Kingdom Hearts gets way too much hate here

The spin-offs are unnecessary, and there are far too many of them.

They are still spin offs of the main series, not saying they are bad games though. Also everything gets way too much hate on here nearly.soulitane

[QUOTE="soulitane"]They are still spin offs of the main series, not saying they are bad games though. Also everything gets way too much hate on here nearly.Capitan_Kid

The spin-offs are unnecessary, and there are far too many of them.

DarkLink77

Kingdom Hearts is a bad, boring, pretentious, cliche series. Basically everything that is wrong in gaming today.

TC, many good things get way too much hate on this board. 'Tis the nature of the beast.

I personally haven't played any Kingdom Hearts games, so I can't judge.

[QUOTE="soulitane"]They are still spin offs of the main series, not saying they are bad games though. Also everything gets way too much hate on here nearly.Capitan_Kid

Unnecessary might be a better way to explain the handheld games. They don't have much of a purpose besides the milkage of KH fans.

Kingdom Hearts is a bad, boring, pretentious, cliche series. Basically everything that is wrong in gaming today.

DerpyMcDerp

They should learn a lesson or two from Black Ops yo!!

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="soulitane"]They are still spin offs of the main series, not saying they are bad games though. Also everything gets way too much hate on here nearly.Yangire

Unnecessary might be a better way to explain the handheld games. They don't have much of a purpose besides the milkage of KH fans.

Just about everything Japanese gets hated on here.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Spin off is an incorrect term. A spin off game would be something like KH racing or etc.Capitan_Kid

Unnecessary might be a better way to explain the handheld games. They don't have much of a purpose besides the milkage of KH fans.

Sure, I rather them put all the "effort" that they put in the handheld games in a console one. Anyways they could easily fill up the plot holes and add new gameplay mechanics by just making a third, the handheld games were not needed.

I guarantee that if you name any game- any at all- it will be hated by at least 1 person on this forum. That's the way it is.

Just about everything Japanese gets hated on here.

Bigboi500

Mikami and Platinum get nothing but praise.

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

The same thing advent children and Crisis core did to final fantasy 7.
Square is having a hard time funding the massive amounts of games they make so they makese these endless cookie cutter spin offs and rerereremakes to fund the bigger projects that continually take longer and longer to produce.

Just about everything Japanese gets hated on here.

Bigboi500

Anything that's not a shooter, WRPG, or has a budget lower than a few million gets hated on here.

[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]

Kingdom Hearts is a bad, boring, pretentious, cliche series. Basically everything that is wrong in gaming today.

GreenGoblin2099

They should learn a lesson or two from Black Ops yo!!

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

WilliamRLBaker

Actually CoM showed us what happened to the rest of the Org XIII (it's more like the ones in KH2 are the rest, but you surely get the point)... that's why I like it but other than that I could've lived without it.

The term JRPG comes to mind.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

GreenGoblin2099

Actually CoM showed us what happened to the rest of the Org XIII (it's more like the ones in KH2 are the rest, but you surely get the point)... that's why I like it but other than that I could've lived without it.

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

The same thing advent children and Crisis core did to final fantasy 7.
Square is having a hard time funding the massive amounts of games they make so they makese these endless cookie cutter spin offs and rerereremakes to fund the bigger projects that continually take longer and longer to produce.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Just about everything Japanese gets hated on here.

Yangire

Anything that's not a shooter, WRPG, or has a budget lower than a few million gets hated on here.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

The same thing advent children and Crisis core did to final fantasy 7.
Square is having a hard time funding the massive amounts of games they make so they makese these endless cookie cutter spin offs and rerereremakes to fund the bigger projects that continually take longer and longer to produce.

Capitan_Kid

Never understood why those were Japanese only. Kingdom Hearts sells better overseas than in Japan.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

The same thing advent children and Crisis core did to final fantasy 7.
Square is having a hard time funding the massive amounts of games they make so they makese these endless cookie cutter spin offs and rerereremakes to fund the bigger projects that continually take longer and longer to produce.

DarkLink77

Never understood why those were Japanese only. Kingdom Hearts sells better overseas than in Japan.

The KH games on the handhelds usually end up creating more plotholes and or making the story even more convuleted.

The series itself is a simple and fun RPG, but it really does lose points because of the ridiculous storyline.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] They aren't spin offs. You obviously haven't played the handheld ones. BBS showed us the true villain and characters who helped Sora become who he is. Their actions are what made KH 1 and 2. Days showed us what Roxas, sora's other half, was doing while he was comatose. They answered a lot. Especially the Japanese only final mixes.Capitan_Kid

Never understood why those were Japanese only. Kingdom Hearts sells better overseas than in Japan.

