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#51 H3OXTC
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The games are being released at different times. KZ2 is releasing next year which means the developers have much more time to make it look better. If the game does not look better then other games released this year then it will be a disapointment because people are hyping this game for it's graphics.
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#52 WeaponMasterX
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Why are people fighting over this now? :|

Wait for them both to be released, then decide which is the better looking game.

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#53 Ragashahs
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console gaming wise KZ2=Cod4=UT3 imo
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#54 Timesplitter14
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There's a big problem with KZ2 screens. They're all blurry. But the game in motion looks better than CoD4 (technically) and MUCH better (if you look at the art, details, design and overall ''prettiness'' of the graphics)
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#55 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]Killzone 2 will have nothing on COD4PoppaLemming


:lol: but it already does!

what? a 6.9 flop under it's belt? :lol::lol:

COD = AAA franchise

KZ = 6.9

COD has been proven to have great gameplay and a great story. KZ is a proven flop of astronomical proportions

So please don't flash up a couple of screenshots when you have absolutely no history of anything being released good from the company "or" the franchise itself

Funny how history is repeating itself right before our own eyes :lol:

You lost me @"COD has a Great story!"WTF?!
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#56 ragrdoll21
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console gaming wise KZ2=Cod4=UT3 imoRagashahs
Agreed.To close to call yet.
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#57 tomarlyn
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Both spectacular but KZ2 has the edge. Best looking console game ever, still.
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#58 AcidTWister
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Yea, and Unreal Tournement 3 looks and plays better than them both ... but it seems to go unoticed? the only excuse I can think of is that its never really been on the consoles before ... because Call of Duty 4 does NOT deserve its position over it ...Meu2k7

Why would you say it's gone unnoticed? It's pretty well noticed, I thought. Especially since it's onthe PS3 alongside Killzone, with extras and capabilities that 360's version won't have.

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#59 -D3MO-
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i Agree KZ2 looks better than COD4, but COD4 is coming out in NOV, 2007, while KZ2 won't be out till probably fall 08
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#60 -D3MO-
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i Agree KZ2 looks better than COD4, but COD4 is coming out in NOV, 2007, while KZ2 won't be out till probably fall 08
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#61 EG101
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I don't understand why people think killzone looks so good with such blurry textures. IMO COD4 looks better than KZ2.
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#62 TREAL_Since
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Bioshock looks better than KZ2. CoD4 looks nearly as good as Bioshock (art style smidges it ahead barely). KZ2 looks good, but not godly. That's Crysis.Tri-valley

Naw man, Bioshock is awesome and the artstyle is great but it doesn't look better than KZ2 (which has very cool art of it's own). As far as console games KZ2 outshines them. The lighting, polys, animations, art, and physics really take it to the next level.

Why do I see people comparing Crysis to KZ2. And never see it comparied 360 shooters? Crysis is in a league of its own.

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#63 TREAL_Since
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I don't understand why people think killzone looks so good with such blurry textures. IMO COD4 looks better than KZ2.EG101

If you haven't watched the 25 min video GS has on KZ2 from Leipzig you should. In it, the directer said that they're still in pre-alpha, and have alot more polishing to do like with streaming and textures.

If this game looks this good now, I can't wait to see the final product.

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#64 Mardil
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Killzone looks better, but the 60fps really make CoD4 look amazing. Videos won't do it justice though, you'll have to play a demo.
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#65 LoG-Sacrament
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im predicting that kz2 will be the best looking console game to date when its released. everyone will see what a ps3 game can look like when the devs have had plenty of time to handle the ps3 hardware. cod4 still looks like the multiplayer will play pretty well(reminds me of the wc3 mod for cs).
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#66 RotaryRX7
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COD 4 looks better.-wii60-

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]COD 4 looks better.WalterPaladines

Hold on, take the fanboy goggles off, then take another look....voila!

Lol priceless.

I don't understand why everyone is so "super impressed" with COD4. Since when has the COD series been known for mind-blowing graphics?

Heck, COD3 graphics were crap IMO, and they did not impress me as a "next gen" game.

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#67 -PS360-
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the way it looks

Best Console Exclusive Graphics: Killzone

Best PC Exclusive Graphics: Crysis

Best Multiplat: Unreal 3

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#68 PowerFiend
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I've been through this argument so many times. Sure Killzone 2 looks great, but COD4 is no slouch either. In my opinion COD4 edges out slightly. Why? Killzone 2 uses HEAVY, post-process effects to hide it's flaws. If you look at the new videos, and the new features, such as the cover mechanic, when the player hugs up to the wall, you can see the textures and how muddy and low res they are. Don't get me wrong, in motion, Killzone 2 looks awesome. The lighting again, in Killzone 2 is nice, but again it isn't dynamic. It's mostly static not moving, and fixed in place. The only time the shadows moved during that whole demo was when the lighting struck, and that was most likely scripted. Now look at COD4, the individual BULLETS light up the environment, the shadows play around as the bullet goes through it. While Killzone 2 has what, muzzle flash? COD4 has it's flaws as well. Killzone 2 has way better character models then COD4. That's for sure. Animation is also in KZ2's favor. Can't say much about the physics of either game, because they haven't shown anything for Killzone 2 or COD4. Then again we haven't seen too much of either game, but from the demo's shown thus far, I choose COD4 over KZ2 in graphical fidelity.
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#69 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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Im seriously gonna own you all online, you guys are so worried about textures, watch any of the videos, Kz2, or Cod4, while your runnin and gunnin you dont stop and stare at a wall and look at the textures. Thats what offline is for.
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#70 Cedmln
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OH THE DENIAL IS HORRIBLE!

BUt haven't you guys the noticed the hype for COD4 graphics has gone down?

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#71 ragrdoll21
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I've been through this argument so many times. Sure Killzone 2 looks great, but COD4 is no slouch either. In my opinion COD4 edges out slightly. Why? Killzone 2 uses HEAVY, post-process effects to hide it's flaws. If you look at the new videos, and the new features, such as the cover mechanic, when the player hugs up to the wall, you can see the textures and how muddy and low res they are. Don't get me wrong, in motion, Killzone 2 looks awesome. The lighting again, in Killzone 2 is nice, but again it isn't dynamic. It's mostly static not moving, and fixed in place. The only time the shadows moved during that whole demo was when the lighting struck, and that was most likely scripted. Now look at COD4, the individual BULLETS light up the environment, the shadows play around as the bullet goes through it. While Killzone 2 has what, muzzle flash? COD4 has it's flaws as well. Killzone 2 has way better character models then COD4. That's for sure. Animation is also in KZ2's favor. Can't say much about the physics of either game, because they haven't shown anything for Killzone 2 or COD4. Then again we haven't seen too much of either game, but from the demo's shown thus far, I choose COD4 over KZ2 in graphical fidelity.PowerFiend
Watch that KZ2 video again and look at the light when you fire a gun(shadows are cast every where)..
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#72 Heil68
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So one ps3 game looks better than another? GS didn't think so, COD4 got best graphics at 2007 E03. Wonder why?
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#73 PowerFiend
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[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]The only time the shadows moved during that whole demo was when the lighting struck, and that was most likely scripted. Now look at COD4, the individual BULLETS light up the environment, the shadows play around as the bullet goes through it. While Killzone 2 has what, muzzle flash? .ragrdoll21
Watch that KZ2 video again and look at the light when you fire a gun(shadows are cast every where)..

I'm watching it over, and the only shadow I'm seeing cast is the one off the character. I'm also noticing how nice the animations look in KZ2.
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#74 Cedmln
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So one ps3 game looks better than another? GS didn't think so, COD4 got best graphics at 2007 E03. Wonder why?Heil68

And not Bioschock or Crysis. Wonder why?

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#75 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="PowerFiend"]The only time the shadows moved during that whole demo was when the lighting struck, and that was most likely scripted. Now look at COD4, the individual BULLETS light up the environment, the shadows play around as the bullet goes through it. While Killzone 2 has what, muzzle flash? .PowerFiend
Watch that KZ2 video again and look at the light when you fire a gun(shadows are cast every where)..

I'm watching it over, and the only shadow I'm seeing cast is the one off the character. I'm also noticing how nice the animations look in KZ2.

min 11:30 of the 25 min video you can see the shadows of the tire his shooting(there's more but that just stood out).The lights flicker on and off in that hall way showing the shadows it cast.It's not just "static" lighting.
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#76 walkerctranger
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even though im not sure killzone 2 will be a good game, it really does look alot better than call of duty 4
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#77 amorbis1001
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Gears of war looks better bioshock looks better cod4 def looks better crysis is better.
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#78 OGTiago
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it probably will
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#79 Pariah_001
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So one ps3 game looks better than another? GS didn't think so, COD4 got best graphics at 2007 E03. Wonder why?Heil68

I find it interesting how you consistently emphasize the opinions of others rather than make attempts to state your own.

Perhaps because you realize you only have the word of other people considered "professionals" but no substantial observations of the games through comparison.

I, for one, posit that the rendering in COD4 does not in any way compare to Killzone 2. Let's try to embrace common sense here and just look at the games. Guerilla hasn't even begun the texture polishing yet and KZ still looks better.

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#80 snipe2004
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am i the only here thinks that both games looks damn good? KZ2 has the potential to look better then COD4 because of more dev time but in its pre-alpha stage its already looking darn good.
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#81 PowerFiend
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Stop with the pre-alpha stuff, okay. Don't you think they worked thier ass's off too make the game look almost as good as the trailer? They wouldn't just through the pre-alpha build into a PS3 and use that, it probably has alot more polish then the rest of the game which is in pre-alpha.
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#82 Squall_Griver
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Stop with the pre-alpha stuff, okay. Don't you think they worked thier ass's off too make the game look almost as good as the trailer? They wouldn't just through the pre-alpha build into a PS3 and use that, it probably has alot more polish then the rest of the game which is in pre-alpha.PowerFiend

