Kingdom Hearts is more of an RPG than Mass Effect 2

Not only is KH is the better RPG, it has a better story with deep engaging characters as opposed to mass effects run of the mill sci-fi plot. I mean space marines saving the galaxy from an alien? How creative. KH features disney's characters in an original and interesting adventure. Not only that but combat and customization wise, KH>ME, and that's really sad considering KH is a JRPG and ME being a WRPG. Bioware complains about japanese developers then made a game exactly like them with some largely pointless dialogue options and almost no character customization. In terms of combat KH has gameplay like an action RPG (emphasis on RPG) while ME plays like an inferior gears of war. Not only is ME's shooting unsatisfying, the powers you wield are on such long cooldowns they don't make too much of a difference. Further more in KH you gain abilities while you level up, however in ME you simply gain points to put in one of those 5 super choices they give you or get from your squad mates via one of their boring side missions. Even the enemies and characters of the KH universe > Mass effect. The only good character from that series is mordin and everyone else just fits into a social stereotype. The universe of Mass Effect is also pretty bland, as opposed to the many amazing and diverse locations of KH, I definitely see why GS didn't even nominate ME for the best atmosphere award, not only that but if ME was so good why didn't it even win best 360 game? So SW do you agree?

or get from your squad mates via one of their boring side missions.

Ragnarok1051

Whilst you make many good points (though I haven't played KH so I can't comment), WTF? :P

I found the side-missions to be quite excellent and provide some meat to the game.

that but if ME was so good why didn't it even win best 360 game?Ragnarok1051

Kindgom Hearts is for kids with it's Disney characters. Mass Effects is for grown ups.

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This debate is STILL going on? Good Lord.

Kindgom Hearts is for kids with it's Disney characters. Mass Effects is for grown ups.

p3anut

Kindgom Hearts is for kids with it's Disney characters. Mass Effects is for grown ups.

p3anut

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

This debate is STILL going on? Good Lord.

DarkLink77

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

mrmusicman247

I Agree with you that Kingdom Hearts is more of an RPG that ME2 in the traditional sense, but ME2 is a better Roleplaying game because it gives you a role to play, however you want to play, rather than focusing on the stats side, which is usually what makes an RPG.

Also when you say kingdom Hearts' story is better, i'd only agree with you if you where talking about the first game, I hated the story in the 2nd game, it was too confusing.

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

theuncharted34

The first one is the better game imo, and it's really hard to appreciate the second without it.

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

mrmusicman247

I can't play the first one. I don't want to watch youtube vids, i want to play the first one, then continue with that exact character I used in ME 1. It's no big deal, There's plenty of games coming out in 2011.

Okay, how about this: if Mass Effect is so bad, why did it get nominated for best 360 game and best RPG?jalexbrown

[QUOTE="p3anut"]

Kindgom Hearts is for kids with it's Disney characters. Mass Effects is for grown ups.

jalexbrown

nah just messing around. I just wanted to see how it feels like to be a troll.

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

meatgrinderz

I'm very manly mind you.;)

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

This debate is STILL going on? Good Lord.

mrmusicman247

This debate is STILL going on? Good Lord.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

The first one is the better game imo, and it's really hard to appreciate the second without it.

KH a better story then Mass effect 2?

um yeah no...verging on incomprehensible most of the time KH is one of the worst examples of Jrpg lets be like anime syndrome that most jrpgs fail too anymore.

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

timmy00

I'm very manly mind you.

hmmmm? really?

I have a good feeling about this thread, I've never played ether games, I'm just here to watch. Though my 2 cents is that I never got why people are hung up on Mass Effect 2 being an RPG or not.

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

theuncharted34

The shooting isn't any more "shoddy" than the gunplay in uncharted 1 or 2.

Kingdom Hearts? Kingdom Hearts?! :lol: No offense but, wow. Mass Effect 2 is far, far, far better to me.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

This debate is STILL going on? Good Lord.

IronBass

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

timmy00

I'm very manly mind you.;)

Not with JB.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

theuncharted34

I'm very manly mind you.

hmmmm? really?

:|

:P

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

tempest91

The shooting isn't any more "shoddy" than the gunplay in uncharted 1 or 2.

Nope, felt pretty shoddy to me.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

This debate is STILL going on? Good Lord.

IronBass

this video pretty much sums up how I and many others feel about Dragon Age 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep_OTLZOQsU

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Okay, how about this: if Mass Effect is so bad, why did it get nominated for best 360 game and best RPG?Ragnarok1051

no you said it was more of an rpg, had a better story, better characters....and by the way your completely wrong, I do not believe you've ever played ME powers are on such a low cool down? um...if you develop your characters right, then you can use powers quite frequently and that stands for both me 1 and me 2.

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

timmy00

I'm very manly mind you.;)

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

93BlackHawk93

I'm very manly mind you.;)

Not with JB.

It take a real man to have a JB sig!

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

jalexbrown

The first one is the better game imo, and it's really hard to appreciate the second without it.

I just felt like you could get into the world much more in the 1st and it actually had a palpable atmosphere whereas the 2nd felt much more streamlined which made for a great action game, but I couldn't appreciate the cities or the universe as much as the 1st.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

jalexbrown

I'm very manly mind you.;)

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"]Okay, how about this: if Mass Effect is so bad, why did it get nominated for best 360 game and best RPG?WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Btw, I was completely underwhelmed by the mass effect 2 demo. These characters were referencing like 10+ characters and plot points that I had know idea what's going on. The shooting was shoddy, And I saw a fair bit of screen tearing. I am not impressed.

Unless that demo was an old build, and they plan on explaining the whole plot of ME 1 in depth, then I'm going to pass. Seems like a franchise you just have to play the first one to get into it.

theuncharted34

The shooting isn't any more "shoddy" than the gunplay in uncharted 1 or 2.

Nope, felt pretty shoddy to me.

As did uncharted for me. If it's really as bad as you make it out to be, superior PS3 version is debunked then.

[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

kingdom hearts is a great game for 12 year old girls

jalexbrown

I'm very manly mind you.;)

I have a good feeling about this thread, I've never played ether games, I'm just here to watch. Though my 2 cents is that I never got why people are hung up on Mass Effect 2 being an RPG or not.

FIipMode

I think it has to do with bioware's criticism of Japanese devs, when they themselves turn around and take a page out of their book.

You forgot to mention how awesome it is half the game consists of button mashing/quick time events during boss battles

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] I never said it was a terrible game. Its just that KH, a JRPG, is more of an RPG than ME2. jalexbrown

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

I have a good feeling about this thread, I've never played ether games, I'm just here to watch. Though my 2 cents is that I never got why people are hung up on Mass Effect 2 being an RPG or not.

Espada12

I think it has to do with bioware's criticism of Japanese devs, when they themselves turn around and take a page out of their book.

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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

The shooting isn't any more "shoddy" than the gunplay in uncharted 1 or 2.

tempest91

Nope, felt pretty shoddy to me.

As did uncharted for me. If it's really as bad as you make it out to be, superior PS3 version is debunked then.

And what made you say anything about uncharted? weren't we talking about mass effect? People can get pretty sensetive when talking about games I guess.

EDIT: here's what you did. I said the shooting in mass effect felt shoddy, then you pretty much got defensive and went outside the subject matter. It was an opinion from the start okay?

Hmmm....

Kingdom Hearts with Bioware Properties....

That would be awesome.