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#101 Ericvon71
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If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears.

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Just keep telling yourself that over and over again maybe you will start believeing it!

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#102 UnnDunn
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It didn't have the OMG I WANT THAT factor of Gears of War (mainly because Gears was first, and it's spoiled us), but I thought it looked really nice. It tried hard to live up to that E3'05 video, but it didn't succeed.
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#103 Dualshockin
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killzone 2HALO 3

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

bad82man82
Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.
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#104 six_shot
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Have you guys realized that the reviewers i.e. ign, gamespot, etc all saw a 15 minute level. So there could be some really amazing stuff that we havnt seen. I'm pretty sure the only trailer we have seen is the 2 minute and 30 second video, which is still amazing, but very short compared to what gamesites have seen. Food for thought...
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#105 Spartanx23
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[QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Sony came through what else is their to say?

Let the damage control continue!!

Kalias

So coming through these days means put up the same trailer as 2 years ago, but with the heaviest of downgrades.:|

No.

Coming through is Bungie, who showed the world how to put together a trailer with class!

i really want to believe that single player for halo 3 was going to at least look amazing (10x better then multi) but i was wrong. compeletly wrong.

Killzone Just owned every FPS out there in graphics. even on pc, because so far crysis is only graphics nothing close to the scope and lighting of killzone (killzone taking place in a dark atmosphere has the best lighting to date)

How? By using blur as an art style. Killzone didn't own anything. It certainly didn't own Call of Duty 4, let alone Halo 3.

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#106 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"]If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears

BLAUcopter

Want to see what my digital camera can make Twilight Princess look like? Srsly. Bring us framebuffer shots.

ahhh poor fan boys.

Wow, is that the best you could come up with? Pathetic. Posters with 10x more dignity, intelligence, and respect around here have called me worse.

A digital camera shot from your flat panel is going to make anything look godly. Everyone knows that.

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#107 darthogre
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Supposedly the first level which took 15 mins to complete was a whopping 2 gigs. They basically said the games huge enviroment is one reason why Blu-Ray is needed. After seeing Gears Of War being 9 hrs long, they might actually have a point.

Either way the trailer was impressive and anyone denying this is a fanboy......not a lem or sheep, a fanboy. Honestly I hope this game can sale the console because Sony needs all the help they can get. With MS hardware woes maybe this is what Sony needed to put them over the hump.

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#108 BillGates_Money
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impressive im going to wait until i play the game to make claims
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#109 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="BLAUcopter"]If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears.

TekkenMaster606

Want to see what my digital camera can make Twilight Princess look like? Srsly. Bring us framebuffer shots.

You mean,provide actual representation of how the game looks like!?! Never!
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#110 Timesplitter14
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Most spectacular game ever. Even if the pre-alpha textures could be better, it's the most graphically impressive game ever. Ok try this : look at the KZ2 trailer then look at the original E3 2005 trailer. You'll see this one looks WAY cooler. And all the other games look slow and bland now...
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#111 Kalias
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[QUOTE="Kalias"][QUOTE="Spartanx23"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Sony came through what else is their to say?

Let the damage control continue!!

Spartanx23

So coming through these days means put up the same trailer as 2 years ago, but with the heaviest of downgrades.:|

No.

Coming through is Bungie, who showed the world how to put together a trailer with class!

i really want to believe that single player for halo 3 was going to at least look amazing (10x better then multi) but i was wrong. compeletly wrong.

Killzone Just owned every FPS out there in graphics. even on pc, because so far crysis is only graphics nothing close to the scope and lighting of killzone (killzone taking place in a dark atmosphere has the best lighting to date)

How? By using blur as an art style. Killzone didn't own anything. It certainly didn't own Call of Duty 4, let alone Halo 3.

you know what? i dont care WHAT they used. I only care about what i see. and what I SAW was history in the making. Halo R.I.P

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#112 StealthSting
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Well the game did not impress me as much as you know what, it wasn't even close... But none the less it's looking good.
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#113 smokeydabear076
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I was impressed.
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#114 TekkenMaster606
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There has been a tradeoff this generation people. Last time, PS2 owners wanted shooters like the Xbox got. And Xbox fans wanted JRPGs.

