KZ2, console graphics king...Really?

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#251 gearspwnflopzon
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I already proved gears of war character models>>>>>killzone2s or mgs4 or's uncharted or even uncharted 2's. If you want to keep denying that it's all good.
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#252 gearspwnflopzon
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killzone2 has better lighting though, so they both win and lose in certain categorys.
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#253 NYrockinlegend
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No, though it does deserve recognition for certain categories, like lighting, depth, and shading. Texture detail is kinda blurry, though.
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#254 gearspwnflopzon
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its kinda wrong to say killzone2's lighting is better, because unreal engine 3 actually better shadowing system. but they used more dynamic lights in killzone2 because they were going for more darker game.
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#255 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

What's with this Gears 2 having great graphics? Gears 2 lost to MGS4 in the VGA and MGS4 won the technical graphics award on gamespot link here. Which gears 2 wasn't even nominated for :lol:. And KZ2 is more technically impressive than MGS4.

Ahh fanboys and their damage control :lol:

pyromaniac223

To be fair, though, the Technical Graphics Award here was a sham. MGS4 beat Crysis Warhead, which basically makes MGS4 look like a PS2 game.

crysis warhead, is just crysis thats why if Crysis had just came out then it would of beat MGS4, but since its not really a new game.

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#256 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]its kinda wrong to say killzone2's lighting is better, because unreal engine 3 actually better shadowing system. but they used more dynamic lights in killzone2 because they were going for more darker game.

Hmm. What are your thoughts on Doom 3?
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#257 gearspwnflopzon
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]its kinda wrong to say killzone2's lighting is better, because unreal engine 3 actually better shadowing system. but they used more dynamic lights in killzone2 because they were going for more darker game.

Hmm. What are your thoughts on Doom 3?

doom3 sucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m7T5ay_8DI Unreal Engine 3 Early Demo 2004, check out lighting at 1:03 and later, see the unreal engine 3 can do kick ass lighting, but as to why gears didnt use that type of dynamic lighting i dont know lol.
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#258 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]its kinda wrong to say killzone2's lighting is better, because unreal engine 3 actually better shadowing system. but they used more dynamic lights in killzone2 because they were going for more darker game.

Hmm. What are your thoughts on Doom 3?

doom3 sucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m7T5ay_8DI Unreal Engine 3 Early Demo 2004, check out lighting at 1:03 and later, see the unreal engine 3 can do kick ass lighting, but as to why gears didnt use that type of dynamic lighting i dont know lol.

This might just be Woobadooba trying to disguise himself.
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#259 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

Why?

I was able to play it recently for a longer period of time than I did before, and I don't see how this game is being praised in the grpahics department. If anything, Uncharted looks better.

The textures are bland, flat, and blurry. Perfect Dark Zero has better texture detail.

COD5 looks better, imo. There's the same ammount of action on screen, if not more, and COD5 is more detailed.

Gears 2 definately has more detail.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

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It was considered graphics king by many many reviewers. IMO it looks and plays more realistic than any game on a console to date. About your Gears 2 comment if millions of jagged edges and very bad detail on objects up close to you is better detail then so be it.

Don'tsay thatman, Gears has better detailing, but killzone has better lighting but honestly who cares. Both games are great and better then their prequels but I think Gears of War 2 is better. 'Millions of jagged edges and bad detail' that is really not true, that only happens when the game is still loading.

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#260 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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BTW DOOM 3 does not suck

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#261 gearspwnflopzon
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gears of war 3 all lights fully dynamic FTW
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#262 swimdeadfish
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wtf are you guys talking about killzone 2 has great textures. Better than cod5.
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#263 gearspwnflopzon
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http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/video/6161200/gears-of-war-video-review?hd=1 Look at 7 minutes and 32 seconds in gamespots gears of war 1# xbox360 review it shows the exact realtime cutscene spot this picture below was taken from. and jeff gerstmann even says its all realtime, and the models do look same as cutscene. here's screenshot from the cutscene http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 gears of war=console character model king, some models in gears might looks bad, but marcus has more detail than any other console game.
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#265 Mr_Apple_Soup
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i really cant believe this thread is still going

from a technical stand-point, killzone 2 is the best looking console game currently available

im loving this damage control though. people were even saying PDZ had better textures then it :lol:

shiny textures ftw!

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#266 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/video/6161200/gears-of-war-video-review?hd=1 Look at 7 minutes and 32 seconds in gamespots gears of war 1# xbox360 review it shows the exact realtime cutscene spot this picture below was taken from. and jeff gerstmann even says its all realtime, and the models do look same as cutscene. here's screenshot from the cutscene http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 gears of war=console character model king, some models in gears might looks bad, but marcus has more detail than any other console game.

i think uncharted's are better.
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#267 gearspwnflopzon
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/video/6161200/gears-of-war-video-review?hd=1 Look at 7 minutes and 32 seconds in gamespots gears of war 1# xbox360 review it shows the exact realtime cutscene spot this picture below was taken from. and jeff gerstmann even says its all realtime, and the models do look same as cutscene. here's screenshot from the cutscene http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 gears of war=console character model king, some models in gears might looks bad, but marcus has more detail than any other console game.

i think uncharted's are better.

that's cool, explain how though?
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#268 bayareahusla
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The true Graphics king is in our hearts!

does anyone think that was really gay to say but me?
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#269 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"][QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/video/6161200/gears-of-war-video-review?hd=1 Look at 7 minutes and 32 seconds in gamespots gears of war 1# xbox360 review it shows the exact realtime cutscene spot this picture below was taken from. and jeff gerstmann even says its all realtime, and the models do look same as cutscene. here's screenshot from the cutscene http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 gears of war=console character model king, some models in gears might looks bad, but marcus has more detail than any other console game.

i think uncharted's are better.

that's cool, explain how though?

