Kojima : MSG4 wont be on the 360

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="TheOrigin"]

Well it's nice to see something official said about the matter. "DVD level" should be fine for "most" games just not MGS4

elementz28

kojima called the 360 a dvd ..lol..if you want high definition you will need bigger storage space and a  great hardware to run it..and ps3 have it....it looks like lemming is out of luck..no mgs4 for them unless they really want a downgrades version..

Unfortunately many hardcore lemming fanboys will keep making topics about MGS4 on the 360

...anyways - Yay! MGS4 exclusive

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="viper7721"][QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="viper7721"]

That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. x.

fuzzysquash

Haven't many developers already said that the 360 is more powerful than the PS3? See, it works both ways.

john carmack said the ps3 is slightly powerful as well..but he still choose the 360 since its more easier to work with .. 

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="TheOrigin"]

Well it's nice to see something official said about the matter. "DVD level" should be fine for "most" games just not MGS4

musicalmac

Lemmings claiming MGS4 would be on 360 = MAJORLY PWNEDasdasd

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="viper7721"][QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="viper7721"]

That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. x.

fuzzysquash

Haven't many developers already said that the 360 is more powerful than the PS3? See, it works both ways.

john carmack said the ps3 is slightly powerful as well..elementz28

John Carmack said the PS3 was more powerful, but the X360 has an easier or more familiar (to him) architecture. He's a pc programmer after all.KeyWii

[QUOTE="elementz28"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="TheOrigin"]

Well it's nice to see something official said about the matter. "DVD level" should be fine for "most" games just not MGS4

musicalmac

kojima called the 360 a dvd ..lol..if you want high definition you will need bigger storage space and a great hardware to run it..and ps3 have it....it looks like lemming is out of luck..no mgs4 for them unless they really want a downgrades version..

it can run alright but it be downgraded..kojima sayin they goin to use the ps3 power and take full advantage of it..and even space was issue for him..

i think most xbox fans gave up on MGS once Splinter cell was released.

MGS just isn't that important to the industry, altho i do see why the cows are getting excited... it's about the only game they really have to look forward to...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/go307/feature-talkin-metal-gear-with-hideo-kojima-248695.php

"The PS3 is like the theatre, it's a little bit high-priced but it has to be high quality as well. The 360 is a DVD, it still needs to be high quality but you need more variations, while the Wii is almost like a TV channel, because every game you have it with your family".

"But like I said, MGS4 is aimed for the movie theatre, it's aimed for the PS3, so the game's scenario and graphics need this theatre-type hardware. It's when a producer has a game that can work on the 'DVD level' that a game will go multiplatform", he says. Sorry kids. Your "OMGMGS4360" banners will have to come out another day.

Since we've opened up this can of worms, I may as well get his thoughts on it. Why, I ask, do you think this rumour simply refuses to go away? "Because 360 owners want it on 360, obviously", he quips.

Anime4kXL

What a couple!

KeyWii

Why does anyone care so much about a single player game i don't know. After you beat the game that will be the end of it and if itDeihmos

[QUOTE="KeyWii"]

What a couple!

Skippyj9

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why does anyone care so much about a single player game i don't know. After you beat the game that will be the end of it and if itfuzzysquash

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why does anyone care so much about a single player game i don't know. After you beat the game that will be the end of it and if itfuzzysquash

I see your point but bad example seeing as it is virtually impossable to complete oblivion. 

[QUOTE="Skippyj9"][QUOTE="KeyWii"]

 

What a couple!

fuzzysquash

Looks like they just got done "sealing the deal"

i think most xbox fans gave up on MGS once Splinter cell was released.

MGS just isn't that important to the industry, altho i do see why the cows are getting excited... it's about the only game they really have to look forward to...

tango90101

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="viper7721"][QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="viper7721"]

That's strange. Because 360 has better hardware than the PS3. x.

fuzzysquash

Haven't many developers already said that the 360 is more powerful than the PS3? See, it works both ways.

