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#1 BlackTragedy
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which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

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#2 Cait__Sith
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This is going to be a very painful thread :(...But we should just hold off until Halo Reach is released...

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#3 -Red-Cell-
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Reach, it will be the most recent.

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#4 T-Aldous
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Who is gonna know which has better graphics? Reach hasn't been shown at all really.

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#5 rook2rook
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am an xbox fan but i think kz2 has it

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#6 hockeyruler12
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There is simply not enough information for this comparison to even be made yet.

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#7 BlackTragedy
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Reach, it will be the most recent.

-Red-Cell-

recent doesnt alway = better graphics

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#8 sayonara89
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We only saw bullshot quality in-engine cutscene from REACH (and one screenshot), you really want to compare this to gameplay from the other game? :)
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#9 CanYouDiglt
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which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

BlackTragedy
Ya because graphics matter so much. Which game will sell better? Which shows which one more gamers would rather play Which game will still have a very active online player base a year or two later?
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#10 BlackTragedy
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

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Ya because graphics matter so much. Which game will sell better? Which shows which one more gamers would rather play Which game will still have a very active online player base a year or two later?

No but they matter in SW.

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#11 windsquid9000
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A graphics comparison with no screenshots? Windsquid is not happy :(

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#12 HermitQ6600
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Should I close my eyes and imagine what Reach will look like?

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#13 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

BlackTragedy

Ya because graphics matter so much. Which game will sell better? Which shows which one more gamers would rather play Which game will still have a very active online player base a year or two later?

No but they matter in SW.

To you maybe. Sadly there are to many people now that only care about graphics and that is the only way to judge if a game is good or not. Master Chief has become a game icon because the Halo games are that good. I bet 3/4 the people on here could not even remember the main guy from KZ2 name. I know I have forgotten
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#14 danjammer69
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which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

BlackTragedy
C'mon now. We have no gameplay for Reach yet. There is no way to do any proper comparison at all yet. But the expectations are high since we are talking about a brand new engine for Reach, and MS has been talking about this being the game that will push the 360 further than it has ever been. I am not a Halo fan, but I would love it to trump KZ2 in graphics (I expect it to kill KZ2 in gamplay, since I really don't think this was Killzones's strong point). This way Sony and it's devs can have some proper competition and continue to push the PS3's graphics even further. Then the cycle will repeat itself and MS will do the same...hopefully.
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#15 windsquid9000
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got some screens...

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#16 Panosola
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This is going to be a very painful thread :(...But we should just hold off until Halo Reach is released...

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I agree....the game it is not out yet.We mast wait for that.
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Ya because graphics matter so much. Which game will sell better? Which shows which one more gamers would rather play Which game will still have a very active online player base a year or two later?CanYouDiglt

No but they matter in SW.

To you maybe. Sadly there are to many people now that only care about graphics and that is the only way to judge if a game is good or not. Master Chief has become a game icon because the Halo games are that good. I bet 3/4 the people on here could not even remember the main guy from KZ2 name. I know I have forgotten

tf2>any halo,kz2.halo iconic,yea ok....

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#18 lawlessx
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halo reach comes out late 2010...this isn't really a good time.
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#19 antifanboyftw
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

No but they matter in SW.

reynal1287

To you maybe. Sadly there are to many people now that only care about graphics and that is the only way to judge if a game is good or not. Master Chief has become a game icon because the Halo games are that good. I bet 3/4 the people on here could not even remember the main guy from KZ2 name. I know I have forgotten

tf2>any halo,kz2.halo iconic,yea ok....

yes halo is iconic. did tf2's launch look anything like this?

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#20 danjammer69
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[QUOTE="antifanboyftw"]

[QUOTE="reynal1287"]

To you maybe. Sadly there are to many people now that only care about graphics and that is the only way to judge if a game is good or not. Master Chief has become a game icon because the Halo games are that good. I bet 3/4 the people on here could not even remember the main guy from KZ2 name. I know I have forgottenCanYouDiglt

tf2>any halo,kz2.halo iconic,yea ok....

yes halo is iconic. did tf2's launch look anything like this?

But that has more to do with the representation of SALES than with the game actually flopping from just being a poor game or review scores. Remember, a game can flop and still sell millions. I am assuming that the TC was referring to review scores rather than sales when speaking of floppage. But of course, I may be wrong. Many people continue to confuse the two.
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#21 johnny27
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Reach, it will be the most recent.

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crysis completely invalidates this argument
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#22 antifanboyftw
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[QUOTE="danjammer69"][QUOTE="antifanboyftw"]

[QUOTE="reynal1287"]

tf2>any halo,kz2.halo iconic,yea ok....

yes halo is iconic. did tf2's launch look anything like this?

