Killzone 3 will be Playstation's "Halo"

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

I just want this game already. I dont care about it being compared to Halo. I know KZ 3 will be good and I will have fun with it. So thats all that matters to me.

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

AdobeArtist

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

AdobeArtist

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

FragTycoon

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

Anjunaddict

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

Yeah, like Halo is completely original.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

Orchid87

Yeah, like Halo is completely original.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

Anjunaddict

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

Lets start from the beginning so we are on the same page... have you played Killzone 1 and 2?

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

FragTycoon

Lets start from the beginning so we are on the same page... have you played Killzone 1 and 2?

1? lol no. I do own 2 though.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Yeah because Killzone is totally not copycat and completely original. Anjunaddict

Lets start from the beginning so we are on the same page... have you played Killzone 1 and 2?

1? lol no. I do own 2 though.

Well your missing a pretty big part of what I'm talking about but nevermind that. What game do think Killzone '2' is like then?

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Lets start from the beginning so we are on the same page... have you played Killzone 1 and 2?

FragTycoon

1? lol no. I do own 2 though.

Well your missing a pretty big part of what I'm talking about but nevermind that. What game do think Killzone '2' is like then?

Pretty much any other FPS? I mean what exactly is it that sets it apart from all other FPS games? Obviously its got its own story (like every FPS), and top notch visuals and animation. Oh and the weighty controls (which you can look at as a plus or minus) but other than presentation, its nothing really out of the ordinary.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

FragTycoon

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

Pretty much any other FPS? I mean what exactly is it that sets it apart from all other FPS games? Obviously its got its own story (like every FPS), and top notch visuals and animation. Oh and the weighty controls (which you can look at as a plus or minus) but other than presentation, its nothing really out of the ordinary.

Anjunaddict

I myself love the gunplay, the AI and the art sty1e in KZ2. Other games may have one of these but no game has all three.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

Pretty much any other FPS? I mean what exactly is it that sets it apart from all other FPS games? Obviously its got its own story (like every FPS), and top notch visuals and animation. Oh and the weighty controls (which you can look at as a plus or minus) but other than presentation, its nothing really out of the ordinary.

Orchid87

I myself love the gunplay, the AI and the art sty1e in KZ2. Other games may have one of these but no game has all three.

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

Pretty much any other FPS? I mean what exactly is it that sets it apart from all other FPS games? Obviously its got its own story (like every FPS), and top notch visuals and animation. Oh and the weighty controls (which you can look at as a plus or minus) but other than presentation, its nothing really out of the ordinary.

Anjunaddict

I myself love the gunplay, the AI and the art sty1e in KZ2. Other games may have one of these but no game has all three.

But KZ2 excels at the former two while the latter is the matter of taste.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

FragTycoon

Lets start from the beginning so we are on the same page... have you played Killzone 1 and 2?

Exactly why would he want to play a 6.9 game that failed in a pretty miserable manner?

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="Orchid87"]

I myself love the gunplay, the AI and the art sty1e in KZ2. Other games may have one of these but no game has all three.

Orchid87

But KZ2 excels at the former two while the latter is the matter of taste.

That may be but it doesn't make the game original.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

FragTycoon

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

Dude, don't you think that Sony want to see Killzone receive the same acclaim and sales as Halo?

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Every FPS is going to have gunplay, AI and an art stylel :? or else it would be broken.Anjunaddict

But KZ2 excels at the former two while the latter is the matter of taste.

That may be but it doesn't make the game original.

No FPS is original.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

But KZ2 excels at the former two while the latter is the matter of taste.

Orchid87

That may be but it doesn't make the game original.

No FPS is original.

Yup. Probably.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

But KZ2 excels at the former two while the latter is the matter of taste.

Orchid87

That may be but it doesn't make the game original.

No FPS is original.

The Halo series is unique.

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

1? lol no. I do own 2 though.

