Killzone 2 fails to crack 1 million units in the US

Here's the link.

Killzone 2 also happens to be Sony's fastest-selling title ever in the US, in terms of reaching 500,000 unit sales...:(

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]In other news, Halo 3, a 20 month old game outsold Killzone 2 last monthNephilim83

soo sales matter now?

wierd.

SW always changes when you least expect it :P

tbh. there are better games that sell less

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]In other news, Halo 3, a 20 month old game outsold Killzone 2 last monthNSR34GTR

soo sales matter now?

wierd.

SW always changes when you least expect it :P

tbh. there are better games that sell less

DeadEndPanda

That's a shame especially in FPS country, they love shooters over there.

gago-gago

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]In other news, Halo 3, a 20 month old game outsold Killzone 2 last monthNephilim83

Not really. Halo 3 is just that badass.

Sure, it isn't the prettiest or the most advanced or even the most spectacular game, but that doesn't change how much I have with it.

Theres a reason I'm still playing a 2 year old game religiously, and thats because it has managed to entertain me for that long.

:|

^^

The face of the guy who doesn't care... Me.

Shame though.

Do people have realistic standards at ALL ANYMORE. The game supposedly is a little more then 2 million in THREE MONTHS and yet somehow thats a bad thing???? Sony's games sell over time and build up on sales. Javy03

That's a shame. Tons of people are missing out on an amazing game.Nephilim83

I think it's really a "been there, done that" attitude towards the game, and increasingly towards FPS' as a whole

Here's the link.

Killzone 2 also happens to be Sony's fastest-selling title ever in the US, in terms of reaching 500,000 unit sales...:(

Why is this thread still going on? Haven't we established the fact that the game did do pretty well in sales and that sales don't make a game great? clubsammich91

[QUOTE="Javy03"]Do people have realistic standards at ALL ANYMORE. The game supposedly is a little more then 2 million in THREE MONTHS and yet somehow thats a bad thing???? Sony's games sell over time and build up on sales. rybe1025

ive used vgchartz only when there is no other source but vgchartz doesnt track the entire sales of a game simply because groups like NPD do not report on all retailers, so if anything it should be more then 1.59 mil. but by how much is the question, and that also goes for all the games on vgchartz so its not like kz2 is being purposely under-tracked

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why is this thread still going on? Haven't we established the fact that the game did do pretty well in sales and that sales don't make a game great? surrealnumber5

so its sony that takes the loss, they already paid GG if you think about it, GG didnt fund the development, sony did. and the game was finished last year (possibly sooner) but was pushed back remember? (though that as prolly a good thing so they could work out bugs alot better with more time)

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why is this thread still going on? Haven't we established the fact that the game did do pretty well in sales and that sales don't make a game great? surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why is this thread still going on? Haven't we established the fact that the game did do pretty well in sales and that sales don't make a game great? clubsammich91

I am not defending anyone's opinions nor am I saying KZ is a bad game and is selling poorly...

But you simply can not use HL2 a 4 year old game to justify it's pace of sales....The industry as a whole has seen substantial growth from that time period..So the point you are trying to make is not incorporating any growth the industry has seen...so your point is invalid on that merit alone...

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] as some one posted earlier 1.5m for a game that took 4 years to come out does not constitute "pretty well in sales"masiisam

I am not defending anyone's opinions nor am I saying KZ is a bad game and is selling poorly...

But you simply can not use HL2 a 4 year old game to justify it's pace of sales....The industry as a whole has seen substantial growth from that time period..So the point you are trying to make is not incorporating any growth the industry has seen...so your point is invalid on that merit alone...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Why is this thread still going on? Haven't we established the fact that the game did do pretty well in sales and that sales don't make a game great? clubsammich91

Funny, you should read your link again..."sales figures from Steam are not included in the 1.7 million figure". Steam is accounting for almost 25% of WW sales. It took 7 weeks for killzone to sell one million. So in fact, you should say Killzone2 sold almost half of what Half Life 2 sold in the same time period.Half life 2 sold 6.5m so you can expect killzone 2 to sell 3m at best!