What? the dev says its in pre-alpha stages
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#83 Adrian_Cloud
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In the end i could see Metal Gear Solid 4 looking better than both when its all said and done.
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#84 atarigrad
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Who cares which looks better. COD4 will blow away KZ2 in gameplay.
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#85 PowerFiend
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[QUOTE="PowerFiend"]Stop with the pre-alpha stuff, okay. Don't you think they worked thier ass's off too make the game look almost as good as the trailer? They wouldn't just through the pre-alpha build into a PS3 and use that, it probably has alot more polish then the rest of the game which is in pre-alpha.Squall_Griver

What? the dev says its in pre-alpha stages

when? give me a link?
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#86 GGNoRematch
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why did you post a multiplayer shot?
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#87 ragrdoll21
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So one ps3 game looks better than another? GS didn't think so, COD4 got best graphics at 2007 E03. Wonder why?Heil68
was COD4 playable @ E3 07?
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#88 Synthetic_NinJI
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It should the game has been getting worked on since 2005.

It has no excuse to look like a crap game.

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#89 Albanian_Killa
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Bioshock, nor Call of Duty 4 look better than Killzone 2. This game isn't even polished yet and it is spectacular. If you saw the 25 minute graphic explanation demo, you'd understand. So much is put into this game to make it look the way it is. You must be blind to think any other game looks better than it because many people (including folks here in GameSpot such as editors) claim this is one of the best graphically-enhanced games they've ever seen on. Now, Crysis vs. Killzone 2, that's interesting. I like Killzone 2 more though. Lighting is spectacular.
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#90 no_submission
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Could have chosen this pic instead but nooooooooooooo....

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#91 PowerFiend
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Bioshock, nor Call of Duty 4 look better than Killzone 2. This game isn't even polished yet and it is spectacular. If you saw the 25 minute graphic explanation demo, you'd understand. So much is put into this game to make it look the way it is. You must be blind to think any other game looks better than it because many people (including folks here in GameSpot such as editors) claim this is one of the best graphically-enhanced games they've ever seen on. Now, Crysis vs. Killzone 2, that's interesting. I like Killzone 2 more though. Lighting is spectacular.Albanian_Killa
Woooo there. Stop right there. Crysis owns killzone 2 so hard it isn't even in the same league. Now your fanboyism is showing. And I have seen that 25 minute video, and I did see what all those post process effects do. Did you notice when he turned them off that KZ2 looked exactly like any other game coming out, even dare I say it Halo 3? Watching that 25 minute video has shown me the textures and how muddy and low res they are. I ca't beleive you would even compare Crysis too that.
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#92 PowerFiend
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In the end i could see Metal Gear Solid 4 looking better than both when its all said and done.Adrian_Cloud
Now that looks awsome.
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#93 -PS360-
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alright abou thte part where "crysis owns everything its not even competition" are all wrong it doesnt look that much better, jsut a little bit better, only the true fanboys say crysis is a much higher league because it isnt even though its slightly superior only made for strong pc's
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#94 PowerFiend
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Are you kidding me? So you think crysis, which requires hardware 2-3x more powerful then the Xbox360 or PS3 looks only a teeny bit better than Killzone 2. WOW.
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#95 -PS360-
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Are you kidding me? So you think crysis, which requires hardware 2-3x more powerful then the Xbox360 or PS3 looks only a teeny bit better than Killzone 2. WOW.PowerFiend

yeah because its true, do you think there is that much of a gap because there is not, eveything you seen on crysis is real high settings at least $1000 (twice the amount for 360/ps3 and all that for 1 game? not worth it, saying that myself im still getting it, but still there isnt a big gap and that is something you people should realize.

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#96 PowerFiend
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Look at an HD version of crysis gameplay. The textures are so crisp and clean, there are no jaggies in sight, the draw distance is upwards of 16km, the vegetation reacts to movement, every single thing in the world casts a REAL TIME soft shadow, FULLY interactive and destructible enviroments, amazing water effects, light and day cycles, volumetrtic clouds, and the list goes on and on. They're comparing this game to real life, for god's sake.
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[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="PowerFiend"]Stop with the pre-alpha stuff, okay. Don't you think they worked thier ass's off too make the game look almost as good as the trailer? They wouldn't just through the pre-alpha build into a PS3 and use that, it probably has alot more polish then the rest of the game which is in pre-alpha.PowerFiend

What? the dev says its in pre-alpha stages

when? give me a link?


Pre Pre alpha
http://www.n4g.com/News-51071.aspx

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#98 Pariah_001
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when? give me a link?PowerFiend

The Guerilla dev who posts on the official Playstation boards already confirmed it there in the Killzone forum.

Also, the fact that they haven't incorporated the texture streaming yet tells it's pre-alpha all on its own.

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#100 sakura_Ex
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I find it funny how people on here always compare Killzone 2to Crysis,you never see Crysis looks better than Halo 3,UT,Haze or COD4,it's always Killzone 2and Crysis...that has to say alot aboutKillzone 2's graphics huh?