Kotaku GOTY line-up. No MGS4.

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#1 3picuri3
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Looks like another group of respected game journalists dropped MGS4 off the GOTY list. keep in mind some of them are kind sony fanboys.. it got nods for art, and other things. but noticeably absent from GOTY - as it should be imho.

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Game of the Year:
Brian Crecente: Gears of War 2, LittleBigPlanet, Grand Theft Auto IV

Brian Ashcraft: Do-Don-Pachi Dai-Fukkatsu ver 1.5, Bangai-O Spirits, Grand Theft Auto IV

Mike McWhertor: Grand Theft Auto IV, Braid, Left 4 Dead

Mike Fahey: Fallout 3, Fable 2, Grand Theft Auto 4

Luke Plunkett: Gears of War 2, Grand Theft Auto IV, Far Cry 2 (PC)

Owen Good: Fallout 3, Gears of War 2, Grand Theft Auto IV

AJ Glasser: LittleBigPlanet, Valkyria Chronicles, Fallout 3

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I think GS is the only place when MGS4 gets the GOTY. Still Kotaku is known to be a PS3 hater place though.
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#3 X360BestEver
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as it should be
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#4 Lewisite
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Eh does not really matter to me, it won GOTY from Gamespot and on these forums that is all that counts.
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#5 tOtalPWNaAe
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who cares about kotaku????
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I think GS is the only place when MGS4 gets the GOTY. Still Kotaku is known to be a PS3 hater place though.DealRogers
Yeah, they are too kind to sony, lol. One of my regular sites, along with TeamXbox, and GameTrailers.

Still, at least MGS4 went down!

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I think GS is the only place when MGS4 gets the GOTY. Still Kotaku is known to be a PS3 hater place though.DealRogers
um. no. please take a look at the posts by the individual editors. they all have their own tastes, and some of them are strong sony boys :). not saying there isn't some bias, but this is by editor, not by kotaku.
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#8 Toriko42
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It makes sense, MGS4 was awesome for MGS fans but if you're not who the hell cares really. Fallout 3 and GTA IV are just as deserving of GOTY.
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Kotaku is the biggest gaming blog in the gaming industry, so it's nice to see that they have the same thoughts as me when it comes to MGS4. :D
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#10 ninjaxmas
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i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...
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i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...ninjaxmas
you my friend are confuse, subjective analysis is NEVER fact. critical thinking 101 here mate.
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#12 110million
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Kotaku is the biggest gaming blog in the gaming industry, so it's nice to see that they have the same thoughts as me when it comes to MGS4. :DBioShockOwnz
Knowing them its for different reasons, they probably think it comes out next year. Slowtaku was never good with that kind of thing.
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Kotaku is the biggest gaming blog in the gaming industry, so it's nice to see that they have the same thoughts as me when it comes to MGS4. :DBioShockOwnz
indeed, and they certainly write far better reviews over there. i like that they don't use a number system or grading system. they actually gave MGS4 heavy praise, and it got nominated for several other awards - it's a shame some of the hardcore cows in here have to show their colors before actually taking the time to read the lists. oh well - at least we know who they are, lol.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Kotaku is the biggest gaming blog in the gaming industry, so it's nice to see that they have the same thoughts as me when it comes to MGS4. :D110million
Knowing them its for different reasons, they probably think it comes out next year. Slowtaku was never good with that kind of thing.

you really don't know the site. they ALWAYS beat nearly EVERY publication with news releases and rumors :) nice try though i guess.
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[QUOTE="DealRogers"]I think GS is the only place when MGS4 gets the GOTY. Still Kotaku is known to be a PS3 hater place though.XTy

Yeah, they are too kind to sony, lol. One of my regular sites, along with TeamXbox, and GameTrailers.

Still, at least MGS4 went down!

http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/game-of-the-year/index.html?page=2

:D

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Its thier opinion. The only way ill freak out a bit is if gears2 or fable 2 would win goty.
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#17 Willy105
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who cares about kotaku????tOtalPWNaAe
More people go to Kotaku as a source of journalism than Gamespot.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Kotaku is the biggest gaming blog in the gaming industry, so it's nice to see that they have the same thoughts as me when it comes to MGS4. :D110million
Knowing them its for different reasons, they probably think it comes out next year. Slowtaku was never good with that kind of thing.

"Slowtaku"? Kotaku is actually a lot quicker at posting stuff than any other blog out there. Joystiq, Destructoid, etc, are all behind it.

Anyways, I know Bashcraft has talked about MGS4 many times, so I'm pretty sure they know it's out.

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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Kotaku is the biggest gaming blog in the gaming industry, so it's nice to see that they have the same thoughts as me when it comes to MGS4. :D3picuri3
Knowing them its for different reasons, they probably think it comes out next year. Slowtaku was never good with that kind of thing.

you really don't know the site. they ALWAYS beat nearly EVERY publication with news releases and rumors :) nice try though i guess.

I'm on Kotaku usually about twice a day, please explore the world wide web more, you will find sites that post certain articles at least days if not weeks before Slowtaku :)
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[QUOTE="ninjaxmas"]i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...3picuri3
you my friend are confuse, subjective analysis is NEVER fact. critical thinking 101 here mate.

nope, pure fact... honostly though, i can't for the love of god understand how the **** ANYONE could even think gears2 is a better game. blows my mind what ppl find to be a fantastic game this gen...
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="110million"] Knowing them its for different reasons, they probably think it comes out next year. Slowtaku was never good with that kind of thing.110million
you really don't know the site. they ALWAYS beat nearly EVERY publication with news releases and rumors :) nice try though i guess.

I'm on Kotaku usually about twice a day, please explore the world wide web more, you will find sites that post certain articles at least days if not weeks before Slowtaku :)

w/e mate :) again, nt :)

im guessing you got hit with their banhammer or hold some sort of grudge, because anyone that frequents it and other gaming sites knows they break a lot of stories before anyone else.

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[QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"]who cares about kotaku????Willy105
More people go to Kotaku as a source of journalism than Gamespot.

I dont. Rarely see that website. Hell most of the big secert news I see either comes from ign first or some obscene blog or japan website.

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Good for them.
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="ninjaxmas"]i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...ninjaxmas
you my friend are confuse, subjective analysis is NEVER fact. critical thinking 101 here mate.

nope, pure fact... honostly though, i can't for the love of god understand how the **** ANYONE could even think gears2 is a better game. blows my mind what ppl find to be a fantastic game this gen...

sorry mate, there is no pure fact with an opinion, other than it being a fact that it's your opinion. wiki: subjectivity.
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#25 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="tOtalPWNaAe"]who cares about kotaku????finalfantasy94

More people go to Kotaku as a source of journalism than Gamespot.

I dont. Rarely see that see that website. Hell most of the big secert news I see either comes from ign first or some obscene blog or japan website.

Kotaku always has it first. They are QUICK.
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#26 Dreams-Visions
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I'm fine with that. Again, that convoluted, over-the-top story is really rough.
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="ninjaxmas"]i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...ninjaxmas
you my friend are confuse, subjective analysis is NEVER fact. critical thinking 101 here mate.

nope, pure fact... honostly though, i can't for the love of god understand how the **** ANYONE could even think gears2 is a better game. blows my mind what ppl find to be a fantastic game this gen...

ninjaxams (previous account), you've said GTA IV and Half-Life 2 basically stink, yet you really like Tenchu Z and other games. Now, I'm not one to judge, because I also like my fair share of crappy games, but how can you judge others tastes when you (and I) have questionable tastes?

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#28 110million
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] More people go to Kotaku as a source of journalism than Gamespot.Willy105

I dont. Rarely see that see that website. Hell most of the big secert news I see either comes from ign first or some obscene blog or japan website.

Kotaku always has it first. They are QUICK.

How can they have anything first when 99% of the content is links to other sites?
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lol....kotaku........
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] More people go to Kotaku as a source of journalism than Gamespot.Willy105

I dont. Rarely see that see that website. Hell most of the big secert news I see either comes from ign first or some obscene blog or japan website.

Kotaku always has it first. They are QUICK.

Not im my book. I come here and when people post news I usally seen japan websites or mag,ign or even ng4(or neogaf) I forgot what its exacly called. There are times when they are first,but not alot.

