killzone 2 -- overrated?

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

I think you are alone in that opinion...it is widely accepted that MW2 is the most casual noob friendly FPS shooter on the market

BlancoBX

lol killzone2 is way more casual dude...on pc no aim assist.

killzone2=aim assist lock on glitcher/cheaters noobs.

you are debating which game is more casual and you bring up glitcher/cheaters as a point against KZ2 when you are arguing for MW2? I can se enow that you have no idea what you are talking about

aim assist=aim bot

modern warfare 2 on pc no aim bot

less casual

I'm going through demos now. MGS4 was awkward and the graphics seemed a bit dated, KZ2 didn't grab me at all and felt generic, Heavy Rain seems really amazing if I can get used to the weird control scheme, but UC2 sealed the deal: that thing is the best looking console game I've ever seen. All in all I think I'm just having trouble getting used to the PS3 interface with all the menus and the controller itself which takes a while getting used to after years with the 360 controller. I'm still on the fence -- I MIGHT sell the system. We'll see...I do want to love it.

How is killzone2 less casual?

u cant even jump and shoot that's noobish.

u cant prone crawl

lol there's less things to control on kz2 more casual.

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

lol killzone2 is way more casual dude...on pc no aim assist.

killzone2=aim assist lock on glitcher/cheaters noobs.

yoyofroyoyoyo

you are debating which game is more casual and you bring up glitcher/cheaters as a point against KZ2 when you are arguing for MW2? I can se enow that you have no idea what you are talking about

aim assist=aim bot

modern warfare 2 on pc no aim bot

less casual

well you are in the extreme minority in that opinion buddy...and you fail to mention the killstreaks, perks, no weapon recoil and terrible hit detection in MW2 that all also make it more casual and noob friendly

Everyone here knows killzone2 ripped off a call of duty 4 multiplayer map layout?

i can give you their exact name if u want.

killzone2 might have the graphics, call of duty has the gameplay and was a obvious influence on kilzone2.

The enemy animations alone made the combat satisfying and for once I didn't feel like I was controlling a camera on a stick. Floppy_Jim

Have you shot a gun in real life?

the first time i shot one was in 1988 i was 4 years old 410 shotgun.

killzone2 might have the graphics, call of duty has the gameplay and was a obvious influence on kilzone2.

yoyofroyoyoyo

and yet killzone won for best FPS on gamespot...go figure huh?

[QUOTE="rp108"]

Welcome to owning a PS3 my friend. Same thing happened to me when I got mine. Bought into the hype and was very disappointed. Use it for Blu-ray/DVD, excellent for that.

bahamut-zero

Still living in 2006 I see.

Nope, download demos and try them a lot on my PS3. Sorry, they have all sucked except for a couple, well one actually.

killzone2 might have the graphics, call of duty has the gameplay and was a obvious influence on kilzone2.

yoyofroyoyoyo

Call of Duty didn't invent the wheel, so I find your comment or better yet - opinion pretty strange. Killzone could've taken ideas from nearly any game on the market-- heck it has ideas from Team Fortress.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]The enemy animations alone made the combat satisfying and for once I didn't feel like I was controlling a camera on a stick. yoyofroyoyoyo

Have you shot a gun in real life?

the first time i shot one was in 1988 i was 4 years old 410 shotgun.

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

killzone2 might have the graphics, call of duty has the gameplay and was a obvious influence on kilzone2.

BlancoBX

and yet killzone won for best FPS on gamespot...go figure huh?

Really? GTA got a 10. Quoting Gamespot is the same as quoting VGchartz after that.

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

killzone2 might have the graphics, call of duty has the gameplay and was a obvious influence on kilzone2.

