Kotaku shows Anti-PS3 bias once again (56k Warning)

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#1 zero_snake99
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Today Kotaku posted an article. (LINK) Screenshot below of headline/first paragraph.

As you can see with this screenshot alone their GT5 headlines aren't very positive. Even the "related" articles show the same thing.

Now, in the article, they talk about a video showing "painfully slow load times" in GT5. It shows about 1 minute in load time.

(VIDEO)

As you can see there are a few problems here... Someone has created a video showing what is wrong in the video.

(DEBUNK VIDEO)

56k / TL;DR Version

1) Original video's sound ends before the video does, because the video lasts longer than the sound. Why? The video is slowed down, causing the sound to not sync up with the video

2) The reflection of the TV (seen during the loading) shows not only people, but camera flashes being slower than they normally would.

3) The car and GT race "START" sound do not match the video at all.

4) Kotaku releases an update saying

Update: Some readers have pointed out that this video may be slowed to give the appearance of longer load times. Make of it what you will!

Instead of Kotaku saying "This is a blatant video doctoring" (In which it has been proven it is) they say "Make of it what you will." Really?

EDIT: More links dealing with "Kotaku bias"

http://www.gamenewser.net/?p=27

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/playstation-3/rumors-and-blacklists-sony-kotaku-and-playstation-home-update.html

http://kotaku.com/5112032/stop-the-presses-bandai+namco-give-a-tekken-soul-calibur+themed-lounge-to-japanese--playstation-home-users

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#2 -Feath-
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Kotaku, lol.
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#3 KarateeeChop
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Kotaku's simply pointing out the truth. Don't read it if the truth is hard to take.

EDIT: nvm, Kotaku messed up.

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Hmm, interesting, I remember Kotaku's editor looked upset on GTTV when one of his colleagues rated MS's conference C.
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#5 NoobisMaxcimus
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Kotaku's simply pointing out the truth. Don't read it if the truth is hard to take.

KarateeeChop

TC... just... explained...why...

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#6 Wasdie  Moderator
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Kotaku's simply pointing out the truth. Don't read it if the truth is hard to take.

KarateeeChop

Actually I think the evidence shown proves otherwise.

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#7 lundy86_4
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It does seem to be slower, but would that make a huge difference to the load times shown? I guess if it's slowed to 50% it would double the times, but I don't see that video being anywhere near as slow as 50%.

Either way, that headline isn't bad, if the load times are slow, good on them for calling it "painful", as i'm sure that's how they felt. You can't stand up for everything your favourite company/companies do.

As for their update, they simply could have stated that as the proof is simply another video stating the slowdown. They may have seen that as insufficient, but posted the update to keep readers aware.

All in all, an interesting find.

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#8 Chutebox
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Kotaku's simply pointing out the truth. Don't read it if the truth is hard to take.

KarateeeChop
Did you read it?
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#9 KarateeeChop
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

Kotaku's simply pointing out the truth. Don't read it if the truth is hard to take.

NoobisMaxcimus

TC... just... explained...why...

yeah, nvm :P

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okay, then dont view the site...
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I've stopped readingGawker Media blogs ever since the iPhone 4 debacle.

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#12 ohthemanatee
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don't see the point, even if this were true a slow loading or bad framerate is the kind of thing that gets fixed before a release date
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Kotaku makes fun of everything its one of the well respected sites out there
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Not sure if it's bias or simply posting gossip to get hits.
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#15 Chutebox
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Kotaku makes fun of everything its one of the well respected sites out therebigboss5ak
I don't know if you're serious or not.
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So making a careful observation regardlng loading time qualifies as an anti-PS3 bias? Weak.

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#17 mystervj
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don't see the point, even if this were true a slow loading or bad framerate is the kind of thing that gets fixed before a release dateohthemanatee
It's to prove teh bias for Kotaku :P It's probably just hack tactics to get more hits.
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#18 bobbetybob
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Kotaku post news, who gives a crap if they have a bias, that's like complaining that System Wars posters are biased, well duh, who cares.
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#19 Chutebox
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So making a careful observation regardlng loading time qualifies as an anti-PS3 bias? Weak.

Shad0ki11
Read. Please.
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#20 Dead-Memories
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conspiracy theories making a comeback?

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Kotaku makes fun of everything its one of the well respected sites out thereChutebox
I don't know if you're serious or not.

Either way debunked or not the load times still seem to be a bit longer than it should
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#22 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]Kotaku makes fun of everything its one of the well respected sites out therebigboss5ak
I don't know if you're serious or not.

Either way debunked or not the load times still seem to be a bit longer than it should

How do you know?
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#23 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

So making a careful observation regardlng loading time qualifies as an anti-PS3 bias? Weak.

Chutebox

Read. Please.

Still weak.

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#24 sikanderahmed
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ummm the video wasnt slow.in fact the videowas sped up so much that the time slowed down. i think its pretty much confirmed GT5 will take light years to load.

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#25 ermacness
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

So making a careful observation regardlng loading time qualifies as an anti-PS3 bias? Weak.

Shad0ki11

Read. Please.

Still weak.

but hardcore fatcs and proof>>>>>>someone's "weak" opinion:)

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#26 Foolio1
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Instead of Kotaku saying "This is a blatant video doctoring" (In which it has been proven it is) they say "Make of it what you will." Really?

zero_snake99

I don't know if I would say it's blatant video doctoring. Probably just a crappy YouTube upload, though I read the comments on that story and some people posted the videos of better quality showing that the load times are not nearly as long. The video doesn't look quite right to me. Also to be fair, that is a 13-mile race track the game is loading too.

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#27 zero_snake99
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Not sure if it's bias or simply posting gossip to get hits. black_tempest
The other two headlines (off to the right on the picture I posted) has 2 other articles speaking with a negative undertone.
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Isn't kotaku notorious for how it loves bashing people and games?
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#31 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

ummm the video wasnt slow.in fact the videowas sped up so much that the time slowed down. i think its pretty much confirmed GT5 will take light years to load.

ermacness

Fact??!?!?!!!!:lol: What "facts" do you have? "In FACT" Kotaku, themaelves acknowledged the delay and slowness of the video. Fission mailed!!!!:lol:

I'm thinking it was a joke :P

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#32 sikanderahmed
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Isn't kotaku notorious for how it loves bashing people and games?Kleeyook

thats destructoid

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I don't know if you're serious or not.Chutebox
Either way debunked or not the load times still seem to be a bit longer than it should

How do you know?

Ill admit certain parts does seem slowed down but not the whole video. During the loading at times people were moving slow and at times they weren't
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This is why i stopped goin to that sham of a site.

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#36 mystervj
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Okay here's another video showing the loading of the same race track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk5waWBfPSo It's slightly less than 30 seconds. So the video on Kotaku is heavily tampered with.
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#37 gago-gago
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Just because they experienced that, they're anti-PS3?!, wow.

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#38 zero_snake99
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ummm the video wasnt slow.in fact the videowas sped up so much that the time slowed down. i think its pretty much confirmed GT5 will take light years to load.

sikanderahmed

My sarcasm senses are tingling.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

Instead of Kotaku saying "This is a blatant video doctoring" (In which it has been proven it is) they say "Make of it what you will." Really?

Foolio1

I don't know if I would say it's blatant video doctoring. Probably just a crappy YouTube upload, though I read the comments on that story and some people posted the videos of better quality showing that the load times are not nearly as long. The video doesn't look quite right to me. Also to be fair, that is a 13-mile race track the game is loading too.

Regardless, the time the ORIGINAL video showed was around 1 minute, and the video timed to the sounds was around 30 seconds. That's a huge difference in time.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] Either way debunked or not the load times still seem to be a bit longer than it shouldbigboss5ak
How do you know?

Ill admit certain parts does seem slowed down but not the whole video. During the loading at times people were moving slow and at times they weren't

So you don't know. Lets just wait for the game to come out ya?
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#40 ermacness
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Okay here's another video showing the loading of the same race track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk5waWBfPSo It's slightly less than 30 seconds. So the video on Kotaku is heavily tampered with.mystervj
Don't worry bro, you proved your point well enough here. It's just the lems who take anything bad that have been said about "said" ps3 game or accessory and run to the hills with it, even though the source have been fully proven false

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#41 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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To be honest, I wouldn't really expect them to really check the speed of the video. How would they know that? They made an update, I don't see any Anti-PS3 bias.
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#42 zero_snake99
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Just because they experienced that, they're anti-PS3?!, wow.

gago-gago
No, its the way the handled it. They need to review their content before posting it. Even watching it you can tell it's studdering and slowed down. After being showed that it IS slowed down, they don't retract the article or edit it, but instead saying "readers suggest a slowed down video" instead of confirming it themselves.
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#43 Foolio1
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[QUOTE="Foolio1"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

Instead of Kotaku saying "This is a blatant video doctoring" (In which it has been proven it is) they say "Make of it what you will." Really?

zero_snake99

I don't know if I would say it's blatant video doctoring. Probably just a crappy YouTube upload, though I read the comments on that story and some people posted the videos of better quality showing that the load times are not nearly as long. The video doesn't look quite right to me. Also to be fair, that is a 13-mile race track the game is loading too.

Regardless, the time the ORIGINAL video showed was around 1 minute, and the video timed to the sounds was around 30 seconds. That's a huge difference in time.

I agree, but I was just saying that I think that may have been due to the video quality. I've uploaded stuff to YouTube and had the video/audio out of synch. That's why I'm not convinced it was intentional, but yes I still think the video gives a false impression of the real game.

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#44 Ravirr
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Oh noes, next thing I'll hear is that news stations are biased...

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Not sure if it's bias or simply posting gossip to get hits. black_tempest
The latter makes the most sense, nothing like a bit of heat to stir up some hits.
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#46 zero_snake99
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conspiracy theories making a comeback?

Dead-Memories
It's either a bias or just a "Jim Sterling" attempt at getting hits. There is no "conspiracy" in human opinions, though technically, it is an article and not an editorial.
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#47 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Just because they experienced that, they're anti-PS3?!, wow.

No, its the way the handled it. They need to review their content before posting it. Even watching it you can tell it's studdering and slowed down. After being showed that it IS slowed down, they don't retract the article or edit it, but instead saying "readers suggest a slowed down video" instead of confirming it themselves.

LMAO i cant believe people on this site are defending them LMAO.
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#48 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

[QUOTE="Foolio1"]

I don't know if I would say it's blatant video doctoring. Probably just a crappy YouTube upload, though I read the comments on that story and some people posted the videos of better quality showing that the load times are not nearly as long. The video doesn't look quite right to me. Also to be fair, that is a 13-mile race track the game is loading too.

Foolio1

Regardless, the time the ORIGINAL video showed was around 1 minute, and the video timed to the sounds was around 30 seconds. That's a huge difference in time.

I agree, but I was just saying that I think that may have been due to the video quality. I've uploaded stuff to YouTube and had the video/audio out of synch. That's why I'm not convinced it was intentional, but yes I still think the video gives a false impression of the real game.

Regardless of it being a youtube problem or not, posting it as is without review and saying "slow load times" is erroneous.
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#49 Banjo_Kongfooie
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LOL bias... Oh and IGN are 'Xbots' too? I watched and the load times were awful. I was considering a Ps3 but I will see how Last Gaurdian turns out
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#50 Thunderdrone
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If Kotaku is rilling you up, they're doing their job properly.