Anjunaddict

Well your missing a pretty big part of what I'm talking about but never mind that. What game do think Killzone '2' is like then?

Pretty much any other FPS? I mean what exactly is it that sets it apart from all other FPS games? Obviously its got its own story (like every FPS), and top notch visuals and animation. Oh and the weighty controls (which you can look at as a plus or minus) but other than presentation, its nothing really out of the ordinary.

See now your deflecting.. but hay.. I'll answer your question. It was designed and noted by developers to have a gritty and trench war fair feel. A game style familiar to some WWII games but rarely done with modern weapons (guns and vehicles).

Weighty controls are a sure fire way to emphasise tactics over "twitch reactions" so common place in FPS today. You move into a room not checking a corner and your almost sure to be dead (under normal control settings).

Now take your last comment, it IS out of the ordinary and that's why the game has a love/hate feel for allot of players. Some guy who plays CoD, TF, Unreal, Quakeor Halo will pick up this game and go "this is not the same", and it was always meant to be that way... and that's my point.

So, please, with out deflecting, name one other FPS out there that's like Killzone other then the fact that you are playing in first person and shooting a weapon.

Note: like the other person said, yes, I do believe Halo is a rip of Tribes and slowly and surly going to "evolve" to be just like it.

The Halo series is unique.

TheMaryCeleste

What is unique about it?

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

That may be but it doesn't make the game original.

TheMaryCeleste

No FPS is original.

The Halo series is unique.

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

The Halo series is unique.

Orchid87

What is unique about it?

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

The Halo series is unique.

Orchid87

What is unique about it?

Pretty much everything? It's gaming's Star Wars.

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

The Halo series is unique.

Gamtrix

What is unique about it?

The Halo series contains among the most successful and critically acclaimed FPS games of all time. Generic shooters are those that try to kill it, such as the atrocious Killzone, Haze and Resistance.

Pretty much everything? It's gaming's Star Wars.

TheMaryCeleste

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

Pretty much everything? It's gaming's Star Wars.

Orchid87

Man, I hate that picture...

Have you got anything more suitable?

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

The Halo series is unique.

TheMaryCeleste

What is unique about it?

Pretty much everything? It's gaming's Star Wars.

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

What is unique about it?

TintedEyes

Pretty much everything? It's gaming's Star Wars.

In the gaming world, it is.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Well your missing a pretty big part of what I'm talking about but never mind that. What game do think Killzone '2' is like then?

FragTycoon

Pretty much any other FPS? I mean what exactly is it that sets it apart from all other FPS games? Obviously its got its own story (like every FPS), and top notch visuals and animation. Oh and the weighty controls (which you can look at as a plus or minus) but other than presentation, its nothing really out of the ordinary.

See now your deflecting.. but hay.. I'll answer your question. It was designed and noted by developers to have a gritty and trench war fair feel. A game style familiar to some WWII games but rarely done with modern weapons (guns and vehicles).

Weighty controls are a sure fire way to emphasise tactics over "twitch reactions" so common place in FPS today. You move into a room not checking a corner and your almost sure to be dead (under normal control settings).

Now take your last comment, it IS out of the ordinary and that's why the game has a love/hate feel for allot of players. Some guy who plays CoD, TF, Unreal, Quakeor Halo will pick up this game and go "this is not the same", and it was always meant to be that way... and that's my point.

So, please, with out deflecting, name one other FPS out there that's like Killzone other then the fact that you are playing in first person and shooting a weapon.

Note: like the other person said, yes, I do believe Halo is a rip of Tribes and slowly and surly going to "evolve" to be just like it.

So .... its a gritty war game, with modern weapons and vehicles. Right, that hasn't been done before.

Basically you're saying the weighty controls is the thing that makes this game different? I could just turn the sensitivity down in the options and play any other FPS in a similar fashion. Every FPS is going to feel 'different' to play. Halo 3 feels a lot different to Halo CE. Its still got your typical story, your typical level structure, your typlcal pacing, your typical objectives.

