agreed 10 thous that killzone3 is way better than halo gams because killzone has the bestest graphics and thats all that matters for sony games imho
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hurr durr grimdark space Nazis in SPACE so edgy and deep hurr Call of Duty in SPACE = so innovative durr
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]
Time to use your list against you. If that's what you consider amazing advancement which Killzone has but Halo lacks, please see the added green text for Halo 3 and Halo Reach. ;)arbitor365
I dont think that most of those retorts are parallel at all.
for example, there was practically no change to the engine between halo 3 and halo reach.it is practically the same engine.
or when you mentioned the gunplay. halo reach's gunplay is no different from the other games, nor is its physics.
plus, the AI in halo is still weak. halo reach's AI still lacked any tactical abilities.
I dont see any improvements in the area of story in any of the halo games. it has been mediocre since the first game. master cheif has no personality whatsoever.
third person support isnt really as impressive of a mechanic as a cover system.
and im calling BS on the statement that halo reach is more visually diverse than any other console FPS.
one of the worst posts I've ever seen on SW.
Reach's engine can have up to 50 AI on screen. It can have thousands of polygons for a model, while Halo 3s only had 100. The graphics have received a huge overhaul, as have the character model textures.
Halo CEs AI is quite arguably better than most FPSs on the market, and its 10 years old. KZ3 has excellent AI, though KZ2s spammed grenades to win(much like COD on veteran) I'd say that KZ3s and Reachs AI are on par.
I could go on, but as someone else said, its WRONG. not opinion, but factually incorrect.
[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Killzone 3 removed Private game servers Dedicated servers Clan Support Servers all together It has essentially been turned into a cod clone with big ass maps. Congratulations, your game has now about the same features as a 7 year old game known as halo 2. Killzone 3, innovation lol TintedEyesThese are false, and KZ2 had dedicated servers? lol at COD clone too Hell yeah it did, and I'm almost at the highest rank in the game, I was able to create my own dedicated servers and choose many others, that's one of the best things about KZ2, it's a shame KZ3 lacked them. KZ3 has perks and killstreaks BTW, holding a assault rifle and shotgun with a perk, LOL.
[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Killzone 3 removed Private game servers Dedicated servers Clan Support Servers all together It has essentially been turned into a cod clone with big ass maps. Congratulations, your game has now about the same features as a 7 year old game known as halo 2. Killzone 3, innovation lol SandvichmanThese are false, and KZ2 had dedicated servers? lol at COD clone too It certainly had dedicated servers, and i cant make a custom private game, nor can a host a server which anyone can join, no they swapped in for matchmaking, a step back in game design, I really hate matchmaking now.:( At least it has custom games, though nothing beats dedicated servers.
Halo Reach has better enemy A.I, its way harder, it has sandbox level design, it has more colour, the gameplay is better, the online has more options, constant playlist updates, better level design, it doesn't take 4 hours to beat on the hardest mode, the story is way better, the characters are way better and Halo is just a better game you are a delusional fanboy if you can't except that. And by the way Halo's AI destroys killzonesSledgehammer117i dont care about sandbox if the levels feel barren and incomplete.
I don't quite understand the purpose of this post. Are you calling people who like the game mentally ill?hurr durr grimdark space Nazis in SPACE so edgy and deep hurr Call of Duty in SPACE = so innovative durr
DerpyMcDerp
Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's from my point of view, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc.
[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to make explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc. The multiplayer has killstreaks and perks and is at much faster paced than Killzone 2. It's not entirely a clone, but it has a lot of what makes it COD.hurr durr grimdark space Nazis in SPACE so edgy and deep hurr Call of Duty in SPACE = so innovative durr
shakmaster13
I don't quite understand the purpose of this post. Are you calling people who like the game mentally ill?[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
hurr durr grimdark space Nazis in SPACE so edgy and deep hurr Call of Duty in SPACE = so innovative durr
shakmaster13
Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's from my point of view, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc.
