief Thunder will be looking sick

I think the game is fine, microsoft got booed.CJ_ofCamelot

[QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"]I think the game is fine, microsoft got booed.Badosh

anyone who actuallly watched that video can plainly see that they didnt boo the Killer Instinct game or it's gameplay.. the boos didnt start until the Xbox One exclusivity was mentioned..

getting boo'd definitely isnt a good thing, but lets atleast get the facts straight..

early impressions from people who have actually played the game are suprisingly positive from what i've been reading.. I personally didnt plan on buying this game for $60, but as a free download that i can play through fully with Jago, why not?.. nothing wrong with a free game, especially if it turns out to be pretty decent..

anyone who actuallly watched that video can plainly see that they didnt boo the Killer Instinct game or it's gameplay.. the boos didnt start until the Xbox One exclusivity was mentioned..

getting boo'd definitely isnt a good thing, but lets atleast get the facts straight..

early impressions from people who have actually played the game are suprisingly positive from what i've been reading.. I personally didnt plan on buying this game for $60, but as a free download that i can play through fully with Jago, why not?.. nothing wrong with a free game, especially if it turns out to be pretty decent..

Antwan3K

And let me ask you, when people boo a game for being an X1 exclusive, what does that most probably mean? That they don't quite want an X1 right? If a game is exclusive to a console everyone has intention of buying, it wouldn't be booed.

Any negativity towards Microsoft is well-deserved. 

Isn't the EVO 2013 in Europe? Am I surprised at anything Euro gamers do? lol!! They hate everything Microsoft. This isn't a big surprise. The game will still sell. I didn't hear any of them booing when Sony announced they would now have to PAY to Play multiplayer games online. lol!! Why didn't they BOO for that? Bias fanboys. blackace

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anyone who actuallly watched that video can plainly see that they didnt boo the Killer Instinct game or it's gameplay.. the boos didnt start until the Xbox One exclusivity was mentioned..

getting boo'd definitely isnt a good thing, but lets atleast get the facts straight..

early impressions from people who have actually played the game are suprisingly positive from what i've been reading.. I personally didnt plan on buying this game for $60, but as a free download that i can play through fully with Jago, why not?.. nothing wrong with a free game, especially if it turns out to be pretty decent..

jhcho2

And let me ask you, when people boo a game for being an X1 exclusive, what does that most probably mean? That they don't quite want an X1 right? If a game is exclusive to a console everyone has intention of buying, it wouldn't be booed.

yes i agree, they were booing the Xbox One, NOT booing Killer Instinct.. that was my entire point..

Isn't the EVO 2013 in Europe? Am I surprised at anything Euro gamers do? lol!! They hate everything Microsoft. This isn't a big surprise. The game will still sell. I didn't hear any of them booing when Sony announced they would now have to PAY to Play multiplayer games online. lol!! Why didn't they BOO for that? Bias fanboys. blackace

Isn't the EVO 2013 in Europe? Am I surprised at anything Euro gamers do? lol!! They hate everything Microsoft. This isn't a big surprise. The game will still sell. I didn't hear any of them booing when Sony announced they would now have to PAY to Play multiplayer games online. lol!! Why didn't they BOO for that? Bias fanboys. blackace

this hurts to watch

the old pay 2 play services from the early PC online gaming days are long gone (Mplayer,  Kali, whatever else)

There's nothing "revolutionary" about XBL, it's the same premise as those long gone PC gaming services.

MS just made it mandatory, and now people try to justify wasting their money.

Sorry, but I don't need someone to hold my hand to game on the internets.

Then again, thats what seperates PC gaming from Consoles.

I see. Nice to know an educated person is actually in SW. I do agree with a lot of what you say. I've been saying for about two years -- possibly three -- that Xbox has changed. It's not horrible, but it's not Xbox. Something minute but still aggravating that MS did with Xbox was, they changed the avatar weapons... I know it's stupid complaining about it, but they turned ALL weapons (Gears weapons, sniper rifles, assault guns) into NERF GUNS! It's something small and unimportant, but that, for me, was one of the first signs they were turning the Xbox into a "family friendly" system. It all started snowballing after this.

I actually am not aware of Double Helix's faults, but I would much prefer the original developers on a game 99 percent of the time.

[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"][QUOTE="CJ_ofCamelot"]Looks like it would be better to wait and see the new fighters on the PS4.StrongBlackVine

He means new fighting games, not characters from Killer Instink.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="lilnazar"]Then why even putting the game in your description? Was that just to fanboy brag about XONE? You barely even like 50% of it's games. How much did M$ pay you?lilnazar

And project spark.

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*thinks back to Soul blade ps1, killer instrinct, and killer instinct 64, mortal kombat..etc* yes Definitely the 90's was the last time the fighting genre was worth a damn.

LordOfPoms

*looks at Evo 2013 that just finnished a few hours ago*

Sorry buddy, but you have no idea...

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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] diversity is a good thing broGOGOGOGURT

And project spark.

Because the Killer Instinct reboot is mashy as hell and not at all fun.

I played the original Killer Instinct and use to get my tail kicked. I'm not being a fanboy but wtf is that? That looked like the poor man's version of Street Fighter. On to the topic, I wouldn't boo double helix but I would for Madcatz due to the garbage they make.

Isn't the EVO 2013 in Europe? Am I surprised at anything Euro gamers do? lol!! They hate everything Microsoft. This isn't a big surprise. The game will still sell. I didn't hear any of them booing when Sony announced they would now have to PAY to Play multiplayer games online. lol!! Why didn't they BOO for that? Bias fanboys. blackace