Me personally, I don't hate Killzone at all, i actually like it a lot. But its not original. People hate it because they wouldn't describe the controls as weighty, but as sluggish. Probably the reasoning behind guerilla making Killzone 3 feel more similar to games such as modern warfare.

People are talking about originality in these shooters?:lol:

Pretty sure that's why you don't play them for...

Or else they wouldn't sell.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

FragTycoon

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

Man, I hate that picture...

TheMaryCeleste

It sums up my thoughts about your posts.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

Pretty much everything? It's gaming's Star Wars.

TheMaryCeleste

In the gaming world, it is.

halo is the god father of fps.GrabTheYayo

That's sig-worthy :roll:

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

If Halo is so "overrated and generic", then why is Sony even trying to have their own "Halo"? ;)

GrabTheYayo

Because it's fanboys saying it.. not Sony.

Killzone has never tried to have the same style or feel of Halo, that's why I like it over all the other copycat FPS (witch include Halo itself)

I would suspect that your ring of friends might not have experienced FPS before Halo.

It's ok, I know it's hard for some to admit they don't have as much experience in a hobby as others.

I can show you my copy of Tribes 1 and 2 along with my copies of Halo "Playa".. and I never said I hated Halo... but if that's what you get out of it.. that's cool, I know SW is serious business :P

KZ3 will no doubt be a well-polished game (which I'm definitely gonna play the **** out of). However, it has a LONG way to go before it's iconic in the same sense Halo is.

Halo can get away with boxart that is nothing more than a number and still outsell almost every game in modern history. I mean this in the most unbiased way possible; KZ3, while a great game, is not and will not be the Playstation's "Halo". Keep in mind; even non-gamers recognize Master Chief's face. Hell, even the music from Halo is iconic. The series has spinoffs, a soda made after it, toys, books, clothing, even a manga/anime series.

Just putting things in perspective for you.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]halo is the god father of fps.Orchid87

That's sig-worthy :roll:

KZ3 will no doubt be a well-polished game (which I'm definitely gonna play the **** out of). However, it has a LONG way to go before it's iconic in the same sense Halo is.

Halo can get away with boxart that is nothing more than a number and still outsell almost every game in modern history. I mean this in the most unbiased way possible; KZ3, while a great game, is not and will not be the Playstation's "Halo". Keep in mind; even non-gamers recognize Master Chief's face. Hell, even the music from Halo is iconic. The series has spinoffs, a soda made after it, toys, books, clothing, even a manga/anime series.

Just putting things in perspective for you.

_Impmacaque_

At best Killzone is SEGA's Alex Kidd to Nintendo's Super Mario

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

The Halo series is unique.

TheMaryCeleste

What is unique about it?

Pretty much everything? It's gaming's Star Wars.

Thats Mass Effect. But i agree Halo is unique ;)

I have no doubts KZ3 will be the better game. But, KZ will never be as popular as Halo because the xbox brand was built on Halo, hence a good portion of the Xbox userbase will buy and play Halo.

Sony never used one franchise to build it's brand, they used diversity, so nothing will be as popular. Maybe GT, but that's really kind of different.

It's closer to COD4's level than halo. The only thing new I heard was operation modes. They better have some good objective modes like CS's/COD's Search and Destroy and some MW2's Demolition. It'd be interesting to see a squad mode something like Last Squad Standing; in which each squad share a single set of lives but I doubt GG is smart enough to implement such gametype or FUN gametypes.

Im actually more excited for Killzone 3 Then Halo:Reach. But Halo:Reach will be good aswell.

[QUOTE="TheMaryCeleste"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] so its not unique thenRatchet_Fan8

In the gaming world, it is.

A Hollywood producer claimed that, not me. But it's pretty much true.

[QUOTE="GrabTheYayo"]halo is the god father of fps.Orchid87

That's sig-worthy :roll:

On consoles.