Maybe he's like everyone else and avoiding the generic Killzone. The demo was enough to make me glad I sold it. Rico is a joke...Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to make explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc. The multiplayer has killstreaks and perks and is at much faster paced than Killzone 2. It's not entirely a clone, but it has a lot of what makes it COD. That's true, but unlike CoD the killstreaks don't give you overpowered abilities. It is also not in space. But I do agree that it is much more CoD-like thatn KZ2.[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
hurr durr grimdark space Nazis in SPACE so edgy and deep hurr Call of Duty in SPACE = so innovative durr
mitu123
I don't quite understand the purpose of this post. Are you calling people who like the game mentally ill?[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
hurr durr grimdark space Nazis in SPACE so edgy and deep hurr Call of Duty in SPACE = so innovative durr
shakmaster13
Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's from my point of view, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc.
HAHAHAHAHA, oh wow! Holy derp!
I don't quite understand the purpose of this post. Are you calling people who like the game mentally ill?[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]
[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
hurr durr grimdark space Nazis in SPACE so edgy and deep hurr Call of Duty in SPACE = so innovative durr
DerpyMcDerp
Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's from my point of view, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc.
HAHAHAHAHA, oh wow! Holy derp!
Do you know the story behind the Helghast? If you did, you wouldn't be laughing.
Opinions opinions, opinions....
While I agree KZ3 is better (maybe not better than Halo CE), many think Reach is better. People should just stop trying to claim either as fact (if in fact you're doing this).
Chutebox
But this is System Wars! Don't you know that everyone is right, while everyone else is wrong?
[QUOTE="mitu123"]The multiplayer has killstreaks and perks and is at much faster paced than Killzone 2. It's not entirely a clone, but it has a lot of what makes it COD. That's true, but unlike CoD the killstreaks don't give you overpowered abilities. It is also not in space. But I do agree that it is much more CoD-like thatn KZ2. Extra Primary Weapon(assault rifle and shotgun)+Increased Bullet Damage+Faster Reload=Deadly.:P But yeah, it's not as bad, at least it doesn't have nukes or choppers.[QUOTE="shakmaster13"] Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to make explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc. shakmaster13
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
Opinions opinions, opinions....
While I agree KZ3 is better (maybe not better than Halo CE), many think Reach is better. People should just stop trying to claim either as fact (if in fact you're doing this).
turtlethetaffer
But this is System Wars! Don't you know that everyone is right, while everyone else is wrong?
Nah, I'm right and everyone else is wrong![QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]I don't quite understand the purpose of this post. Are you calling people who like the game mentally ill?
Maybe if you spent less time on b you would be able to explain your thoughts in a decent cohesive sentence. The helghast are NOT space nazi's from my point of view, they're the good guys(although you could make the case that nazi germany was completely justified in jumpstarting WW2). It is far from CoD in space, the ai is decent, there aren't infinite characters popping out of thin air until you reach certain checkpoints, etc.
Chutebox
HAHAHAHAHA, oh wow! Holy derp!
Do you know the story behind the Helghast? If you did, you wouldn't be laughing.
Yes, I do. Even the developers have said that the Helgast are based off of the Nazis.[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]
Opinions opinions, opinions....
While I agree KZ3 is better (maybe not better than Halo CE), many think Reach is better. People should just stop trying to claim either as fact (if in fact you're doing this).
Chutebox
But this is System Wars! Don't you know that everyone is right, while everyone else is wrong?
Nah, I'm right and everyone else is wrong!Exactly! My opinion is right, and fact, while everyone else's is wrong!
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
HAHAHAHAHA, oh wow! Holy derp!
DerpyMcDerp
Do you know the story behind the Helghast? If you did, you wouldn't be laughing.
Yes, I do. Even the developers have said that the Helgast are based off of the Nazis. Just the look of them. Kinda. More like their symbols and the speeches given.[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]Yes, I do. Even the developers have said that the Helgast are based off of the Nazis. Just the look of them. Kinda. More like their symbols and the speeches given.Do you know the story behind the Helghast? If you did, you wouldn't be laughing.
