Killzone 2 did what Halo 3 should have done, but didn't.

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#101 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] haha, that's awesome lol.

um actually no, ODST uses an updated halo 3 engine which is an updated halo 2 engine, and Reach is reported to use a completely new engine built from teh ground up for the 360.

That's what I just said.

sorry bout that, didn't read the preceeding message you replied too.
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#102 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] it is? oh you mean the immersiveness of a useless cover system that really wouldn't exist in real life and would work much better in real life, or the immersiveness of taking near 2 seconds to reload a weapon.jg4xchamp
Dude, you've got to be joking. Cover system is useless? You haven't played KZ2?

you really don't need it much in the 1st half of the game to be quite honest, on the 2nd half(atleast on veteran) you will need it, but even than i felt it always got in the way, felt like you couldn't shoot as fast. In my short and completely noobish run in the multiplayer(ive only done 7 matches of it so far :P) i never used it, but i guess thats why i wasn't beasting it early.

On regular if I came out of cover I was slaughtered lol. Offtopic: Anna is sooo hot in Get Smart.

Oh, and there is no cover system in the MP.

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#103 Eazy1891
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] haha, that's awesome lol.Chutebox
um actually no, ODST uses an updated halo 3 engine which is an updated halo 2 engine, and Reach is reported to use a completely new engine built from teh ground up for the 360.

That's exactly what he said.

lol i didnt know echos could happen in a website...thanks for proving me wrong

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#104 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Dude, you've got to be joking. Cover system is useless? You haven't played KZ2?

you really don't need it much in the 1st half of the game to be quite honest, on the 2nd half(atleast on veteran) you will need it, but even than i felt it always got in the way, felt like you couldn't shoot as fast. In my short and completely noobish run in the multiplayer(ive only done 7 matches of it so far :P) i never used it, but i guess thats why i wasn't beasting it early.

On regular if I came out of cover I was slaughtered lol. Offtopic: Anna is sooo hot in Get Smart.

on topic: really on regular i didn't get killed until that flying robot thing. Off topic- I know like when she is wearing that silver dress thing(although the shorter hair was bugging me), and that red dress at the end....it was pretty :)
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#105 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Dude, you've got to be joking. Cover system is useless? You haven't played KZ2?Chutebox

you really don't need it much in the 1st half of the game to be quite honest, on the 2nd half(atleast on veteran) you will need it, but even than i felt it always got in the way, felt like you couldn't shoot as fast. In my short and completely noobish run in the multiplayer(ive only done 7 matches of it so far :P) i never used it, but i guess thats why i wasn't beasting it early.

On regular if I came out of cover I was slaughtered lol. Offtopic: Anna is sooo hot in Get Smart.

Oh, and there is no cover system in the MP.

I beat recruit in 4 hours using the knife and no cover, I got up to the last boss on regular using all most only the knife in about 5 hours without using cover.
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#106 Deathtransit
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KZ2 is best on Veteren, very intense. Just like Gears is best on Hardcore and MGS4 on BBH.
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#107 princeofshapeir
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While the grafix warz go on between Killzone 2 and Halo 3, Crysis simply sits high above, looking down with a look of amusement, and silently chuckling to himself.
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#108 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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LOL
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#109 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] you really don't need it much in the 1st half of the game to be quite honest, on the 2nd half(atleast on veteran) you will need it, but even than i felt it always got in the way, felt like you couldn't shoot as fast. In my short and completely noobish run in the multiplayer(ive only done 7 matches of it so far :P) i never used it, but i guess thats why i wasn't beasting it early. WilliamRLBaker

On regular if I came out of cover I was slaughtered lol. Offtopic: Anna is sooo hot in Get Smart.

Oh, and there is no cover system in the MP.

I beat recruit in 4 hours using the knife and no cover, I got up to the last boss on regular using all most only the knife in about 5 hours without using cover.

yeah and i bet you did that blind folded and eating a cheeseburger at the same time....

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#110 Kurdish-Gamer
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Killzone 2 destroys Halo 3, and why some people complaint about the controls I mean you can configure them to make them like COD .
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#111 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] On regular if I came out of cover I was slaughtered lol. Offtopic: Anna is sooo hot in Get Smart.

Oh, and there is no cover system in the MP.

Malta_1980

I beat recruit in 4 hours using the knife and no cover, I got up to the last boss on regular using all most only the knife in about 5 hours without using cover.

yeah and i bet you did that blind folded and eating a cheeseburger at the same time....

lol yes because killzone 2 is SOOOOOOO hard its so amazingly hard, you can't go through recruit using nothing but the knife no you certainly cant. :roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44esiUh9TKc
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#112 DonPerian
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[QUOTE="DonPerian"]Halo was never known for it's visuals.Deathtransit
I disagree strongly. It showed off the Xbox's capabilities, nothing on PS2 looked as good. Right off the bat we knew XBox was going to have better graphics.

Both Halo and Halo 2 had a 9 in the graphics rating with GS' old review system. While good (Halo 3 looks good as well), it was nothing too special.
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#113 porky_ownsu
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have bad controls?

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#114 Deathtransit
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have bad controls?

porky_ownsu
just go back to COD. I'm glad KZ2 doesn't play like COD, I actually prefer the KZ2 over COD and it's clones any day (R2).
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#115 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] On regular if I came out of cover I was slaughtered lol. Offtopic: Anna is sooo hot in Get Smart.

Oh, and there is no cover system in the MP.