First of all. None of the handhelds are spin offs. They all fill in the many plot holes the kingdom hearts series has. Also, kingdom hearts 3 can't be made until versus 13 is done. Were lucky to even get these handheld games to keep us satisfied unltil kingdom hearts 3 can be made. The only kh game that didn't add much was the new one, coded. Every other game had good gameplay and was received well. Why hate on a series that can't do much until the main team is done with its other project?Capitan_Kid

I do not want to hear any excuses. Kingdom Hearts 1, Kingdom Hearts 2, Kingdom Hearts 3, Kingdom Hearts (insert number here). If anything else is in the title then it is a spin off.

They aren't spin offs. You obviously haven't played the handheld ones. BBS showed us the true villain and characters who helped Sora become who he is. Their actions are what made KH 1 and 2. Days showed us what Roxas, sora's other half, was doing while he was comatose. They answered a lot. Especially the Japanese only final mixes.Capitan_Kid

The entire Kingdom Hearts series if you want to get technical is nothing but a Final Fantasy spin off :|

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]First of all. None of the handhelds are spin offs. They all fill in the many plot holes the kingdom hearts series has. Also, kingdom hearts 3 can't be made until versus 13 is done. Were lucky to even get these handheld games to keep us satisfied unltil kingdom hearts 3 can be made. The only kh game that didn't add much was the new one, coded. Every other game had good gameplay and was received well. Why hate on a series that can't do much until the main team is done with its other project?The__Havoc

I do not want to hear any excuses. Kingdom Hearts 1, Kingdom Hearts 2, Kingdom Hearts 3, Kingdom Hearts (insert number here). If anything else is in the title then it is a spin off.

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

The same thing advent children and Crisis core did to final fantasy 7.
Square is having a hard time funding the massive amounts of games they make so they makese these endless cookie cutter spin offs and rerereremakes to fund the bigger projects that continually take longer and longer to produce.

WilliamRLBaker

Birth by Sleep and Chain of Memories are not useless and aren't really spinoffs either. They added alot to the story and are better then at least KHII.

358/2 Days however was a disappointment and was kinda unnecessary.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]They aren't spin offs. You obviously haven't played the handheld ones. BBS showed us the true villain and characters who helped Sora become who he is. Their actions are what made KH 1 and 2. Days showed us what Roxas, sora's other half, was doing while he was comatose. They answered a lot. Especially the Japanese only final mixes.The__Havoc

The entire Kingdom Hearts series if you want to get technical is nothing but a Final Fantasy spin off :|

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]They aren't spin offs. You obviously haven't played the handheld ones. BBS showed us the true villain and characters who helped Sora become who he is. Their actions are what made KH 1 and 2. Days showed us what Roxas, sora's other half, was doing while he was comatose. They answered a lot. Especially the Japanese only final mixes.The__Havoc

The entire Kingdom Hearts series if you want to get technical is nothing but a Final Fantasy spin off :|

Where did you get that BS?:?

[QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]They aren't spin offs. You obviously haven't played the handheld ones. BBS showed us the true villain and characters who helped Sora become who he is. Their actions are what made KH 1 and 2. Days showed us what Roxas, sora's other half, was doing while he was comatose. They answered a lot. Especially the Japanese only final mixes.Wanderer5

The entire Kingdom Hearts series if you want to get technical is nothing but a Final Fantasy spin off :|

Where did you get that BS?:?

[QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]They aren't spin offs. You obviously haven't played the handheld ones. BBS showed us the true villain and characters who helped Sora become who he is. Their actions are what made KH 1 and 2. Days showed us what Roxas, sora's other half, was doing while he was comatose. They answered a lot. Especially the Japanese only final mixes.Wanderer5

The entire Kingdom Hearts series if you want to get technical is nothing but a Final Fantasy spin off :|

Where did you get that BS?:?

I don't think the recent games are spinoffs.

Cause if they were spinoffs then wouldn't they feature a different character and be unrelated to the plot of Kingdom Hearts in general and actually have no relation to the First 3 games other than the name?

I mean I guess Birth by Sleep can fall in that line but...that game actually shows how the events of the first 3 games happened which makes it cannon which makes it not a spinoff....

358/2 Days shows you a day in a life of the Orginization and could probably have been done without but it shows you what the Orginization was but Not as Relevant as Birth by Sleep tbh.

Re: Coded is litterally right after Kingdom Hearts 2 and it's possible that it has a lot to do with the up comming Game(s).

and Kingdom Hearts 3DS picks up after Kingdom Hearts 2's Ending so it's REALLY Possilbe that this could be the Chain of Memories of KHII and KHIII.

Then square needs to stop making useless endless spinoffs that don't actually help the franchise but hinder it.
358, Birth by sleep, and the one card game added nothing to the series, answered none of the most needful questions what did they do? they actually added more plot holes to the story.

The same thing advent children and Crisis core did to final fantasy 7.
Square is having a hard time funding the massive amounts of games they make so they makese these endless cookie cutter spin offs and rerereremakes to fund the bigger projects that continually take longer and longer to produce.

WilliamRLBaker

I can definitely see why people dislike it.

The 1st one is great imo but the 2nd one's story isreally convolutedand I also think the combats worse. Still a decent game but disappointing.

I'm also not crazy about all the different games on different platforms and tbh I feel like KH2's ending was a decent enough conclusion that anything after it really isn't necessary. So I might skip KH3 altogether

These spin-offs constantly recycle stuff time and time again. As will KH3DS, back to young Sora again in twilight town. How original. KH Birth By Sleep is the only one worthy of being called it's own game. The rest are just cheap cut and paste cash-ins. Nothing else matters until KH3. I'm tired of these bloody Final Mixes to. Seriously, why must the US and EU miss out on that much content? We never truly get the full package out of these games.

These spin-offs constantly recycle stuff time and time again. As will KH3DS, back to young Sora again in twilight town. How original. KH Birth By Sleep is the only one worthy of being called it's own game. The rest are just cheap cut and paste cash-ins. Nothing else matters until KH3. I'm tired of these bloody Final Mixes to. Seriously, why must the US and EU miss out on that much content? We never truly get the full package out of these games.

Crossel777

Twilight Town wasn't shown in KH3D so far.:? And it going to have new worlds and be on par with the main titles.

I agree about the final mixes through, especially since there are many important moments that are in them.People that don't look into these final mixes are missing on these moments.

I only played bbs and thought that it was great. Now I have to play KHi and KHII.

I only played bbs and thought that it was great. Now I have to play KHi and KHII.

HaLoMaStErJT

Kingdom Hearts is a bad, boring, pretentious, cliche series. Basically everything that is wrong in gaming today.

DerpyMcDerp

Completely agree with this, it gets far more unwarranted credit and I've yet to see any unwarranted hate.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

These spin-offs constantly recycle stuff time and time again. As will KH3DS, back to young Sora again in twilight town. How original. KH Birth By Sleep is the only one worthy of being called it's own game. The rest are just cheap cut and paste cash-ins. Nothing else matters until KH3. I'm tired of these bloody Final Mixes to. Seriously, why must the US and EU miss out on that much content? We never truly get the full package out of these games.

Wanderer5

Twilight Town wasn't shown in KH3D so far.:? And it going to have new worlds and be on par with the main titles.

I agree about the final mixes through, especially since there are many important moments that are in them.People that don't look into these final mixes are missing on these moments.

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

These spin-offs constantly recycle stuff time and time again. As will KH3DS, back to young Sora again in twilight town. How original. KH Birth By Sleep is the only one worthy of being called it's own game. The rest are just cheap cut and paste cash-ins. Nothing else matters until KH3. I'm tired of these bloody Final Mixes to. Seriously, why must the US and EU miss out on that much content? We never truly get the full package out of these games.

Crossel777

Twilight Town wasn't shown in KH3D so far.:? And it going to have new worlds and be on par with the main titles.

I agree about the final mixes through, especially since there are many important moments that are in them.People that don't look into these final mixes are missing on these moments.

The only worlds that are shown so far are Traverse Town, Destiny Islands, and Notre Dame.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"][QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

Twilight Town wasn't shown in KH3D so far.:? And it going to have new worlds and be on par with the main titles.

I agree about the final mixes through, especially since there are many important moments that are in them.People that don't look into these final mixes are missing on these moments.

Wanderer5

The only worlds that are shown so far are Traverse Town, Destiny Islands, and Notre Dame.

First of all. None of the handhelds are spin offs. They all fill in the many plot holes the kingdom hearts series has. Also, kingdom hearts 3 can't be made until versus 13 is done. Were lucky to even get these handheld games to keep us satisfied unltil kingdom hearts 3 can be made. The only kh game that didn't add much was the new one, coded. Every other game had good gameplay and was received well. Why hate on a series that can't do much until the main team is done with its other project?Capitan_Kid

But the first 2 games were fun enough!

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

These spin-offs constantly recycle stuff time and time again. As will KH3DS, back to young Sora again in twilight town. How original. KH Birth By Sleep is the only one worthy of being called it's own game. The rest are just cheap cut and paste cash-ins. Nothing else matters until KH3. I'm tired of these bloody Final Mixes to. Seriously, why must the US and EU miss out on that much content? We never truly get the full package out of these games.

Crossel777

Twilight Town wasn't shown in KH3D so far.:? And it going to have new worlds and be on par with the main titles.

I agree about the final mixes through, especially since there are many important moments that are in them.People that don't look into these final mixes are missing on these moments.