BlancoBX

and yet killzone won for best FPS on gamespot...go figure huh?

killzone2 wouldnt exist without call of duty.

ive played fps since wolfenstein then doom then rise of the triad then duke nukem then quake then unreal then half life, battlefield/medal of honor/call of duty

list goes on lol i might of skipped some fps in between well i did.

but u get the picture

COD>KILLZONE2

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

killzone2 might have the graphics, call of duty has the gameplay and was a obvious influence on kilzone2.

yoyofroyoyoyo

and yet killzone won for best FPS on gamespot...go figure huh?

killzone2 wouldnt exist without call of duty.

ive played fps since wolfenstein then doom then rise of the triad then duke nukem then quake then unreal then half life, battlefield/medal of honor/call of duty

list goes on lol i might of skipped some fps in between well i did.

but u get the picture

COD>KILLZONE2

yea i got the picture a couple pages ago: you dont know what you are talking about

[QUOTE="grongo2"]

I just picked up a PS3 -- been playing through the demos available, so far I can't find a single game that really blows me away, (different topic for a different thread), but I was surprised how undewhelmed I was by the Killzone 2 demo. Granted, it's just a demo, but as far as graphics king of shooters, I don't know. Honestly, the shooting in ME2 felt more satisfying and looked better, and that's an RPG. None of the combat had that "satisfying" feel of a good shooter, all the enemies looked the same, and the whole tone just felt like a Gears rip-off.

Am I missing something? The graphics seemed above average, nothing mind-blowing.

peaceoutmedusa

Really? because i fell that way 2 Killzone2 looks like a big blur to me they use 2 many blur effects to compansate for AA and all the explosions are just another way to compansate for draw distance fog

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

killzone2 might have the graphics, call of duty has the gameplay and was a obvious influence on kilzone2.

yoyofroyoyoyo

and yet killzone won for best FPS on gamespot...go figure huh?

killzone2 wouldnt exist without call of duty.

ive played fps since wolfenstein then doom then rise of the triad then duke nukem then quake then unreal then half life, battlefield/medal of honor/call of duty

list goes on lol i might of skipped some fps in between well i did.

but u get the picture

COD>KILLZONE2

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

and yet killzone won for best FPS on gamespot...go figure huh?

BlancoBX

killzone2 wouldnt exist without call of duty.

ive played fps since wolfenstein then doom then rise of the triad then duke nukem then quake then unreal then half life, battlefield/medal of honor/call of duty

list goes on lol i might of skipped some fps in between well i did.

but u get the picture

COD>KILLZONE2

yea i got the picture a couple pages ago: you dont know what you are talking about

I clearly do, call of duty's gameplay is far superior.

I just picked up a PS3 -- been playing through the demos available, so far I can't find a single game that really blows me away, (different topic for a different thread), but I was surprised how undewhelmed I was by the Killzone 2 demo. Granted, it's just a demo, but as far as graphics king of shooters, I don't know. Honestly, the shooting in ME2 felt more satisfying and looked better, and that's an RPG. None of the combat had that "satisfying" feel of a good shooter, all the enemies looked the same, and the whole tone just felt like a Gears rip-off.

Am I missing something? The graphics seemed above average, nothing mind-blowing.

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

and yet killzone won for best FPS on gamespot...go figure huh?

DarkLink77

killzone2 wouldnt exist without call of duty.

ive played fps since wolfenstein then doom then rise of the triad then duke nukem then quake then unreal then half life, battlefield/medal of honor/call of duty

list goes on lol i might of skipped some fps in between well i did.

but u get the picture

COD>KILLZONE2

call of duty is cool because it was trying to be realistic kinda, while other fps at the time were like quake twitch shooters.

but the market sucks now because it's flooded with call of duty clones like killzone2.

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

killzone2 wouldnt exist without call of duty.

ive played fps since wolfenstein then doom then rise of the triad then duke nukem then quake then unreal then half life, battlefield/medal of honor/call of duty

list goes on lol i might of skipped some fps in between well i did.

but u get the picture

COD>KILLZONE2

yoyofroyoyoyo

yea i got the picture a couple pages ago: you dont know what you are talking about

I clearly do, call of duty's gameplay is far superior.

whatever you say pal..enjoy your noob fest and ill continue to enjoy a fps that actually requires skill to play and doesnt have ridiculous perks, killstreaks and non existent gun recoil

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

yea i got the picture a couple pages ago: you dont know what you are talking about

BlancoBX

I clearly do, call of duty's gameplay is far superior.

whatever you say pal..enjoy your noob fest and ill continue to enjoy a fps that actually requires skill to play and doesnt have ridiculous perks, killstreaks and non existent gun recoil

lol guns clearly have recoil in call of duty.

try shooting some guns in real life before trying to argue with me about what game has better gameplay.

i agree perks/unlocking of weapons/killstreaks is lame the core gameplay still owns killzone2.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

killzone2 wouldnt exist without call of duty.

ive played fps since wolfenstein then doom then rise of the triad then duke nukem then quake then unreal then half life, battlefield/medal of honor/call of duty

list goes on lol i might of skipped some fps in between well i did.

but u get the picture

COD>KILLZONE2

yoyofroyoyoyo

call of duty is cool because it was trying to be realistic kinda, while other fps at the time were like quake twitch shooters.

but the market sucks now because it's flooded with call of duty clones like killzone2.

Killzone 2 is not a Call of Duty clone. Call of Duty didn't start doing the type of gameplay the series is known for until CoD4, and many other games have done it first and done it better.

I suppose you'd list Halo as a Call of Duty clone, too, right?

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Call of Duty is trash compared to most of the franchises you just listed.DarkLink77

call of duty is cool because it was trying to be realistic kinda, while other fps at the time were like quake twitch shooters.

but the market sucks now because it's flooded with call of duty clones like killzone2.

halo's more of a quake clone.

since u have no iron sight like quake.

You based all this on a demo? I think you should try the full game, maybe it can change your mind about it.

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

yea i got the picture a couple pages ago: you dont know what you are talking about

BlancoBX

I clearly do, call of duty's gameplay is far superior.

whatever you say pal..enjoy your noob fest and ill continue to enjoy a fps that actually requires skill to play and doesnt have ridiculous perks, killstreaks and non existent gun recoil

Yeah dude totally owning peeps with that aim assist. Both games dont take skill, but COD never said it did. IDK why KZ fans like to play the game is gritty and realistic card or it takes more skill idea, cause they make no sense.

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Call of Duty is trash compared to most of the franchises you just listed.DarkLink77

call of duty is cool because it was trying to be realistic kinda, while other fps at the time were like quake twitch shooters.

but the market sucks now because it's flooded with call of duty clones like killzone2.

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

I clearly do, call of duty's gameplay is far superior.

yoyofroyoyoyo

whatever you say pal..enjoy your noob fest and ill continue to enjoy a fps that actually requires skill to play and doesnt have ridiculous perks, killstreaks and non existent gun recoil

lol guns clearly have recoil in call of duty.

try shooting some guns in real life before trying to argue with me about what game has better gameplay.

i agree perks/unlocking of weapons/killstreaks is lame the core gameplay still owns killzone2.

funny because those things are the core gameplay elements of the multiplayer...try playing a game where someones perks or killstreak doesnt change the match entirely...i mean its so fun to have someone call in a helicopter to get 10 extra cheap kills after they just went on a killstreak..thats not noobish or casual at all... :roll:

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

call of duty is cool because it was trying to be realistic kinda, while other fps at the time were like quake twitch shooters.

but the market sucks now because it's flooded with call of duty clones like killzone2.

yoyofroyoyoyo

halo's more of a quake clone.

since u have no iron sight like quake.

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Call of Duty stopped trying to be realistic a long time ago. The reason it's populart popular is it started aping class customization and moved into the modern era. The drop in quality since Call of Duty 2 would kill any other series. Killzone 2 is not a Call of Duty clone. I suppose you'd list Halo as a Call of Duty clone, too, right?DarkLink77

halo's more of a quake clone.

since u have no iron sight like quake.

call of duty is better because u can shoot through walls.

here is a example of it's better in call of duty 4/mw2 u can shoot through cars but guess what? u cant shoot through the engine area, so if a player is getting shot at and they take cover behind a car they should take cover behind the engine part.

call of duty's shooting through objects actually changes the gameplay alot.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

halo's more of a quake clone.

since u have no iron sight like quake.

nmaharg

Then what is it? It certainly is class based. You can just tweak the classes how you like them.

Nope, perfect score.

Only improvments should be better story (but then, witch FPS these days has a good story huh? :D), longer campaign (hmn, trend comming up here), coop, bigger maps and maybe vehicles in MP.

prone crawl helps you take cover behind stuff u couldnt with just regular crouching that alone makes call of duty right off the bat better.

prone crawl helps you take cover behind stuff u couldnt with just regular crouching that alone makes call of duty right off the bat better.

yoyofroyoyoyo

I just picked up a PS3 -- been playing through the demos available, so far I can't find a single game that really blows me away, (different topic for a different thread), but I was surprised how undewhelmed I was by the Killzone 2 demo. Granted, it's just a demo, but as far as graphics king of shooters, I don't know. Honestly, the shooting in ME2 felt more satisfying and looked better, and that's an RPG. None of the combat had that "satisfying" feel of a good shooter, all the enemies looked the same, and the whole tone just felt like a Gears rip-off.

Am I missing something? The graphics seemed above average, nothing mind-blowing.

grongo2

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Point being, however, there are much better class based shooters than Call of Duty. Team Fortress, Battlefield, etc.DarkLink77

Then what is it? It certainly is class based. You can just tweak the classes how you like them.

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

whatever you say pal..enjoy your noob fest and ill continue to enjoy a fps that actually requires skill to play and doesnt have ridiculous perks, killstreaks and non existent gun recoil

BlancoBX

lol guns clearly have recoil in call of duty.

try shooting some guns in real life before trying to argue with me about what game has better gameplay.

i agree perks/unlocking of weapons/killstreaks is lame the core gameplay still owns killzone2.

funny because those things are the core gameplay elements of the multiplayer...try playing a game where someones perks or killstreak doesnt change the match entirely...i mean its so fun to have someone call in a helicopter to get 10 extra cheap kills after they just went on a killstreak..thats not noobish or casual at all... :roll:

try playing call of duty 1/2 on pc.

lol call of duty 2 on pc even owns killzone2....

call of duty 4 is when they added a stupid ass ranking system/perks and all that noob ****

the cool thing about call of duty 4 though u can shoot through walls and u cant in cod2.

I disagree, I think KZ2 deserved the score it got, though the lack of split-screen co-op or multiplayer is very disappointing. It's not the best shooter game on the market today, but it's definitely in my top 10 if not top 5.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] COD isn't class based...nmaharg

Then what is it? It certainly is class based. You can just tweak the classes how you like them.

[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

[QUOTE="yoyofroyoyoyo"]

lol guns clearly have recoil in call of duty.

try shooting some guns in real life before trying to argue with me about what game has better gameplay.

i agree perks/unlocking of weapons/killstreaks is lame the core gameplay still owns killzone2.

yoyofroyoyoyo

funny because those things are the core gameplay elements of the multiplayer...try playing a game where someones perks or killstreak doesnt change the match entirely...i mean its so fun to have someone call in a helicopter to get 10 extra cheap kills after they just went on a killstreak..thats not noobish or casual at all... :roll:

try playing call of duty 1/2 on pc.

i liked the first call of duty games before 3 and 4 came out..those were good, fun, balanced games...the MW games are way to casual for the reasons I have listed and you seem to forget about

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Then what is it? It certainly is class based. You can just tweak the classes how you like them.

DarkLink77

not really 'class'... more like 'outfit'

@ Topic Creator. You most probley need to change the settings on your PS3 to make it look as good as it can. Honestly Killzone 2 is a stunning game unmatched on the 360.