Killzone 2: The game nobody talks about or plays anymore

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#201 SODRChief
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About one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.

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[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.WilliamRLBaker

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

1.bad controls REALLY BAD controls even by any good games standards bad controls.
2.Animation took presidence over control which is why they were bad, who needs 2 second long reload animations that don't match any thing in real life they are put there just to look good and waste time.
3.Inane level design levels are insanely linear more so then most other fps games you literally have no choice on where you go it could only be more linear if it was just straight corridors with no turns.
4.Motion sensing shoehorned in that offered no compelling reason as to being there and used badly you have to go up to valves hit the action button hold R1 and L1 turn the controller, let go, turn, hold the buttons turn, let go turn, hold the buttons...etc and the motion sensing sniping was literally stupid i had to hold the controller stock still or it would skew my aim if i was using the analog sticks.
5.Cover system is forgettable i didn't even realize i could cover until about half way through the game and then its useless the game is so easy you don't really ever have to use it its not intuitive at all.
6.Easy difficulty I beat the game in 4-5 hours on recruit and 5 hours on trooper using the knife all most constantly I don't expect the difficulty to shoot up that much on the other difficulties with the only jump on elite being hud and cross hair removal which really in the end enemies take more shots to kill, and you take less to die...
7.stupid weapon placement in single player most of the non-stock weapons appear once in the game and you get to use them in a limited manner.

Surfice to say killzone 2 didn't get good scores because its a good game it got good scores because like most humans the reviewers bought into hype and allowed them selves to be marveled by graphics.
Killzone 2 does nothing better or any thing equal to other top FPS this generation or last, It is a pretty yet generic and mediocre FPS.

....who plays on the easiest mode then switches to normal without playing hard or elite for that matter...advice if your trying to be a fps gamer...play on the HARDEST MODe before you question difficulty...you'll die in the first few seconds i bet...if you think the controls are so bad....change them(duh) or better yet adapt...oh yeah killzone 2 did get good scores...higher than CoD 4(8.5) < Killzone 2 (9.0)

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#203 Truth_Hurts_U
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Yep, I played it 1 time start to finish and a few hours of MP... Never touched it again.

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#204 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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About one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.

SODRChief
well they got nothing else better to play, what would u expect, I stop playing killzone 2 because i have a few more games that i haven't finish and i'm trying to get all the trophies for infamous
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#205 NYrockinlegend
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Alot of people still play it. It's still the most played PS3 exclusive, probably. It still sells, just at a very slow rate. Compared to COD, its community is significantly smaller, then again, so was and always was Resistance 2's. Still, I prefer KZ2 over COD or R2 because it was so much more fun for me, though R2 is fun with friends over. I'll admit, I've stopped playing it. I haven't had alot of time to play video games lately, and I'm drawn to Infamous right now.
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#206 PurpleHaze89
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The Single player really sucked but the Multiplayer is damn fine. Just got the Flying Sentry Bot and it's kicking a lot of Ass :P

And it's not true that no one plays it anymore i can find full games all day long.

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#207 NYrockinlegend
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I'm sure this is a game alot of people would like, but given the price of the PS3, it's not a big possibility. Well, I had fun regardless. I still gotta buy those map packs, and I haven't completed upgrading all my classes yet. At the same time, I wanna play through the story of Infamous, so I think I'll play Infamous for now.
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#208 Pdiddy105
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The game is a cluster online. There aare always too many people in a choke point which leads to confusion and annoyance (especially with the clunky controls). The game should have supported 16-24 players max.

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#209 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Well I don't have a ps3 (yet) so I can't comment for myself, but two of my friends said they didn't like it.
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#210 FrozenLiquid
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The atmosphere in Helghan, the feeling you're actually in a huge conflict, the Helghast moving and taking cover trying to shoot the living hell out of you, the sound of the weapons, bombs etc, your team mates, your other allies forcing on the enemy, the great level design, the intuitive cover system, the animations, the weapons with the different feeling each give you& the amazing visuals..

Going from an area to another and be heavily attacked watching enemies and allies falling, while bombs flash through the sky and buildings get crushed, taking cover behind war-torn buildings, helping your team mates and getting a couple of bullets for them, rushing out to get the objectives etc etc

* Probable Spoiler* The final Speach from Visari & you fallen friends :(..

If all that still made you believe the game has no 'soul' and gave you the feeling it was made by a marketing dept, than I'm sorry KZ2 & other games alikeare not for you.. Still though we have to respect each others opinions, so I respect yours..

Malta_1980

Sounds likea Michael Bay movie: It's slick, styIish, ultra modern, and flys by you faster than an MTV music video. Oh, and Michael Bay movies have no soul :|

Like Transfomers 2: Revenge of the Fallen, Killzone 2 pulls no punches when it comes to the aesthetics, just like you mentioned. But within those flurry of punches, there's no realmeat behind it. Likea Michael Bay movie, everything comes at you so fast, loud, and all at the same time that your brain automatically shuts down and keeps itself in safe mode until you've found some breathing space. The trouble is, for games like Killzone and Callof Duty, there hardly is any breathing space, so you're conditioned to aim down sights and go for the head without knowing what it all really means. As I played the first few levels the first time through, I didn't know what the hell was going on: I just kept moving forward and watched out for red glowing eyes. That's it. I'm not sure if anyone could comprehend too much of a story with all the fireworks and swearing going on anyway.

It reminds me of Crysis but even that game wasn't too bad.

A game about war doesn't have to give you virtual shellshock though. Just look at the first two Call of Duty games which were very good at making sure you knew what you were doing.

Perhaps the best example of a FPS that isn't so mind numbing is Half-Life or Half-Life 2. It's not big, loud, and proud like Killzone 2, but it makes sure that the message it conveys is sinking in.

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#211 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.WilliamRLBaker

So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.

i smell a troll

1.bad controls REALLY BAD controls even by any good games standards bad controls.
2.Animation took presidence over control which is why they were bad, who needs 2 second long reload animations that don't match any thing in real life they are put there just to look good and waste time.
3.Inane level design levels are insanely linear more so then most other fps games you literally have no choice on where you go it could only be more linear if it was just straight corridors with no turns.
4.Motion sensing shoehorned in that offered no compelling reason as to being there and used badly you have to go up to valves hit the action button hold R1 and L1 turn the controller, let go, turn, hold the buttons turn, let go turn, hold the buttons...etc and the motion sensing sniping was literally stupid i had to hold the controller stock still or it would skew my aim if i was using the analog sticks.
5.Cover system is forgettable i didn't even realize i could cover until about half way through the game and then its useless the game is so easy you don't really ever have to use it its not intuitive at all.
6.Easy difficulty I beat the game in 4-5 hours on recruit and 5 hours on trooper using the knife all most constantly I don't expect the difficulty to shoot up that much on the other difficulties with the only jump on elite being hud and cross hair removal which really in the end enemies take more shots to kill, and you take less to die...
7.stupid weapon placement in single player most of the non-stock weapons appear once in the game and you get to use them in a limited manner.

Surfice to say killzone 2 didn't get good scores because its a good game it got good scores because like most humans the reviewers bought into hype and allowed them selves to be marveled by graphics.
Killzone 2 does nothing better or any thing equal to other top FPS this generation or last, It is a pretty yet generic and mediocre FPS.

sorry i stopped reading at linear level design, if you mean the sp then perhaps though i dont see how you are meant to go about it is an fps afterall, if you meant the mp then i KNOW youre talking out of your ass, i have dabbled in alot of online fps excluding the pc, kz2 online maps are amazingly well done and open.

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#212 LookAnDrolL
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Last time i checked there was plenty of people playing Warzone
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#213 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

About one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.

da_illest101

well they got nothing else better to play, what would u expect, I stop playing killzone 2 because i have a few more games that i haven't finish and i'm trying to get all the trophies for infamous

Or it's for the reason that it's a splendid game. After all, the Xbox 360 inherently trounces the PlayStation 3 as far as games are concerned...

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#214 PSGamerforlife
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[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.nmaharg
so kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market

Not the games I play. I play BF2, TF2, L4D, and CS. Mostly CS.

You pretty much crushed your own argument by stating those games.

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#215 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="da_illest101"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

About one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.

SODRChief

well they got nothing else better to play, what would u expect, I stop playing killzone 2 because i have a few more games that i haven't finish and i'm trying to get all the trophies for infamous

Or it's for the reason that it's a splendid game. After all, the Xbox 360 inherently trounces the PlayStation 3 as far as games are concerned...

Personally i don't even know why Sony competes.

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#216 SODRChief
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In addition, 1.7 million Halo 3 units were sold through in the U.S. through pre-orders. That's slightly more imposing than the Killzone 2 sales...

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#218 Irick_cb
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In addition, 1.7 million Halo 3 units were sold through in the U.S. through pre-orders. That's slightly more imposing than the Killzone 2 sales...

SODRChief

Well, that settles it.

All PS3 owners.

Execute order: 66.

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#219 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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because you have someway to see the amount of people currently playing the game?

zarshack
Ahem. The official Killzone.com website shows that there are 3502 people playing right now.
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#220 dah_master
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This whole argument started with killzone sucking...then went to multiplatform games being better on 360...then something about xbox better than ps3...then mgs solid rising...

Killzone2 was a great game no matter what anyone claims. CoD is pretty much based on real life warfare so nothing really out-of the-ordinary thing here. It was a good game dont get me wrong but basically its just bringing real-world warfare into gaming. Killzone on the other hand, is based on future warfare so anything out of the ordinary can happen like an electric gun fired to revive someone..

Controls- just set it to CoD controls. Maybe you people complaining about the controls are to stoopid to realize there was one or you just posted that to see what negative comments you recieve.

Single Campaign- extremely hard and i'm a pro (if you are like me who as soon as you got killzone played in the hardest difficulty).Story was not that spectacular but still the amount of helghasts they throw at you was unbelivable. Boss fights are okay...last one was REALLy hard for me though.And the helghast in this game are not stoopid.

Multiplayer- Beyond awesome. I lagged ALOT in CoD4(usually 1 bar) but after playing killzone hardly no lag at all.I find it the most intense fps game i ever played and i played alot even halo3.

PS3 is better than 360...Someone mentioned because of live and controllers...PS3 has PSN which is free and is almost as good as live and PS3 controllers have a longer battery lifespan than xbox...and everything else:console,games,etc. PS3 wins hands down... Xbox had higher sales well it came out a year earlier (duh!)

MGS Rising-WE dont even know if its good or not...Now that Snake is dead I no longer am interested in the MGS series...plus MGS4(highest rated game ever) is still not coming to xbox or any other console for that matter so... we still win.

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#222 Jono789
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I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.

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I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.

Jono789
Halo has jets and mechs?
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[QUOTE="Jono789"]

I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.

Stevo_the_gamer
Halo has jets and mechs?

I think he's talkin about Killzone 2
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#225 munu9
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Again with the "nobody plays it" and "it's not a good game argument" :roll:
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#226 Jono789
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jono789"]

I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.

Halo has jets and mechs?

Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are cool
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#227 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jono789"]

I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.

Animal-Mother

Halo has jets and mechs?

I think he's talkin about Killzone 2

...

Read his post again.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jono789"]

I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.

Jono789

Halo has jets and mechs?

Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are cool

I think they are going to put that in Killzone3...if they are still going to but rumours are rumours

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#229 gozalo
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I play it.

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Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are coolJono789
Doesn't sound comparable at all -- perhaps if you were discussing or referring to Battlefield 2142, then your post would hold more weight.
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#231 dah_master
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Just wait till MAG releases...then Halo3 will be nothing but a memory...

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#232 Floppy_Jim
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Just wait till MAG releases...then Halo3 will be nothing but a memory...

dah_master
No, not really.
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#233 samuraiguns
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lol, I still play it. :|

I hate generalizations.

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#234 SODRChief
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Just wait till MAG releases...then Halo3 will be nothing but a memory...

dah_master

Dull joke...

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#235 dah_master
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[QUOTE="dah_master"]

Just wait till MAG releases...then Halo3 will be nothing but a memory...

SODRChief

Dull joke...

wasn't meant to be

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Halo has jets and mechs?Stevo_the_gamer

I think he's talkin about Killzone 2

...

Read his post again.

Ohh man your righjt/
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[QUOTE="Jono789"]Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are coolStevo_the_gamer
Doesn't sound comparable at all -- perhaps if you were discussing or referring to Battlefield 2142, then your post would hold more weight.

OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?
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#238 dah_master
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jono789"]Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are coolJono789
Doesn't sound comparable at all -- perhaps if you were discussing or referring to Battlefield 2142, then your post would hold more weight.

OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?

ok

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#239 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?Jono789
Prevent a war, you say? I was only merely giving you some insight that Halo is not what you think it is. ;) No worries, mate.
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#240 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]Cause it's not a good game.Night-Wolf93

Huh are u serious ? The Multiplayer is amazing ...

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#241 Jono789
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[QUOTE="Jono789"]OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?Stevo_the_gamer
Prevent a war, you say? I was only merely giving you some insight that Halo is not what you think it is. ;) No worries, mate.

Ok then. And just for the sake of it http://talkplaystation.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/killzone2-e3-vs-now.jpg http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/modifications-crysis/14846d1205487998-crysis-mod-very-high-quality-config-1-3-00253811.jpg Crysis vs KZ2 GRAPHICS!
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#242 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="dah_master"]

Just wait till MAG releases...then Halo3 will be nothing but a memory...

dah_master

Dull joke...

wasn't meant to be

Yes, it was.

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I did end up really liking Sev and his gang more than Marcus Fenix and the rest of those lug nuts.
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#244 Animal-Mother
Member since 2003 • 27362 Posts
I did end up really liking Sev and his gang more than Marcus Fenix and the rest of those lug nuts. Bread_or_Decide
ya so did I. They had a little more depth to them than the gears crew. But lets be honest cole train is pretty awesome
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#245 Bread_or_Decide
Member since 2007 • 29761 Posts
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="Night-Wolf93"]

Cause it's not a good game.nmaharg
Huh are u serious ? The Multiplayer is amazing ...

Hardly

Love when the 360 and PC avatar guys say this. Lots of credibility lol.
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#246 Mr_Ditters
Member since 2008 • 1920 Posts

I stopped playing KZ2 for awhile and recently got back into it. I couldnt get used to it because I had played 14 days of Cod4. After actually learning how to play KZ2 and getting used to the controls, I can say it is It is basically the best FPS shooter multiplayer out there.

I tried playing Cod4 again and laughed at the graphics. KZ2 makes Cod4 look like a previous gen game. I used to think Cod4 had good graphics. I couldnt handle the controls either, everything seemed like it was made of styrofoam. There is not weight or realism to anything.

And Halo... are you kidding?

Halo is to Killzone as Brittani Spears is to Mozart. Sure more people listen to Brittani Spears nowadays, but that doesn't mean that it is better music.

Killzone does need a no respawn team elimination mode though. Bad.

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#247 deactivated-652663614c5e5
Member since 2005 • 2271 Posts
the TC created the thread and then never posted in it once, just a troll, nothing more. people talk about KZ2 all the time, as well as play it.
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#248 TREAL_Since
Member since 2005 • 11946 Posts

Regarding the OP's arguments:


1.) No one "talks" about KZ2 yet there is a thread every other day literally talking or complaining about KZ2 :|.


2.) If you can quickly fill a room of 32 players any time of the day then I don't see a problem at all.

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That being said, KZ2 isn't as accessible as COD and Halo. It attracts the hardcore crowd, not the casual *pick up and play* crowd. I'm not saying it's better than those games for that reason, it's just the way it is. It's an amazing game and my FAVORITE MULTIPLAYER next to Team Fortress 2 and Gears 1 (this gen).

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#249 SODRChief
Member since 2009 • 444 Posts

The Killzone 2 sales are not as spectacular as the Halo 3 sales.

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#250 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts

The Killzone 2 sales are not as spectacular as the Halo 3 sales.

SODRChief
Yes, they are. The NPD are lying, Killzone 2 has sold more than Halo 3.