About one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.
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[QUOTE="jerkface96"]
[QUOTE="nmaharg"] How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.WilliamRLBaker
So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.
i smell a troll
1.bad controls REALLY BAD controls even by any good games standards bad controls.
2.Animation took presidence over control which is why they were bad, who needs 2 second long reload animations that don't match any thing in real life they are put there just to look good and waste time.
3.Inane level design levels are insanely linear more so then most other fps games you literally have no choice on where you go it could only be more linear if it was just straight corridors with no turns.
4.Motion sensing shoehorned in that offered no compelling reason as to being there and used badly you have to go up to valves hit the action button hold R1 and L1 turn the controller, let go, turn, hold the buttons turn, let go turn, hold the buttons...etc and the motion sensing sniping was literally stupid i had to hold the controller stock still or it would skew my aim if i was using the analog sticks.
5.Cover system is forgettable i didn't even realize i could cover until about half way through the game and then its useless the game is so easy you don't really ever have to use it its not intuitive at all.
6.Easy difficulty I beat the game in 4-5 hours on recruit and 5 hours on trooper using the knife all most constantly I don't expect the difficulty to shoot up that much on the other difficulties with the only jump on elite being hud and cross hair removal which really in the end enemies take more shots to kill, and you take less to die...
7.stupid weapon placement in single player most of the non-stock weapons appear once in the game and you get to use them in a limited manner.
Surfice to say killzone 2 didn't get good scores because its a good game it got good scores because like most humans the reviewers bought into hype and allowed them selves to be marveled by graphics.
Killzone 2 does nothing better or any thing equal to other top FPS this generation or last, It is a pretty yet generic and mediocre FPS.
well they got nothing else better to play, what would u expect, I stop playing killzone 2 because i have a few more games that i haven't finish and i'm trying to get all the trophies for infamousAbout one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.
SODRChief
The Single player really sucked but the Multiplayer is damn fine. Just got the Flying Sentry Bot and it's kicking a lot of Ass :P
And it's not true that no one plays it anymore i can find full games all day long.
The atmosphere in Helghan, the feeling you're actually in a huge conflict, the Helghast moving and taking cover trying to shoot the living hell out of you, the sound of the weapons, bombs etc, your team mates, your other allies forcing on the enemy, the great level design, the intuitive cover system, the animations, the weapons with the different feeling each give you& the amazing visuals..
Going from an area to another and be heavily attacked watching enemies and allies falling, while bombs flash through the sky and buildings get crushed, taking cover behind war-torn buildings, helping your team mates and getting a couple of bullets for them, rushing out to get the objectives etc etc
* Probable Spoiler* The final Speach from Visari & you fallen friends :(..
If all that still made you believe the game has no 'soul' and gave you the feeling it was made by a marketing dept, than I'm sorry KZ2 & other games alikeare not for you.. Still though we have to respect each others opinions, so I respect yours..
Malta_1980
Sounds likea Michael Bay movie: It's slick, styIish, ultra modern, and flys by you faster than an MTV music video. Oh, and Michael Bay movies have no soul :|
Like Transfomers 2: Revenge of the Fallen, Killzone 2 pulls no punches when it comes to the aesthetics, just like you mentioned. But within those flurry of punches, there's no realmeat behind it. Likea Michael Bay movie, everything comes at you so fast, loud, and all at the same time that your brain automatically shuts down and keeps itself in safe mode until you've found some breathing space. The trouble is, for games like Killzone and Callof Duty, there hardly is any breathing space, so you're conditioned to aim down sights and go for the head without knowing what it all really means. As I played the first few levels the first time through, I didn't know what the hell was going on: I just kept moving forward and watched out for red glowing eyes. That's it. I'm not sure if anyone could comprehend too much of a story with all the fireworks and swearing going on anyway.
It reminds me of Crysis but even that game wasn't too bad.
A game about war doesn't have to give you virtual shellshock though. Just look at the first two Call of Duty games which were very good at making sure you knew what you were doing.
Perhaps the best example of a FPS that isn't so mind numbing is Half-Life or Half-Life 2. It's not big, loud, and proud like Killzone 2, but it makes sure that the message it conveys is sinking in.
