KZ2, console graphics king...Really?

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#1 MortalDecay
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Why?

I was able to play it recently for a longer period of time than I did before, and I don't see how this game is being praised in the grpahics department. If anything, Uncharted looks better.

The textures are bland, flat, and blurry. Perfect Dark Zero has better texture detail.

COD5 looks better, imo. There's the same ammount of action on screen, if not more, and COD5 is more detailed.

Gears 2 definately has more detail.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

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Textures textures textures blablabla.

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#4 MortalDecay
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Textures textures textures blablabla.

Filthybastrd
So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...
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Why?

I was able to play it recently for a longer period of time than I did before, and I don't see how this game is being praised in the grpahics department. If anything, Uncharted looks better.

The textures are bland, flat, and blurry. Perfect Dark Zero has better texture detail.

COD5 looks better, imo. There's the same ammount of action on screen, if not more, and COD5 is more detailed.

Gears 2 definately has more detail.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

MortalDecay
I think graphics are subjective like art. We all like different styles and techniques. The true Graphics king is in our hearts!
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#6 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Textures textures textures blablabla.

MortalDecay

So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...

oh and in no way cod5 has more things going on-screen than KZ2. That alone shows that you haven't played KZ2 :lol:

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#7 McManus107
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Textures textures textures blablabla.

Filthybastrd
^^^pretty much what I'm thinking
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#8 MachoBuzzzy
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RE5 looks better IMO
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#9 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Textures textures textures blablabla.

MortalDecay

So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...

No but unlike you I think gfx are made up of more than textures. Not that they're bad in KZ2.

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#10 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Textures textures textures blablabla.

So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...

oh and in no way cod5 has more things going on-screen than KZ2. That alone shows that you haven't played KZ2 :lol:

Have you even played COD5?
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#11 -Traveller-
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IMO it is, simple as that for me.
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#12 MortalDecay
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RE5 looks better IMOMachoBuzzzy
I agree.
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#13 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...MortalDecay

oh and in no way cod5 has more things going on-screen than KZ2. That alone shows that you haven't played KZ2 :lol:

Have you even played COD5?

if you mean by action, grenades being thrown at you and blowing up every 2 seconds, i see where you're coming from
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Textures textures textures blablabla.

So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...

No but unlike you I think gfx are made up of more than textures. Not that they're bad in KZ2.

Detail brings everything together. KZ2 looks flat to me.
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Opinion. There will never be a graphics king because no one will ever agree on what looks best.
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...MortalDecay

oh and in no way cod5 has more things going on-screen than KZ2. That alone shows that you haven't played KZ2 :lol:

Have you even played COD5?

i own both. i have cod5 for PC running on max settings. it has no where near the ammount of physics and things going on as killzone 2. nice try though.
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#17 T-Aldous
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I don't understand either, I am at the end of the game trying to beat Radec and through the whole game I have not figured out what is so great looking about it. I do love the hit detection on the enemies though. And the character shadows look like udder crap.

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#18 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...MortalDecay

oh and in no way cod5 has more things going on-screen than KZ2. That alone shows that you haven't played KZ2 :lol:

Have you even played COD5?

i own cod4 and cod 5 and i've played every major FPS in the history of gaming.

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i agree with the textures some of them look ps2 quality but with all the effects scale and the amount going on plus the size of the areas i think its best looking game on a console..
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#20 -Reggaeton-
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Its not graphics king because its not on the 360.

Personally its best looking and most immersive game that ive played on any console so far.

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#21 jerkface96
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Opinion. There will never be a graphics king because no one will ever agree on what looks best. waynehead895
/thread lol
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

oh and in no way cod5 has more things going on-screen than KZ2. That alone shows that you haven't played KZ2 :lol:

Trinners

Have you even played COD5?

i own cod4 and cod 5 and i've played every major FPS in the history of gaming.

You claimed that the Killzone series is the best FPS series ever. You probably haven't played all of the major ones.
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#23 MortalDecay
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i agree with the textures some of them look ps2 quality but with all the effects scale and the amount going on plus the size of the areas i think its best looking game on a console..daveg1
So, it would be better to say that KZ2 is the physics king, instead of graphics king?
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#24 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] Have you even played COD5?pyromaniac223

i own cod4 and cod 5 and i've played every major FPS in the history of gaming.

You claimed that the Killzone series is the best FPS series ever. You probably haven't played all of the major ones.

i'm pretty sure when i said that it was sarcasm because the thread had no lulz.

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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...MortalDecay

No but unlike you I think gfx are made up of more than textures. Not that they're bad in KZ2.

Detail brings everything together. KZ2 looks flat to me.

You should try out pc gaming then. No console game will satisfy you (Yes, Gears 2 etc but...... consider that you just don't like the fact that KZ2 looks incredible).

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#26 lancer_87
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Yes REALLY and this is why its the Console GRAPHICS KING.

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#27 kozzy1234
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I personally think killzone2 is a very good looking game. Not close to Crysis level of graphcis, but for a conhsole they are top notch.

I think the console graphics war =

1. Killzone2

2. Kameo

3. Uncharted

4. Gears2

5. Resident Evil5/MGS4

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#28 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

No but unlike you I think gfx are made up of more than textures. Not that they're bad in KZ2.

Detail brings everything together. KZ2 looks flat to me.

You should try out pc gaming then. No console game will satisfy you (Yes, Gears 2 etc but...... consider that you just don't like the fact that KZ2 looks incredible).

Who said I don't play games on my PC? This is a thread dealing with consoles.
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]i agree with the textures some of them look ps2 quality but with all the effects scale and the amount going on plus the size of the areas i think its best looking game on a console..MortalDecay
So, it would be better to say that KZ2 is the physics king, instead of graphics king?

somewhat yes some of the effects are used to hide graphic flaws but some of it does look really good i thought..
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#30 psychobrew
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Opinion. There will never be a graphics king because no one will ever agree on what looks best. waynehead895
Exactly. If you like the hand drawn arty look, KZ2 has great graphics (though art is always subjective). I would not call KZ2 graphics the most realistic, however, and some people prefer realistic graphics.
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#31 zarshack
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now all we need is obamanian to come in here and start telling us fable 2 and Banjo:Nuts and bolts, look better then KZ2. People and their opinions honestly...

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#32 Trinners
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KZ2 also has the best lighting to ever grace a console.

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#33 W1NGMAN-
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The wayI see things..

KZ2 >>> MGS4 > GeoW2 > Uncharted

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#34 Rhubarb9
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Why?

I was able to play it recently for a longer period of time than I did before, and I don't see how this game is being praised in the grpahics department. If anything, Uncharted looks better.

The textures are bland, flat, and blurry. Perfect Dark Zero has better texture detail.

COD5 looks better, imo. There's the same ammount of action on screen, if not more, and COD5 is more detailed.

Gears 2 definately has more detail.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

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#35 Trinners
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Oh and this as well:

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now all we need is obamanian to come in here and start telling us fable 2 and Banjo:Nuts and bolts, look better then KZ2. People and their opinions honestly...

zarshack

I desagree with the Fable2 part but Banjo N&B is easly one of the best looking games this gen :P

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#37 jerkface96
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i just dont like how people always bring this thread up, I also dont like how people just cant give credit to KZ2, it has great graphics, it doesnt have to be Graphics king but people still down play it liek its nothing, and then the PC guys come in here and say PC hass the best Graphics, the funny thing is WE ALL KNOW THAT, so when talking about killzone dont mention Graphics King, and PC gaming, those have all been brought up numereous amounts of time , and it leads to no where

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now all we need is obamanian to come in here and start telling us fable 2 and Banjo:Nuts and bolts, look better then KZ2. People and their opinions honestly...

zarshack
We wouldn't need threads like this if cows didn't post KZ = GRAPHIX KING!!!!!, or WHEN WILL 3SIXTY GET GRAPHIX LIKE KZ@!!!! threads every 5 seconds. KZ2 does look very good. I am not denying that. I guess it's a fanboy's nature to automatically assume that someone is trashing a game just because I don't share their opinion on a game, but it's stupid.
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who cares just leave it alone or graphics threads will once again rule sw.
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#40 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

Oh and this as well:

Are you seriously using a SW poll as proof? Hahahahaha... How does that prove anything, other than the fact that there's a lot of cows on SW, which is something we've known for a long time now.
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who cares just leave it alone or graphics threads will once again rule sw.Tekkenloving

ugh those threads were anoying.

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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

now all we need is obamanian to come in here and start telling us fable 2 and Banjo:Nuts and bolts, look better then KZ2. People and their opinions honestly...

MortalDecay

We wouldn't need threads like this if cows didn't post KZ = GRAPHIX KING!!!!!, or WHEN WILL 3SIXTY GET GRAPHIX LIKE KZ@!!!! threads every 5 seconds. KZ2 does look very good. I am not denying that. I guess it's a fanboy's nature to automatically assume that someone is trashing a game just because I don't share their opinion on a game, but it's stupid.

Killzone 2 is graphics king. Its been agreed. No matter how much you you try to bash it. You can have your opinion but most of us dont agree.

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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

now all we need is obamanian to come in here and start telling us fable 2 and Banjo:Nuts and bolts, look better then KZ2. People and their opinions honestly...

MortalDecay

We wouldn't need threads like this if cows didn't post KZ = GRAPHIX KING!!!!!, or WHEN WILL 3SIXTY GET GRAPHIX LIKE KZ@!!!! threads every 5 seconds. KZ2 does look very good. I am not denying that. I guess it's a fanboy's nature to automatically assume that someone is trashing a game just because I don't share their opinion on a game, but it's stupid.

i havent seen any of those fanboy threads about killzone 2 today yet you decided to bring up a thread about it anyway, And you are a fanboy of course you brought this up to try and trash on the game dont try to lie about it ROFL. If you werent trying to trash it you wouldnt even bother posting a thread in system wars.

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#44 urdead18
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Really, CoD5 > KZ2 graphically, that's a joke.

I've got both, well had both but I traded in CoD5 and Killzone 2 obliterates CoD5 in every way imaginable. Character models, gun models, textures, action, animations, lighting.

Killzone 2 is easily the graphics king for consoles, get over it already, it's been said in review after review, including Gamespot's.

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#45 DBhova23
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Why?

I was able to play it recently for a longer period of time than I did before, and I don't see how this game is being praised in the grpahics department. If anything, Uncharted looks better.

The textures are bland, flat, and blurry. Perfect Dark Zero has better texture detail.

COD5 looks better, imo. There's the same ammount of action on screen, if not more, and COD5 is more detailed.

Gears 2 definately has more detail.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

MortalDecay
Well is this a first... COD 5 looks better than KZ2.... ahhh no. you can argue gameplay but graphically KZ2 by a mile. Here's how i see the top five with KZ2 on top. KZ2 MGS4 Gears2 Resident Evil 5 Uncharted 1
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You said that PDZ has better texture detail and that World at War looked better over all. I'm not giving you a good answer.
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

Oh and this as well:

MortalDecay

Are you seriously using a SW poll as proof? Hahahahaha... How does that prove anything, other than the fact that there's a lot of cows on SW, which is something we've known for a long time now.



why you ignore my link it contains all answers
you're not doing this to anger us right?

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#48 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Why?

I was able to play it recently for a longer period of time than I did before, and I don't see how this game is being praised in the grpahics department. If anything, Uncharted looks better.

The textures are bland, flat, and blurry. Perfect Dark Zero has better texture detail.

COD5 looks better, imo. There's the same ammount of action on screen, if not more, and COD5 is more detailed.

Gears 2 definately has more detail.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Rhubarb9



http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26814874&page=1


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you can go back to playing lips now :)

Again with using SW as proof. Is that all you cows have? And I see what you did there....But I fail to see how a game why wife plays helps your case, other than to change the subject when you have nothing else to say.

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It looks good and better than uncharted and MGS4,but is not what fanboys want people to believe about the graphics...is smoke and mirrors and personally i find RE5 a better looking game...
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#50 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="zarshack"]

now all we need is obamanian to come in here and start telling us fable 2 and Banjo:Nuts and bolts, look better then KZ2. People and their opinions honestly...

We wouldn't need threads like this if cows didn't post KZ = GRAPHIX KING!!!!!, or WHEN WILL 3SIXTY GET GRAPHIX LIKE KZ@!!!! threads every 5 seconds. KZ2 does look very good. I am not denying that. I guess it's a fanboy's nature to automatically assume that someone is trashing a game just because I don't share their opinion on a game, but it's stupid.

i havent seen any of those fanboy threads about killzone 2 today yet you decided to bring up a thread about it anyway, And you are a fanboy of course you brought this up to try and trash on the game dont try to lie about it ROFL. If you werent trying to trash it you wouldnt even bother posting a thread in system wars.

Seeing as how you can't see pas your own nose... I am not trashing KZ2. I was just wonder what's so special about KZ2's graphics. If you want to believe otherwise, fine by me.