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Am i the only person who can see right through this thing? After watching videos about it for Dance Central, Kinectimals, Milo, and more I think people are fools for believing that it actually works like they say it works. most videos have been proven fake too from e3.

Dance Central: umm, so you dance to what you see on the TV... okay, you can do the same by watchin richard simmons or something. the kinect camera does show your whole body in the corner, but its laggy and verry small in the corner so you don't pay attention to it as if they don't wanna show you how bad u look while dancing lol.

Kinectimals: Skittles, please stop it tickles!!... i wonder what happens if u kick the cat in the head lol, probably nothing since its not programmed like they say it is... you're probably limited to doing few things, just like most kinect games...

Milo: Okay, if u watch the video with that ted guy, he lies soooo much!!! for example, he says something like "when you play milo, you're actually sculpting a human being". umm 1.) its not a human being. and 2.) no, you're not. Its almost like an interactive movie of a boy's boring life. should you squish the snail or not... hmm, you pick a path for milo and the story changes through predetermined outcomes. also, did u see how laggy it was throwing stones? you have no sence of power or aim when throwing them, its worse than the wii when u can just flick your wrist to golf and stuff...

ugh, i can go on... kinect is not what they say it is...

PS Move>Wii mote>Kinect imo

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#2 Gamtrix
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It's pretty much a huge scam. People talk about Sony using CG KZ vids, at least KZ ended up looking that good. MS is doing the same with Kinect but isn't delivering at all. And yet they don't get called out for it. I bet a bunch of MS fans will still defend them though.

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#3 HelloMoto56
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i really don't understand why anyone would buy Kinect from a gaming perspective.

it has no games anyone with any prior gaming knowledge would want to play.

so why purchase it?

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#4 Nerd_Man
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While the technology can and will work, most of the games will be smoke an mirror tricks and won't give players as much freedom to interact with the games as Microsoft originally promised.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObRjm5YLfx8&feature=player_embedded#!

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#6 loadedboon
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It's pretty much a huge scam. People talk about Sony using CG KZ vids, at least KZ ended up looking that good. MS is doing the same with Kinect but isn't delivering at all. And yet they don't get called out for it. I bet a bunch of MS fans will still defend them though.

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#8 Merex760
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Kinect is for people who don't play games or are Microsoft fanboys. It's a huge scam, and I will not waste $150 on it.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObRjm5YLfx8&feature=player_embedded#!

i_am_interested

Looks a little laggy.

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#10 kipohippo021
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Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?
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#11 TheMightyHoov
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I really dont care what other people do with their money and what they choose to believe. When they buy it they will see if it live to the hype or not.

Its not like Im buying it anyway.

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#12 hexashadow13
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Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?kipohippo021
I've tried it. It seems only usable in party games or bad games, and tbh playing it in public felt sort of awkward. :S
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Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?kipohippo021

These forums are about bashing,everything...

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?hexashadow13
I've tried it. It seems only usable in party games or bad games, and tbh playing it in public felt sort of awkward. :S

Sounds like the Wii :lol:

jk :P

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?TheMightyHoov

I've tried it. It seems only usable in party games or bad games, and tbh playing it in public felt sort of awkward. :S

Sounds like the Wii :lol:

jk :P

Whole other level of it. Kinect made me see the Wii as a reasonable console. I'm not kidding.
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Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?kipohippo021
Because it's clearly a cheap marketing/business motivated attempt to capitalize on people who don't play games and don't know any better. At least Sony is putting forward some effort to get core gamers on board with Move. With Kinect, there is zero attempt by Microsoft to capture such audience.

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#17 deangallop
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I used to argue against the whole "it's an expensive eyetoy" criticism, but the current software lineup makes the naysayers pretty much correct.


I'm surprised that some people on this forum are excited for it, it looks like grade A garbage.

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I dont' think Kinect exactly has a positive following here. Most people know it won't be good.

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project natal is evil, Evil i tell you!
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#20 JohnF111
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Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?kipohippo021
Imagine this, you play Forza4(or whatever racing game) and you try to drive the Nurburgring... that takes about 9 minutes on average to do so you try holding your arms up for 9 minutes on the trot while concentrating on not scratching your ear and putting yourself in a tyre wall...
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[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] I've tried it. It seems only usable in party games or bad games, and tbh playing it in public felt sort of awkward. :Shexashadow13

Sounds like the Wii :lol:

jk :P

Whole other level of it. Kinect made me see the Wii as a reasonable console. I'm not kidding.

I wouldnt know I havent played it, but regardless I dont expect it to be good.

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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?Merex760

Because it's clearly a cheap marketing/business motivated attempt to capitalize on people who don't play games and don't know any better. At least Sony is putting forward some effort to get core gamers on board with Move. With Kinect, there is zero attempt by Microsoft to capture such audience.

