Killzone 3 is better than Halo games

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#102 Bigboi500
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It's a known fact that a lot of SW posters are quite unfamiliar with some of the games they bash. Those kinds of posters have no intention of being fair or open-minded. That isn't an assumption. How you can defend uninformed posters' views is beyond me.

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#103 arbitor365
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As an avid PC gamer Halo is the closest an FPS comes to playable on the consoles for me, so I'm giving it a nod in that regard.

Bungie really knows their stuff.

Raymundo_Manuel

you really dont play alot of console games then. or games in general

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#104 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I'm loving KZ2 atm but not the campaign. But I still prefer Halo

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#105 shakmaster13
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Just remembered another reason as to why Killzone 3 is superior to all Halo games(except Halo:Wars as they are different genres).

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#106 The__Havoc
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I'm thinking this is a joke thread. Well coming from another source I'll share

Killzone 3 lacks

  1. Forge Mode/Map Editor
  2. Custom Game Types
  3. Custom Games
  4. Horde Mode/Terrorist Hunt/ Fire Fight
  5. 4 Player Co-Op
  6. Online Co-Op
  7. Lack of focus on vehicular combat
  8. Theater
  9. Auto Balance
  10. Poor Party System
  11. Difficulty in Finding Balanced Games
  12. Custom Sound Track

I'll also continue with....

Removal of Tactican Spawn Grenades

Unable to mix and match abilities of different classes

No Camera around respawn zones

  1. - no custom servers
  2. - Terrible spawns
  3. - TSP blow
  4. - No squad spawn
  5. - No prox chat
  6. - Unbalanced weapons ( not just 1)
  7. - Unbalanced classes
  8. - bad flawed maps in certain aspects
  9. - Pretty bad aim assist
  10. - Sprint system
  11. - Health system/damage system
  12. - no spectator modes
  13. - no spawn cams
  14. - no custom games
  15. - no replay battles
  16. - no proxy tchat
  17. - no bots onlines

Outside of the better mroe fluent controls this game is vastly inferior to Killzone 2

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#107 devilsoultaker2
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sorry but Halo Reach > Dance Central = KZ3

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#108 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

9.5 > 8.5,reviews speak louder than words sorry it ain't better.Tessellation
Don't ya hate it when people use scores as shields?

I actually predicted people would hide behind them earlier in the thread lol. Personally I don't hate it, but I do find it sort of amusing that it's all they have to use as a shield without even playing the games, also falling behind players online is a common one.

And? I'm confused you act as though you've proven this thing yet haven't proved any one wrong. Scores, Users online, sales all of these side with the Halo series...the killzone series? not so much. You brought no single thing to bare to show how Halo as a series is inferior to Killzone 3 by the TC's opinion.
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#109 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Don't ya hate it when people use scores as shields?

WilliamRLBaker

I actually predicted people would hide behind them earlier in the thread lol. Personally I don't hate it, but I do find it sort of amusing that it's all they have to use as a shield without even playing the games, also falling behind players online is a common one.

And? I'm confused you act as though you've proven this thing yet haven't proved any one wrong. Scores, Users online, sales all of these side with the Halo series...the killzone series? not so much. You brought no single thing to bare to show how Halo as a series is inferior to Killzone 3 by the TC's opinion.

What do users online or sales have to do with quality?

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#110 DarkLink77
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well OT, this is apparent to anyone who actually plays it. unfortunately, most people on SW havent actually played through the game (and that probably even includes some of the PS3 fans who defend it).

here is a little anecdote to exemplify this point

I have a friend who is a pretty big halo fan. he is a hardcore gamer and is actually quite a bit older than me. He came over to stay at my place friday night (since his car got broken into) and I told him to try out KZ3. he was going through the jungle stage and then following snow stages biting his lip. it was clear that he realized that halo doesnt hold a candle to this game. it didnt take long before he conceded. I asked him what he thought of KZ3 and he told me in these exact words

"this game ****s halo in the eye sockets"

and this is coming from someone who has been with halo since the first game. after experiencing this game, he couldnt deceive himself into thinking that it was anything other than a masterpiece.

the reason why most Xbox/halo fanboys attack KZ3 is because they haven't even played it. when I see this much animosity and prejudice, it becomes increasingly clear that these are not the kinds of people who would fork out 60 dollars to buy this game. They would not actually pay that much for a game that is in a franchise that they apparently despise. If I gave each of these people a PS3 and a copy of the game, I guarantee they would have a change in tune.

arbitor365
And yet, none of this has any actual bearing on either game's quality. It's nice that you like Killzone better. That doesn't mean it is. Frankly, they're not really comparable.
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#111 Raymundo_Manuel
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

As an avid PC gamer Halo is the closest an FPS comes to playable on the consoles for me, so I'm giving it a nod in that regard.

