Kojima : MSG4 wont be on the 360

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#1 Anime4kXL
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/go307/feature-talkin-metal-gear-with-hideo-kojima-248695.php

"The PS3 is like the theatre, it's a little bit high-priced but it has to be high quality as well. The 360 is a DVD, it still needs to be high quality but you need more variations, while the Wii is almost like a TV channel, because every game you have it with your family".

"But like I said, MGS4 is aimed for the movie theatre, it's aimed for the PS3, so the game's scenario and graphics need this theatre-type hardware. It's when a producer has a game that can work on the 'DVD level' that a game will go multiplatform", he says. Sorry kids. Your "OMGMGS4360" banners will have to come out another day.

Since we've opened up this can of worms, I may as well get his thoughts on it. Why, I ask, do you think this rumour simply refuses to go away? "Because 360 owners want it on 360, obviously", he quips.

 

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#2 Endfinal
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I bet he and his studio are pissed for being asked the same question over and over and over again.
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What a couple!

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dang that is major blow the SW community. glad im not just sticking with 360 and getting ps3 when heavenly sword comes out. i feel sorry for fanboys who will not be able to play such a awesome looking game.
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#5 Mardil
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I had read something similar a long time ago, but I think Kojima compared the consoles to food. He always chooses the weirdest comparisons.
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#6 ccgod
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I bet he and his studio are pissed for being asked the same question over and over and over again. Endfinal
I think he takes pleasure in it just look at all the comments hes made about the 360
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#7 Dilrod
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LOL at all the lemmings swearing by the fact they "knew MGS4 will go multiplat". Kojima basically said your system cant handle it and doesn't deserve it.
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#8 EvilDrifter
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I shall ignore this and keep making topics about how MGS4 will go to the 360. 

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#9 Vandalvideo
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So MGS is more like a "movie" than a "game" according to him.
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#10 asdasd
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Lemmings claiming MGS4 would be on 360 = MAJORLY PWNED
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#11 nyoroism
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I think I'm the only one that took the time to notice that the title implies that the video game "Metal Solid Gear 4" will not be on the 360.
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#12 TheOrigin
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Well it's nice to see something official said about the matter.  "DVD level" should be fine for "most" games just not MGS4

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dang that is major blow the SW community. glad im not just sticking with 360 and getting ps3 when heavenly sword comes out. i feel sorry for fanboys who will not be able to play such a awesome looking game. alfy13
I'm happy; now maybe this stupid threads can stop appearing; well, we will now have to wait for the Metal Gear not coming to 360 threads to die down.
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 I get the sense from lemmings that they feel they have an incomplete system without this game.

 

 

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i feel sorry for fanboys who will not be able to play such a awesome looking game. alfy13
Is that how you describe Heavenly Sword ? An awesome looking game ? :| PS: If MGS4 doesn't sell well they will find a way. They always do.
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#16 Mardil
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Don't all movies from theaters appear eventually on DVD?
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 I get the sense from lemmings that they feel they have an incomplete system without this game.

 

 

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Idunno. I think they were just being greedy.
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[QUOTE="alfy13"] i feel sorry for fanboys who will not be able to play such a awesome looking game. Felous1
Is that how you describe Heavenly Sword ? An awesome looking game ? :| PS: If MGS4 doesn't sell well they will find a way. They always do.

i feel sorry for Fanboys who  will not be able to play such a awesome looking game (MGS4)
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#19 asdasd
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So MGS is more like a "movie" than a "game" according to him.Vandalvideo

it's aimed for the PS3, so the game's scenario and graphics need this theatre-type hardware. It's when a producer has a game that can work on the 'DVD level' that a game will go multiplatform", he says.

 

He wants graphics to be on theater level and that he would only port it if it would work on the DVD level. Which it wont. 

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#20 xBALOx
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So MGS is more like a "movie" than a "game" according to him.Vandalvideo
a game with the story of a good film, but then, if you played MGS 1,2 & 3 you should know already...
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Don't all movies from theaters appear eventually on DVD?Mardil
Not this one.. only on Blu-Ray. The xbox has plenty of straight to dvd games though.
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I think I'm the only one that took the time to notice that the title implies that the video game "Metal Solid Gear 4" will not be on the 360.nyoroism
:lol: HAHA But seriously, we'll have to see what happens. He actually never said, "No." He certainly danced around it, though.
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#23 dhjohns
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I get the sense from lemmings that they feel they have an incomplete system without this game.