Its funny, not long ago people saw Kinect as the next savour and Move as a big fail... oh how the tables have turned!
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#23 kipohippo021
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project natal is evil, Evil i tell you!ferret-gamer
What about kinect?
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Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?kipohippo021

I really dont care what other people do with their money and what they choose to believe. When they buy it they will see if it live to the hype or not.

Its not like Im buying it anyway.

TheMightyHoov
The problem is that MS is continuing to use smoke and mirrors to fool people into thinking it's better than what it really is. They wouldn't use pre-recorded demos a few months before it's launch if it really worked as promised. Also, Move doesn't need to prove itself because - let's face it - it's a slightly improved Wii-mote with Motion Plus. Kinect is limited by nature, simply because it lacks controllers to do things like moving around in a regular game. Games will be on-rails if they only use Kinect, and if they use both a controller and Kinect, you might as well not buy it in the first place; there's not much point in using Kinect to throw grenades when you can simply press a button on your controller to do it faster.
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[QUOTE="Merex760"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?JohnF111

Because it's clearly a cheap marketing/business motivated attempt to capitalize on people who don't play games and don't know any better. At least Sony is putting forward some effort to get core gamers on board with Move. With Kinect, there is zero attempt by Microsoft to capture such audience.

Its funny, not long ago people saw Kinect as the next savour and Move as a big fail... oh how the tables have turned!

yeah, people though kinect would be soo innovative (and it is, if it actually works) and they say move is just a copy of the wii mote... but the move uses the eyetoy to record the movement from the wand thing... it actually does work.. the wii mote just has sensors in it right? im not sure how it works exactly but i do know the move is more innovative than the wii mote...
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I don't plan on buying it.
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[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?RogueShodown

I really dont care what other people do with their money and what they choose to believe. When they buy it they will see if it live to the hype or not.

Its not like Im buying it anyway.

TheMightyHoov

The problem is that MS is continuing to use smoke and mirrors to fool people into thinking it's better than what it really is. They wouldn't use pre-recorded demos a few months before it's launch if it really worked as promised. Also, Move doesn't need to prove itself because - let's face it - it's a slightly improved Wii-mote with Motion Plus. Kinect is limited by nature, simply because it lacks controllers to do things like moving around in a regular game. Games will be on-rails if they only use Kinect, and if they use both a controller and Kinect, you might as well not buy it in the first place; there's not much point in using Kinect to throw grenades when you can simply press a button on your controller to do it faster.

They are a business. I know kinect wont be that great, but its not my loss because I have no intention to buy it.

And Move does seem to be essentially a wiimote

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[QUOTE="Merex760"]

[QUOTE="kipohippo021"]Why is everyone bashing kinect? Its not even out yet and still people bash it. Im not a MS fan, i own every system but a ps3. But i think people need to give it a chance. Sure, dont get it at release. But its bound to get more games, good games. Give it some time and it could turn out great. But if you havent tried it, which im sure most of you havent. Then your opinion dosent really have much weight to it. Most people who have tried it have loved it. So why not give it a chance?JohnF111

Because it's clearly a cheap marketing/business motivated attempt to capitalize on people who don't play games and don't know any better. At least Sony is putting forward some effort to get core gamers on board with Move. With Kinect, there is zero attempt by Microsoft to capture such audience.

Its funny, not long ago people saw Kinect as the next savour and Move as a big fail... oh how the tables have turned!

Yeah, and then the software lineups were announced.
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#29 _SWAG_
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i agree 100% i believe when you bring the kinect home youre not gonna see what you saw on these videos. its gonna be like false advertisement imho

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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

It's pretty much a huge scam. People talk about Sony using CG KZ vids, at least KZ ended up looking that good. MS is doing the same with Kinect but isn't delivering at all. And yet they don't get called out for it. I bet a bunch of MS fans will still defend them though.

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#31 Shoaka
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I really dont care what other people do with their money and what they choose to believe. When they buy it they will see if it live to the hype or not.

Its not like Im buying it anyway.

TheMightyHoov

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#32 dstv
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well i never really bought the whole "use your body as the controller thing"....am i the only one who likes to have a physical controller to perform the EXATCT and ACCURATE functions....though millions of people will line up on day 1 to buy kinect....only to get home and realise that it wasnt worth the time or money

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#33 loadedboon
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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

It's pretty much a huge scam. People talk about Sony using CG KZ vids, at least KZ ended up looking that good. MS is doing the same with Kinect but isn't delivering at all. And yet they don't get called out for it. I bet a bunch of MS fans will still defend them though.

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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] [QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

I really dont care what other people do with their money and what they choose to believe. When they buy it they will see if it live to the hype or not.

Its not like Im buying it anyway.

TheMightyHoov

The problem is that MS is continuing to use smoke and mirrors to fool people into thinking it's better than what it really is. They wouldn't use pre-recorded demos a few months before it's launch if it really worked as promised. Also, Move doesn't need to prove itself because - let's face it - it's a slightly improved Wii-mote with Motion Plus. Kinect is limited by nature, simply because it lacks controllers to do things like moving around in a regular game. Games will be on-rails if they only use Kinect, and if they use both a controller and Kinect, you might as well not buy it in the first place; there's not much point in using Kinect to throw grenades when you can simply press a button on your controller to do it faster.