The Playstation 3 has plenty of shooters coming up and the Xbox 360 has it's fair share of JRPGs.

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#115 Dualshockin
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For those that don't know,KillZone is releasing next year,rumored to be releasing next to GT5 actually.
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#116 bad82man82
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]Just laugh at the people who bring in the E3 05 argument...We all knew it was CGI yet you want the game to look like it? Come on...The game is very close to looking like the CGI trailer and that was the goal.IbukiNinja

Sony deserved everything it got at E3 05. They said the CGI movie was in-game footage, which was a flat-out lie, since it was pre-rendered. They could've said "expect the final game to look like this in-game", if that was the goal, and they wouldn't have gotten the criticism they did. It's because they literally said that the video was in-game footage, and it wasn't.

So now you know the E3 05 was CGI, why are you still trying to hold Killzone 2 to that standard? This makes no sense to me...

2005 (stop saying it is CGI )

KILLZONE 2

2007 ( pre-alpha, mind blowing )

killzone 2 1KZ2

You will get owned in every way so stop it and enjoy this amazing in game screen shot.

NOW for all making sure that the E3 2005 is not CGI:

"After what we thought was a short trailer, the game dropped straight into actual, live gameplay. And I do mean live, the game was actually being played by one of the developers as we watched."

"First, the game appears to not feature a HUD, in fact the only time I saw anything on the screen that was hud like was when the developer fired or switched weapons."

http://kotaku.com/gaming/e307/killzone-2-impressions-277070.php

That's why a lot of people thought it was CGI cuz there was no HUD.

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#117 swade
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[QUOTE="BLAUcopter"]If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears.

[/QUOT

It's already been stated that Killzone has a much higher polycount than gears meaning overrall it has more detail.

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#118 Timstuff
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I bet no-one would have ever seen this one coming a few years ago...

Killzone 2's graphics take a dump on Halo 3's. :o

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#119 BLAUcopter
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[QUOTE="BLAUcopter"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"]If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears

TekkenMaster606

Want to see what my digital camera can make Twilight Princess look like? Srsly. Bring us framebuffer shots.

ahhh poor fan boys.

Wow, is that the best you could come up with? Pathetic. Posters with 10x more dignity, intelligence, and respect around here have called me worse.

A digital camera shot from your flat panel is going to make anything look godly. Everyone knows that.

Listen loser I dont need to stand up for gears or prove to you it looks godly. All the reviews and awards did that for me, somthing which you can't say for KZ.....

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#120 Metroid_Time
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Most spectacular game ever. Even if the pre-alpha textures could be better, it's the most graphically impressive game ever. Ok try this : look at the KZ2 trailer then look at the original E3 2005 trailer. You'll see this one looks WAY cooler. And all the other games look slow and bland now...Timesplitter14

Oh come on now, theres a game called Crysis.

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#121 JakeT
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[QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

Dualshockin

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

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#122 Dualshockin
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I was impressed.smokeydabear076
Ladies and gentlemen,it is this simple.
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#123 Dualshockin
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

JakeT

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

But who's to say that Bungie couldn't make Halo 3 realistic looking?
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#124 mattyomo99
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im a cow and i can admit GEoW is vary impressice graphicly, in not a fan of some other stuff in the game but it looks great. Killzone lived up to the hype of being better looking then gears and will look even better at release. The only part to wait for is the game play, that will make or break it.

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#125 jujutheking
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LMAO i thought that crap was CGI.Know for my unbias opinion.This is best looking gm since crysis(I don't need to say anything more and if u deni this u are truly a fanboy).I protected Halo yesterday and gave my opinion, but this blows Halo3 out of the water.It's pre alpha so it will look better LOL.
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#126 Kalias
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"]If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears

BLAUcopter

Want to see what my digital camera can make Twilight Princess look like? Srsly. Bring us framebuffer shots.

ahhh poor fan boys.

Wow, is that the best you could come up with? Pathetic. Posters with 10x more dignity, intelligence, and respect around here have called me worse.

A digital camera shot from your flat panel is going to make anything look godly. Everyone knows that.

