Killzone 2 Vs. Crysis

Oh and MegajerkNYC, you lousy(and actually funny as well) cow/fakeboy/troll/etc, that should have already been banned long ago just for sheer ignorance: Uncharted does not look like that out of the box. Why don't you post those uncharted screens on a normal sdtv instead of an hdtv with hdmi cables(sold separately, courtesy of sony entertainmet). like most people will? Because just like you said before, most of the people that would play crysis on low settings are not enthusiast gamers really, and they would probably also play ps3 with sdtvs only. Oh and you cant post those screens i asked you for can you? thats because you don't own the game yet and also because there are no BULLSHOTS of u2 on sdtvs amirite?codename-R

Calm down man, the cows have been like this sice 2005. it all cool. here is something to take your mind off it......

Oh and MegajerkNYC, you lousy(and actually funny as well) cow/fakeboy/troll/etc, that should have already been banned long ago just for sheer ignorance: Uncharted does not look like that out of the box. Why don't you post those uncharted screens on a normal sdtv instead of an hdtv with hdmi cables(sold separately, courtesy of sony entertainmet). like most people will? Because just like you said before, most of the people that would play crysis on low settings are not enthusiast gamers really, and they would probably also play ps3 with sdtvs only. Oh and you cant post those screens i asked you for can you? thats because you don't own the game yet and also because there are no BULLSHOTS of u2 on sdtvs amirite?codename-R

If you think this guy is lousy just for posting here, think again. Look at the topics he created:

"Bullshot Crysis Vs. Real Crysis *56k*": http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26960252

"Crysis does not impress me because....*56k is lolz*": http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26938396

Worthy of permanent ban if you ask me.

[QUOTE="codename-R"]Oh and MegajerkNYC, you lousy(and actually funny as well) cow/fakeboy/troll/etc, that should have already been banned long ago just for sheer ignorance: Uncharted does not look like that out of the box. Why don't you post those uncharted screens on a normal sdtv instead of an hdtv with hdmi cables(sold separately, courtesy of sony entertainmet). like most people will? Because just like you said before, most of the people that would play crysis on low settings are not enthusiast gamers really, and they would probably also play ps3 with sdtvs only. Oh and you cant post those screens i asked you for can you? thats because you don't own the game yet and also because there are no BULLSHOTS of u2 on sdtvs amirite?Hanass

If you think this guy is lousy just for posting here, think again. Look at the topics he created:

"Bullshot Crysis Vs. Real Crysis *56k*": http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26960252

"Crysis does not impress me because....*56k is lolz*": http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26938396

Worthy of permanent ban if you ask me.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="codename-R"]Oh and MegajerkNYC, you lousy(and actually funny as well) cow/fakeboy/troll/etc, that should have already been banned long ago just for sheer ignorance: Uncharted does not look like that out of the box. Why don't you post those uncharted screens on a normal sdtv instead of an hdtv with hdmi cables(sold separately, courtesy of sony entertainmet). like most people will? Because just like you said before, most of the people that would play crysis on low settings are not enthusiast gamers really, and they would probably also play ps3 with sdtvs only. Oh and you cant post those screens i asked you for can you? thats because you don't own the game yet and also because there are no BULLSHOTS of u2 on sdtvs amirite?GTR2addict

If you think this guy is lousy just for posting here, think again. Look at the topics he created:

"Bullshot Crysis Vs. Real Crysis *56k*": http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26960252

"Crysis does not impress me because....*56k is lolz*": http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26938396

Worthy of permanent ban if you ask me.

Well at least mods will have tried. Now they're not doing jack, which kind of pisses a lot of people off, as seen in this thread.

It really gets on my nerves when some consolite who barely understands hardware thinks they can make statements on PC cost and capability.

For the purpose of demonstration I have disabled SLI during these tests, basically making my PC a decent system in 2007. The GPU today can be purchased for £80, the CPU isn't even being sold anymore on the sites I have looked at. This is a easily affordable system today, you can get something much better and still be buying on the cheap.

Resident Evil 5 running at maximum settings, under Dx10, at 1680x1050 with 4X AA. In other words completely superior to the settings used on consoles, yet the game runs consistently above the 30 fps needed for smooth game play.

Crysis running on DX9, high settings, 1680x1050 with tweaks to enable god rays. Frame rate is perfectly playable.

And this is why consolites that criticise what you need to run above console capability PC games infuriates me, my system is considered cheap today and yet watch it run these games with settings consoles can only dream of. They have to be faking it to flame bait PC gamers, no one can possibly be that [censored].

i thought i'd fiddle around some more to see what kind of cunning and intelligent response i will get.

GTR2addict

OMGAR What's your custom config!?!?!?

MegajerkNYC

Soz I couldn't find any other Crysis gifs. Nobody makes them because the game does not impress in motion (yes I do own the game).

As for Destructible enviroments being better then animation:

You might be right ;)

OMGAR What's your custom config!?!?!?

those shots have several different, but my BASE config (first one skewed ever gave me and is in a few of those shots is:

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Crysis >>> Killzone2 in graphics, gameplay and mods.editor. Killzone2 has the advantage in online games and thats it.

I own both Killzone 2 looks like a cramped, jaggy, blury last gen mess next to crysis.

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

MegajerkNYC

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

MegajerkNYC

Hopefully this will stop the consoles vs Crysis threads:

Notice the detail in the water effects when the third fish gets back handed making water fly into the eyes of the 5th and 6th fish blinding them and in turn makes them crash into each other.