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]Funny, that's about the same as Half-Life 2 sales numbers?(this article was written about 2 months after HL2 came out). Granted KZ2 sold alittle less than HL2 in the first 2 months, but my point still stands. Since HL2 took 6 years to make and was also really hyped, I see a really big hole in your and everyone else's argument. KZ2 is a good game and is selling well, end of story.

clubsammich91

I am not defending anyone's opinions nor am I saying KZ is a bad game and is selling poorly...

But you simply can not use HL2 a 4 year old game to justify it's pace of sales....The industry as a whole has seen substantial growth from that time period..So the point you are trying to make is not incorporating any growth the industry has seen...so your point is invalid on that merit alone...

I did not miss your point...Your example is horrible and that is what I am addressing.... Use another game that is closer in the time period...You simply can not use "a high profile game" that sold well 4 years ago to quantify the sales of KZ... As you said...They are two different areas but your "control example" needlessly brought the two together..

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

I am not defending anyone's opinions nor am I saying KZ is a bad game and is selling poorly...

But you simply can not use HL2 a 4 year old game to justify it's pace of sales....The industry as a whole has seen substantial growth from that time period..So the point you are trying to make is not incorporating any growth the industry has seen...so your point is invalid on that merit alone...

masiisam

I did not miss your point...Your example is horrible and that is what I am addressing.... Use another game that is closer in the time period...You simply can not use "a high profile game" that sold well 4 years ago to quantify the sales of KZ... As you said...They are two different areas but your "control example" needlessly brought the two together..

Growth in the indusrty was just a bunch of people picking up Wii's how does that make any sales for KZ2?

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]You missed my point entirely. People are saying KZ2's sales are bad when it's selling about the same as another high profile game. It has nothing to to with the "growth of the industry" in the last 4 years. HL2-PC(up until the xbox version) KZ2 PS3. They are 2 completely different areas.enygma500

I did not miss your point...Your example is horrible and that is what I am addressing.... Use another game that is closer in the time period...You simply can not use "a high profile game" that sold well 4 years ago to quantify the sales of KZ... As you said...They are two different areas but your "control example" needlessly brought the two together..

Growth in the indusrty was just a bunch of people picking up Wii's how does that make any sales for KZ2?

you may have a point if it wasnt for the 3 sales records that were broken this gen, none of which were on the Wii:

halo 3

gta 4

wow:wotlk

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]You missed my point entirely. People are saying KZ2's sales are bad when it's selling about the same as another high profile game. It has nothing to to with the "growth of the industry" in the last 4 years. HL2-PC(up until the xbox version) KZ2 PS3. They are 2 completely different areas.enygma500

I did not miss your point...Your example is horrible and that is what I am addressing.... Use another game that is closer in the time period...You simply can not use "a high profile game" that sold well 4 years ago to quantify the sales of KZ... As you said...They are two different areas but your "control example" needlessly brought the two together..

Growth in the indusrty was just a bunch of people picking up Wii's how does that make any sales for KZ2?

Your saying the Wii is the only growth the industry has seen in the past 4 years?..are you kidding?

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I did not miss your point...Your example is horrible and that is what I am addressing.... Use another game that is closer in the time period...You simply can not use "a high profile game" that sold well 4 years ago to quantify the sales of KZ... As you said...They are two different areas but your "control example" needlessly brought the two together..

ogvampire

Growth in the indusrty was just a bunch of people picking up Wii's how does that make any sales for KZ2?

you may have a point if it wasnt for the 3 sales records that were broken this gen, none of which were on the Wii:

halo 3

gta 4

wow:wotlk

***not directed to you Vamp***

Industry as a whole has grown...At it's basic level there more consumers in this industry now... thus making any sales of a game especially 4 years ago moot...The PS3 is on the same sales curve as the PS2.... 8 years ago....Does that make the PS3 sales as good as the PS2?.....No they don't.....Because there is no growth factored into the forecast/sales to account for the influx of new consumers in the industry... It's the same as using Halo 3 sales 4 years from now "if" the industry has grown 200%...H3 numbers are not going to represent a true comparison and give an accurate accounting on how a product is moving.

My only grip is the poster is using "a high profile game" that is 4 years old to say to the world... "Hey look HL2 sales were XXX and KZ are right behind them"..It's selling just as good as HL2...It's so inaccurate I needed to point it out...and simply say "use a game closer in time to validate the point that was expressed"