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

i think most xbox fans gave up on MGS once Splinter cell was released.

MGS just isn't that important to the industry, altho i do see why the cows are getting excited... it's about the only game they really have to look forward to...

 

Dualshockin

you mean the "theatre like" machine?

no thanks. i'll take my gaming on a gaming machine...;)

and with 50 hours of LESS non-gameplay conversations that always go into mgs games...

Two points.

 1.  Why do you enjoy, endorse, or even care about exclusive titles?  Exclusive titles hurt ALL consumers by forcing us to buy a different product that serves the same function.  We should not have to worry about encorporated monopolies over developer rights when we purchase a console.  Kojima's analogy breaks apart along this concept.  I don't have to own a "Paramount" DVD player to enjoy a movie produced by paramount or its affliate studios.  I don't have to own a "Fox" DVD to enjoy a movie produced by FOX or its affiliate studios.  Consumers are free to chose their DVD players based on the quality of hardware within the machine and the price.

 But gaming treats us, and exploits us, like ignorant children.  We buy multible "DVD players" just so a few executive fat cats can boost their profit margins another 2-4%.

 2.  The MGS series has become so cliche, reptitive, and sunk to such a terrible and sad low.  Who would WANT to play another MGS game? 

I'm glad the Ps3 has their exclusive. As much as I prefer Xbox360, I DONT want microsoft to win this console war. That would only justify them making crappy hardware for years. And we dont want them to take over this industry as well. I hope their wanna be MP3 player fails. I hope they lose tons of money as a company. organic_machine

Do NOT merit the PS3, or any other console, for processing a video game.  Processing a game and the game itself are two ideas that operate COMPLETELY independently from each other.  We DON'T need console-exclusive games anymore. 

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why does anyone care so much about a single player game i don't know. After you beat the game that will be the end of it and if itcakeorrdeath

I see your point but bad example seeing as it is virtually impossable to complete oblivion.

MGS4 is going to be online time also no?? 

This is a sad day for me....:(,now im forced to spend 600 dollars just to play metal gear solid 4....that sucks:(mlbslugger86

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]I'm glad the Ps3 has their exclusive. As much as I prefer Xbox360, I DONT want microsoft to win this console war. That would only justify them making crappy hardware for years. And we dont want them to take over this industry as well. I hope their wanna be MP3 player fails. I hope they lose tons of money as a company. FoamingPanda

Do NOT merit the PS3, or any other console, for processing a video game. Processing a game and the game itself are two ideas that operate COMPLETELY independently from each other. We DON'T need console-exclusive games anymore.

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why does anyone care so much about a single player game i don't know. After you beat the game that will be the end of it and if itChiChiMonKilla

I see your point but bad example seeing as it is virtually impossable to complete oblivion.

MGS4 is going to be online time also no?? 

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]I'm glad the Ps3 has their exclusive. As much as I prefer Xbox360, I DONT want microsoft to win this console war. That would only justify them making crappy hardware for years. And we dont want them to take over this industry as well. I hope their wanna be MP3 player fails. I hope they lose tons of money as a company. FoamingPanda

Do NOT merit the PS3, or any other console, for processing a video game.  Processing a game and the game itself are two ideas that operate COMPLETELY independently from each other.  We DON'T need console-exclusive games anymore. 

umm... okay... I know that the devs are responsible for the games, however, I do want Microsoft to not be as much as a monopoly. And, nice dream, but the day that console exclusives die is the day the quilaity in games deteriorate and we get a crap load of halo wannabe FPS, mario wannabe platformers, and a mix between elderscrolls and FF wannabes. The games will suck.  

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]I'm glad the Ps3 has their exclusive. As much as I prefer Xbox360, I DONT want microsoft to win this console war. That would only justify them making crappy hardware for years. And we dont want them to take over this industry as well. I hope their wanna be MP3 player fails. I hope they lose tons of money as a company. FoamingPanda

Do NOT merit the PS3, or any other console, for processing a video game.  Processing a game and the game itself are two ideas that operate COMPLETELY independently from each other.  We DON'T need console-exclusive games anymore. 