Chutebox
"They possess a mentality that's similar to how the Nazis viewed those not part of the Aryan bloodline. Helghast look down on humans as weak, lying, and spineless. Although the Helghast are physically still human, they consider themselves superior to the human race in terms of society and culture" -Herman Hulst, game director of Guerilla Games
Nope, not space Nazis :roll:
Just the look of them. Kinda. More like their symbols and the speeches given.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]Yes, I do. Even the developers have said that the Helgast are based off of the Nazis.DerpyMcDerp
"They possess a mentality that's similar to how the Nazis viewed those not part of the Aryan bloodline. Helghast look down on humans as weak, lying, and spineless. Although the Helghast are physically still human, they consider themselves superior to the human race in terms of society and culture" -Herman Hulst, game director of Guerilla Games
Nope, not space Nazis :roll:
Having a mentality similar to the Nazis does not make them "space nazis." Read the back story and you'll understand why they're different. Until then, you just will have ignorance to the subject.[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Just the look of them. Kinda. More like their symbols and the speeches given.Chutebox
"They possess a mentality that's similar to how the Nazis viewed those not part of the Aryan bloodline. Helghast look down on humans as weak, lying, and spineless. Although the Helghast are physically still human, they consider themselves superior to the human race in terms of society and culture" -Herman Hulst, game director of Guerilla Games
Nope, not space Nazis :roll:
Having a mentality similar to the Nazis does not make them "space nazis." Read the back story and you'll understand why they're different. Until then, you just will have ignorance to the subject. I already did, it is very similar to what happened to Germany after WW1 and onward. The Helgast are obviously based off of the Nazis, if you can't see that then...And Nazism is merely an ideology and a mentality, the Helgast have both, hence Helgast = Nazis in space
Hell, it's even on Wikipedia:The term "Space Nazis" is also aKillzonefan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, theHelghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society,state flagand history all are inspired fromNazi GermanyandWorld War II. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Nazis
Just the look of them. Kinda. More like their symbols and the speeches given.[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]Yes, I do. Even the developers have said that the Helgast are based off of the Nazis.DerpyMcDerp
"They possess a mentality that's similar to how the Nazis viewed those not part of the Aryan bloodline. Helghast look down on humans as weak, lying, and spineless. Although the Helghast are physically still human, they consider themselves superior to the human race in terms of society and culture" -Herman Hulst, game director of Guerilla Games
Nope, not space Nazis :roll:
Only if Britain+France had kicked the Germans out of Germany after WW1, made Germany their main base of operations, and put the Germans in an irradiated desolate part of the earth (maybe a nuked version of Mongolia) where most of them die and those that adapted bred to create people superior to other humans due to their adaptations.Having a mentality similar to the Nazis does not make them "space nazis." Read the back story and you'll understand why they're different. Until then, you just will have ignorance to the subject. I already did, it is very similar to what happened to Germany after WW1 and onward. The Helgast are obviously based off of the Nazis, if you can't see that then...[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
"They possess a mentality that's similar to how the Nazis viewed those not part of the Aryan bloodline. Helghast look down on humans as weak, lying, and spineless. Although the Helghast are physically still human, they consider themselves superior to the human race in terms of society and culture" -Herman Hulst, game director of Guerilla Games
Nope, not space Nazis :roll:
DerpyMcDerp
And Nazism is merely an ideology and a mentality, the Helgast have both, hence Helgast = Nazis in space
Hell, it's even on Wikipedia:The term "Space Nazis" is also aKillzonefan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, theHelghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society,state flagand history all are inspired fromNazi GermanyandWorld War II. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Nazis
So their symbols....like I said...
[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"] Just the look of them. Kinda. More like their symbols and the speeches given.shakmaster13
"They possess a mentality that's similar to how the Nazis viewed those not part of the Aryan bloodline. Helghast look down on humans as weak, lying, and spineless. Although the Helghast are physically still human, they consider themselves superior to the human race in terms of society and culture" -Herman Hulst, game director of Guerilla Games
Nope, not space Nazis :roll:
Only if Britain+France had kicked the Germans out of Germany after WW1, made Germany their main base of operations, and put the Germans in an irradiated desolate part of the earth (maybe a nuked version of Mongolia) where most of them die and those that adapted bred to create people superior to other humans due to their adaptations. Haha, no kidding.I already did, it is very similar to what happened to Germany after WW1 and onward. The Helgast are obviously based off of the Nazis, if you can't see that then...[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Having a mentality similar to the Nazis does not make them "space nazis." Read the back story and you'll understand why they're different. Until then, you just will have ignorance to the subject.
Chutebox
And Nazism is merely an ideology and a mentality, the Helgast have both, hence Helgast = Nazis in space
Hell, it's even on Wikipedia:The term "Space Nazis" is also aKillzonefan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, theHelghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society,state flagand history all are inspired fromNazi GermanyandWorld War II. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Nazis
So their symbols....like I said...