Listen loser I dont need to stand up for gears or prove to you it looks godly. All the reviews and awards did that for me, somthing which you can't say for KZ.....

you know what i could debate with you about Gears. but why are you mentioning it anwyas lemming? i will be playing the BEST version soon and i only own one next-gen console..eheh like there really is more then one ( =

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#127 StealthSting
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Most spectacular game ever. Even if the pre-alpha textures could be better, it's the most graphically impressive game ever. Ok try this : look at the KZ2 trailer then look at the original E3 2005 trailer. You'll see this one looks WAY cooler. And all the other games look slow and bland now...Timesplitter14

Not really from where I'm coming. The trailer however was build and edited to give that feeling. Soo.... what I'm saying is that I have to see more, like straight gameplay for atleast a few minutes, instead of many few parts build into one trailer.

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#128 NorthlandMan
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I seriously still can't believe that they did it. Dencore

It shocked me as well Dencore. I was honestly expecting it tio look like a bad 360 game,e specially after some of the underwhelming impressions from GDC. but i'll be damned if that isn't one fo the most impressive console shooters ever seen. The animations are up there with bioshock but on a far larger scale with more pyrotechnics

though im a fanboy, and i admit it. i like your post because they are always fair and neutral. keep it up north

Kalias

Thank you sir, i shall try!!!! :)

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#129 Binski
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Kudos to the devs...The game looks insane
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#130 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"]If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears

BLAUcopter

Want to see what my digital camera can make Twilight Princess look like? Srsly. Bring us framebuffer shots.

ahhh poor fan boys.

Wow, is that the best you could come up with? Pathetic. Posters with 10x more dignity, intelligence, and respect around here have called me worse.

A digital camera shot from your flat panel is going to make anything look godly. Everyone knows that.

Listen loser I dont need to stand up for gears or prove to you it looks godly. All the reviews and awards did that for me, somthing which you can't say for KZ.....

Oooh, now you're downright flaming me. Very nice. Shows the utmost in respect and civility.

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#131 tonythestudent
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

JakeT

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

MOD defense force....engage

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#132 diggyzoom
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A very impressive showing imo. I really like the feel of the game and the animations rocked imo.

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#133 TheCrazed420
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[QUOTE="JakeT"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

Dualshockin

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

But who's to say that Bungie couldn't make Halo 3 realistic looking?

Why though? Not every game needs to be that way. I thought KZ2 looked awesome, and Halo3 looked awesome as well. We are both gertting treated to fanatastic shooters. Just for once.......can we not agree on this????

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#134 NorthlandMan
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That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

JakeT

But it was touted by many as a graphical powerhouse, and so far it does not even come close to Geow in that department

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#135 Dualshockin
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I bet no-one would have ever seen this one coming a few years ago...

Killzone 2's graphics take a dump on Halo 3's. :o

Timstuff
You have stated exactly why there is amazing damage control right now. The competition underestimated Guerrilla,and now they have delivered.
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#136 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

JakeT

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

Cleary. Halo is designed to create the feeling of playing in a huge massive world filled with civilization in conflict. Killzone is designed to create an epic and chaotic battlefield the represents a nation on fire.

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#137 JakeT
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[QUOTE="JakeT"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

Dualshockin

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

But who's to say that Bungie couldn't make Halo 3 realistic looking?

Because that would run entirely counter to the graphical style already in place and it would cease to be Halo at that point. You might as well hack on Jak and Daxter or Viva Pinata for not being realistic.

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#138 Kestastrophe
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It's already been stated that Killzone has a much higher polycount than gears meaning overrall it has more detail.

swade

Here is an excerpt from 1up's impressions:

The presentation and attention to detail are key. The game doesn't look as good as the 2005 trailer, naturally, but it looks close to as good as any other console shooter. We'd say that currently Gears of War tops it, and a few other titles are on the same visual level, but the game looks extremely nice.

This game looks great so far, but not as good as hyped. I was impressed with the lighting and animations the most, I must say. However, the environment textures are your typical low res PS3 textures. Overall, I would give it a B++. Bout time Sony and Guerilla!!

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#139 Timesplitter14
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[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]Most spectacular game ever. Even if the pre-alpha textures could be better, it's the most graphically impressive game ever. Ok try this : look at the KZ2 trailer then look at the original E3 2005 trailer. You'll see this one looks WAY cooler. And all the other games look slow and bland now...Metroid_Time

Oh come on now, theres a game called Crysis.