[QUOTE="jerkface96"]
[QUOTE="nmaharg"] How? There is no difference in credibility. I give my opinion they give theres if anything mine is more valid. I played the game at its highest level, and alot longer.WilliamRLBaker
So whats wrong with the game then, you took your time to become such a highly touted player, your prolly reknowned around the world as the Ultimate say in whats good, since you can play killzone at such a high level. so whats wrong with the game, you probably just dont like it cause its doesnt control like COD or Halo, everything else it does nearly the same, and its a class based MP so its also different in a way.
i smell a troll
1.bad controls REALLY BAD controls even by any good games standards bad controls.
2.Animation took presidence over control which is why they were bad, who needs 2 second long reload animations that don't match any thing in real life they are put there just to look good and waste time.
3.Inane level design levels are insanely linear more so then most other fps games you literally have no choice on where you go it could only be more linear if it was just straight corridors with no turns.
4.Motion sensing shoehorned in that offered no compelling reason as to being there and used badly you have to go up to valves hit the action button hold R1 and L1 turn the controller, let go, turn, hold the buttons turn, let go turn, hold the buttons...etc and the motion sensing sniping was literally stupid i had to hold the controller stock still or it would skew my aim if i was using the analog sticks.
5.Cover system is forgettable i didn't even realize i could cover until about half way through the game and then its useless the game is so easy you don't really ever have to use it its not intuitive at all.
6.Easy difficulty I beat the game in 4-5 hours on recruit and 5 hours on trooper using the knife all most constantly I don't expect the difficulty to shoot up that much on the other difficulties with the only jump on elite being hud and cross hair removal which really in the end enemies take more shots to kill, and you take less to die...
7.stupid weapon placement in single player most of the non-stock weapons appear once in the game and you get to use them in a limited manner.
Surfice to say killzone 2 didn't get good scores because its a good game it got good scores because like most humans the reviewers bought into hype and allowed them selves to be marveled by graphics.
Killzone 2 does nothing better or any thing equal to other top FPS this generation or last, It is a pretty yet generic and mediocre FPS.
[QUOTE="SODRChief"]well they got nothing else better to play, what would u expect, I stop playing killzone 2 because i have a few more games that i haven't finish and i'm trying to get all the trophies for infamousAbout one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.
da_illest101
Or it's for the reason that it's a splendid game. After all, the Xbox 360 inherently trounces the PlayStation 3 as far as games are concerned...
[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] KZ2 flaws come through more in its gameplay of lack of gameplay rather. It's class sytem is nothing more than glorifed perks, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what class you select, you're pretty much doing the same thing. "Spawn nade shoot die" rinse repeat.nmahargso kinda like halo 3, geow 2, cod 4, cod 5, and just about every other competitive multiplayer game out on the market Not the games I play. I play BF2, TF2, L4D, and CS. Mostly CS.
You pretty much crushed your own argument by stating those games.
well they got nothing else better to play, what would u expect, I stop playing killzone 2 because i have a few more games that i haven't finish and i'm trying to get all the trophies for infamous[QUOTE="da_illest101"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]
About one million gamers play Halo 3 every day at the present time, and the game was put on the market in 2007.
SODRChief
Or it's for the reason that it's a splendid game. After all, the Xbox 360 inherently trounces the PlayStation 3 as far as games are concerned...
Personally i don't even know why Sony competes.
Ahem. The official Killzone.com website shows that there are 3502 people playing right now.because you have someway to see the amount of people currently playing the game?
zarshack
This whole argument started with killzone sucking...then went to multiplatform games being better on 360...then something about xbox better than ps3...then mgs solid rising...
Killzone2 was a great game no matter what anyone claims. CoD is pretty much based on real life warfare so nothing really out-of the-ordinary thing here. It was a good game dont get me wrong but basically its just bringing real-world warfare into gaming. Killzone on the other hand, is based on future warfare so anything out of the ordinary can happen like an electric gun fired to revive someone..
Controls- just set it to CoD controls. Maybe you people complaining about the controls are to stoopid to realize there was one or you just posted that to see what negative comments you recieve.
Single Campaign- extremely hard and i'm a pro (if you are like me who as soon as you got killzone played in the hardest difficulty).Story was not that spectacular but still the amount of helghasts they throw at you was unbelivable. Boss fights are okay...last one was REALLy hard for me though.And the helghast in this game are not stoopid.
Multiplayer- Beyond awesome. I lagged ALOT in CoD4(usually 1 bar) but after playing killzone hardly no lag at all.I find it the most intense fps game i ever played and i played alot even halo3.