"The term "Space Nazis" is also a Killzone fan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, the Helghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society, state flag and history all are inspired from Nazi Germany and World War II."
More like everything.
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"] I already did, it is very similar to what happened to Germany after WW1 and onward. The Helgast are obviously based off of the Nazis, if you can't see that then...
And Nazism is merely an ideology and a mentality, the Helgast have both, hence Helgast = Nazis in space
Hell, it's even on Wikipedia:The term "Space Nazis" is also aKillzonefan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, theHelghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society,state flagand history all are inspired fromNazi GermanyandWorld War II. -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Nazis
DerpyMcDerp
So their symbols....like I said...
"The term "Space Nazis" is also a Killzone fan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, the Helghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society, state flag and history all are inspired from Nazi Germany and World War II."
More like everything.
I've told you numerous times why they are also different from "space nazis." You obviously love wiki so much yet know so little about the story. Do yourself a favor and look it up.And guess what, if you were treated like the Helghast you'd act like them too. Pissed off.
You people seem to fail to realize that wearing the clothes and having the same idiology would make it easy to view them as Nazi's.
[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]
So their symbols....like I said...
Chutebox
"The term "Space Nazis" is also a Killzone fan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, the Helghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society, state flag and history all are inspired from Nazi Germany and World War II."
More like everything.
I've told you numerous times why they are also different from "space nazis." You obviously love wiki so much yet know so little about the story. Do yourself a favor and look it up.Listen, slight differences do not mean that the Helgast are not analogies for Nazis. If you can't see that the Helgast are obviously Nazis, then you must read braile. You probably also don't see the connection between the Covenant and Islam in Halo as well, right?
I've told you numerous times why they are also different from "space nazis." You obviously love wiki so much yet know so little about the story. Do yourself a favor and look it up.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
"The term "Space Nazis" is also a Killzone fan-coined term referring to the game series' spacefaring enemy faction, the Helghast. This is due to the fact that the Helghast uniform and helmet greatly resembles that of the Nazi German uniform and that their overall motivations, society, state flag and history all are inspired from Nazi Germany and World War II."
More like everything.
DerpyMcDerp
Listen, slight differences do not mean that the Helgast are not analogies for Nazis. If you can't see that the Helgast are obviously Nazis, then you must read braile. You probably also don't see the connection between the Covenant and Islam in Halo as well, right?
Last time as I'm done circuling the ignorance wagon and you literally ignore everything. Similarites does not make it so.[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]
[QUOTE="Chutebox"] I've told you numerous times why they are also different from "space nazis." You obviously love wiki so much yet know so little about the story. Do yourself a favor and look it up.Chutebox
Listen, slight differences do not mean that the Helgast are not analogies for Nazis. If you can't see that the Helgast are obviously Nazis, then you must read braile. You probably also don't see the connection between the Covenant and Islam in Halo as well, right?
Last time as I'm done circuling the ignorance wagon and you literally ignore everything. Similarites does not make it so. I'm sorry, but even fans of the games call them "Space Nazis." And again I have read the lore, the story is very similar to German history from WW1 to WW2. They were obviously BASED ON and DESIGNED after the Nazis, but obviously it's not going to be exactly the same...It's a matter of perspective if your differences are enough not to make them 'space nazis.'Last time as I'm done circuling the ignorance wagon and you literally ignore everything. Similarites does not make it so.
Chutebox
wow..u just described halo[QUOTE="TehOverkill"]
Blurzone may have better graphics, but with that comes one **** single-player campaign and a boring multiplayer.
campzor
lol
This just goes to show that different strokes is so true. Team Fortress 2 and Halo Reach are the most fun I can possibly have playing a FPS. On the other hand, another gamer might be bored out of their mind playing those two games.
We got to respect each others opinions guyz!
killzone killed halo imho
_SWAG_
To be honest I quit playing Halo a long time ago. I probably only played 5x TOTAL online with any HALO game. I did however like all the campaigns playing splitscreen with my friends and family. HALO was good..but its nothing to me now..Except my original HALO CE game I bought a week before the actual XBOX even launched way back when..:D I will forever hold that game dear and near..
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