They are a business. I know kinect wont be that great, but its not my loss because I have no intention to buy it.

And Move does seem to be essentially a wiimote

My point was that it won't be as good as many people think it will be. They'll realize they've been fooled when they can't play Dance Central with 3 people being tracked, for example.
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i havent been fooled. all the cool gameplay videos we saw at e3 09 were fake :lol:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObRjm5YLfx8&feature=player_embedded#!

i_am_interested
the game plays it self
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[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObRjm5YLfx8&feature=player_embedded#!

gameofthering

Looks a little laggy.

Besides lag that doesn't even look like your playing a game. Looks more like your practicing pointing out the exits on an airplane. I can't imagine how anyone could see that and be excited for that thing.

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#38 bigboss5ak
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People bash kinect because they know it will sell point blank and they don't want to see that.
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It's pretty much a huge scam. People talk about Sony using CG KZ vids, at least KZ ended up looking that good. MS is doing the same with Kinect but isn't delivering at all. And yet they don't get called out for it. I bet a bunch of MS fans will still defend them though.

Gamtrix

and that wii rip off sony is masqurading around like it was there invention isn't?

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#40 Sh4nk3r
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Well I have a Wii too so idc :lol:

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#41 KungfuKitten
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Kinect hurts.
I don't know whether they were forced to (patent-wise or so), but sony and microsoft are trying something a little bit different from a wiimote. And they're having a lot of difficulties doing so. The sonyballs seem to work at least. Kinect is just painful to see. I want to give them a chance. I mean, the thing isn't even out yet and a lot of it is software based. But jees all the stories and movies aren't exactly helping... Neither is the price tag, and the line up.

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#42 coltsfan4ever
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Careful now. You dont want to upset the fanboys who are going crazy over Kinect. But I kinda agree TC. I used to have high hopes for Kinect but the more bad previews I see and videos i watch Im starting to feel the thing will bomb. MS is really hoping it catches on but I really dont see it happening. I feel it would have been better if it was released next gen with a new Xbox. The tech looks cool but seems real unrefined at this point.

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#43 zarshack
Member since 2009 • 9936 Posts

I think the majority of people on system wars will not be buying kinect.

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#44 GreenGoblin2099
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObRjm5YLfx8&feature=player_embedded#!

i_am_interested

The future of gaming right there, fellas!!!

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#45 dercoo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObRjm5YLfx8&feature=player_embedded#!

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Sorcery beats the ***** out of this game.

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#47 nexus303
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i really don't understand why anyone would buy Kinect from a gaming perspective.

it has no games anyone with any prior gaming knowledge would want to play.

so why purchase it?

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So why did people buy a ps3? Maybe because they believed the games would follow given time...
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#48 erglesmergle
Member since 2009 • 1769 Posts

Why did you bring up Kinect? SW forgot about that trash. I havent seen it mentioned in ages.

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#49 FIipMode
Member since 2009 • 10850 Posts

No one on here is fooled, as a matter of fact has any of the stuff in the E309 video been actually shown working as how it was portrayed in that promo?

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#50 JStroud88
Member since 2009 • 626 Posts

Am i the only person who can see right through this thing? After watching videos about it for Dance Central, Kinectimals, Milo, and more I think people are fools for believing that it actually works like they say it works. most videos have been proven fake too from e3.

Dance Central: umm, so you dance to what you see on the TV... okay, you can do the same by watchin richard simmons or something. the kinect camera does show your whole body in the corner, but its laggy and verry small in the corner so you don't pay attention to it as if they don't wanna show you how bad u look while dancing lol.

Kinectimals: Skittles, please stop it tickles!!... i wonder what happens if u kick the cat in the head lol, probably nothing since its not programmed like they say it is... you're probably limited to doing few things, just like most kinect games...

Milo: Okay, if u watch the video with that ted guy, he lies soooo much!!! for example, he says something like "when you play milo, you're actually sculpting a human being". umm 1.) its not a human being. and 2.) no, you're not. Its almost like an interactive movie of a boy's boring life. should you squish the snail or not... hmm, you pick a path for milo and the story changes through predetermined outcomes. also, did u see how laggy it was throwing stones? you have no sence of power or aim when throwing them, its worse than the wii when u can just flick your wrist to golf and stuff...

ugh, i can go on... kinect is not what they say it is...

PS Move>Wii mote>Kinect imo

babybinky

To be honest, you should play it before you judge.

As far as Dance Central everything I've read on it says it works GREAT for that particular game. 1:1 movement. The Kinect games I played at the Microsoft store also worked great and as far as "no sense of power" that is not true, with the bowling game the harder you bowl the faster the ball goes.

But, I guess I've been fooled. Picking it up at launch.