Lack of Gay Options "A Shame," Says BioWare Producer

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#101  Edited By GiantAssPanda
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@lostrib said:

I don't get why people are upset about the inclusion of homosexual relationships ...of course I also don't get why people get upset if a game doesn't have homosexual relationships

I'd be fine if Bioware's games didn't have any sexual relationships at all since they're always so damn dumb and awkward anyways.

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#103 Maroxad
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@lostrib said:

...of course I also don't get why people get upset if a game doesn't have homosexual relationships

The reason depends on the person, some reasons are completely understandable, others not so much.

Some feel alienated because homosexuality is not represented in the game. "You didnt represent us, you must hate us!!!"
Others like to self insert into their characters. Unfortunately, self inserting into a definately straight character when you are gay can be difficult depending on how important romances are to you and the game.
Others simply are SJWs and want to push for the underdog.
Others want to roleplay as a character they imagine, if they wanted the option to play as a gay man, and the game doesnt allow them to roleplay the character imagined, immersion may be hurt.
Others simply enjoy having the choice to do what they want in the games without the game telling them no. This is one of the reasons Skyrim is so successful.

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#104  Edited By deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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@scottpsfan14 said:

The way I look at it is, fair enough include gay and lesbian options in games like this and Sims with a choice. No harm done there. But Bioware are all in peoples faces about it. Like agenda pushing. I can imagine it being arkward to play as a gay male protaginist who has a love interest in the game. Especially if there was no choice. We haven't reached the point as a race where all straight males are down with everything homosexual. It's still 'wrong' to some. It factually isn't wrong, animals in the wild instinctively do gay things too. But some people like to act like homosexuality is the default sexual orientation. Which we all know deep down is not the truth.

The same problem exists with females in games. Even games that have female leads will very rarely have the character kiss someone of the opposite sex. Even overly sexualized characters like Lara Croft seem to be completely celibate or asexual.

People just need to stop feeling so insecure about themselves. Seeing a gay couple won't turn you gay, and having a female lead kiss a man won't turn you into a woman.

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#105 Maroxad
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@GiantAssPanda said:

@lostrib said:

I don't get why people are upset about the inclusion of homosexual relationships ...of course I also don't get why people get upset if a game doesn't have homosexual relationships

I'd be fine if Bioware's games didn't have any sexual relationships at all since they're always so damn dumb and awkward anyways.

I agree with this.

While if anything, I would love it for romances to disappear entirely. If you have romances you might as well implement romances of both orientations.

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#107 lostrib
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@GiantAssPanda said:

@lostrib said:

I don't get why people are upset about the inclusion of homosexual relationships ...of course I also don't get why people get upset if a game doesn't have homosexual relationships

I'd be fine if Bioware's games didn't have any sexual relationships at all since they're always so damn dumb and awkward anyways.

yeah, I get the same feeling. It's either "hey let's try to bang" or "I have no further questions"

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#108  Edited By freedomfreak
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How about they make the relationships not a total joke first.

Saints Row 4 nailed Mass Effect's attempt at romance.
"Hey Kinzie. Wanna ****?"

That's about it.

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#109 ominous_titan
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This is just dumb. As long as people keep making an issue about race and sexuality there will always be homophobes and racism. It's 2014 why can't people just be people without a label attached. As long as no ones hurting other people who cares. I don't have anything for or against this in games I also don't think its newsworthy either

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#110 lostrib
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@ominous_titan said:

This is just dumb. As long as people keep making an issue about race and sexuality there will always be homophobes and racism. It's 2014 why can't people just be people without a label attached. As long as no ones hurting other people who cares. I don't have anything for or against this in games I also don't think its newsworthy either

...because it's 2014, people literally label everything. Thanks insta-twitter-face

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#111  Edited By Heil68
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That is just stupid to fret over relationship "status" in a fucking video game. Make your own game if it worries you that much...which those people wont, they'll continue to bitch and moan over nothing.

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#112 dommeus
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@Bigboi500 said:

There's no need to push the gay agenda on mostly straight gamers. Their focus is all wrong.

lol wut

Equality?

...no?

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@Heil68 said:

That is just stupid to fret over relationship "status" in a fucking video game. Make your own game if it worries you that much...which those people wont, they'll continue to bitch and moan over nothing.

If you're playing an RPG that has full customization but then you can't choose your gender or sexual orientation... that is dumb. It's not unreasonable for someone to want to be represented in a game where the whole point is playing as a user created character. Don't know why anyone would be against what he is saying unless they have some unsavory opinions of members of the LGBT community.

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#114 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Discussion has veered too off course here.