He has an opinion which states that Uncharted's character models are more pleasing to the eye that Gears's.
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#270 2beers_in_hand
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Sigh I wonder how many more post till KZ2 regains the title it never lost as the graphics king. Facts are fact when most reviewers state that as of right know KZ2 is the graphics champ. Hell didn't MS say in a round about way that KZ2 was the graphics champ?

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#271 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"][QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/video/6161200/gears-of-war-video-review?hd=1 Look at 7 minutes and 32 seconds in gamespots gears of war 1# xbox360 review it shows the exact realtime cutscene spot this picture below was taken from. and jeff gerstmann even says its all realtime, and the models do look same as cutscene. here's screenshot from the cutscene http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 gears of war=console character model king, some models in gears might looks bad, but marcus has more detail than any other console game.

i think uncharted's are better.

that's cool, explain how though?

they look better imo, graphically.
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#272 Ragashahs
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yes it is stop denying it and hideing behind the opinion argument cause you know that just a cop out

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#273 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

Textures textures textures blablabla.

MortalDecay
So, you'd be happy if games still looked like Star Fox on the SNES...

That game was fun, don't bash it.
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#274 gearspwnflopzon
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"][QUOTE="rorskarch"] i think uncharted's are better.

that's cool, explain how though?

they look better imo, graphically.

yea, but is there a reason for thinking this when clearly gears skin texture has more detail is it a ps3 bias? if ps3 models actually were better id admit it.
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#275 obamanian
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Sigh I wonder how many more post till KZ2 regains the title it never lost as the graphics king. Facts are fact when most reviewers state that as of right know KZ2 is the graphics champ. Hell didn't MS say in a round about way that KZ2 was the graphics champ?

2beers_in_hand

It has less detail, worst textures, smaller levels than Gears 2, it is not even close to what you suggest, in fact is far behind many games visually, like Gears 2, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Kameo etc

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#276 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="2beers_in_hand"]

Sigh I wonder how many more post till KZ2 regains the title it never lost as the graphics king. Facts are fact when most reviewers state that as of right know KZ2 is the graphics champ. Hell didn't MS say in a round about way that KZ2 was the graphics champ?

It has less detail, worst textures, smaller levels than Gears 2, it is not even close to what you suggest, in fact is far behind many games visually, like Gears 2, Fable 2, Banjo 3, Kameo etc

WAIT SOMEBODY JUST FOUND AN EXTRA LEAF IN FABLE 2!!!!! Quick you better go check if its true.
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#277 beekayjay
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The two main opponents to declaring KZ2 the best looking console game right now are: Obamanian, who hates everything that isn't an RPG. Gearspwnflopzon, who is also currently making the argument in another thread that Gears 2 has better graphics than Crysis. Zero credibility here.
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#278 Disturbed123
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PDO better textures then KZ2? :lol: OMG

Every game has places that has poor textures, its inevitable. No one is gonna go upto the wall in a game and observe every inch of detail. Its the overall look of the game that makes KZ2 amazing looking. Ok in some places textures may look off, PDO had jaggies n crap loads of crap textures, GEOW2 lacked textures in some areas, but the over all look (character detail, level design, amount of screen) makes you over look all "teh textures :cry: ".

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#279 JasonDarksavior
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I think the graphics in KZ2 are one of the best I've seen. But I could have low standards.

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#280 Floppy_Jim
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From a technical standpoint it is, no argument. Some people just don't like the artstyle though.
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#281 JarrottB
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Technically it beats out everything on the console market, the only contenders against it are MGS4, GeoW2, RE5 and Uncharted. Nothing else, especially Fable 2 :lol:, comes even close. Artistically, however...
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#282 killzowned24
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gears of war 3 all lights fully dynamic FTW gearspwnflopzon
LOL, keep dreaming because Epic was just hyping better static lighting as a new feature.
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The two main opponents to declaring KZ2 the best looking console game right now are: Obamanian, who hates everything that isn't an RPG. Gearspwnflopzon, who is also currently making the argument in another thread that Gears 2 has better graphics than Crysis. Zero credibility here.beekayjay

Gears 2 is great graphics butbetter graphics thenCrysis? Whoah Gearspwnflopzon, if you put Crysis on Max setting or even Medium on any console they would explode. Luckily Cryengine 3 is downgrading a bit for multi-plat

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#284 gypsygib
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It has nicer textures than Gears 2 up close. If you can't see KZ2 has better graphics than all the games you mentioned then you have your fanboy glasses on blinding you from the truth!
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#285 yonnex
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many reviewers including gamespot have said Killzone 2 graphics are amazing i believe IGN said the best on console to date as well as alot of member of the forums. Show me the same for another game on console and i will agree with you. Until then Killzone 2 is graphics king on console.