PS3 is better than 360...Someone mentioned because of live and controllers...PS3 has PSN which is free and is almost as good as live and PS3 controllers have a longer battery lifespan than xbox...and everything else:console,games,etc. PS3 wins hands down... Xbox had higher sales well it came out a year earlier (duh!)
MGS Rising-WE dont even know if its good or not...Now that Snake is dead I no longer am interested in the MGS series...plus MGS4(highest rated game ever) is still not coming to xbox or any other console for that matter so... we still win.
Halo has jets and mechs?I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.
Jono789
[QUOTE="Jono789"]Halo has jets and mechs? I think he's talkin about Killzone 2I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.
Stevo_the_gamer
I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.
Halo has jets and mechs? Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are cool[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jono789"]Halo has jets and mechs? I think he's talkin about Killzone 2I bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.
Animal-Mother
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Read his post again.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jono789"]Halo has jets and mechs? Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are coolI bet their online numbers would increases 10 fold if they included vehicles, Imagine four men in a mech going around stamping on people and sutff, while Jets fly around dropping bombs ROFL! i would play that all day, although that does sound very halo.
Jono789
I think they are going to put that in Killzone3...if they are still going to but rumours are rumours
Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are coolJono789Doesn't sound comparable at all -- perhaps if you were discussing or referring to Battlefield 2142, then your post would hold more weight.
[QUOTE="dah_master"]
Just wait till MAG releases...then Halo3 will be nothing but a memory...
SODRChief
Dull joke...
wasn't meant to be
I think he's talkin about Killzone 2[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Halo has jets and mechs?Stevo_the_gamer
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Read his post again.
Ohh man your righjt/[QUOTE="Jono789"]Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are coolStevo_the_gamerDoesn't sound comparable at all -- perhaps if you were discussing or referring to Battlefield 2142, then your post would hold more weight. OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jono789"]Im just saying so myself before i get jumped on, I mean jets would be like banshees and mechs kinda like those elephant things... those are coolJono789Doesn't sound comparable at all -- perhaps if you were discussing or referring to Battlefield 2142, then your post would hold more weight. OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?
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OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?Jono789Prevent a war, you say? I was only merely giving you some insight that Halo is not what you think it is. ;) No worries, mate.
Huh are u serious ? The Multiplayer is amazing ... Hardly[QUOTE="nmaharg"]Cause it's not a good game.Night-Wolf93
[QUOTE="Jono789"]OK ok i was just trying to prevent a war , i was wrong can we please move on? Let me buy you dinner?Stevo_the_gamerPrevent a war, you say? I was only merely giving you some insight that Halo is not what you think it is. ;) No worries, mate. Ok then. And just for the sake of it http://talkplaystation.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/killzone2-e3-vs-now.jpg http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/modifications-crysis/14846d1205487998-crysis-mod-very-high-quality-config-1-3-00253811.jpg Crysis vs KZ2 GRAPHICS!
I did end up really liking Sev and his gang more than Marcus Fenix and the rest of those lug nuts. Bread_or_Decideya so did I. They had a little more depth to them than the gears crew. But lets be honest cole train is pretty awesome
Cause it's not a good game.nmahargHuh are u serious ? The Multiplayer is amazing ... Hardly Love when the 360 and PC avatar guys say this. Lots of credibility lol.
I stopped playing KZ2 for awhile and recently got back into it. I couldnt get used to it because I had played 14 days of Cod4. After actually learning how to play KZ2 and getting used to the controls, I can say it is It is basically the best FPS shooter multiplayer out there.
I tried playing Cod4 again and laughed at the graphics. KZ2 makes Cod4 look like a previous gen game. I used to think Cod4 had good graphics. I couldnt handle the controls either, everything seemed like it was made of styrofoam. There is not weight or realism to anything.
And Halo... are you kidding?
Halo is to Killzone as Brittani Spears is to Mozart. Sure more people listen to Brittani Spears nowadays, but that doesn't mean that it is better music.
Killzone does need a no respawn team elimination mode though. Bad.
Regarding the OP's arguments:
1.) No one "talks" about KZ2 yet there is a thread every other day literally talking or complaining about KZ2 :|.
2.) If you can quickly fill a room of 32 players any time of the day then I don't see a problem at all.
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That being said, KZ2 isn't as accessible as COD and Halo. It attracts the hardcore crowd, not the casual *pick up and play* crowd. I'm not saying it's better than those games for that reason, it's just the way it is. It's an amazing game and my FAVORITE MULTIPLAYER next to Team Fortress 2 and Gears 1 (this gen).
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