Malta_1980

I beat recruit in 4 hours using the knife and no cover, I got up to the last boss on regular using all most only the knife in about 5 hours without using cover.

yeah and i bet you did that blind folded and eating a cheeseburger at the same time....

while solving Calculus equation and finding the cure for AIDS....oh yeah you wish you were that awesome
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#116 krp008
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That is, be a graphical showcase of the systems capabilities. Halo the first was fun, yes, but what really set it apart was how amazing it looked, it was THE showcase for the original Xbox. Halo 3 did not deliver. And, since this is SWs, here's some more flamebait. Halo 3 isn't even worthy of the Halo moniker since it clearly was made for the sole purpose of cashing in and didn't deliver on the original's purpose...to evolve console technology and push the boundaries of what had been done. Now it's more like "Combat devolved". Deathtransit

9.5 > 9.0

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#117 krp008
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While the grafix warz go on between Killzone 2 and Halo 3, Crysis simply sits high above, looking down with a look of amusement, and silently chuckling to himself.princeofshapeir

Consoles gamers sit high above laughing at PC gamers.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] you really don't need it much in the 1st half of the game to be quite honest, on the 2nd half(atleast on veteran) you will need it, but even than i felt it always got in the way, felt like you couldn't shoot as fast. In my short and completely noobish run in the multiplayer(ive only done 7 matches of it so far :P) i never used it, but i guess thats why i wasn't beasting it early. WilliamRLBaker

On regular if I came out of cover I was slaughtered lol. Offtopic: Anna is sooo hot in Get Smart.

Oh, and there is no cover system in the MP.

I beat recruit in 4 hours using the knife and no cover, I got up to the last boss on regular using all most only the knife in about 5 hours without using cover.

What a TERRIBLE criticism. Recruit difficult? Really? NO WAI :o :lol:!


Anyone can play through Halo 3 or KZ2 on it's easiest difficulty mostly using melee. It's EASY mode for a reason. Try that crap on Veteran/Elite or Heroic/Legendary mode. Hell try it on Trooper/Normal mode for that matter. Won't happen :|.

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#119 AAllxxjjnn
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It's graphics were already pretty good. It had better rock textures than the rocks on the beach at the beginning of Crysis. It also had some hella good lighting.
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#120 o0squishy0o
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halo did what killzone was expected to do.... have people play it + buy it ;)

yeah i know ill go away now Haha

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#121 TR800
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Halo 3 has a great artstyle but i agree it could and should have looked better but like someone else said Gameplay > Graphics.
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#122 PAL360
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Halo3 looks great. It has some of the best graphics this gen imo...

Unfortunatly these days a game needs to have no colours to be considered good looking :?

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#123 IIRS3II_H1TMAN
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Thanks for your opinion.
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#124 lhughey
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Hundreds of thousands of people still playing H3 everyday can't be wrong...
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#125 3picuri3
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from the topic title this is my guess:

sell poorly and was quickly forgotten? because that's what happened to KZ2 and that's what should have happened to Halo 3 :D

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#126 Cicatraz_ESP
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I'd play Halo 3 over Killzone 2 any day of the week.

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#127 metalgear-solid
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gameplay>>graphics

LittleBigMac

True, but Halo 3 still sucked, even gameplay-wise.

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#128 mitu123
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[QUOTE="LittleBigMac"]

gameplay>>graphics

metalgear-solid

True, but Halo 3 still sucked, even gameplay-wise.

Judging from your previous posts, I doubt you played it, let alone owned a 360.
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#129 h575309
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[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

[QUOTE="LittleBigMac"]

gameplay>>graphics

True, but Halo 3 still sucked, even gameplay-wise.

ummm 9.5 here, 9.4 on metacritic, so thanks for your opinion but no. Plus, still the most popular MP game on consoles two years later. post=fail
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#130 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

[QUOTE="LittleBigMac"]

gameplay>>graphics

True, but Halo 3 still sucked, even gameplay-wise.

ummm 9.5 here, 9.4 on metacritic, so thanks for your opinion but no. Plus, still the most popular MP game on consoles two years later. post=fail

yeah but heres the sad thing. Halo 1 on the xbox was a better game...
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#131 Wats_o
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Grifball > Graphics

End thread

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#132 Kickinurass
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yeah but heres the sad thing. Halo 1 on the xbox was a better game...NinjaMunkey01

I agree. But it's hardly a bad thing; Halo CE was an amazing game afterall. I prefer it over many shooters released this gen.

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#133 deathtarget04
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I play KZ2 online from time to time. Tho not long of course :p

To me, graphics are just a little detail that only gets noticed as soon as i start a game (Gears,Crysis,Uncharted etc.) Besides gameplay beats graphics entirely....

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#134 cebcubs1
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gameplay>>graphics

LittleBigMac

Definitely, I don't give a crap about graphics if it takes away from gameplay. KZ2 was missing one HUGE aspect: Co-op campaign. I mean, how hard is it to figure out that if you design a FPS where you run around with a squad or teammate the whole time, you should have the ability for the teammate/squad to be controlled by another player? IMO the co-op ability of Halo: CE was its largest revolutionary achievement b/c it hadn't been prominent before that game. KZ2 may look amazing, but I'd rather have co-op and a little bit worse graphics.

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#135 mitu123
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]True, but Halo 3 still sucked, even gameplay-wise.

NinjaMunkey01

ummm 9.5 here, 9.4 on metacritic, so thanks for your opinion but no. Plus, still the most popular MP game on consoles two years later. post=fail

yeah but heres the sad thing. Halo 1 on the xbox was a better game...

Because it scored higher(on Gamespot, 9.7>9.5). Though it's true.