Some more.

Crysis just wins by a land slide.

[QUOTE="MegajerkNYC"]

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

Trmpt

Hopefully this will stop the consoles vs Crysis threads:

Notice the detail in the water effects when the third fish gets back handed making water fly into the eyes of the 5th and 6th fish blinding them and in turn makes them crash into each other.

Heres proof right here on GS that shows you the difference between consoles and Pc's even back in 2006.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6154261/p-3.html

Consoles dont have the power behind them to pull off sharp images and detail textures and have to hide, or add effects to cover the short commings. Thats why 98% of console games dont even play at even 1280x720 (ie 720p) they have to upconvert to even fill the screen descently.

This thread must live so i can continue to gaze in awe at these beautiful Crysis pics. Then wonder if killzone 2 fanboys are functionally blind, on shrooms, or plain retarded.

Those scripted killzone 2 gif.s are a poor argument. Hell COD4 had a jaw dropping scripted destruction sequence when you blow the electric cable tower. You see the tower slowly tip, then jerk back as it hits the cables maximum length, then slowly the cable deforms and elogate before snapping, sending the tower tumbling off the cliff. Epic. And i'm a civil engineer so i can appreciate that kind of stuff.

But these things are not in the same league as being able to neutralize a problem sniper manning a tower by blowing the tower itself with an m203 nade or rocket. Or AI that, if you're on top of a structure sniping, will rush the structure then blow out the supports so the structure you're on collapses and you're in deep ****

Or detecting an enemy in thick vegetation because you can see the leaves on a line of bushes being disturbed. Or taking out a sandbag MG nest by scattering the sandbags (each bag is its own object capable of being dislodged) with a rocket or m203 shot, exposing the MG operator. Or setting maximum power, punch out the wall to your left, and now you can lean left through your new opening and engage the enemy from a different position (if they saw you from the window in the wall to your front they will lay down supressive fire at that window).... and so forth

And a question for the TC's first post. WTF is "physics based weather"? So if i say throw a box into the air in Killzone 2 will that triggers a thunderstorm? What if i want snow? Do I punch over a barrel? Dont tell me the game is monitoring planetary alignment with the sun. Or like a weather reporter "the hot air current is colliding with this low pressure zone, causing el nino type effects.

*Platoon leader* "Attack has been cancelled. Cant insert into a hurricane zone, soldiers go back to your camps, the foozball table is broken so go read a book or something"" *Rolls ending credits*. This is too much fun.

Uh I guess the weapons look nice..., those EOTech optics look good on anything.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"]

*sigh* *goes to pick up modded Crysis screens from i7 @ 4.2 GHz, 12 GB Corsair Dominator and Tri SLI BFG GTX 280 OC @ 1920x1200 with 16QAA*

Silenthps

Imagine if someone recreated MGS3 levels in Crysis! :o that'd just be amazing

Since everybody else is doing it, I'll just post some of my Crysis screens here:

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Was NOT true even in 2007, the 8800GT had gone down to around £100 in the UK by then, med/high was possible at good framerates. Hell even the £80 8600GTS/GT would do it on Med.

GTR2addict

It wasnt 99.99% but it was most likely in the 90s.

EDIT: Forgot to say, don't feed the troll. KZ2 looks great for a console and everything, but come on. None of the consoles can compare to a PC, he knows this and is only doing it to be a troll.

Argh stop with the Stalker/Clear Sky pics. All they do is apply a ludacris amount of parallax/bump mapping, making everything look grimy and full of pits. The inferior geometry (polygon count), postprocessing effects, and other graphical properties become clearly apparent when you play the game. It takes great screenshots in some areas and when the lighting and camera position are just right. A great game overall for sure, but irrelevant to this topic.

Hah! Not even the new Crysis that's coming on consoles will beat the current Crysis on PC's, let alone Killzone 2.

And yes, I do have a PS3 and Killzone 2.

Killzone 2's blurriness (a postprocessing asset?) is remarkable. I would have to drink 5 Newcastles rapidly to even come close. What an age we live in!

Crysis wins :)

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

MegajerkNYC

Those last couple of Crysis shots actually did it justice, the game is still a snooze but it is a looker.

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

MegajerkNYC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWsROA9Lj9Q&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7vKgy0Oi0&feature=channel

Those last couple of Crysis shots actually did it justice, the game is still a snooze but it is a looker.

sexy_robot_man

:roll:

A snooze that outscored and outsold Killzone 2. Mull that one over.

why are we still discussing which game looks better?? isnt it obvious that Crysis is superior in terms of visuals... personally i only played KZ2, cause i dont have a good gaming PC but i've played the Crysis a few times and it looks great and has solid gameplay too..

However KZ2 surely looks great and on consoles it is currently the best looking game but comparing to to Crysis or saying it looks betteris stupid imo..

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

MegajerkNYC

you should really give up now kid.
tell me when you can play KZ2 with this kind of freedom.

Keep trying...

[QUOTE="MegajerkNYC"]

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

GTR2addict

you should really give up now kid.
tell me when you can play KZ2 with this kind of freedom.

Keep trying...

[QUOTE="MegajerkNYC"]

Still no Crysis Gifs.

Is this because Crysis looks horrid in motion? As an owner of the game I'd have to say yes.

Also about those stills people keep showing. There seems to be a lot of repetitive textures. Too bad the game ships on a DVD. If they had used Bluray they could have used higher quality textures in a wider variety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWsROA9Lj9Q&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC7vKgy0Oi0&feature=channel