Nike_Air
Maybe. I think the fanboys of 360 are trying to put a "death blow" on the PS3 fanboys. (I know the terms but think they are silly) Funny though, even if Metal Gear went to 360, it wouldn't be the death blow.
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That's strange.  Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3.  And games can always come out on multiple DVDs if needed.  And also, GeOW has much better graphics than MGS4.

My guess is MGS4 could probably have even been handled by the original Xbox. 

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Most movie theatres have poor picture quality. Kojima owns the cows.
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#26 dhjohns
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That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. And games can always come out on multiple DVDs if needed. And also, GeOW has much better graphics than MGS4.

My guess is MGS4 could probably have even been handled by the original Xbox.

viper7721
You were doing OK (not great) until that last sentence. That last sentence is pure garbage and utter fanboy nonsense.
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#27 Blinblingthing
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Lemmings claiming MGS4 would be on 360 = MAJORLY PWNEDasdasd

You know darn well NO lemming was thinking MGS4 on 360.

trust me none of em were

:roll:

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#28 Felous1
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But seriously, we'll have to see what happens. He actually never said, "No." He certainly danced around it, though.musicalmac
He basically said it's made for the PS3.
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That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. x.

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This is now Kojima and the Insominiac producer/developer saying other wise. You say this, and I say this, but we actually don't know. Only developers and engineers know for sure. We can speculate, but that means nothing.
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Most movie theatres have poor picture quality. Kojima owns the cows.braydee1234
Oh God this is going to be a bad post and I already regret posting it, but...

..Do movie theaters still use projections? I've been to the movies four times in the past 5 years, and I've forgotten to check.

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Lemmings claiming MGS4 would be on 360 = MAJORLY PWNEDasdasd
So much for the 360 version :(
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Most movie theatres have poor picture quality. Kojima owns the cows.braydee1234
You can't get the theater experience unless you go to the theater. You can't get the MGS4 experience unless you go the PS3.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]But seriously, we'll have to see what happens. He actually never said, "No." He certainly danced around it, though.Felous1
He basically said it's made for the PS3.

Yeah, I know what he said. You never know, though. I mean, I'd probably not buy it even if it did. I've tried to like those since the originals but never really got into it. Sony says a lot, and the opposite ends up happening. So, we'll see!
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But isn´t the 360 better then the ps3? lol It´s funny how ps will have a number of games that porting will be extremely dificult and in some cases just not possible, due to the size and the cell, where I´m pretty sure all 360 games can be ported to the ps, but I guess fanboys don´t understand what this means.
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[QUOTE="viper7721"]

That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. x.

Dilrod

This is now Kojima and the Insominiac producer/developer saying other wise. You say this, and I say this, but we actually don't know. Only developers and engineers know for sure. We can speculate, but that means nothing.

 

Haven't many developers already said that the 360 is more powerful than the PS3?  See, it works both ways. 

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That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. viper7721
This has not much to do with hardware. He pretty much said: "PS3 has Blu-ray, and we will be taking full advantage of it."
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#37 KeyWii
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But isn´t the 360 better then the ps3? lol It´s funny how ps will have a number of games that porting will be extremely dificult and in some cases just not possible, due to the size and the cell, where I´m pretty sure all 360 games can be ported to the ps, but I guess fanboys don´t understand what this means.Eddie-Vedder
Perhaps only on System Wars is X360 more powerful than PS3. Everywhere else where logic and rationality are prevalent forces, PS3 > X360.
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[QUOTE="braydee1234"]Most movie theatres have poor picture quality. Kojima owns the cows.nyoroism

Oh God this is going to be a bad post and I already regret posting it, but...

..Do movie theaters still use projections? I've been to the movies four times in the past 5 years, and I've forgotten to check.

I think so. BTW i was only joking about the whole movie quality thing. should have added the old /sarcasm at the end.
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Well it's nice to see something official said about the matter. "DVD level" should be fine for "most" games just not MGS4

TheOrigin
In my opinion,Hideo Kojima knows that the Ps3 is the only console that offers a true next-gen experience,that's why he refuses to develop the game for the 360.....
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]

[QUOTE="braydee1234"]Most movie theatres have poor picture quality. Kojima owns the cows.braydee1234

Oh God this is going to be a bad post and I already regret posting it, but...

..Do movie theaters still use projections? I've been to the movies four times in the past 5 years, and I've forgotten to check.

I think so. BTW i was only joking about the whole movie quality thing. should have added the old /sarcasm at the end.