So.......what system would someone buy?

Lemmings claiming MGS4 would be on 360 = MAJORLY PWNEDasdasd

Only Konami is PWNED! :lol: They are going to lose so much money! :lol:

LOL at all the lemmings swearing by the fact they "knew MGS4 will go multiplat". Kojima basically said your system cant handle it and doesn't deserve it.Dilrod

lol, agree 

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]But seriously, we'll have to see what happens. He actually never said, "No." He certainly danced around it, though.Felous1

Kinda reminds me of how the Sony fanboys were wetting themselves because Epic made a similar comment regarding UT4. How it was only possible on a home console using the PS3 and how it was built from the ground up specifically for the platform. Well of course we all saw that this was a hype campaign for the PS3 because the when the game was previewed, the 360 version was further in developement and running better than the PS3 version.

Also, Kojima works for KONAMI, not Konami works for him so please stop with the "he can do what he wants with his franchise" nonsense folks. While its true he is the creator of the franchise and has his own dev house, Konami owns it period!!! The bigwigs in the boardroom making the financial decisions dictate whether or not a game goes multiplat:

But hey as with all PS3 exclusives this gen, only time will tell the true fate of MSG4.

Game On....

[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]This is a sad day for me....:(,now im forced to spend 600 dollars just to play metal gear solid 4....that sucks:(Deihmos

im one of the biggest metal gear solid fans you could meet,so yeah it is,but to be honest im not all that happy that i have to pay 600 dollars,thats why i was hoping for it to be ported.

[QUOTE="asdasd"]Lemmings claiming MGS4 would be on 360 = MAJORLY PWNEDPS3_3DO

Only Konami is PWNED! :lol: They are going to lose so much money! :lol:

??? MGS games sell well...they sell better then LP and DR, so I guess you should switch Konami with Capcom.

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why does anyone care so much about a single player game i don't know. After you beat the game that will be the end of it and if itDeihmos

I see your point but bad example seeing as it is virtually impossable to complete oblivion.

MGS4 is going to be online time also no??

*tears of joy*

I really didn't want it to go multiplat. MGS belongs to playstation

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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]Why does anyone care so much about a single player game i don't know. After you beat the game that will be the end of it and if itDeihmos

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]This is a sad day for me....:(,now im forced to spend 600 dollars just to play metal gear solid 4....that sucks:(mlbslugger86

im one of the biggest metal gear solid fans you could meet,so yeah it is,but to be honest im not all that happy that i have to pay 600 dollars,thats why i was hoping for it to be ported.

So rent the system and the game and save like $550 dollars.

Every game going multi. is an even worse option.

And yea it seems my assumptions were right about this but oh well

How?  Explain to me how.  Going multi is the best and most logical option at the current time. 

And before you cite the misconception of, "it's needed for competition," let me correct a few free market assumptions:

1. The competition between console developers would die and be reborn.  The new form of competition, creating the most cost effective, easy to program games for, and powerful peice of hardware would allow consumers to make intellegent and unbiased choices about products.  We'd have a BETTER form of competition that would make developers rely on things other than franchise titles and gimmics to sell their products.
2. Competition between GAME developers would increase ten fold.  Most gamers, who cannot afford all consoles on the market, would be exposed to dozens of franchises and games that they previously did not have access to.  People would buy more games in general and expand the gaming market itself.  Developers would have to produce better, larger, and more entertaining games to stay on top of their genres.  This would be a WONDERFUL move for smaller developers and developers who rely too much upon paticular franchises. 

[QUOTE="asdasd"]Lemmings claiming MGS4 would be on 360 = MAJORLY PWNEDPS3_3DO

Only Konami is PWNED! :lol: They are going to lose so much money! :lol: