Kotaku GOTY line-up. No MGS4.

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#51 EuroMafia
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It won GOTY here which is what matters, not every site is gonna like the game as much as the other. Bias this, bias that... NO.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.sonicmj1

Honestly, I've never been a fan of Kotaku's work. The way they picked up an intentional hoax in a blog at CheapAssGamer and ran with it as a news story, and then complained when they got had, says a lot about the quality of their journalism. They're also more guilty than most when it comes to sensationalizing interview quotes for hits.

No problems with their personal GOTY picks, though.

Yeah, I remember that. CheapyD brought it up on his podcast, and Brian C. was pretty rude about it. Still, Kotaku is a site that publishes so many news articles, rumors, etc, so when they screw up every once in a while, I don't attack them for it.

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#53 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Kotaku is great, but they are noticeably anti PS3. So not really a surprise.Dreams-Visions
because Grand Theft Auto IV is not on the PS3? Nor is Little Big Planet?

No because I read their site daily and anyone else who does would know that.
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#54 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]So cows hate Kotaku now? Hmm, can't wait to hear that tune change when they start praising Killzone 2 more. It's funny that some posters go "lulz @ Kotaku", like they have more credibility than Kotaku. System Wars is serious business.110million
if they read their MGS4 review, or saw the things it was nominated for i'm sure they'd change their tune. it's just an immediate knee-jerk reflex 'omgz, not goty like GS = kotaku teh sux / slowtaku'

Slowtaku was a fact since always, someone already pointed out, its the Japanese sites, NeoGaf and all that, which get news long before Kotaku, my only beef with them besides speed is their poorly written reviews, the Dissidia one made me want to gag, they had complaints about things that didn't effect the game in any way.

yeah, well - me, and others, who are members at GAF, disagree with you. you obviously just have some petty grudge against them.. so whatever.

and whatever you think about their 'speed' which is without a doubt infinitely faster than gamespot - it has NOTHING to do with the topic. please stay on topic.

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#55 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm fine with that. Again, that convoluted, over-the-top story is really rough.Dreams-Visions

Its not really to hard to udnerstand. Just gatta know your MG history and pay real real close attention.

Yea, I knew all the history. It's still ridiculous in most plausible ways. I could go on for days how totally bizarre half of what's going on is. And then I could go on and on about how MGS4 tried to catch everyone up on the history through long, poorly-scripted cutscenes that were in heavy need of a professional script writer's editing and bizarre plot twists (liquid's arm? c'mon.) It's such extreme fiction, the creators of Star Trek would blush.

Dude its a video game with clones,tons of small robots and giant robots,super ninjas and other crazy stuff and the arm is the only thing you point out. I mean this is suppose to be a crazy story. They werent going for 24 or law and order here. I found everything to rap up nicely,but I guess everyone has thier opinions.

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#56 butteater86
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Good for them. But this is gamespot, where gamespot's and only gamespot's opinion counts. MGS4 is game of the year. Deal with it.
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#57 3picuri3
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Good for them. But this is gamespot, where gamespot's and only gamespot's opinion counts. MGS4 is game of the year. Deal with it.butteater86
we know that mate, we're talking about kotaku :) thanks for the reminder though butteater.
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#58 MarloStanfield
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Bangai-o spirits + VC = auitomatic win
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#59 110million
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] if they read their MGS4 review, or saw the things it was nominated for i'm sure they'd change their tune. it's just an immediate knee-jerk reflex 'omgz, not goty like GS = kotaku teh sux / slowtaku'

Slowtaku was a fact since always, someone already pointed out, its the Japanese sites, NeoGaf and all that, which get news long before Kotaku, my only beef with them besides speed is their poorly written reviews, the Dissidia one made me want to gag, they had complaints about things that didn't effect the game in any way.

yeah, well - me, and others, who are members at GAF, disagree with you. you obviously just have some petty grudge against them.. so whatever.

No, I just said why I don't like them, I think you just quoted me and posted whatever you were going to say anyway.
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#61 ninjaxmas
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[QUOTE="ninjaxmas"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] you my friend are confuse, subjective analysis is NEVER fact. critical thinking 101 here mate. BioShockOwnz

nope, pure fact... honostly though, i can't for the love of god understand how the **** ANYONE could even think gears2 is a better game. blows my mind what ppl find to be a fantastic game this gen...

ninjaxams (previous account), you've said GTA IV and Half-Life 2 basically stink, yet you really like Tenchu Z and other games. Now, I'm not one to judge, because I also like my fair share of crappy games, but how can you judge others tastes when you (and I) have questionable tastes?

lol well i personally wouldn't recomend tenchuZ to anyone as its really only for the hardcore tenchu fan. it has its faults but as a tenchu fan i enjoyed what it had to offer. its not perfect, and i wouldn't say its even AA quality but theres alot there for the tenchu faithfull. theres the difference. HL2 has wayyyy outdated FPS mechanics and a few other minor problems that ppl don't like to mention. I play alot of FPSs so dispite the fact that it had great pacing and a solid physics system I just wasn't drawn into it. shooting mechanics and AI IMO are the most important aspects of a shooter. HL2 just didn't have either. the gunplay was rather poor. i guess looking at the sum of its parts its a great game but i still don't think its right to write of the things it fails with. its more than just a simple shooter, i understand that, but ppl label it as the greatest FPS ever made. the S part of said game is just meh so how could it possibly be? I've played dozens of FPSs that handle almost every aspect of being a FPS better than HL2. as for gta4, well, its not my type of game. i usually hate sandbox titles save for a few but its solid as well. i wouldn't say its poor either, in fact, i'd say that the sandbox game design is one of the greatest game designs to come along in the past 10 years, still, its GTA, it has repetitive missions and lowbrow humor. in spite of the fact that they have improved the core gameplay mechanics, they are still incredibly generic and (at least to me) off. at least it has a likable main character. don't get me wrong, neither are bad IMO, i just found them to be overated. thats my explaination. we do have some eccentric taste when it comes to games i suppose don't we?
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#62 Jack_Bauer07
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Is this really that surprising? Yes, I see a few PS3 exclusives up there but Kotaku is known for being overly harsh on the PS3. I'm not saying they're necessarily biased for leaving MGS4 out, but still.
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#63 ninjaxmas
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[QUOTE="ninjaxmas"]i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...X360BestEver

lulz, don't crynow. MGS4 SUCKS

says the guy with the username x360bestever...
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#64 shaggygrosser
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Looks like Kotaku & GiantBomb are getting GOTY right.
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#65 3picuri3
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Is this really that surprising? Yes, I see a few PS3 exclusives up there but Kotaku is known for being overly harsh on the PS3. I'm not saying they're necessarily biased for leaving MGS4 out, but still.Jack_Bauer07

everyone's harsh on the PS3 because it sucks compared to the PS2. simple stuff mate. not complicated. what are we at now? 3-4 years?

MGS4

tons of generic shooters

LBP

Motorstorm

Drakes

VC

apart from multiplats this is the weakest offering from Sony. period. i think PSP at this point has a more diverse library with more AAAE. any real gamer will not disagree with this - so can we quit the stupid biased stuff? anyone that visits kotaku enough knows they have cows on staff..... yet they still didn't pick MGS4 for their individual staff picks. teh conspiracy :roll:

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#66 foxhound_fox
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Good.
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#67 dark-warmachine
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[QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]Is this really that surprising? Yes, I see a few PS3 exclusives up there but Kotaku is known for being overly harsh on the PS3. I'm not saying they're necessarily biased for leaving MGS4 out, but still.3picuri3

everyone's harsh on the PS3 because it sucks compared to the PS2. simple stuff mate. not complicated. what are we at now? 3-4 years?

MGS4

tons of generic shooters

LBP

Motorstorm

Drakes

VC

apart from multiplats this is the weakest offering from Sony. period. i think PSP at this point has a more diverse library with more AAAE. any real gamer will not disagree with this - so can we quit the stupid biased stuff? anyone that visits kotaku enough knows they have cows on staff..... yet they still didn't pick MGS4 for their individual staff picks. teh conspiracy :roll:

So what. Are you trying to say MGS4 isn't GOTY material despite GS giving it GOTY?

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#68 MightyMuna
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its sad the way some of you get your kicks, anyway, as long as you are getting them, that's cool. I respect their opinion, but I disagree.
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#69 DontBeHatin1983
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gta4 is the most boring game i played this year
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#70 110million
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[QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]Is this really that surprising? Yes, I see a few PS3 exclusives up there but Kotaku is known for being overly harsh on the PS3. I'm not saying they're necessarily biased for leaving MGS4 out, but still.3picuri3

everyone's harsh on the PS3 because it sucks compared to the PS2. simple stuff mate. not complicated. what are we at now? 3-4 years?

MGS4

tons of generic shooters

LBP

Motorstorm

Drakes

VC

apart from multiplats this is the weakest offering from Sony. period. i think PSP at this point has a more diverse library with more AAAE. any real gamer will not disagree with this - so can we quit the stupid biased stuff? anyone that visits kotaku enough knows they have cows on staff..... yet they still didn't pick MGS4 for their individual staff picks. teh conspiracy :roll:

Its still opinion, I own a PS3, 360, and PC, I buy about twice as many games for PC then PS3 and about twice as many on PS3 then 360, I get all big multiplats on PC, since its by far the best version, always, and exclusive wise, MGS4, VC, and LBP were more then anything I really enjoyed on 360 this year.
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#71 foxhound_fox
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So what. Are you trying to say MGS4 isn't GOTY material despite GS giving it GOTY?dark-warmachine

Gamespot's opinion is as valid as anyone who posts on the forum.
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#72 dark-warmachine
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its sad the way some of you get your kicks, anyway, as long as you are getting them, that's cool. I respect their opinion, but I disagree. MightyMuna
It's as if people are so butt-hurt about MGS4 recieving GOTY here.:lol: People need to learn to get over it already, it's just opinions.
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#73 dual_boot
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kotaku? respected jounalists? :lol:
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#74 Dystopian-X
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Ah, Kotaku are well respected journalists now, because they didn't put MGS4 on the list I presume.
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#75 dark-warmachine
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[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]So what. Are you trying to say MGS4 isn't GOTY material despite GS giving it GOTY?foxhound_fox

Gamespot's opinion is as valid as anyone who posts on the forum.

I agree.
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#76 ps3weee
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it dosnt deserve to be on the list imo anyway , it should be the movie of the year ,not a bad thing I enyojed it more then batman.
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#77 mo0ksi
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I'm just happy that GTA4 and Fallout 3 are getting their well deserved credit.
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#78 DanteSuikoden
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[QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]Is this really that surprising? Yes, I see a few PS3 exclusives up there but Kotaku is known for being overly harsh on the PS3. I'm not saying they're necessarily biased for leaving MGS4 out, but still.3picuri3

everyone's harsh on the PS3 because it sucks compared to the PS2. simple stuff mate. not complicated. what are we at now? 3-4 years?

MGS4

tons of generic shooters

LBP

Motorstorm

Drakes

VC

apart from multiplats this is the weakest offering from Sony. period. i think PSP at this point has a more diverse library with more AAAE. any real gamer will not disagree with this - so can we quit the stupid biased stuff? anyone that visits kotaku enough knows they have cows on staff..... yet they still didn't pick MGS4 for their individual staff picks. teh conspiracy :roll:

The Wii and 360 suck compared to the PS2 as well, they just don't have the burden of living up to the name

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[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]its sad the way some of you get your kicks, anyway, as long as you are getting them, that's cool. I respect their opinion, but I disagree. dark-warmachine
It's as if people are so butt-hurt about MGS4 recieving GOTY here.:lol: People need to learn to get over it already, it's just opinions.

agreed. its like they are really hurting, they are taking it to heart. lol. really sad. its just a random person on the internet opinion.
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="ninjaxmas"]i see alot of gears2 votes. mgs4 is 1000x the game that generic pos is. thats FACT not opinion...ninjaxmas
you my friend are confuse, subjective analysis is NEVER fact. critical thinking 101 here mate.

nope, pure fact... honostly though, i can't for the love of god understand how the **** ANYONE could even think gears2 is a better game. blows my mind what ppl find to be a fantastic game this gen...

So, because you can't see how people can enjoy Gears 2 more than MGS 4, it automatically makes it a fact that MGS 4 is better?

Man, I'd love to see the logic to back that one up. And by "logic", I mean something other than "because I said so".

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#81 Xalaten
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Kotaku's game of the year will be GTA 4.

It got 6 mentions out of the 7 from the editor's. The next closest were Gears 2 and Fallout 3 with 3 each.

I don't see how it could go any other way, quite frankly. If 6 out of the 7 nominate one game, it's gotta beat the next closest two at 3 each, right?

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#82 OmegaTau
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gears 2 is generic POS
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#83 AAllxxjjnn
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Good, MGS4 doesn't deserve game of the year.
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#84 hopesfall2own
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And the cows say kotaku doens't matter anymore, surprise :roll:
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#85 DanteSuikoden
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And the cows say kotaku doens't matter anymore, surprise :roll:hopesfall2own

And lemmings think Kotaku and any other site with GOTY having MGS4 a non-contender/winner is the bible now, cows aren't the only ones that are fickle

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#86 Floppy_Jim
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Meh, MGS4 can't win everywhere. Only at Gamespot and a couple of other places.
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]And the cows say kotaku doens't matter anymore, surprise :roll:DanteSuikoden

And lemmings think Kotaku is the bible now, cows aren't the only ones that are fickle

No one here is saying Kotaku is the best thing ever, once again, cows make stuff up to lessen the hurt
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#88 THQ88
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I think GS is the only place when MGS4 gets the GOTY. Still Kotaku is known to be a PS3 hater place though.DealRogers

MGS4 won GOTY awards on many other sites. Like 5 awards.

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#89 DanteSuikoden
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[QUOTE="DanteSuikoden"]

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]And the cows say kotaku doens't matter anymore, surprise :roll:hopesfall2own

And lemmings think Kotaku is the bible now, cows aren't the only ones that are fickle

No one here is saying Kotaku is the best thing ever, once again, cowsmake stuff up to lessen the hurt

Don't be quick to assume that only...well you know the rest;)

And like I said cows aren't the only fickles. Lems have their share of DC

In its history, Gamespot has never overrated a game as much as MGS4.

MGS4 #30 on EUROGAMER!

I recall a lot of lems saying MGS4 is just a movie and overrated garbadge when it got a 10, Konami's site gave hope for a MGS port to 360, Gamespot puts a sticky full of lems getting hyped.........only AC!D for IPhone!

Who cares about GOTY on sites anyway. Fanboys go mad about it but in the end they fail

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#90 dark-warmachine
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[QUOTE="DanteSuikoden"]

[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"]And the cows say kotaku doens't matter anymore, surprise :roll:hopesfall2own

And lemmings think Kotaku is the bible now, cows aren't the only ones that are fickle

No one here is saying Kotaku is the best thing ever, once again, cows make stuff up to lessen the hurt

No but the fact that picuri dedicated this thread to MGS4 not being GOTY on another site to compensate for the simple fact MGS4 is GOTY here, pretty much says a lot.
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#91 -Ninja_Dog-
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Eh does not really matter to me, it won GOTY from Gamespot and on these forums that is all that counts.Lewisite

Gamespot is not what it used to be for a while now, so they are pretty irrelevant.

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#92 TREAL_Since
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Kotaku is the biggest Lemming-ran site on the net lol. Besides that fact, since when has Kotaku been respected for their opinions?
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#93 obamanian
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Apart from the huge hype, what does MGS4 really have ?

Last gen small or empty levels, last gen gameplay a bit better than MGS3, last gen loading and last gen installs all the time

Also the in game visuals are mediocre, and i am beeing generous

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#94 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="Lewisite"]Eh does not really matter to me, it won GOTY from Gamespot and on these forums that is all that counts.-Ninja_Dog-

Gamespot is not what it used to be for a while now, so they are pretty irrelevant.

Yeah, they're irrelevant now because Lords of the Lemmings JeffG and RyanD left. GS is law here. But we shouldn't take their opinion to heart in real life.
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#95 dark-warmachine
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Apart from the huge hype, what does MGS4 really have ?

Last gen small or empty levels, last gen gameplay a bit better than MGS3, last gen loading and last gen installs all the time

Also the in game visuals are mediocre, and i am beeing generous

obamanian
That can be said about any game being similar to it's predecessors. A good example is Resident Evil 5 or even Halo 3.
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Wow, I haven't seen this much damage control in a looong time :?.
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#97 edo-tensei
Member since 2007 • 4581 Posts

Looks like another group of respected game journalists dropped MGS4 off the GOTY list. keep in mind some of them are kind sony fanboys.. it got nods for art, and other things. but noticeably absent from GOTY - as it should be imho.

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Game of the Year:
Brian Crecente: Gears of War 2, LittleBigPlanet, Grand Theft Auto IV

Brian Ashcraft: Do-Don-Pachi Dai-Fukkatsu ver 1.5, Bangai-O Spirits, Grand Theft Auto IV

Mike McWhertor: Grand Theft Auto IV, Braid, Left 4 Dead

Mike Fahey: Fallout 3, Fable 2, Grand Theft Auto 4

Luke Plunkett: Gears of War 2, Grand Theft Auto IV, Far Cry 2 (PC)

Owen Good: Fallout 3, Gears of War 2, Grand Theft Auto IV

AJ Glasser: LittleBigPlanet, Valkyria Chronicles, Fallout 3

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yeah and in here crisis warhead and gears didn't get voted either point? or are you just trolling lol
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#98 trasherhead
Member since 2005 • 3058 Posts
Kotaku lost alll cred with me after they messed with ScrewAttack and Cheapy D.
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#99 ToScA-
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Kotaku is great, but they are noticeably anti PS3. So not really a surprise.EmperorSupreme
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