Yeah, I wasn't really trying to de-bunk what you said either, I just had a thought that was relevant to what you were saying.
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[QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="viper7721"]

That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. x.

viper7721

This is now Kojima and the Insominiac producer/developer saying other wise. You say this, and I say this, but we actually don't know. Only developers and engineers know for sure. We can speculate, but that means nothing.

Haven't many developers already said that the 360 is more powerful than the PS3? See, it works both ways.

'Anonymous' developers saying the 360 is better than the PS3 are worthless, for one, there's no proof they are who they say there are. And two, there's no accountability.
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[QUOTE="TheOrigin"]

Well it's nice to see something official said about the matter. "DVD level" should be fine for "most" games just not MGS4

Dualshockin
In my opinion,Hideo Kojima knows that the Ps3 is the only console that offers a true next-gen experience,that's why he refuses to develop the game for the 360.....

Oh my gosh gag me with a spoon :roll: It doesn't get much more "fanboy-esque" than that, folks.
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That's strange.  Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3.  And games can always come out on multiple DVDs if needed.  And also, GeOW has much better graphics than MGS4.

My guess is MGS4 could probably have even been handled by the original Xbox. 

viper7721

you should have just told me you wanted  me to change my sig.

anyways i'll use this, thanks

360 has better hardware than PS3?????? Yeah so what's with elite 360 then???

games on multiple disc is last gen

GeOW HAS better graphics than MGS4????   HASSSSSSSS

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But isn´t the 360 better then the ps3? lol It´s funny how ps will have a number of games that porting will be extremely dificult and in some cases just not possible, due to the size and the cell, where I´m pretty sure all 360 games can be ported to the ps, but I guess fanboys don´t understand what this means.Eddie-Vedder
Alot of developers have said(simply)the Ps3's CPU is alot more powerful than the 360.Only 360 fans deny this. Couple this with Blu-ray,porting from the Ps3 to the 360 would require a major downgrade.
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="TheOrigin"]

Well it's nice to see something official said about the matter. "DVD level" should be fine for "most" games just not MGS4

musicalmac

In my opinion,Hideo Kojima knows that the Ps3 is the only console that offers a true next-gen experience,that's why he refuses to develop the game for the 360.....

Oh my gosh gag me with a spoon :roll: It doesn't get much more "fanboy-esque" than that, folks.

 

kojima called the 360 a dvd ..lol..if you want high definition you will need bigger storage space and a  great hardware to run it..and ps3 have it....it looks like lemming is out of luck..no mgs4 for them unless they really want a downgrades version..

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#46 elementz28
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]But isn´t the 360 better then the ps3? lol It´s funny how ps will have a number of games that porting will be extremely dificult and in some cases just not possible, due to the size and the cell, where I´m pretty sure all 360 games can be ported to the ps, but I guess fanboys don´t understand what this means.Dualshockin
Alot of developers have said(simply)the Ps3's CPU is alot more powerful than the 360.Only 360 fans deny this. Couple this with Blu-ray,porting from the Ps3 to the 360 would require a major downgrade.

 

i rather take the devlopers words then any xboxfanboy that never made a game in their life..lol.. 

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#47 Dualshockin
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That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. And games can always come out on multiple DVDs if needed. And also, GeOW has much better graphics than MGS4.My guess is MGS4 could probably have even been handled by the original Xbox.viper7721
And how many discs would it require,50 lol? GeOW graphics are ok,but Lair,MGS4,and alot of future Ps3 titles are already better looking(Mass Effect on the 360 looked better than GeOW before the downgrade)
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Damnit, I was really hoping Kojima would save me $600. Any news on the game's release date?
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We can safely say  TLHBO
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[QUOTE="viper7721"][QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="viper7721"]

That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. x.

KeyWii

This is now Kojima and the Insominiac producer/developer saying other wise. You say this, and I say this, but we actually don't know. Only developers and engineers know for sure. We can speculate, but that means nothing.

Haven't many developers already said that the 360 is more powerful than the PS3? See, it works both ways.

'Anonymous' developers saying the 360 is better than the PS3 are worthless, for one, there's no proof they are who they say there are. And two, there's no accountability.

They're not anonymous developers. John Carmack said he favored the 360 over the PS3. But he never said, as viper7721 implied, that the 360 is more powerful. He said the 360 is more efficient, and easier to develop for than the PS3. So while it's not possible for many developers to truly harness the potential of the PS3, exceptional developers like Kojima Productions might produce things that cannot be done on other systems. Note that I say "might", not "will".