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#286 pyromaniac223
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It is a very pretty game, and its definitely console graphics king right now. I think it will be surpassed soon, though.
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#287 raynimrod
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I agree that KZ2 has the nicest visuals just clear of MGS4, Uncharted and GeOW (in the console department).

However as many people have said, it comes down to opinion.

Also, CoD5 isn't even out yet, so can people please refer to the game correctly... CoD:WaW

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[QUOTE="JarrottB"]Technically it beats out everything on the console market, the only contenders against it are MGS4, GeoW2, RE5 and Uncharted. Nothing else, especially Fable 2 :lol:, comes even close. Artistically, however...

nah gears of war 2 has better models higher polygon
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#289 LOLDFRTGERGDMIK
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[QUOTE="gearspwnflopzon"]gears of war 3 all lights fully dynamic FTW killzowned24
LOL, keep dreaming because Epic was just hyping better static lighting as a new feature.

LOL no games on the market use global illumination.
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[QUOTE="JarrottB"]Technically it beats out everything on the console market, the only contenders against it are MGS4, GeoW2, RE5 and Uncharted. Nothing else, especially Fable 2 :lol:, comes even close. Artistically, however...LOLDFRTGERGDMIK
nah gears of war 2 has better models higher polygon

Link would be nice.

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#291 LOLDFRTGERGDMIK
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unreal engine 3 can do many different types of lighting. dev's havent made a game using all dynamic lights yet though.
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[QUOTE="LOLDFRTGERGDMIK"][QUOTE="JarrottB"]Technically it beats out everything on the console market, the only contenders against it are MGS4, GeoW2, RE5 and Uncharted. Nothing else, especially Fable 2 :lol:, comes even close. Artistically, however...-Traveller-

nah gears of war 2 has better models higher polygon

Link would be nice.

eye's tell the truth, the teeth on killzone2 models look like 2d paper cut out sprites lol
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#293 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="LOLDFRTGERGDMIK"] nah gears of war 2 has better models higher polygonLOLDFRTGERGDMIK

Link would be nice.

eye's tell the truth, the teeth on killzone2 models look like 2d paper cut out sprites lol

So no link then? Ok well I don't believe you.

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#294 WhenPicklezFly
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you show proof of a 360 with a gamertag but not a portable gamer id (psn).... why do you do that ?
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#295 LOLDFRTGERGDMIK
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http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/4/0/6/3/4/1/VirtualDub_2009_02_06_20_52_11_68.bmp.jpg killzone2 most detail character model. vs gears of war http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 LOL gears makes killzone2 look last gen
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#296 Sherjas24
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I just purchased Killzone 2 Yesterday and give the Graphics along with the gameplay an A+ best shooter I have played this year.
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#297 Mr_Apple_Soup
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eye's tell the truth, the teeth on killzone2 models look like 2d paper cut out sprites lolLOLDFRTGERGDMIK

THE TEETH?

THE....TEETH?

well guys, there you have it, GeoW2 has better teeth then KZ2, not better textures, better lighting, better graphics...better teeth

this thread is getting a bit...stupid now...the general agreement is that KZ2 has better graphics...cant we just move on, or do we really need a 300+ post thread on this EVERY OTHER DAY?...

...the teeth :x

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#298 JarrottB
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[QUOTE="LOLDFRTGERGDMIK"][QUOTE="JarrottB"]Technically it beats out everything on the console market, the only contenders against it are MGS4, GeoW2, RE5 and Uncharted. Nothing else, especially Fable 2 :lol:, comes even close. Artistically, however...

nah gears of war 2 has better models higher polygon

Killzone 2 overall looks better than GeoW2. One thing, that may not even be true, isn't the deciding factor of what looks best.
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#299 -Traveller-
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http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/4/0/6/3/4/1/VirtualDub_2009_02_06_20_52_11_68.bmp.jpg killzone2 most detail character model. vs gears of war http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 LOL gears makes killzone2 look last genLOLDFRTGERGDMIK

Have you played Killzone 2? I've played KZ2, Gears and Gears 2. Killzone 2 looks better IMO. Linking two images doesn't really prove your point. When there is an in-depth analysis from a reliable source, then I will concede the point. When you just try and post two pictures to make a point, I will respectfully do this:

:lol:

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#300 beekayjay
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http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/4/0/6/3/4/1/VirtualDub_2009_02_06_20_52_11_68.bmp.jpg killzone2 most detail character model. vs gears of war http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/images/0/47/?full_size=1 LOL gears makes killzone2 look last genLOLDFRTGERGDMIK
Dude, its pretty obvious that you're the same person as Gearsflopzon. Of course you're going to deny it, but its incredibly obvious. Nice try.