But that has more to do with the representation of SALES than with the game actually flopping from just being a poor game or review scores. Remember, a game can flop and still sell millions. I am assuming that the TC was referring to review scores rather than sales when speaking of floppage. But of course, I may be wrong. Many people continue to confuse the two.

i wasn't trying to talk about sales or scores. i was under the impresstion that iconic was how well known a series is and therefore remembered. my point being that halo has proven itself to be iconic by having such a huge following. tf2 is a great game and does have its large fanbase, but i doubt it is as popular worldwide as halo. if halo isn't iconic than how is tf2?
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#23 BloodSeeker1337
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I'm Guessing Halo Reach Since It's Running On A New Custom Engine :)
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#24 Phazevariance
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which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

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While were at it, what's the winning lotto ticket numbers for next week?
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#25 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="-Red-Cell-"]

Reach, it will be the most recent.

johnny27
crysis completely invalidates this argument

What about Crysis 2?
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#26 planbfreak4eva
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kz2

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#27 mayceV
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which do you think will have the better graphics................................ Why did I ask this we already know the answer :P

BlackTragedy
what are we gonna compare the cinimatics of Kz2 to Halo Reach?
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#29 SamGv
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We will not know which game has better graphics till the game is actually released. Debating anything until then is a waste of time.

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#30 DragonfireXZ95
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Reach, it will be the most recent.

-Red-Cell-
Crysis has been out since 2007 and it still hasn't been topped. Your point is invalid.
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#31 CTR360
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KZ3 probably have the best graphics reach engine its fantastic but i want see gameplay for bungie
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#32 Racer850
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It's not even 2010, and we are comparing a game with barely any screens, and no gameplay, to a game thats been out since early 09?
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#33 skektek
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Reach, it will be the most recent.

-Red-Cell-

You would think so but from what we have seen so far (which isn't much) Killzone 2 is miles ahead.

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#34 skektek
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[QUOTE="-Red-Cell-"]

Reach, it will be the most recent.

johnny27

crysis completely invalidates this argument

The discussion is between Killzone 2 and Halo: Reach. At this point you are just trolling.

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#35 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="johnny27"][QUOTE="-Red-Cell-"]

Reach, it will be the most recent.

skektek

crysis completely invalidates this argument

The discussion is between Killzone 2 and Halo: Reach. At this point you are just trolling.

What is this your obligatory post when Crysis is mentioned? Without even looking at the context of the ****ing post?

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#36 tupapi006
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If Reach = killzone II in graphics Reach fails

Reach needs to be better in graphics because its a 2010 title

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#37 siddhu33
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If Reach = killzone II in graphics Reach fails

Reach needs to be better in graphics because its a 2010 title

tupapi006

Who said it needs to be better?? I think it looks excellent as it is, and if you get the obligatory size of engagements, and the relative non-linearity in Halo compared to Killzone, then I won't really care.

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#38 InfiniteBlak
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knowing what the 360 can put out, i think KZ2 will still be the victor.
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#39 Zero_epyon
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Killzone 3 :lol:

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#40 siddhu33
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knowing what the 360 can put out, i think KZ2 will still be the victor.InfiniteBlak

Just curious, but how do you know what the 360 can put out, unless you have actually used a proper dev kit, designed for the 360?? The only right answer is to wait till launch.

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#41 siddhu33
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Killzone 3 :lol:

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Hope they put a Co-Op campaign...

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#42 C_BozkurT_C
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great graphics =/= great game

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#43 siddhu33
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great graphics =/= great game

C_BozkurT_C

Which is why Halo 3 is still played by more than 500,000 people today.

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#44 InfiniteBlak
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="tupapi006"]

If Reach = killzone II in graphics Reach fails

Reach needs to be better in graphics because its a 2010 title

Who said it needs to be better?? I think it looks excellent as it is, and if you get the obligatory size of engagements, and the relative non-linearity in Halo compared to Killzone, then I won't really care.

yeah because Halo games have huge open worlds, lmao.
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#45 siddhu33
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[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="tupapi006"]

If Reach = killzone II in graphics Reach fails

Reach needs to be better in graphics because its a 2010 title

InfiniteBlak

Who said it needs to be better?? I think it looks excellent as it is, and if you get the obligatory size of engagements, and the relative non-linearity in Halo compared to Killzone, then I won't really care.

yeah because Halo games have huge open worlds, lmao.

Compared to Killzone 2, which is just an exercise in corridors, Yes.

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#46 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]

great graphics =/= great game

siddhu33

Which is why Halo 3 is still played by more than 500,000 people today.

Halo 3 is mediocre. Killzone 2 will still have better graphics, PS3 has better hardware. Halo reach probably won't even be in the category for best looking game of the year, the VGA trailers was far from impressive. With games like The Last Gaurdian, Mass Effect, Heavy Rain, Brink, Mafia II the only reason halo reach will even be looked at is because of the name.
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#47 Zero_epyon
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Many people think that MS doesn't care about these things. They're wrong. All companies, excluding nintendo, care about graphics. Yes gameplay is always priority but if your system can't match up to key game components of rival games then you're losing.

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#48 Doctor-McNinja
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[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"] yeah because Halo games have huge open worlds, lmao.

They dont have 'huge open worlds' but they have sandbox levels. Halo 3 had some very large environments indeed. Larger than anything in the likes of Call of Duty or Killzone. That's always been one of it's charms, and where they went astray in Halo 2 in making it more linear. I'm glad they went back to big open levels in Halo 3.
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#49 Doctor-McNinja
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Halo 3 is mediocre.

One of the most redundant comments on the internet at this point, surely? Not saying YOUR comment in particular, just that one in general.
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#50 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Halo 3 is mediocre.

One of the most redundant comments on the internet at this point, surely? Not saying YOUR comment in particular, just that one in general.

Its the truth, people play it cause its 'just' fun. But its nothing extraordinary there are several better fps experiences and games in general, reviewers and journalists need to get off MS's jock.