I wasn't talking about the graphics, but more about the cinematic feeling with all the stuff going on and the incredible artstyle

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#140 JakeT
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[QUOTE="JakeT"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

tonythestudent

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

MOD defense force....engage

Do logic and rational points bother you? I'm so sorry.

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#141 Bansheesdie
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But it was touted by many as a graphical powerhouse, and so far it does not even come close to Geow in that departmentNorthlandMan
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Bungie said a long time ago that they never meant to rival Gears in graphics. They also purposely used less polygons in their models.

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#142 Timesplitter14
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ADD A POLL TO DETERMINE IF THE TRAILER OWNED OR FLOPPED. (not if it meets the 2005trailer because it doesn't 100% meet it and we won't get the answer we want.)
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#143 Stonin
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Nice looking trailer but why did they have to rip off F.E.A.R and Half Life 2? Still it's a nice artstyle even if it has been done to death already.

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#144 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="JakeT"]

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

NorthlandMan

But it was touted by many as a graphical powerhouse, and so far it does not even come close to Geow in that department

Touted by whom? A bunch of crazed fanboys?Of course they're going to say that,it's what they do.

Hell, there are a few blind folks, saying that Killzone 2 looks better than Crysis. Are we to believe them?

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#145 tonythestudent
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[QUOTE="tonythestudent"][QUOTE="JakeT"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="bad82man82"]

Let us make a memorial for Halo LOL.

JakeT

Did it even stand a chance in the first place lol.

That's a ridiculous comparison. Halo 3 has made no attempt to be gritty or realistic, which is KZ2's primary focus.

MOD defense force....engage

Do logic and rational points bother you? I'm so sorry.

Oh did that hit home? I'm so sorry

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#146 Metroid_Time
Member since 2006 • 2225 Posts
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[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]Most spectacular game ever. Even if the pre-alpha textures could be better, it's the most graphically impressive game ever. Ok try this : look at the KZ2 trailer then look at the original E3 2005 trailer. You'll see this one looks WAY cooler. And all the other games look slow and bland now...Timesplitter14

Oh come on now, theres a game called Crysis.

I wasn't talking about the graphics, but more about the cinematic feeling with all the stuff going on and the incredible artstyle

Fair enough. It's going to feel more cinemematic though by default because Crysis is a free-roaming FPS.

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#147 Dualshockin
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Why though? Not every game needs to be that way. I thought KZ2 looked awesome, and Halo3 looked awesome as well. We are both gertting treated to fanatastic shooters. Just for once.......can we not agree on this????TheCrazed420
You must've missed the threads that hyped Halo 3's graphics,there were quite alot of them before KZ2. I remember the main argument was whether or not it was downgraded,and we kept hearing on how realistic Master Chiefs Armor looks.
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#148 Mandingo101
Member since 2007 • 2317 Posts
[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="BLAUcopter"]If your going to post pics of gears at least post some some that ACTUALLY resemble what the game looks like...

Killzone still has along way to go to beat gears

BLAUcopter

Want to see what my digital camera can make Twilight Princess look like? Srsly. Bring us framebuffer shots.

ahhh poor fan boys.

Wow, is that the best you could come up with? Pathetic. Posters with 10x more dignity, intelligence, and respect around here have called me worse.

A digital camera shot from your flat panel is going to make anything look godly. Everyone knows that.

Listen loser I dont need to stand up for gears or prove to you it looks godly. All the reviews and awards did that for me, somthing which you can't say for KZ.....

bwahahhahah :lol: bitter lemmings, dude gears has been out already, killzone is in alpha and yet people are comparing the two, that says a lot.

and i love how the lemmings are hiding behind a multiplat now (COD4) instead of halo like the good ol days.
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#149 ChiefFreeman
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It lives up to the trailer in every way I could see (explosions, facial animation, character movement, physics). It's only in the pre-alpha stage too! Compare them side by side and it's obvious Guerilla is doing an amazing job.
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#150 TekkenMaster606
Member since 2006 • 10980 Posts
If you're saying Killzone 2 looks better than Crysis... :lol: