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#1  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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Kotaku proving once again they are non-gamers.

http://screenburn.kotaku.com/wasteland-2-looks-incredibly-complicated-1631435836

"Wasteland 2 Looks Incredibly Complicated"

"So this latest trailer for Wasteland 2 is bad news for me. The trailer spends several minutes explaining the seemingly infinite options in designing a squad, only to then show how a poorly designed squad will instantly be cut to pieces in the game. It's almost designed to scare players away."

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#2 lostrib
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derp

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#3 locopatho
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Excellent. When did Kotaku get so shit? I mean it was never REALLY good but they seem to purposely be awful these days, when did that happen?

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#4 mems_1224
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@locopatho said:

Excellent. When did Kotaku get so shit? I mean it was never REALLY good but they seem to purposely be awful these days, when did that happen?

They've always been pretty awful. I usually only go there because they're pretty quick about stealing news from other sites and neogaf. lol

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#5 MonsieurX
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Just watched the video,game still looks awesome. Can't wait!

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#6 lawlessx
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funny..that very same trailer got me even more interested in the game.

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#7 parkurtommo
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Reading his explanation kind of validates his opinion. but even so, I don't think it makes sense to judge a game over complex UIs and mechanics. People who enjoy that will enjoy Wasteland 2. Doesn't make it bad, or good. Just different.

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#8 speedfreak48t5p
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Let's be clear TC, RoboCop is NOT Jesus. Your username is a lie.

And lol Kotaku.

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#9 RoboCopISJesus
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Let's be clear TC, RoboCop is NOT Jesus. Your username is a lie.

And lol Kotaku.

Yes he is.

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#10 Kinthalis
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Oh, Kotaku, stay casual.

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#11 locopatho
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Let's be clear TC, RoboCop is NOT Jesus. Your username is a lie.

He died for our sins, was resurrected to save us, and literally walked on water :)

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#12  Edited By BldgIrsh
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It obviously need more female lead roles with them having flat chests.

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#13  Edited By Dasein808
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"Needs moar corridor shooting, QTEs, and cutscenes."

Complaints about complexity and depth are the whinings of a peasant.

This is a revitalization of the old school CRPGs of the 80s, and its long overdue. I'm generally not a big fan of the modern, diluted, "action RPGs."

I'm trying to maintain realistic expectations because the original was my second favorite Apple IIc game behind The Magic Candle.

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#14 edwardecl
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I does look like it needs simplifying a little bit though, I like games like this but you could spent 2 hours creating a squad and start the game to find out you are not effective enough to progress.

Which is exactly what happened to me in Divinity, I created a squad with a ranger and a warrior/healing to find out that if you don't have a character with fire magic you pretty much screwed on the first level, and not only that a one handed warrior sucks with the starter gear and if your main 2 character die it's game over even if the others live.

None of that was explained before you began.

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#15  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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@locopatho said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Let's be clear TC, RoboCop is NOT Jesus. Your username is a lie.

He died for our sins, was resurrected to save us, and literally walked on water :)

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#16 Ballroompirate
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#lolkotaku

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#17  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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@RoboCopISJesus said:

@locopatho said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Let's be clear TC, RoboCop is NOT Jesus. Your username is a lie.

He died for our sins, was resurrected to save us, and literally walked on water :)

Too bad he couldn't save us from bad trolls. :(

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#18 Comduter
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That sucks. I can also see see that I'll actually have to read in order to play this game too. At least it'll still have lots of violent bloody action. I'm just worried that won't have the patience to play a game like this.

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#19  Edited By bunchanumbers
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Kotaku? They pretty much lost all legitimacy in my eyes. I won't even look at the site and it shames me that GS takes headlines from them for their news.

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#20 silversix_  Online
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That nerd plays nothing else but yearly Madden and CoD i bet

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#21 clyde46
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Why are you reading that trash?

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#22 PS4hasNOgames
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ugh i just can't play these top view games anymore, I'm sorry but i just can't.

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#23 BldgIrsh
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@ps4hasnogames said:

ugh i just can't play these top view games anymore, I'm sorry but i just can't.

Weren't you just whining on about how games have gottten too boring? Perhaps your narrow-minded view on certain genres is leading you astray?

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#24 wis3boi
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sounds like they have the attention span of a gnat

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#25  Edited By naz99
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@bldgirsh said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

ugh i just can't play these top view games anymore, I'm sorry but i just can't.

Weren't you just whining on about how games have gottten too boring? Perhaps your narrow-minded view on certain genres is leading you astray?

Nailed it.

Discounting multiple genres and types of games just because of the view point is stupidity of the highest order

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#26 hiphops_savior
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There is a difference between having a game that is easy to learn but hard to master and a game that is either ridiculously shallow or convoluted.

The article is a poorly written piece of crap that is a glorified blog post. Kotaku is the TMZ of gaming.

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#27 SambaLele
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Sounds like great news to me actually.

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#28 Wasdie  Moderator
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Kotaku is loaded with shit journalists who create clickbait articles for cheap hits. Only reason they are popular anymore is because of all of the controversy they try to stir up by telling us entitled white male gamers how privileged we are and how we need to check our privileges or making outlandish statements about games in order to bait people into giving their website hits.

Shit journalism that doesn't deserve anybody's attention.

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#29 MlauTheDaft
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Uhm... At least it made me watch the video and Wasteland 2 is shaping up nicely! Hopefully it'll be as good as Divinity: OS, which I suppose is also too hard for Kotaku employees.

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#30 longtonguecat
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@Wasdie: It saddens me how other parts of my family and even friends who are newer to gaming but starting to really get into it follow it religiously. I hope they get to know the industry well enough to realise how awful of a gaming news service it is. :(

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Get a trainer-->God Mode-->Max Stats-->Dominate-->Finish game in one setting.

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#32 MlauTheDaft
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@longtonguecat said:

@Wasdie: It saddens me how other parts of my family and even friends who are newer to gaming but starting to really get into it follow it religiously. I hope they get to know the industry well enough to realise how awful of a gaming news service it is. :(

At least tell them to get Adblock Plus and possibly NoScript if they can handle that ;)

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#33  Edited By Boddicker
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When I think of Kotaku:

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#34  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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When has kotaku not said something stupid.

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#35 The_Last_Ride
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maybe the main reason they aren't considered journalists

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#36 IgGy621985
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We'll see. I didn't like the first Wasteland 2 gameplay videos at all, but Kotaku's article title is nothing else but a bait. And they succeeded at it.

The video looks great. I mean, what do they expect? It's a game tailored for hardcore audience.

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#37  Edited By RoboCopISJesus
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@ps4hasnogames said:

ugh i just can't play these top view games anymore, I'm sorry but i just can't.

You and @m3dude1 should just stick to your sports and movie games at 20fps on low.

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#38  Edited By santoron
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Yup, loltaku sucks. What's sad is we get a dozen threads here a week linking to it.

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#39  Edited By blueinheaven
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@edwardecl said:

I does look like it needs simplifying a little bit though, I like games like this but you could spent 2 hours creating a squad and start the game to find out you are not effective enough to progress.

Which is exactly what happened to me in Divinity, I created a squad with a ranger and a warrior/healing to find out that if you don't have a character with fire magic you pretty much screwed on the first level, and not only that a one handed warrior sucks with the starter gear and if your main 2 character die it's game over even if the others live.

None of that was explained before you began.

Are you talking about Divinity Original Sin? I really like it but it kind of annoys me that the environment dictates how effective your party is (or not). That is definitely a situation where they over-complicated thing unnecessarily presumably to stand out from the RPG crowd. Great game but yeah that's kind of stupid. I hope Wasteland 2 isn't like the quotes above suggest and you will get destroyed if you don't create the party the developer has already decided is the one that works best in the game that would be f***ing moronic.

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#40 DocSanchez
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Don't give that trash site your time of day. They probably objected to a woman in it having breasts or something.

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#41 bussinrounds
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But but....how am i gonna have the time to learn a game like this when I have 2 kids and I'm a doormat to my pig ugly wife who won't let me have any time to myself ?

Waaaaaaaaahh !

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#42 blueinheaven
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@bussinrounds: Casuals are totally destroying gaming it's true but if that quote above is true and the devs have already decided on the perfect party and anything else makes the game difficult I'm out. I find it hard to believe though, would they really be that stupid?

Casuals though, damn them to hell they ruined ALL MMORPG's for me they are now single player games with chat rooms and you can play for an hour and get to level 100 or if the nasty monster bothers you no problem buy killer gear in the shop. ffs.....

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#43  Edited By Sword-Demon
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Kotaku isn't worth visiting, even if it's to make fun of another one of their crap articles.

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#44 bussinrounds
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@blueinheaven said:

@bussinrounds: Casuals are totally destroying gaming it's true but if that quote above is true and the devs have already decided on the perfect party and anything else makes the game difficult I'm out. I find it hard to believe though, would they really be that stupid?

Casuals though, damn them to hell they ruined ALL MMORPG's for me they are now single player games with chat rooms and you can play for an hour and get to level 100 or if the nasty monster bothers you no problem buy killer gear in the shop. ffs.....

It won't be like that at all. (where you need this 'perfect' party to beat it)

People these days die a few times and cry, because with all the mindless and piss easy games they play now, they've been conditioned to think that something is wrong with the game if they actually have to reload. LOL

In fact, making an 'totally optimal party' will prob make the game too easy, like usual.

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#45 UnbiasedPoster
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Stop giving these sites hit. Polygon and Kotaku are both trash, we already know this.

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#46 blueinheaven
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@bussinrounds said:

@blueinheaven said:

@bussinrounds: Casuals are totally destroying gaming it's true but if that quote above is true and the devs have already decided on the perfect party and anything else makes the game difficult I'm out. I find it hard to believe though, would they really be that stupid?

Casuals though, damn them to hell they ruined ALL MMORPG's for me they are now single player games with chat rooms and you can play for an hour and get to level 100 or if the nasty monster bothers you no problem buy killer gear in the shop. ffs.....

It won't be like that at all. (where you need this 'perfect' party to beat it)

People these days die a few times and cry, because with all the mindless and piss easy games they play now, they've been conditioned to think that something is wrong with the game if they actually have to reload. LOL

In fact, making an 'totally optimal party' will prob make the game too easy, like usual.

Yeah I'm hoping it will be that way and I'm confident it will but that quote sounded terrible I'm just going to go ahead and say they got it wrong and misquoted. I really hate how easy games are now and I am almost becoming conditioned to it I need to play Planescape Torment on hard again and when I mess up and go looking for the 'item shop' damn some tears are going to flow.

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#47 Lulu_Lulu
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I'm with Kotaku on this....this is actually worse than Complex... Its convoluted.

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#48 wis3boi
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

I'm with Kotaku on this....this is actually worse than Complex... Its convoluted.

needs more quicktime events and 'press A to continue' I spose

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#49 Jankarcop
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Who would play this trash. PSDC

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#50 s_h_a_d_o
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@mems_1224 said:

@locopatho said:

Excellent. When did Kotaku get so shit? I mean it was never REALLY good but they seem to purposely be awful these days, when did that happen?

They've always been pretty awful. I usually only go there because they're pretty quick about stealing news from other sites and neogaf. lol

And then you come here... :/