Killzone 2 Vs. Crysis

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]

Yeah but are the differences really even noticible when you go above 1080p? I really want to know if its just for bragging rights if your PC can handle it at anything above 1080p.

Trmpt

i run it at 1080p as it looks ultra sharp and as at anything else looks crap ( unlike my Ps3 my pc has no chip to upscale). I run most settings on high, a few at medium but not many, game runs fine and looks jaw dropping, i really have never seen anything close to it, especially on consoles.

i wouldn't know, 1920x1080 is the highest resolution i can or ever have played a game on. The difference to 720p (most console games) is very noticable, so much clearer and sharper and textures look so much cleaner.

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="Frozzik"]

i run it at 1080p as it looks ultra sharp and as at anything else looks crap ( unlike my Ps3 my pc has no chip to upscale). I run most settings on high, a few at medium but not many, game runs fine and looks jaw dropping, i really have never seen anything close to it, especially on consoles.

Frozzik

i wouldn't know, 1920x1080 is the highest resolution i can or ever have played a game on. The difference to 720p (most console games) is very noticable, so much clearer and sharper and textures look so much cleaner.

Fisrt of ALL. Are you kidding me? This is a joke, KZ2 could easily do something as pointless as that, any game with a decent physics engine could do that. Heck even LBP could do something as simple as that. Second of all, there is no way that the barrels would even stand like that if we were being totally realistic.(early in the trailer it shows that a good portion of them are HANGING off the cliff).

Adrian_Cloud

Huge size of level x number of barrels x complexity of physics x water physics x beautiful graphics= would smoke the PS3!

I think I'm the one who has to say are you kidding me! Little Big Planet renders much smaller and less detailed objects in a 2D plane. Yes the objects are 3D but theyare made ofwaaaay less polys and can only move in a 2d plane. Do you even understand how simple the mathematics is when simulating something in 2d compared to 3d??

Then there are the sheer number of barrels. I mean start by calculating the number of polys each barrel is made of, how many vertices each requires then multiply by the number of barrels and add to that the huge scene in the background of trees, all with dynamic shadows, physics of their own. The PS3 would have nowhere near the memory or the vertex processing power to render a scene like that!

Add to that, the resolution of the textures used in Crysis is much much higher, occlusion mapping.You've already run out of memory just running that many vertices before evenadding textures and pixelshader ops. Dude, you're so way off comparing something like that to Little Big Planet its sigworthy :lol:

Nice try though! ;)

lol, let me rephrase my question. When you play ANY game on PC, is there any noticeable difference when you go above 1080p? Trmpt

I was actually surprised at it the first time I saw it but there actually is a noticable difference once you go past 1080p.

lol, let me rephrase my question. When you play ANY game on PC, is there any noticeable difference when you go above 1080p?Trmpt

In other words you are trying to rationalize any resolution above the capabilities of current generation consoles is pointless? You know consolites pull that every single generation, last generation 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 were the "pointless" resolutions simply too high to matter. Then this generation comes and suddenly such resolutions are the holy grail that console users fight over having to prove their superiority.

Console capability is not the determining factor on what's worthwhile.

This shows how the Killzone 2 game engine pales in comparison to the CryEngine 2 ESPECIALLY when it comes to physics lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk&feature=related

Behold the 3000 exploding barrels!!

DAZZER7

Did you see the actual FPS he was getting? Less than 0.5

We arent going to see games rendering that many ojects at once that smoothly in game until next gen

Thats just it, i cant because i dont have a monitor let alone a PC capable of running those resolutions, thats why I asked. So I'll take it that your saying that their is a difference then.Trmpt

Higher resolutions always make a difference, even if it's simply the distance small objects come into clarity.

Of course PC games simply improve the resolution, when a console exclusive game goes into 1080p they reduce the graphics to up the required resources, therefore the clarity improvement of 1080p on consoles is arguably negated by the graphical loss.

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

[QUOTE="MegajerkNYC"]

Soz I couldn't find any other Crysis gifs. Nobody makes them because the game does not impress in motion (yes I do own the game).

As for Destructible enviroments being better then animation:

You might be right ;)

Adrian_Cloud

This shows how the Killzone 2 game engine pales in comparison to the CryEngine 2 ESPECIALLY when it comes to physics lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk&feature=related

Behold the 3000 exploding barrels!!

God dude are you desperate or something?

1. No Killzone 2 or any game could never handle that amount of physics. Not even Crysis can handle that amount as all the frames are rendered.

2. The guy was just messing around with the editor.

err, no tbh just no yeah KZ2 looks excellent and is possibly (I personally still prefer nuts and bolts because of its art style) the console graphics king atm but it isnt Crysis, IM sorry :P

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]Thats just it, i cant because i dont have a monitor let alone a PC capable of running those resolutions, thats why I asked. So I'll take it that your saying that their is a difference then.AnnoyedDragon

Higher resolutions always make a difference, even if it's simply the distance small objects come into clarity.

Of course PC games simply improve the resolution, when a console exclusive game goes into 1080p they reduce the graphics to up the required resources, therefore the clarity improvement of 1080p on consoles is arguably negated by the graphical loss.

err, no tbh just no yeah KZ2 looks excellent and is possibly (I personally still prefer nuts and bolts because of its art style) the console graphics king atm but it isnt Crysis, IM sorry :P

dragonfly110

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

This shows how the Killzone 2 game engine pales in comparison to the CryEngine 2 ESPECIALLY when it comes to physics lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk&feature=related

Behold the 3000 exploding barrels!!

Trmpt

Did you see the actual FPS he was getting? Less than 0.5

We arent going to see games rendering that many ojects at once that smoothly in game until next gen

Well it was made in 2008, it will be interesting to see what the new 5xxx from ATI or the 3xxfrom Nvidia can do. I'll admit though, I didn't read the description, I assumed he had a quad SLI set up of 3 GTX295s or something like that.

Anyway here is one of 500 barrels in real-time this time :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWWKseFuWGo&feature=related

Crysis has better gameplay and looks better.

Crysis has better gameplay and looks better.

Filthybastrd

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

err, no tbh just no yeah KZ2 looks excellent and is possibly (I personally still prefer nuts and bolts because of its art style) the console graphics king atm but it isnt Crysis, IM sorry :P

dfgytrydfrgujyt

err is that supposed to be from killzone? If so all that is is a pile of mud :P

[QUOTE="dfgytrydfrgujyt"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

err, no tbh just no yeah KZ2 looks excellent and is possibly (I personally still prefer nuts and bolts because of its art style) the console graphics king atm but it isnt Crysis, IM sorry :P

dragonfly110

err is that supposed to be from killzone? If so all that is is a pile of mud :P

So what is the highest res that is possible that you truely couldnt tell the difference if you went higher? I mean our eyes have a "max" resolution that we our able to see.Trmpt

Whatever the max is we haven't reached it yet, attempting to guess what it is would be arrogant of me. It would be like claiming we will only ever need X amount of ram, inevitably I'd be proven wrong.

Above 2560x1600 resolutions are already in the works, they are talking about 3840x2400 monitors.

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="dfgytrydfrgujyt"] http://i26.tinypic.com/2zdrjf9.jpg that looks better than anything u can post dfgytrydfrgujyt

err is that supposed to be from killzone? If so all that is is a pile of mud :P

well okay, but I just said that I thought Crysis looked better then Killzone...

pic to prove point:

That's the problem with games today all graphics really and no amazing gameplay. this generation sucks it's all graphics. i mean crysis has better gameplay than killzone2 but i think the level design on both suck pretty much. and level design=gameplay also part of itdfgytrydfrgujyt

I disagree. I'm loving gaming atm. Albiet PC gaming. You just have to see my Steam profile lol. Think its on 80 hours in the last 2 weeks. Not all me but most is.

You just need to play different types of games

[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="Wombatringo"]TC is about to get smacked around by about 2000 Crysis pics, I can't wait, lol.Dante2710

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

err, no tbh just no yeah KZ2 looks excellent and is possibly (I personally still prefer nuts and bolts because of its art style) the console graphics king atm but it isnt Crysis, IM sorry :P

dfgytrydfrgujyt

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]So what is the highest res that is possible that you truely couldnt tell the difference if you went higher? I mean our eyes have a "max" resolution that we our able to see.AnnoyedDragon

Whatever the max is we haven't reached it yet, attempting to guess what it is would be arrogant of me. It would be like claiming we will only ever need X amount of ram, inevitably I'd be proven wrong.

Above 2560x1600 resolutions are already in the works, they are talking about 3840x2400 monitors.

I just wonder what they will try to do to 1up the "max" resolution once it is reached lol.

This gives me more reasons to post this video. Massive vehicle explosions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny0bD6LvBa8

This gives me more reasons to post this video. Massive vehicle explosions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny0bD6LvBa8

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="kidcool189"] and some people always question why crysis shots are always spammed...well heres the reason everyone lolshadow_hosi

lol, do I really have to post the Scrat image and gif again?

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="Dante2710"] it needs to be done, the snap them back to reality, so the crysis shorts are needed at some point. Trmpt

lol, do I really have to post the Scrat image and gif again?

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

This shows how the Killzone 2 game engine pales in comparison to the CryEngine 2 ESPECIALLY when it comes to physics lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk&feature=related

Behold the 3000 exploding barrels!!

Trmpt

Did you see the actual FPS he was getting? Less than 0.5

We arent going to see games rendering that many ojects at once that smoothly in game until next gen

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"] You rang? skrat_01

lol, do I really have to post the Scrat image and gif again?

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

This shows how the Killzone 2 game engine pales in comparison to the CryEngine 2 ESPECIALLY when it comes to physics lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5qDeWHNmk&feature=related

Behold the 3000 exploding barrels!!

Ontain

Did you see the actual FPS he was getting? Less than 0.5

We arent going to see games rendering that many ojects at once that smoothly in game until next gen

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Trmpt"]

lol, do I really have to post the Scrat image and gif again?

Trmpt

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]Why are you even comparing a pre rendered film to a game in the context of a 'look how awesome these games look'?skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="Trmpt"] To make the point of how pointless this all is. And that there is always something better.Trmpt

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]The argument is pointless, but as far as technicals go *in games* Crysis is ahead....... why bother establishing a pre rendered movie (that has had months to even render the huge amount of frames) looks better?

skrat_01

For the record you do know that Scrat actually does PWN both of these games right? Both in graphics and in coolness.

[QUOTE="dfgytrydfrgujyt"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

err, no tbh just no yeah KZ2 looks excellent and is possibly (I personally still prefer nuts and bolts because of its art style) the console graphics king atm but it isnt Crysis, IM sorry :P

shadow_hosi

That picture you said that was on low, absolutely KILLED killzone 2's textures, I wonder what it'll look like on ultra high.

Try again, ps3 fanboy.