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as it should beX360BestEver
IDK if it shouldve won but at least been a nominee. Hell its a lot better than gears 2. I havent touched the game since my first playthrough.
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I'm fine with that. Again, that convoluted, over-the-top story is really rough.Dreams-Visions
indeed. more heavy handed than a boxer with lead gloves. even Gamespot said that in their review summary - but still GOTY *shrugs*.. not the first time i've disagreed with GS picks, but you have to admit their staff is pretty small now - so it's a less representative system. if every editor likes 'X' franchise, sure as hell its going to win.
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So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.
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Glad to see more thought out opinions.

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I'm fine with that. Again, that convoluted, over-the-top story is really rough.Dreams-Visions

Its not really to hard to udnerstand. Just gatta know your MG history and pay real real close attention.

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This is for Game of the Year. Movie Gear Solid 4 clearly is not a game.
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i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...ninjaxmas

lulz, don't crynow. MGS4 SUCKS

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#38 3picuri3
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So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.BioShockOwnz
if they read their MGS4 review, or saw the things it was nominated for i'm sure they'd change their tune. it's just an immediate knee-jerk reflex 'omgz, not goty like GS = kotaku teh sux / slowtaku'
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Since we are all discussing opinions here, my opinion is that MGS4 is GOTY material.:D
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So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.BioShockOwnz

I only seen one or 2 cow responses in here. Why does everyone gatta be a fanboy if they disagree?

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So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.BioShockOwnz
Now? Cows have been hating on Kotaku since forever. It's obvious they have favor the 360 more (even thugh most sites do at the moment) they must be teh BIASED!!!111!
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Kotaku is great, but they are noticeably anti PS3. So not really a surprise.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm fine with that. Again, that convoluted, over-the-top story is really rough.finalfantasy94

Its not really to hard to udnerstand. Just gatta know your MG history and pay real real close attention.

Yea, I knew all the history. It's still ridiculous in most plausible ways. I could go on for days how totally bizarre half of what's going on is. And then I could go on and on about how MGS4 tried to catch everyone up on the history through long, poorly-scripted cutscenes that were in heavy need of a professional script writer's editing and bizarre plot twists (liquid's arm? c'mon.)

It's such extreme fiction, the creators of Star Trek would blush. and it takes such cheap liberties with characters, plot directions and creates such artificial moments purely to try to create emotional reactions, it's shameful.

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I think GS is the only place when MGS4 gets the GOTY. Still Kotaku is known to be a PS3 hater place though.DealRogers
I'd be surprised if IGN didn't choose MGS4 as their GOTY, to be honest.
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This is for Game of the Year. Movie Gear Solid 4 clearly is not a game.drinkoasis

wow you just fail.

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Kotaku is great, but they are noticeably anti PS3. So not really a surprise.EmperorSupreme
because Grand Theft Auto IV is not on the PS3? Nor is Little Big Planet?
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So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.BioShockOwnz

Honestly, I've never been a fan of Kotaku's work. The way they picked up an intentional hoax in a blog at CheapAssGamer and ran with it as a news story, and then complained when they got had, says a lot about the quality of their journalism. They're also more guilty than most when it comes to sensationalizing interview quotes for hits.

No problems with their personal GOTY picks, though.

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#48 3picuri3
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Kotaku is great, but they are noticeably anti PS3. So not really a surprise.EmperorSupreme
again, please remember they have 1-2 cows on staff.. even they didn't hit up MGS4 for GOTY. and remember Crecente's piece on the universality of MGS4 (which i totally disagree with btw) and the glowing review they gave it? sorry, i don't buy the anti-ps3 thing, especially considering they do GOTY on an editor-to-editor basis.
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Kotaku is great, but they are noticeably anti PS3. So not really a surprise.Dreams-Visions
because Grand Theft Auto IV is not on the PS3? Nor is Little Big Planet?

lol owned
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.3picuri3
if they read their MGS4 review, or saw the things it was nominated for i'm sure they'd change their tune. it's just an immediate knee-jerk reflex 'omgz, not goty like GS = kotaku teh sux / slowtaku'

Slowtaku was a fact since always, someone already pointed out, its the Japanese sites, NeoGaf and all that, which get news long before Kotaku, my only beef with them besides speed is their poorly written reviews, the Dissidia one made me want to gag, they had complaints about things that didn't effect the game in any way.