Bungie really knows their stuff.

arbitor365

you really dont play alot of console games then. or games in general

Or rather I do, and that's why I came to the conclusion I did.

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#112 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

Agreed. KZ is great, and so is Halo, but if you think Halo CE is the definitive FPS, you need to play more games...

Urworstnhtmare

For 2001 only Half Life was better :P Seriously that was one amazing game.

He never said for that year alone, so why limit yourself to 2001.

Wolfenstein 3d

Quake

Doom

Duke Nukem 3d

Half Life

Half Life 2

Marathon

CS

Call of Duty MW

Just off the top of my head are better than Halo CE

Cod4? Please thats just insualting lol

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#113 Avian005
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Yeah...no.

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#114 Deathtransit
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I loved CE but I definitely prefer KZ2 & 3 over the later Halos. I actually like KZ3's MP a little better than 2s. These threads just bring out the haters.
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#115 VoodooHak
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well OT, this is apparent to anyone who actually plays it. unfortunately, most people on SW havent actually played through the game (and that probably even includes some of the PS3 fans who defend it).

here is a little anecdote to exemplify this point

I have a friend who is a pretty big halo fan. he is a hardcore gamer and is actually quite a bit older than me. He came over to stay at my place friday night (since his car got broken into) and I told him to try out KZ3. he was going through the jungle stage and then following snow stages biting his lip. it was clear that he realized that halo doesnt hold a candle to this game. it didnt take long before he conceded. I asked him what he thought of KZ3 and he told me in these exact words

"this game ****s halo in the eye sockets"

and this is coming from someone who has been with halo since the first game. after experiencing this game, he couldnt deceive himself into thinking that it was anything other than a masterpiece.

the reason why most Xbox/halo fanboys attack KZ3 is because they haven't even played it. when I see this much animosity and prejudice, it becomes increasingly clear that these are not the kinds of people who would fork out 60 dollars to buy this game. They would not actually pay that much for a game that is in a franchise that they apparently despise. If I gave each of these people a PS3 and a copy of the game, I guarantee they would have a change in tune.

arbitor365

Interesting. Because I HAVE played both and I still seem to like Halo more. Visuals are probably the only thing that KZ has over Halo, especialy the lifelike animation.

There just seems to be something a little soulless to the KZ3 campaign. I didn't understand it when people said they tried to be CoD, but now I know where they're coming from.

The game is so pretty, yet, they move the player along much too quickly from one battle to the next, there's really very little opportunity to take in all the detail GG put into it.

And the story. On paper, it seems fine, but in implementation, it comes off as disjointed. The major plot points are told with these dramatic cutscenes of the Helghast high command that really have little direct correlation with Sev. Perhaps on a big scale and in terms of chronology, but there's a noticeable, narrative disconnect between the two. It pulls me out of the moment.

Otherwise, not a bad game at all, but it's like GG didn't know who what direction to take with the game. Make a story-based game. Or CoD type pacing. They tried to do both, but it the end product didn't seem to resonate with critics, myself included.

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#116 Doolz2024
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Sorry, it really isn't. The entire Killzone series fails in comparison to Halo. Deal with it.
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#117 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] I actually predicted people would hide behind them earlier in the thread lol. Personally I don't hate it, but I do find it sort of amusing that it's all they have to use as a shield without even playing the games, also falling behind players online is a common one.spookykid143

And? I'm confused you act as though you've proven this thing yet haven't proved any one wrong. Scores, Users online, sales all of these side with the Halo series...the killzone series? not so much. You brought no single thing to bare to show how Halo as a series is inferior to Killzone 3 by the TC's opinion.

What do users online or sales have to do with quality?

then we fall back to 9.5>8.5 don't we? But how about this users online means people love the game...therefor they think its quality therefor the majority think its quality...that means it quality? People enmasse bought the game cause they loved the past games, because they loved the past games they purchased the games...thus meaning they are quality right?
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#118 Sin_Cara
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Though I converted from X360 to PS3 a long time ago, I will forever argue that Halo is the superior franchise. It conquers Killzone in nearly every category.
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#119 CTR360
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for graphics and A.I. yes for story halo win
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#120 sonny2dap
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I'm not even going to present a thought out argument because there's no point I'll leave it at this, TC no.
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#122 heretrix
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I've been very critical of Killzone 2, but Killzone 3 is VERY good.They fixed all of the issues I had with KZ2. My only issue is lack of online coop. Other than that, I like what I've played of it quite a bit.

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#123 adamlovesu
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well lets see here hm.... the graphics are better......... yup.

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#124 SHR3DD3D
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I'm not even going to present a thought out argument because there's no point I'll leave it at this, TC no.sonny2dap

There is a simple reason the Halo trilogy has outscored the Killzone trilogy...

KZ simply isn't good enough.

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#125 Lto_thaG
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I've only played Halo 3,ODST and Reach and KZ3 is better than Halo 3 and ODST.

It doesn't beat Reach though.

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#126 heretrix
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I've only played Halo 3,ODST and Reach and KZ3 is better than Halo 3 and ODST.

It doesn't beat Reach though.

Lto_thaG

I'd struggle to say it was better than Halo 3, because of the lack of online coop. H3 had a great online coop campaign.

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#127 LastRambo341
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Higher score =/= better game
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#128 Mozelleple112
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No TC, no Killzone game is better than Halo 1-3 + Reach/ODST. (Pretty much every KZ beats Wars xD)

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#129 bryn8150
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DREAMS...because reality is just too depressing to dea; with.

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#130 johny300
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9.5 > 8.5,reviews speak louder than words sorry it ain't better.Tessellation
And reviews are not FACT it's an opinion.
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#131 johny300
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Anyways i disagree i love both KZ and Halo.
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#132 SHR3DD3D
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Higher score =/= better gameLastRambo341

However, when pretty much all the critics agree that Halo is superior to Killzone, you really start to think about it.

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#133 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Higher score =/= better gameSHR3DD3D

However, when pretty much all the critics agree that Halo is superior to Killzone, you really start to think about it.

Show me ALL of these critics which SPECIFICALLY say that Halo is better.
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#134 onewiththegame
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I love Killzone mp but overall Reach is the better game

and like many have said 9.5>8.5 in SW thats fact

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#135 cloudff7tm
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Graphics and feel of guns are better. I like in KZ how it actually feels like a warzone. I still have more fun with Halo though.

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#136 incuensuocha
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TC, I completely agree with you. On SW though you're going to have people trying to convince you that your opinion is wrong. The sad thing is that there are a lot of fanboys who have never even tried whichever game they are criticizing, but have to rail against it anyway because of the console it's on. Saying Halo is better than Killzone is an opinion, just as the reverse is. The GS reviewer said the KZ3 story was "awful." After finishing the game, I have to disagree with that. It's not great, but it's by no means awful. Yet SW fanboy's are going to try to say that I'm wrong and the reviewer is right, what with his background and degree in literature and all.
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#137 heretrix
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TC, I completely agree with you. On SW though you're going to have people trying to convince you that your opinion is wrong. The sad thing is that there are a lot of fanboys who have never even tried whichever game they are criticizing, but have to rail against it anyway because of the console it's on. Saying Halo is better than Killzone is an opinion, just as the reverse is. The GS reviewer said the KZ3 story was "awful." After finishing the game, I have to disagree with that. It's not great, but it's by no means awful. Yet SW fanboy's are going to try to say that I'm wrong and the reviewer is right, what with his background and degree in literature and all. incuensuocha
So basically if anybody doesn't agree with your opinion they are a fanboy..

Gotta love the circle logic: Reviews are opinions, yet anyone that doesn't agree with my opinion is a fanboy.

That's awesome.

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#138 heretrix
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No TC, no Killzone game is better than Halo 1-3 + Reach/ODST. (Pretty much every KZ beats Wars xD)

Mozelleple112

It's funny how you brag about GSs MGS4 score and yet no KZ game has ever outscored a core Halo game.

You're right. Success does breed jealousy.

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#139 Malta_1980
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i dont think KZ3 is better than Halo games or vice versa.. it depends on personal taste.. to take the latest titles in both series of games i think Reach and KZ3 are both great shooters..

Personally i prefare the Killzone universe and its games but i surely had a great time playing Halo3 & Reach...

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#140 heretrix
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i dont think KZ3 is better than Halo games or vice versa.. it depends on personal taste.. to take the latest titles in both series of games i think Reach and KZ3 are both great shooters..

Personally i prefare the Killzone universe and its games but i surely had a great time playing Halo3 & Reach...

Malta_1980

That's exactly how I feel. I didn't like the first 2 Killzone games but the 3rd is pretty damn good. I'm not a Halo fan at all, but I love a good coop campaign, Halo 3 and Reach's coop are pretty hard to beat. I don't know why people don't just look at how they do it and go from there. Mostly, online coop campaigns in shooters this gen have been terrible for the most part.

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#141 incuensuocha
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[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]TC, I completely agree with you. On SW though you're going to have people trying to convince you that your opinion is wrong. The sad thing is that there are a lot of fanboys who have never even tried whichever game they are criticizing, but have to rail against it anyway because of the console it's on. Saying Halo is better than Killzone is an opinion, just as the reverse is. The GS reviewer said the KZ3 story was "awful." After finishing the game, I have to disagree with that. It's not great, but it's by no means awful. Yet SW fanboy's are going to try to say that I'm wrong and the reviewer is right, what with his background and degree in literature and all. heretrix

So basically if anybody doesn't agree with your opinion they are a fanboy..

Gotta love the circle logic: Reviews are opinions, yet anyone that doesn't agree with my opinion is a fanboy.

That's awesome.

Nice try, I never said that. My point was that it is nobody's business to tell someone that their opinion is wrong. Even moreso when they haven't played it. If you prefer Reach over Killzone 3 after playing both games, I respect your opinion. And for those that haven't played K3 to say that it's FACTUAL that it has a bad story because a game reviewer didn't like it is just as pathetic.
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#142 meetroid8
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If you enjoy KillZone more than Halo, then thats great, everyone enjoys different things, but there is no objective way to prove that KillZone is better than Halo, or vice versa.
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#143 Ultra_Combo
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Hey guys despite, sales, scores, online community KZ is better LMAO you can say YOU think KZ is better and thats fine but by all measurable FACT Halo is better just deal withn it you cows and your constant crying everyday about KZ is getting really old.

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#144 TehOverkill
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Blurzone may have better graphics, but with that comes one **** single-player campaign and a boring multiplayer.

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#145 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]TC, I completely agree with you. On SW though you're going to have people trying to convince you that your opinion is wrong. The sad thing is that there are a lot of fanboys who have never even tried whichever game they are criticizing, but have to rail against it anyway because of the console it's on. Saying Halo is better than Killzone is an opinion, just as the reverse is. The GS reviewer said the KZ3 story was "awful." After finishing the game, I have to disagree with that. It's not great, but it's by no means awful. Yet SW fanboy's are going to try to say that I'm wrong and the reviewer is right, what with his background and degree in literature and all. incuensuocha

So basically if anybody doesn't agree with your opinion they are a fanboy..

Gotta love the circle logic: Reviews are opinions, yet anyone that doesn't agree with my opinion is a fanboy.

That's awesome.

Nice try, I never said that. My point was that it is nobody's business to tell someone that their opinion is wrong. Even moreso when they haven't played it. If you prefer Reach over Killzone 3 after playing both games, I respect your opinion.

Well if that's your point, you'd sell it a hell of a lot better if you didn't resort to calling people fanboys because they don't agree with you.

While it's true that I prefer the Halo series over Killzone, it isn't really a big thing. I enjoy a good online coop campaign and Halo 3 and Reach happens to have excellent online 4 player coop. Killzone does not. It's that simple. It isn't really a matter of taste, it's functionality.

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#146 jettpack
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why are you arguing about those FPSes. Half life and stalker and battlefield and bioshock are all better than both!

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#147 jimmypsn
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Hey guys despite, sales, scores, online community KZ is better LMAO you can say YOU think KZ is better and thats fine but by all measurable FACT Halo is better just deal withn it you cows and your constant crying everyday about KZ is getting really old.

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#148 savagetwinkie
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killzone 3 is a meh game, the only thing that really puts it above is all the post processing effects that make it look relatively better then most games, it plays just like ass, the SP is pretty lackluster i hear and... is there anything i should care about?

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#149 HoolaHoopMan
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No, I'm not the biggest fan of the Halo franchise but it's still far better than Killzone.
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#150 SHR3DD3D
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[QUOTE="SHR3DD3D"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Higher score =/= better gameLastRambo341

However, when pretty much all the critics agree that Halo is superior to Killzone, you really start to think about it.

Show me ALL of these critics which SPECIFICALLY say that Halo is better.

The only critics I could think, that would score KZ higher, are those with names such as "PS3 Magazine", "PlayStation Lifestyle" etc...

The rest are unbiased, and know which game should get a higher score for its excellence.